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Newbold
18 Apr 17
Stunningly good price for these excellent rechargeables - probably the best around.

Money-saving and long-lasting, these rechargable NiMH eneloop batteries are ready to use out of the packet (pre-charged).

They can be charged up to 2100 times – saving you money and avoids the waste of 2,100 batteries. They also keep their charge - retaining 70% of their charge after 5 years.

These batteries are universally usable from digital cameras to MP3 players and remote controls. These ideal universal power supply for many household devices, even products that until now have run on alkaline batteries such as game consoles.

You no longer need “special batteries“ as eneloop is powerful enough to run all these applications without any problems.

Panasonic eneloop batteries were previously known as Sanyo eneloop. Panasonic bought the battery business from Sanyo and in future all eneloop batteries will be sold as Panasonic eneloop.

They can be recharged safely after partial discharge; so no worries about memory effect.

There’s also good performance at low temperatures down to -20C. (Battery life will be shorter than at room temperature)

With a higher usable capacity of up to 800mAh ( min 750mAh) than standard batteries and a higher voltage level, you will also beenefit*

Many applications switch off or show the low battery signal if the voltage is lower than 1.1V. A traditional Ni-MH battery will lose its voltage constantly and runs under this critical level very soon.

These eneloop batteries will keep the voltage level over 1.1V for a long time and only fall under that just before becoming empty. That's one reason why you can take more photos with eneloop.

These batteries are better for the environment as they are charged before sale using solar power.

Sanyo to Panasonic Name Change Information:
Launched in 2005 Eneloop is a brand developed by Sanyo. Following the acquisition of Sanyo by Panasonic in 2013, the fourth and latest generation of Eneloop was introduced in April that year. The packaging now states Panasonic instead of Sanyo on the label. The technological change is that the number of recharges was increased.

Specifications
Minimum capacity: 750 mAh
Voltage: 1.2 V
Life cycles: up to 2100 charges
Self-discharge: approx. 70% capacity after 5 years
Top comments
Orville
19 Apr 17 3 #33
Fujitsu purchased Sanyo's NimH battery business in 2009. Panasonic licensed the Eneloop brand from Sanyo, but Fujitsu manuifactures ALL Eneloop batteries. Some production has been moved to China but the perception is that Made in Japan cells are superior. In reality Eneloops made within Fujitsu's Japanese or Chinese plants are probably of equal quality.

All Pansonic beanded Eneloops and Fujitsu branded "Ready to Use" NimH are true "Eneloops". Amazon, Duracell and others have been known to sell rebranded Eneloops, but they do vary suppliers (not all are Eneloops). Eneloops and Fujitsu's are not the cheapest or highest-capacity NimH cells, but they are widely acknowledged as the best quality consumer rechargeable AA/AAA's that money can buy.

EDIT: I did a little research and found that in-testing, Chinese Eneloops are inferior to Japanese Eneloops. Best buy Fujitsu's (all are Japanese) or Eneloops made in Japan if you want them to last. See link below.
Chinese vs Japanese Eneloop test
summerof76
18 Apr 17 3 #5
Never heard of these rechargeable batteries, will give these a try for lights under the sink, heat added
All comments (49)
winter_zombie
18 Apr 17 3 #1
amazing battery's ive been using the AA for my xb1 controller for over a year and they are worth every penny.
good investment and much much better than any battery pack that can be brought for the controller.

heat from me :smiley:
Joey.Bloggsy
18 Apr 17 1 #2
Yeah good batteries.
Can you get a replacement if after 4 years they don't hold 70% :smile:
Newbold to Joey.Bloggsy
18 Apr 17 3 #3
Possibly - but it might be easier just to stick them in the charger for a while. :smiley:
summerof76 to Joey.Bloggsy
18 Apr 17 1 #4
What do you need batteries for ??? :innocent:
summerof76
18 Apr 17 3 #5
Never heard of these rechargeable batteries, will give these a try for lights under the sink, heat added
jsty3105 to summerof76
18 Apr 17 #8
hang around rechargeable battery deal threads more...
focusdriver
18 Apr 17 #6
Do you need a eneloop charger for these
Newbold to focusdriver
18 Apr 17 1 #7
No - you can use an ordinary charger.

