There's a lot of movement in the AIO market at the moment with the likes of NZXT, Corsair, Fractal etc all getting in on the action.
What most people don't seem to realise is that all these types of AIO (with a couple of exceptions) are made by Asetek (who have a patent on the design). If it's a "puck" waterblock+pump, 2 hoses and a radiator, chances are it's an Asetek design with some rebranding.
The above review shows this particular cooler outperforming most of the rest of the field (@240mm). Considering the price of most of these units is a long way north of £100, this particular unit, at this price, is rather special (unless one wants/needs RGB rainbows plastered all over everything).
The 360mm Arctic unit can generally be found at prices still cheaper than most of the 240mm from the "big names".
Do also be aware that twice the fans (even ditching 2 would give fairly equal performance) requires quite a bit more space. Generally about another 25mm of height/depth depending on orientation.
All comments (21)
ritchiedrama
25 May 17#1
I prefer Corsair due to their warranty of if it leaks and damages your components, we will replace them if it was our fault. They are known for this and still do it.
powerbrick to ritchiedrama
25 May 17#6
What you will replace it? Very kind.
mercutio98uk
25 May 17#2
Arctic have been in the coolers market longer than Corsair. I'm a big fan of Corsair, don't get me wrong at all. Just pointing out a perfectly good alternative.
Arctic warranty: 2 years. Corsair: 5 years, just so everyone is well informed :smiley:
I'm running a 2nd hand Corsair and an unbranded Asetek Gen 5 myself. No particular bias. I just find the "BEST 240mm EVER!" type stuff being tossed around for the newest gimmick-filled model rather tedious when they're all basically the same thing :smiley:
ritchiedrama
25 May 171#3
Never said it wasn't good!
I said the fact they will cover damaged components if a leak occurs, is good.
mercutio98uk
25 May 17#4
Aye, definitely a good additional step.
Also with fractals new entry it's possible to upgrade your way to a full custom loop reusing parts from their AIO. That, for me, beats any of the other gimmicks on competing designs :smiley:
EndlessWaves
25 May 17#5
Closed loop coolers are poor value to begin with, so if you're paying the extra you may as well go for the brand that opts for all the options when buying from asetek and backs it up with a good warranty.
ritchiedrama
25 May 171#7
good guy
stefw82
25 May 17#8
Heat from me, bought couple month back from amazon fot about 77. Using it on my i7 7700k @ 4.8ghz with temps around 60-65 while gaming and 20-30 on idle- fan speeds no more than 50% and runs pretty quite
thelargeportion1
25 May 17#9
Screaming hot deal. Heat added.
willyzippy89
26 May 17#10
Oos
mercutio98uk to willyzippy89
26 May 171#15
Yup, sadly there looks to have only been a couple left there. The Amazon price of around £5 more is still a VERY reasonable price for a good AIO.
garybb
26 May 17#11
Corsair would never admit it was there fault there support is appalling. :smiley:
ritchiedrama
26 May 17#12
Been great for me and others.
Undergrid
26 May 17#13
Would this be a better bet than my current Seidon 240v on an i7 7700k? I'm not entirely happy with the way temps jump when the load rises...
mercutio98uk to Undergrid
26 May 17#14
A jump in load temperatures is.... pretty expected. Compare it to the load on the coolers in reviews. Be aware in many reviews they talk about the delta temperature which is basically showing how far above ambient temperatures it was/is.
If it's in the realms of: 24c ambient, 30c idle, 50c load - that's quite normal/expected. VERY good thermal paste might get you a couple of degrees back (at most unless you're using mayonnaise or something :stuck_out_tongue: ). Improving your general airflow through your case will help too.
HWmonitor by CPUID gives a bunch of useful info (you sound to already have sources but... comparisons might help) regarding temperatures/voltages/etc.
mercutio98uk
26 May 17#16
A minor point to be aware of...
Those with Ryzen based systems, these aren't yet AM4 compatible. It only requires a simple, cheap mounting kit though. Google for "Asetek Liquid Cooler AMD AM4 Retention Ring Kit". Should cost you less than a fiver.
pankomputerek to mercutio98uk
26 May 17#20
They offer free kit, it's shipped next day to you from Germany.
