Absolutely true. That's why I recently bought 250 32GB USB drives instead of one 8TB drive. Massively inconvenient but at least I'll only lose what's on an individual 32GB drive if it dies.

That's a lotta porn

£180,000? Yikes.

Yeah but you can increase your odds by not smoking, not motorcycling and not Seagate...ing

Still available at £179 and still cheaper than buying the bare drive contained inside

( bare drive is > £202 on ebuyer, scan and amazon:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Computers-Accessories/Seagate-ST8000AS0002-Archive-HDD-V2-8000-Internal/B00XS423SC)

Weirdly however just got my last 1TB drive to transfer and things are going across at a pretty sustained 140MB/s so perhaps a problem with my PC or cabling before (Had a small clean up and shuffling of cables when removing my 3TB drives)

Second one from Amazon worked fine but as others have said this really isn't a drive for constant writing, I copied my existing 6TB or so of data across (Mainly dual layer sized DVD backup files) and it was average around 30mb write so took several days to complete.

However reading is between 180mb and 200mb so now the files are on there no problems in getting access to them when I need to.

I was going to buy another and rip it out of the casing so I would have an internal and external drive setup in case of failure but for my internal one I'll now probably end up buying something like the slightly more expensive IronWolf.

Bought mine today from Argos, literally the last one in the whole area, just my luck the thing is dead out of the box! Seems to be a problem with the actual enclosure, when you plug it all in you just get a LOUD buzzing noise (think electric shaver type sound) and you can't hear the drive spin up, Windows does detect something when you plug it into the USB but not the actual drive as it doesn't show up in Disk Management.

Oh well, will return tomorrow for a refund and ordered one tonight from Amazon instead which should be here tomorrow so can have another go!

If indeed its a Seagate ST8000AS0002 Archive SMR drive inside, caution should be used as these drives are designed mostly for archive/storing purposes and are not very friendly for repeated read/write. I am in the market for a large drive and some of the reviews for this drive are not very positive, however people that simply used them to write once on these and simply retrieve the data are much happier

Managed to grab one from Amazon Warehouse @ £167. Ran an extended test in Seatools and in HDTunePro. Checked CrystalDiskInfo and the drive had been powered on a few times. Overall well happy with that.

The temps were high and I got a red alert in HDTunePro. The drive was on it's side where the vents are as opposed to laying flat. So layed it flat like how you see most drives and it went away after sustained periods. Anyway spoke to Amazon on live chat about it, either a return or 10% partial refund :smiley: so got a 8tb for £150.

This £179.99 price looks set to stay as they had a expected delivery date of May 23-30 and now it has been edited to in full stock so this is a great deal.

Make sure to always run full tests (You will know as it will take 4+ hours to finish) before transferring data onto it.

Thanks for the response. Maybe it would be worth getting a replacement and seeing how it functions.
Sadly the price of the drive has now increased by ten pounds.

It passed a short test, but I'm not around to do the long generic test. I did read the drive in CrystalDiskInfo which said it was fine, but the value seems to always flag up as red under HDTunepro for airflow temp. I have had this error with a 2TB Seagate in the past, but it still works OK. Regardless, I will probably be refunding this 8TB drive.

Did you run SeaTools short and long generic tests? If so, what are the results?
I was considering buying two drives but after reading your message I'm concerned.

Received the drive today, all well so far and very quiet. It passes the SMART tests in HD Tune Pro and Seagate Tools. Comes out of the box with high raw read/seek error rate values, but this seems to be ignorable on Seagate drives from my experience.

