Brilliant. I've been waiting for my local chippy to do their chips for £1 instead of £1.30 but they blame Brexit and Potato prices, so I've been starving for months now.
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4Real2016
14 Apr 17#40
That's a contradiction, it's not native 4K when it's using checkerboard, checkerboard is an upscaling method, in this case to get 4K.
You can't go by Youtube videos, all Youtube videos are compressed, that's why Digital Foundry sometimes release the uncompressed versions of their videos.
It's not all just about FPS and resolution either, there are other graphical enhancements for Pro games, the same sort of stuff you would expect a choice of on PC, but in this case it's in the developers hands what's on or off.
You really need to see it up close and personal to make a true comparison, whether that's 1080p vs 1080p or vs 4K, if you still feel the same then that's cool.
fishmaster
14 Apr 17#39
I agree, you'd have to look for the extra detail in Horizon Zero Dawn for example rather than it being stand out obvious, there's a comparison or comparison videos between 1080P and 4K for Horizon Zero Dawn on YouTube.
jc314
13 Apr 17#1
I'm getting close to biting, think I'll wait until its sub £300 though...
fishmaster to jc314
13 Apr 173#5
Brilliant. I've been waiting for my local chippy to do their chips for £1 instead of £1.30 but they blame Brexit and Potato prices, so I've been starving for months now.
Chasloyal to jc314
13 Apr 17#11
I can get this for £308 right now and just got a 4K 65 incher week before last but I'm still on the fence, I got a feeling Sony have a very enticing trick up their sleeve for the launch of Scorpio.
Apart from that these basic black PS4's and white Xbone's are plain as fxxx so would rather wait for a different coloured edition to drop anyway.
Still a decent price though so heat from the Chas.
AriannaC to jc314
14 Apr 17#38
haha, same! the price will drop. :stuck_out_tongue:
WelshJester
14 Apr 17#37
Was thinking of getting one of these with a 15% eBay code recently, ended up buying something else, then a 1440p 165hz screen with a 1080Ti.
Much bigger outlay i know, but well at least high frame rates are not a problem :stuck_out_tongue:
MRP
14 Apr 17#36
For 4K its really good, thats the point of the device. Horizon is 4K native(checkerboard rendering) and HDR enabled.
It's a personal choice. The next gen will blow these away of course. The main thing is to play/experience the game itself. Always.
Chasloyal
14 Apr 17#35
Well my missus concurs, she gave him the name 'cyclops dwarf' the first time he served us in store which is a bit harsh as he is harmless enough but it's also very funny :smile:
haritori
13 Apr 171#34
Ive got a 4K TV and realistically I am not sure the upgrade is worth it even if you have a 4K TV..
makershaker
13 Apr 17#33
For the minimal difference on the PS4 Pro.. It aint worth the money.
tomrowlands52
13 Apr 17#32
lol/ Nope! He sounds oddly strange though!
Jawz
13 Apr 17#31
Yeah I like to stick PS4 on any chance the mrs isnt around.
Seems a very confusing market with TV's at the moment.
Oled and the new led and 4k etc.
Think I may waot another 12 months and see of its all sorted otself out. Alot of new tech thats being tweeked (Oled) and old tech being sold as new with clever marketing (Quantom Dot)
With 4K not being the norm and nvidea and HDR battling it out.. prob best to wait for the dust to settle!
It is hard though as my tech head is craving the next big tecno purchase
gamblor
13 Apr 17#30
Interesting... some testing to be done before I consider flogging the standard then. Thanks! :smiley:
tomrowlands52
13 Apr 17#27
Well I didn't NEED it ... But bought it regardless. I too have a good friend on the inside.. £308! Awesome.
Switch and BOTW and PS4 both up for sale now. Should easily pay for this.
