comes up as $125.99 for me am i missing something ?
answark
5 Apr 171#3
Did you select standard bundle ?
halfbakedjake to answark
5 Apr 17#4
yeah its adding on $6 for replacement warranty, can't see how to remove it
answark
5 Apr 17#5
weird, it doesn't even show me this option
halfbakedjake
5 Apr 171#6
works if i do it on my phone but adds that on if i do it on my laptop
nad12
5 Apr 17#7
Has this device been identified as having malware? I read many articles and it seems that most Chinese brands/imported phones have malware installed :-(
badboyofrock to nad12
5 Apr 17#15
That's a while ago now, and it was dodgy vendor installed firmware. Ask for a sealed box and you're fine.
dwl99
5 Apr 171#8
Select delivery country as USA and it vanishes. Then when you check out select the correct country.
I don't recommend that as an alternative to this deal. Other than the memory difference mentioned above, that eBay listing is also the non B20 China Version, which the seller states has a custom ROM and they have a warning that flashing a newer ROM will void their warranty. In order to install a custom ROM, they open the box and could have installed other crapware/malware alongside it. However, this deal is a B20 Global Version that will be sealed and pre-installed with the official Global ROM.
Krooner to aamir34
6 Apr 17#52
Who ships it from China anyway.
gap30
5 Apr 17#11
Thanks OP ordered for the mother in law
wayners
5 Apr 17#12
Pc browser you can remove the 6 dollars if memory serves.. Think you can't through app, if I have that correct way around..
badboyofrock
5 Apr 171#14
And I'm betting that it'll come from China. That's a long delivery time from Manchester.
nad12
5 Apr 17#17
So are we saying, that if I were to order a Chinese branded (i.e. Xiaomi, Lenovo, Cubot, Oppo, Vivo, etc..) phone from China but providing it has a Global ROM installed (not Custom ROM), it's fully sealed upon arrival, and say Android 6 (or greater) installed - I shouldn't experience any nasty malware or spyware with it?
dreadzone101 to nad12
5 Apr 17#18
Not sure about other brands but for Xiaomi phones, Global ROM can be installed by the sellers if it's the Chinese version of the phone that they're selling, because a factory sealed Chinese version comes pre-installed with China ROM. Sellers install either their own custom/vendor ROM or the official global ROM so that it has Play Store etc for the Global Market. In this scenario, there's risk of malware etc. The "Global Version", however is different. It's a release for another region outside of China and it is factory pre-installed with the Official Global ROM. For a number of phones, the Global Version also comes with more bands compared to China Version. Sometimes sellers will sell both the Global Version of a phone and the Chinese Version with Global ROM. They'll usually be clear on which version it is, and some have comparison tables:
As you can see the Chinese Version has a pink "Official Global ROM" over the image but it will have been installed by seller as it's "opened box", whereas "International Version" (Global Version) would come pre-installed with Global ROM and is sealed.
nad12
5 Apr 17#19
Thanks very much. I wasn't aware of this. I always thought the Chinese manufacturers made some very good phones, for lesser prices than the equivalent UK sold device. However, I always steered clear due to the worry of malware/spyware. Now knowing the above I feel assured that purchasing a 'Global Version' with the Global ROM installed at factory, and it being sealed, I should receive a perfectly safe phone to use with no nasty surprises. Thanks again.
halfbakedjake
5 Apr 17#20
so is this 1 from aliexpress the sealed box global version?
nad12
5 Apr 17#21
GearBest have the same phone but stating two versions - 'Global Version + UK Plug' and the 'International Version'. The Global Version is £15 more expensive and can be shipped from China or HK. The International Version can only be shipped from HK.
Any ideas on what's going on here?
dreadzone101 to nad12
5 Apr 17#29
Judging by the Q&A asking about the differences, the International Version appears to be Gearbest's way of saying it just has the Global ROM installed but the band specs would suggest it's Chinese version since it doesn't list B20. The "Global Version" + UK Plug listing however does state B20 so that's the same version as this deal. If you are getting from Gearbest. Be aware of their different 2/16GB and 2/32GB listings since the pricing variation is a bit odd. Some seem to have a "Netmosa" option too. No idea what that one is.