SMART results: https://s2.postimg.org/s6s59tvi1/drive.png

Update: After writing data to it for awhile, it's failed on 'Airflow temperature' now. Only shows this though in HD Tune pro, and not in Seagate tools, hmm.

forgot to mention... maybe will get topcashback £2.5 plus 1.05% too.... i guess £2.5 is by invitation only on first transaction.

got mine today, have been copying from my usb 2.0 port laptop(old & slow) since 7-8 hours from my other 1tb seagate (4 year old)... it is slightly heated but lesser then my 1tb segate... so overall happy withit.... will use this as a backup hdd... as losing 8tb of data will be heart breaking..... it is still running and probably will keep it on for another 2-3 days... :stuck_out_tongue:
bought from argos and and used 10 gbp voucher on chromecast so all sorted out.

Seagate and WD reliable for me, whether internal or external. Toshiba internal in last year proved most unreliable with 6 fails !

Seagate drives are not very reliable, ive had 3 drives totally fail and they have all been seagates the last one was one of there external 1tb it failed in 2 weeks. Im affraid its to big of a risk to store 8tb of data on a Seagate drive thats why they are cheap.

I guess they will all have a failure rate but my experience (admittedly a very small sample) says don't get another Seagate...I'd feel stupid if I did and I had another failure. Same reason I'd never buy another Peugeot car, Honda car or Asus tablet. I'll probably run out of manufacturers eventually and have to live like a hermit.

To be fair I have had Maxtor fail as well...

Ermmm ... Seagate is an American co.?

I hope you didn't pay £180,000 for your HDD? That's definitely not a bargain! :smiley:

bought two thanks op :stuck_out_tongue:

I read somewhere that the PS4 doesn't like Huns drives. So for example the expansion drive works no problems but I haven't heard any reports on this one.

Will this work with a PS4?

Fair enough :smile:

Having a backup method in place is often mentioned in threads like these without ever being expanded on.

What form of backup are people using for non-crital media files that total 30-40TB+?

Unraid is one I've heard about and may consider.

Thanks.

My post was a JOKE

And the clue is in the name "BACKUP"

Use it as a backup drive, another copy of data stored elsewhere.....

I bought a 6tb without the hub last year from Argos when it was £129.99 . I was a bit worried with Seagate's reputation for reliability plus the new smr technology but so far no problems at all. The only thing is it is a bit slow to write to and it seems to be spinning constantly unlike my other externals which sleep when not in use.

Only if you're doing it wrong.
The hate is usually due to people taking the likes of Backblaze failure reports at face value without any insight or understanding of the limited amount of information released.

HDD manufacturers are all largely the same. I have mostly WDs now with a couple of Seagates, but the opposite used to be true, and could be again if Seagate drives come up on offer more often.

As I alluded to above, if your data storage/backup regime cannot cope with a drive failure, you're doing it wrong.

It's a Seagate thread - it's going to bring out the Seagate haters. It's about a [for now] large drive - it's going to bring out the large drive haters.

WD threads bring out the WD haters.

In reality there's nothing to choose between WD and Seagate. Both have occasional failures. Such is life.

Also, Moore's Law has nothing to do with Hard Drives, and is bogus.
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You fell for it
Someone inevitably says this whenever anyone posts a post about a largish drive!

I'll second polly69's post though...used maxtor, wd, Hitachi and Seagate drives myself and only had failures from seagates. The other drives survived long enough for my data to make it into a bigger drive as and when required. OK, my Seagate failures were a number of years ago but I just wouldn't trust my data with them after my experiences. They may have moved on and be producing more reliable drives now...but I don't really fancy testing that with my data thanks.

great price for 8tb £22.50 per Gigabyte

People have been saying this since the 1GB drives came out in the 90's...

Moores Law means we have to move and adapt.

Haha

Absolutely true. That's why I recently bought 250 32GB USB drives instead of one 8TB drive. Massively inconvenient but at least I'll only lose what's on an individual 32GB drive if it dies.

Apparently this is the drive inside...
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Which is a SMR drive according to Seagate.
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But about £50 cheaper than buying it as an internal drive.

That's a lotta porn

Yeah but you can increase your odds by not smoking, not motorcycling and not Seagate...ing

Fab price..........but as always it's a gamble :wink:

Same price at Argos