But - these are extraordinarily good batteries (particularly at this price) and they deserve looking after so they last well. With that in mind I'd recommend something like this, or similar:

https://www.7dayshop.com/batteries-power-chargers/7dayshop-aa-and-aaa-intelligent-nimh-professional-ds-sc1000-fast-battery-charger-multi-mode-lcd-display
tezray
18 Apr 17 #9
Thanks good deal can get rid of pound shop ones now which have actually been ok so these should be very good. just need a good deal on AA now I have loads of pound shop ones and 4 eneloops but they are always in use
tezray
18 Apr 17 #11
If you spend that much might as well get an xtar charger so can do most batteries like 18650 for torches or vapes etc
AlarApprentice
18 Apr 17 #12
Plus 2.52% TCB...I agree, really good batteries, use them in my headtorch and also my cordless landline handset, which usually kills other rechargeables quite quickly due to lots of partial recharging; the current ones are lasting well.
Orville
18 Apr 17 2 #13
Great batteries. The Fujitsu "Ready to Use" are exactly the same as Eneloops for less money. Both are made within the same factory to identical specs, and both brands are owned by Fujitsu. Only the wrappers are different.

The Fujitsu AAA 900mAh are Eneloop Pro's.
Dodge62 to Orville
18 Apr 17 #24
You sure about that? This article says the Fujitsus are made in Japan, and the Eneloops in China.

Of course that might be old and they may have rationalised production to a single factory now.
tootricky
18 Apr 17 #14
great batteries fantastic price.
PG9999
18 Apr 17 #15
Superb deal and meanwhile disposable rubbish gets voted hot be sure it's a quid for a pack of x batteries which last a week.
thelondontrader
18 Apr 17 #16
OK price if you value a logo on the side of it, but you get similar ones from Amazon same mAh, 12 of them for a bit less so, with the difference being Eneloop lasts 2,100 cyles and Amazon 1,000 cycles. They all come from the same place apparently: http://rockfoto.it/2015/01/amazon-batteries-really-eneloop/

Amazon WHITE AAA batteries https://www.amazon.co.uk/AmazonBasics-Pre-Charged-Rechargeable-Batteries-Packaging/dp/B007B9NXAC (the blacks are a different thing: discussion here https://www.amazon.com/ask/questions/asin/B00HZV9WTM )

Would you ever recharge more than 1,000 times? In perspective, 1,000 charge cycles in a 5 year period is 200 per year, or once every other day.
At 2,100 that equals 420 charge cycles per year. Not sure they will last more than 5 years to be honest.
wackojacko99
18 Apr 17 #17
What about AA
Ronnyjoz to wackojacko99
18 Apr 17 1 #23
nextofkim
18 Apr 17 #18
Thanks OP!
winter_zombie
18 Apr 17 2 #19
Well if you have a few consoles in your home like i do and controllers then you will be charging the battery's every other day
i have 8 AA Eneloop and a eneloop charger and 4 out of the 8 are always on charge, so they can be swapped over and back on charge again. so our battery's are charged over 300 times a year if not more.
both me and my son have xb1 and we both use turtle beach x07 pro headset plugged into the controller and with the headset been 50mm drivers/speakers they hammer the battery's eneloop is a very good investment.
spinks
18 Apr 17 #20
Panasonic first introduced these type on 2014. How do we know they will have 70% charge in 5 years? :confused:

http://www.realwire.com/releases/Panasonic-launches-new-eneloop-rechargeable-batteries
spinks to spinks
18 Apr 17 #21
In not on :sunglasses:
reddragon105 to spinks
18 Apr 17 #22
Eneloops are the rechargeable batteries everyone should have - I use them professionally (in camera equipment) and they have never let me down. It's good to be able to fill a device up with batteries and know how long it's going to last.