Cavity
5 Apr 17#22
Stay clear of AliExpress. Myself and three others are having issues obtaining refunds for undelivered items. Go with Gearbest and Geekbuying over AliExpress.
essexsi to Cavity
5 Apr 17#24
Can i ask which seller on Aliexpress? As i am looking at a phone on there. Cheers Si
dcx_badass to Cavity
5 Apr 172#28
Aliexpress is a market place, without telling us which seller your post is useless. I've spend thousands and ordered hundreds of items, never had a single real issue. Any problems the seller wouldn't help with aliexpress support refunded me for instead
Personally I'd always just reflash it myself for peace of mind, it's easy enough to do.
bargaindeals to Cavity
5 Apr 17#31
I totally agree with this statement. Like others, in the past I have ordered many items through AliExpress (all being for an amount that I can afford to lose) without any problems but it must be understood that you have no UK consumer protection when goods are purchased from the Far East and the AliExpress (so called) 'guarantee' is as good as useless, as I have found out.
dreadzone101
5 Apr 17#23
Yeah, I think so. The same seller has a number of Redmi 4A listings. Ones with "Global Version" in title like this deal, should be sealed and the ones with "Original" in title or "Global MIUI/ROM" tagged on the image corner will be China version which they've flashed with Global ROM.
badboyofrock
5 Apr 17#25
That's interesting, and makes some sense as I've always thought they use the word 'original' where some would use 'genuine'.
dreadzone101
5 Apr 17#26
I think they do use it to have that meaning too. Because in the "Global Version" listings, they have a stamp over the primary image saying 100% Original at the top, even though they don't have the word in the title, which would suggest they just mean 'genuine' in that sense. Whereas the differences in the titles, would suggest 'Original' is meant as 'initial/first' model (Chinese).
dan444
5 Apr 17#27
Does this phone have a fingerprint sensor?
The pic on aliexpress does not have one, the pic here does.
GaryM
5 Apr 17#30
May I ask what the phone is like ? looking for a new phone for my better half, she has an iphone 5s at the moment and just use's it for the obvious and browsing facebook etc, will this do a good job and is the camera any good, sorry for all the questions but it appears there are a few here who know their stuff !!!
winchman
5 Apr 17#32
If you use the app you can get $8 coupon bringing it down to £75.
dont forget topcashback i got £6.92 pending on this transaction today thanks again op
Cavity
6 Apr 17#35
Xiaomi Store.
Cavity
6 Apr 17#36
AliExpress is a market place no different to eBay except unlike eBay it provides the sellers with its free delivery. I have not received my item but AliExpress have insisted that i continue to wait. It's been over two months and now that their waiting period has expired they've stopped replying to my proposals in the 'dispute'. Like i said better of going with Banggood, Gearbest and Geekbuying because they're the best of a bad bunch.
dcx_badass
6 Apr 17#37
Well I've had 5-10 refunds from them very quickly without a single issue. Where as Gerbest/Banggood normally just try and fob you off with site credit, aliexpress are bigger than amazon, that wouldn't have happened if they were as bad as you make out.
A coupon gets added when you put the item into basket/cart "Get ￡16.26 off when you spend over ￡89.41 in this store." You also have to select "Ship to U.S" before adding to basket, to get the full deduction otherwise it'll add a warranty fee.
Cavity
6 Apr 17#41
You say very quickly, how long did it take? And what did you say or do? Because maybe i could try the same. It's been over two months. I ordered in late January.
sb170
6 Apr 17#42
Never used aliexpress but have used gear best and so far two things out of dozens have failed to arrive, waited for there specified time as stated, one was refunded fully and the other was resent no real hassles just a long wait.
sb170
6 Apr 17#43
Just state you should have listened to the bad reviews on hduk and will take your future buisness to gearbest and will tell everyone to avoid them.
plewis00
6 Apr 17#44
I very much doubt they will care, most of these companies don't. I don't think that the odd person complaining or threatening to do this impacts them much or that they even know what HUKD is; because people will still buy cheap phones where there is an option to do so even with bad reviews.
GustafPangmaar
6 Apr 17#45
last phone I bought was the OnePlusOne when it was still invite only, I still have it and it's still working well, I was thinking of getting a new phone mostly due to wear and tear can anyone tell me if this would be considered an upgrade from the OnePlusOne? I mean side by side looks like less memory but I'm just not sure in terms of chipset model, features etc... appreciate it if someone more informed could chip in here.
winchman to GustafPangmaar
6 Apr 172#46
No, this not an upgrade, the Mi 5 would be an upgrade. Have a look at the redmi note 4 perhaps, good phone, an upgrade in looks but not really in performance..
MDL199 to GustafPangmaar
6 Apr 172#49
Think of this phone as a competitor to last year's Moto G or the Huawei P8 Lite. Xiaomi phones are usually more stylish then most of the competition.
The phone you should look at is the Xiaomi Redmi Note 4. It's an amazing phone and on par with OnePlus in terms of styling. Performance wise I'd compare it to the Samsung Galaxy A 2017 edition which goes for £349.99 sim free.