Cheers OP>
Chasloyal to tomrowlands52
13 Apr 17#29
It's not someone who is very short and whose eyes have directional issues that works in Nottingham JL is it? Can't any say more than that on here :smile:
fishmaster
13 Apr 171#28
Well life's not fair but you have to make the most of it :smiley:
Chasloyal
13 Apr 17#26
Yeah they do :smile: I'm not a particularly happy bunny about my Xbone though, the controllers are sat there without a console at the minute. I had to send it off to MS repairs in Frankfurt yesterday as it totally bricked last week.
MS customer service is even worse than Sony, I dread to think how long it will be without the thing. In fact that reminds me to check if UPS have actually collected the package from the shop collection point I had to drop it off at last night.
Kenp8257
13 Apr 17#25
Just noticed the controllers - they look so small against the tv, ha ha :sunglasses:
Kenp8257
13 Apr 17#24
Cool!!
Chasloyal
13 Apr 171#23
I'm more than happy with my old PS4 for the time being and even if I wasn't I wouldn't as we've spent enough recently :smile:
It must be said John Lewis Waitrose do look after their partners to be honest, we got this Bravia 65XE9005 in a specia; partner extravaganza for 1700 quid a couple of weeks ago
Jawz
13 Apr 17#9
Have 1080p 51inch Samsung Plasma.
Keep swinging back and fourth between either uograding to PS4 Pro or getting a new 4K Oled or Samsung Quantom Dot TV.
But they both sort of go hand in hand.
May wait until PS5 and upgrade both then. Save me around 2k-4k.
Hard seeing all the new TV's (as my 51inch seems alot smaller) than it used to, so tempted to go 65 or 75(if price comes down) but prob wrong time to buy and is PS4 Pro, really that much difference to a PS4?
Worth every penny, save you a few bob too - even after you buy a PS4 Pro....
4Real2016 to Jawz
13 Apr 17#22
If your a heavy gamer you might want to give OLED a miss, they can suffer from image retention just like plasma do, very unlikely you would ever get screen burn though, it's not impossible, plenty of OLED phones have it, but it's due to constantly displaying the same home screens/icons.
Kenp8257
13 Apr 17#21
Awesome. If I were you I'd get it now with the game. ..... sounds a great deal for you...
Chasloyal
13 Apr 171#19
Well yeah my missus works for Waitrose so I got a partner's partner card that gets me 12% off electricals and 25% off everything else in John Lewis :wink:
Kenp8257
13 Apr 17#18
How have you managed to get one for £308; - do you have a special discount to get it at £308?
Kenp8257
13 Apr 17#17
If you have PS Plus the games should save to PSN so you could simply log into another PS4 load up the game and continue playing.....
Again. ... assuming game save was uploaded in the first place. ....
sparc
13 Apr 171#8
I already have two standard PS4's for downstairs and in the bedroom so it's hard to justify it until I go 4k.
gamblor to sparc
13 Apr 17#16
Can you pick up a saved game from one and continue playing on the other? Just thinking ahead to if/when I end up getting a Pro and relegate the standard to the bedroom.
But it's second hand without game for only a score less? :smirk:
hitsta
13 Apr 17#14
Got mine new off eBay for 275£ just gotta wait for it now
tee_tee
13 Apr 17#12
I've had an lg 4K set for a year now.. recently bit the bullet and brought the ps4 pro from the GameStop Ireland deal.. as prices haven't moved. Couldn't be bothered to wait any longer. Just been delivered by DPD and transferring data from my standard mint ps4. After which will be going on sale. Cant wait to play on the pro
Kranark
13 Apr 17#10
Obviously, comedy isn't your strong trait.
MRP
13 Apr 17#7
Best game to bundle.
At 1080p it's up to you but supersampling in Horizon is a tiny improvement as the game uses txaa at 1080p which is already flawless almost 100% of the time.supersampling hits 100
M1LFHunter
13 Apr 17#6
Getting a gold HDMI cable will make it look even better, too. You can rly tell the difference, honest.*
*Justification for wasting money on a PS4 Pro klaxon alert!
sparc
13 Apr 17#2
How many Pro owners have a 1080p tv?