But please note - to get the most out of these you really should get a smart charger, i.e. one that measures the batteries' voltages as it charges them and cuts off when they're full, rather than just 'throwing' electricity at them, and where you can control the charge rate and also discharge and refresh the batteries, all of which will prolong their life.


New Eneloops were launched in 2014. Eneloops in general have been around much longer than that, so presumably they know the new ones will last 5 years because the old ones did. Also presumably they tested them during R&D. I've got some that are at least 6 years old and they still seem to hold most of their charge - will have to test them to see exactly how much.
mark_398 to spinks
24 Apr 17 #47
Same comment can be made about just about any lifetime guaranteed product. Google up on accelerated life testing....
Joey.Bloggsy
19 Apr 17 #25
Stop it you :wink:
tezray
19 Apr 17 #26
What charger do you recommend for discharging I use xtar vc4 for my batteries and 18650 but would like a descent charger just for aaa and aa but it is hard to choose one that is actually good
gap30
19 Apr 17 #28
Thanks OP went for the Fujitsu instead

blast from the past, these batteries used to be all the rage on here
JamesSmith
19 Apr 17 #29
I have this charger it's good. Has useful discharge, refresh and capacity testing features. Known reputable model with lot's of good reviews and lacks quirks (eg don't have to charge in pairs etc). Display isn't backlit, if that's an issue attach a gooseneck LED lamp to the USB output at the back :smile:

They do another version for the newer types of batteries but I ony use AA & AAA.
rexdare
19 Apr 17 2 #30
Eneloop batteries are excellent, originally made by Sanyo until Panasonic bought Sanyo and sold factory to Fujitsu. Panasonic re branded them. Most eneloop are now made in china, eneloop pro are still made in Japan. The original eneloop charger was also one of the best I have used, it was compact, multi voltage and reasonably fast for its time. Highly recommend eneloop
nosherfj
19 Apr 17 #31
been using AA and AAA latest Gen Panasonic Eneloop Pro's for a few years now along with a Powerex Maha C6000 battery charger for my Turtle Beach X42's. Got them for £10 from Maplins (currently there not but there bound to be in the future). The good thing about the Maha charger is you can sleect trickle charge of 200mAh and in so doing the batterys last longer as they don't get over heated during charge cycle.
dz1
19 Apr 17 #32
7dayshop do their own batteries with a higher capacity than eneloops and less than half the price. They also hold their charge for a long time, same as the eneloops:

https://www.7dayshop.com/products/7dayshop-good-to-go-aaa-hr03-pre-charged-long-life-rechargeable-batteries-850mah-4-pack-7dayaaagtg800
Orville
19 Apr 17 3 #33
Fujitsu purchased Sanyo's NimH battery business in 2009. Panasonic licensed the Eneloop brand from Sanyo, but Fujitsu manuifactures ALL Eneloop batteries. Some production has been moved to China but the perception is that Made in Japan cells are superior. In reality Eneloops made within Fujitsu's Japanese or Chinese plants are probably of equal quality.

All Pansonic beanded Eneloops and Fujitsu branded "Ready to Use" NimH are true "Eneloops". Amazon, Duracell and others have been known to sell rebranded Eneloops, but they do vary suppliers (not all are Eneloops). Eneloops and Fujitsu's are not the cheapest or highest-capacity NimH cells, but they are widely acknowledged as the best quality consumer rechargeable AA/AAA's that money can buy.