Here is the cheapest seller on Ali Express at the minute and this is the global version which will work on all UK 4g networks. It's a beautiful and brilliant phone.
Global Version Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Qualcomm 3GB 32GB Smartphone Snapdragon 625 Octa Core 13.0MP Camera Fingerprint Support OTA http://s.aliexpress.com/aiqIVNJF
(from AliExpress Android)
I bought the Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 global edition from this seller and it's absolutely fantastic. Xiaomi are China's premium brand so this will good quality even if it's their budget phone.
GustafPangmaar
6 Apr 171#50
Thanks for the info and the link, I'll definitely have a look, quick google around looks like they've released the Redmi Note 5 in India already, so perhaps worth a month or 2's wait to see if a global version springs up. looks like a decent phone.
dreadzone101
6 Apr 171#51
Redmi Note 5 hasn't been announced or released anywhere yet so it'll be Redmi Note 4, not 5 that you're seeing. It was announced/released in India in January. The Global Version with B20 was released in the last month or two and is the phone the previous person is talking about. It might be either Singapore or Malaysia version as their versions have B20. It's essentially the RN4 equivalent to the Taiwan RN3 SE. The Global Version Redmi Note 4 has been posted here a few times.
sb170
6 Apr 17#53
Worked for me with gearbest when they initially refused refund ,mentioned hduk and they refunded me in full so it does work and bad publicity does matter.
plewis00
6 Apr 17#54
You may have been lucky then but most big companies just don't care - look at CeX on Trustpilot for example.
bargaindeals
6 Apr 17#55
Did you check out the reviews for AliExpress on Trustpilot, plewis00? https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.aliexpress.com
Happy reading and the best of luck to those who would still want to buy from them!!
dcx_badass
7 Apr 171#56
I raised the claim, I think the seller gets 5-10 days to respond, if the tracking doesn't work, or in the case of flash memory (which I no longer buy) I upload a h2testw screenshot, then aliexpress rules in my favour and I get a refund in the standard 2-3 days. No problems, sometimes the seller will refund once you raise a legitimate issue though.
Have you not read this thread or used google? Aliexpress is a market place, the reviews are only as good as the seller, use a good seller and you're fine. The aliexpress platform is fine as indicated by the fact they are the biggest retail platform in the world.
I was actually replying to someone who mentioned about Trustpilot reviews. As far as AliExpress are concerned there are over 3.5 thousand reviews, some good but mostly bad, and I always consider reading of others experiences and then make my own mind up, bearing in mind that you will not be covered (as in this case) by any consumer protection laws .
Like others I was only highlighting possible problems with using this company like them requiring video evidence of an item not being received or a battery not charging before they will consider dealing with their 'dispute' system - are they for real !!!!.
I wouldn't dream of trying to convince anyone not to purchase from a particular source as I'm mindful of others 'it won't happen to me' mentality but more importantly the saying about a fool and his money.
dreadzone101
7 Apr 17#61
If you look for evidence to support negative views towards anything you'll find it but it'll be a skewed perspective which never paints the full picture. Amazon has twice the review amount and has a lower rating. Stating there's 3.5K Aliexpress reviews gives no indication on the amount of customers they serve or how many of them make transactions without a problem. The amount of people who have had bad experiences could be less than 0.01% of that. When you buy something online, you expect it to arrive on your door without any issues. When it happens, people don't go seeking review sites to tell others that things went as expected but if there is a problem, people are inclined to let others know and warn them away. So you'll always evidence to suggest possible problems but this doesn't indicate to anyone the likelihood of encountering them.
bargaindeals
7 Apr 17#62
Your reply beggars belief given its irrelevance to my post, which clearly you didn't understand.
The facts are simple, if you purchase from AliExpress you will not be covered by our consumer laws or (if the purchase is under £100) Section 75 of the Consumer Credit Act or any protection PayPal might offer (AliExpress don't accept PayPal payments). The only protection you get is 'good will', and that appears to be geared towards the seller, not the buyer.
So should you have a problem (faulty/substandard goods, non delivery etc) then you run the risk of kissing your money goodbye.
People use review sites, and ones like HUKD, to advise their experiences with products and/or a supplier thus giving the reader the chance to make an informed decision before making a purchase.
If you're the type of person who prefers to 'bury their head in the sand' then that's your business.