4Real2016 to sparc
13 Apr 171#3
I do but I never owned the standard PS4, I certainly like having the extra options available which are only going to improve with newly developed games.
Boost mode is great for those games that wouldn't run at a perfectly locked fps, certainly makes a difference with 30fps games, which really don't have any wiggle room in the first place for fps drops.
Game streaming at 1080p instead of 720p.
Extra USB on the back is also handy now you have expanded memory for external drives, optical out is also nice if you need one.
fishmaster to sparc
13 Apr 171#4
I don't know the exact figure if you're being specific, but there will be some that's for sure. I have a 1080P TV and a standard PS4, I wouldn't upgrade to a Pro for the marginal improvement, meaning it's not worth selling my PS4 and buying a new TV and a PS4 Pro.
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You can't go by Youtube videos, all Youtube videos are compressed, that's why Digital Foundry sometimes release the uncompressed versions of their videos.
It's not all just about FPS and resolution either, there are other graphical enhancements for Pro games, the same sort of stuff you would expect a choice of on PC, but in this case it's in the developers hands what's on or off.
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2016/11/01/how-ps4-pro-enhances-horizon-zero-dawn/
You really need to see it up close and personal to make a true comparison, whether that's 1080p vs 1080p or vs 4K, if you still feel the same then that's cool.
Apart from that these basic black PS4's and white Xbone's are plain as fxxx so would rather wait for a different coloured edition to drop anyway.
Still a decent price though so heat from the Chas.
Much bigger outlay i know, but well at least high frame rates are not a problem :stuck_out_tongue:
It's a personal choice. The next gen will blow these away of course. The main thing is to play/experience the game itself. Always.
Seems a very confusing market with TV's at the moment.
Oled and the new led and 4k etc.
Think I may waot another 12 months and see of its all sorted otself out. Alot of new tech thats being tweeked (Oled) and old tech being sold as new with clever marketing (Quantom Dot)
With 4K not being the norm and nvidea and HDR battling it out.. prob best to wait for the dust to settle!
It is hard though as my tech head is craving the next big tecno purchase
Switch and BOTW and PS4 both up for sale now. Should easily pay for this.
Cheers OP>
MS customer service is even worse than Sony, I dread to think how long it will be without the thing. In fact that reminds me to check if UPS have actually collected the package from the shop collection point I had to drop it off at last night.
:sunglasses:
It must be said John Lewis Waitrose do look after their partners to be honest, we got this Bravia 65XE9005 in a specia; partner extravaganza for 1700 quid a couple of weeks ago
Keep swinging back and fourth between either uograding to PS4 Pro or getting a new 4K Oled or Samsung Quantom Dot TV.
But they both sort of go hand in hand.
May wait until PS5 and upgrade both then. Save me around 2k-4k.
Hard seeing all the new TV's (as my 51inch seems alot smaller) than it used to, so tempted to go 65 or 75(if price comes down) but prob wrong time to buy and is PS4 Pro, really that much difference to a PS4?
Get this one - top end 2016 model. ... FULL array
£2,199 - 65" Samsung KS9500
http://www.applianceelectronics.co.uk/viewproduct.asp?pid=11870
Worth every penny, save you a few bob too - even after you buy a PS4 Pro....
Again. ... assuming game save was uploaded in the first place. ....
At 1080p it's up to you but supersampling in Horizon is a tiny improvement as the game uses txaa at 1080p which is already flawless almost 100% of the time.supersampling hits 100
*Justification for wasting money on a PS4 Pro klaxon alert!
Boost mode is great for those games that wouldn't run at a perfectly locked fps, certainly makes a difference with 30fps games, which really don't have any wiggle room in the first place for fps drops.
Game streaming at 1080p instead of 720p.
Extra USB on the back is also handy now you have expanded memory for external drives, optical out is also nice if you need one.