EDIT: I did a little research and found that in-testing, Chinese Eneloops are inferior to Japanese Eneloops. Best buy Fujitsu's (all are Japanese) or Eneloops made in Japan if you want them to last. See link below.
Chinese vs Japanese Eneloop test
bullet9t9
19 Apr 17 #34
Ordered these in AA for batter-power for slightly cheaper than this. But really good price for AAA heat added.
bringbring
19 Apr 17 #35
These are essentially legal tender on ozbargain
Harryisme
19 Apr 17 #36
Wouldn't the Fujitsu be a better option than the Eneloop? From what I've read, Panasonic bought Sanyo, however part of the deal, the factory that makes the eneloop would need to be sold on, so Panasonic don't have a monopoly, and the Fujitsu's are made in the same factory.

https://www.7dayshop.com/batteries-power-chargers/fujitsu-aaa-hr03-nimh-rechargeable-batteries-900mah-ready-to-use-extra-value-8-pack
got_the_feelin
19 Apr 17 #37
Stunning batteries, I still have a set of 4 Sanyo AA's. Had them 7 years, used almost daily and have been rotated in Xbox 360 controllers and an SLR. I've only recently noticed a major drop in performance, but they still hold charge!

As above, get a decent charger for these.
nougat
19 Apr 17 #38
I may have had a duff one but it didn't fully charge my batteries and they were dying after about 10 minutes in the xbox1 controller. 7day shop were ok though and gave me a refund and they didn't want it back. I thought "Result" but what do you do with a charger that doesn't work?
I brought this which I highly recommend. :smirk:
daskapital
19 Apr 17 #39
7 day shop has strange prices. It's cheaper to buy two packs of 4 than their offer with 2x4 packs.

They also have the same pro ones at £10.99 and the same again at £11.19 what is going on, they are the same batteries, the same capacity etc... very strange pricing.
Orville
19 Apr 17 #40
As per link below, it seems the only way to guarantee obtaining the best quality true-Eneloops is to buy the following:-
*Panasonic Eneloop marked as "Made in Japan"
*Fujitsu Ready to Use - all are Made in Japan Eneloops within different wrappers.

Panasonic Eneloops marked "Made in China" and Amazon Basics marked "Made in China" are inferior to Japanese cousins.

Japanese vs Chinese Eneloop test
JamesSmith
19 Apr 17 #41
You had a duff one.

The replacement charger you bought is identical, except for the price and branding.
nougat
20 Apr 17 #42
Sorry linked to the wrong one I bought the 5000
https://photos-5.dropbox.com/t/2/AABar7tYip_xlFPzztHLz2A3gHnPENYcwcYyScBNK9zM6g/12/402537033/jpeg/32x32/1/_/1/2/Youhiko.jpg/EIHY9psDGIk6IAIoAg/eTZOFp6AW_tmislSKxhIYyRCIjJJ_BD5PBJHyNt7shs?size=1280x960&size_mode=1
JamesSmith
20 Apr 17 #43
7dayshop now do their own branded version of the Youshiko 5000.

It looks to be identical just with different branding but considerably cheaper.

https://www.7dayshop.com/batteries-power-chargers/7dayshop-pro-series-intelligent-lcd-aa-aaa-nimh-and-18650-li-ion-battery-charger-multismart-3000
bullet9t9
22 Apr 17 #44
Can someone tell me which chargers I should get to charge these

Not sure if a cheap charger will affect the product. (Sorry if this is a daft question) thanks in advance
Newbold to bullet9t9
22 Apr 17 1 #45
Not at all a daft question - very few people take the trouble to buy a decent charger, and these batteries deserve it. One of these should suit you very well:

https://www.7dayshop.com/products/7dayshop-pro-series-intelligent-lcd-aa-aaa-nimh-and-18650-li-ion-battery-charger-multismart-3000-wh2-ds-225

https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Household-Batteries-Battery-Chargers/XTAR-VC4-Battery-Charger/B01D8464S6/

The XTAR may well be available more cheaply elsewhere, but the Multismart 3000 can only be obtained from 7DayShop - though there are similar ones (usually dearer).
TimJWL
24 Apr 17 #46
£5.49 less 5% for 4. Got them within 2 days with a complimentary mint lol. Same place that was posted the other day for the AA's, dealt with them before.
Free delivery over £10. Panasonic agent Battery Force and they are the proper Japanese ones
matlock67
25 Apr 17 #48
Just bought 8 AA Panasonic eneloops from battery force £11.39
tezray to matlock67
25 Apr 17 #49
Can't find them for that price can you link please
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