Undergrid
26 May 17#17
It's not so much the jump in temps itself, but how it jumps. With an AIO I'd expect an initial increase (smaller than you'd get in an air cooler) and then an increase over time until you reach a stability point somewhere between 30 and 60 mins after starting. That's what I've seen with other AIO's but not with the 240v.
It jumps, more or less immediately, to the point at which it should stabilise much later. That's the sort of behaviour I'd expect from a copper air cooler not an liquid based AIO. To be fair the temps aren't bad, hovering around 70 with spikes to just under 80 running Aida 64's CPU stress test, but it's just odd behaviour.
stefw82
26 May 17#18
My i7 7700k still jusmp/spike and sounds like that is normal. Arctic sent me out a am4 mounting bracket fot free, I just went to their site and completed a form in 5mins, thought best get it at the time as hadn't decided on ryzen or i7
ritchiedrama
26 May 17#19
The 7700K has spiking issues, they said it's fine themselves, even though imo it shouldn't happen. Huge thread about it on intel forums. Mine doesn't spike higher than 71 though.
mercutio98uk
26 May 17#21
Good spot, I'd not seen that Arctic were on with it.
Send proof of purchase of 120/240/360 cooler to [email protected] for a free mounting kit.
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Opening post
What most people don't seem to realise is that all these types of AIO (with a couple of exceptions) are made by Asetek (who have a patent on the design).
If it's a "puck" waterblock+pump, 2 hoses and a radiator, chances are it's an Asetek design with some rebranding.
The performance of all these AIO's is basically the same (minus some small differences for fans included) as can be seen here:
https://www.eteknix.com/arctic-liquid-freezer-240-aio-cooler-review/5/
The above review shows this particular cooler outperforming most of the rest of the field (@240mm). Considering the price of most of these units is a long way north of £100, this particular unit, at this price, is rather special (unless one wants/needs RGB rainbows plastered all over everything).
The 360mm Arctic unit can generally be found at prices still cheaper than most of the 240mm from the "big names".
To say it again, these ARE all the same. Link here for proof: http://www.asetek.com/desktop/do-it-yourself/
For anyone who'd prefer. The same unit can be had from Amazon for £72:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B013WAY9UQ?ie=UTF8&tag=pric097-21&linkCode=xm2&camp=1634&creativeASIN=B013WAY9UQ&smid=AI6KGY3XG5B78
Do also be aware that twice the fans (even ditching 2 would give fairly equal performance) requires quite a bit more space. Generally about another 25mm of height/depth depending on orientation.
All comments (21)
Arctic warranty: 2 years. Corsair: 5 years, just so everyone is well informed :smiley:
I'm running a 2nd hand Corsair and an unbranded Asetek Gen 5 myself. No particular bias. I just find the "BEST 240mm EVER!" type stuff being tossed around for the newest gimmick-filled model rather tedious when they're all basically the same thing :smiley:
I said the fact they will cover damaged components if a leak occurs, is good.
Also with fractals new entry it's possible to upgrade your way to a full custom loop reusing parts from their AIO. That, for me, beats any of the other gimmicks on competing designs :smiley:
If it's in the realms of: 24c ambient, 30c idle, 50c load - that's quite normal/expected. VERY good thermal paste might get you a couple of degrees back (at most unless you're using mayonnaise or something :stuck_out_tongue: ). Improving your general airflow through your case will help too.
HWmonitor by CPUID gives a bunch of useful info (you sound to already have sources but... comparisons might help) regarding temperatures/voltages/etc.
Those with Ryzen based systems, these aren't yet AM4 compatible. It only requires a simple, cheap mounting kit though. Google for "Asetek Liquid Cooler AMD AM4 Retention Ring Kit". Should cost you less than a fiver.
It jumps, more or less immediately, to the point at which it should stabilise much later. That's the sort of behaviour I'd expect from a copper air cooler not an liquid based AIO. To be fair the temps aren't bad, hovering around 70 with spikes to just under 80 running Aida 64's CPU stress test, but it's just odd behaviour.
Send proof of purchase of 120/240/360 cooler to [email protected] for a free mounting kit.