GustafPangmaar
7 Apr 17#63
well, I'm not saying you are wrong but the Redmi note 5 is definitely whats being discussed in India atm so not sure what you mean when you say there's been no announcements or releases of the Note 5? if there's even a small chance of a global note 5 release in the next few months I'm happy to wait. :smiley:
Aliexpress include a 1 year warranty, not saying its any good but it does offer more benefits than you get from gearbest or banggood. I've been offered £10 for a defective 8 month old phone from banggood, pretty poor considering it should be still under warranty.
dcx_badass
7 Apr 171#65
No, they are correct, the Redmi Note 4 Mediatek version only came out late last year in China and the Snapdragon version has only just come out in India, the Note 5 will be 6 months away minimum, you always get fake news sites making up random junk about future Xiaomi's that is never ever correct this early.
winchman
8 Apr 17#66
There is another Xiaomi store coupon with $2/£1.63 off. Making it £79.78.
ItsFrazer
8 Apr 17#67
Will this work with my uk Id mobile sim? There's no import charge or any weird implications?
winchman to ItsFrazer
9 Apr 17#68
Yes, be fine with Id. You may get charged VAT, better to use the free postage, don't use dhl.
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Seller: Xiaomi Online Store, 97.8% positive (out of 80031) feedbacks
Price is $119.99 but it goes down to $99.99 (£80.15) when added to basket.
Snapdragon 425
Quad Core CPU
2GB RAM
32GB ROM
5.0"
3120mAh Battery
13MP Camera
MIUI 8.1
Android 6.0.1
2G: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz
3G: WCDMA 850/900/1900/2100MHz;
4G: FDD LTE B1/3/4/5/7/20 ( 2100/ 1800/ 1700/ 850/ 2600 / 800); TD-LTE B38:2600/B40 (2300MHZ)
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Xiaomi-Redmi-4A-5-Snapdragon-425-Quad-Core-2GB-16GB-Dual-SIM-Smartphone-Gold-/162438383304?hash=item25d21506c8:g:FpMAAOSwOgdYx6-T
As you can see the Chinese Version has a pink "Official Global ROM" over the image but it will have been installed by seller as it's "opened box", whereas "International Version" (Global Version) would come pre-installed with Global ROM and is sealed.
Any ideas on what's going on here?
Personally I'd always just reflash it myself for peace of mind, it's easy enough to do.
The pic on aliexpress does not have one, the pic here does.
Note 4 also has $20 off.
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32795263337.html
https://sale.aliexpress.com/__pc/sHRMhAB7at.htm
The phone you should look at is the Xiaomi Redmi Note 4. It's an amazing phone and on par with OnePlus in terms of styling. Performance wise I'd compare it to the Samsung Galaxy A 2017 edition which goes for £349.99 sim free.
Here is the cheapest seller on Ali Express at the minute and this is the global version which will work on all UK 4g networks. It's a beautiful and brilliant phone.
Global Version Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Qualcomm 3GB 32GB Smartphone Snapdragon 625 Octa Core 13.0MP Camera Fingerprint Support OTA
http://s.aliexpress.com/aiqIVNJF
(from AliExpress Android)
https://sale.aliexpress.com/__pc/sHRMhAB7at.htm
https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.aliexpress.com
Happy reading and the best of luck to those who would still want to buy from them!!
Have you not read this thread or used google? Aliexpress is a market place, the reviews are only as good as the seller, use a good seller and you're fine. The aliexpress platform is fine as indicated by the fact they are the biggest retail platform in the world.
https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.paypal.co.uk
https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.amazon.co.uk
Best of luck convincing others that Trustpilot ratings are indicative of the sites they should not be using.
The pic on aliexpress does not have one, and no mention of fingerprint scanner in text
Thanks!
Good review of this phone here
https://youtu.be/PCX49Nv6PIk
Like others I was only highlighting possible problems with using this company like them requiring video evidence of an item not being received or a battery not charging before they will consider dealing with their 'dispute' system - are they for real !!!!.
I wouldn't dream of trying to convince anyone not to purchase from a particular source as I'm mindful of others 'it won't happen to me' mentality but more importantly the saying about a fool and his money.
The facts are simple, if you purchase from AliExpress you will not be covered by our consumer laws or (if the purchase is under £100) Section 75 of the Consumer Credit Act or any protection PayPal might offer (AliExpress don't accept PayPal payments). The only protection you get is 'good will', and that appears to be geared towards the seller, not the buyer.
So should you have a problem (faulty/substandard goods, non delivery etc) then you run the risk of kissing your money goodbye.
People use review sites, and ones like HUKD, to advise their experiences with products and/or a supplier thus giving the reader the chance to make an informed decision before making a purchase.
If you're the type of person who prefers to 'bury their head in the sand' then that's your business.
https://www.smartprix.com/mobiles/xiaomi-redmi-note-5-p1101ff7a68a