For that kind of money you could pay for a well known brand.. :sunglasses:

Unknown brand, probably Chinese. Get a Sony instead.

I think they were being sarcastic

I only check these threads for the same old comments! I am cracking up! What a classic.

I've had my 515 since 2012. Developed a problem in 2015 they picked it up, fixed it under warranty and sent it back in 2 weeks. been fine ever since. you can't get better than that if you ask me.

Unknown brand, probably Chinese. Get a Sony instead.

I paid £350 two weeks ago. :disappointed:

Dolby Vision coming too via a firmware update

same here richer sounds swapped mine for a similar spec Yamaha amp which has been superb.

I bought this model at Christmas when it was on offer for a lot more than this, been really pleased with it

I use it in conjunction with Monitor Audio bronze speakers and sub and the performance is outstanding, highly recommend and heat for a great price

Yeah I see what you mean.

I'm not saying that at all.

What I'm saying is that installing atmos is a lot of work, and it makes no sense to do it unless you're going "all in". I'm not saying 5.1 is pointless, I'm saying 5.1.2 is pointless, when there's 7.1 (which would give you a bigger improvement over 5.1 than 5.1.2). The logical upgrade path is 5.1 -> 7.1 -> 7.1.2.

It's not worth the effort (ceiling speakers are a big effort) going to atmos, if you're not going to max-out on your ear-level setup.

5.1.2 is still Atmos I don't see the problem. The Z810 supports this too from what I can tell and that's twice the cost. With Yamaha you're paying £1000 for 7.1.2
It's like saying 5.1 is pointless because there's 7.1

.2 atmos isn't what I was talking about.

What I mean is that if you're going to the trouble of installing height speakers - why not go for at least a 7.1 setup first (at ground level).

It just seems silly to me to go to the effort (and cost) of installing height (reflective or ceiling) speakers, but not bothering with surround backs.

The only reason these cheap receivers have atmos is so that they can call them atmos receivers. If you want the proper atmos experience, you need to spend at least double this.

Nah, not for me. Why would I buy a receiver from a company that makes yoghurts............

Would never buy an onkyo again my last onkyo was replaced five times with a failing hdmi board. Really poor quality kit

Coz in many domestic settings, 32 speakers wouldn't be feasible??

Can be usually found on the underwear section these days.

Loughboroguy never shows up on these comment sections any more :disappointed:

I think they were being sarcastic

Pointless getting an atmos receiver that only does 5.2.2 IMO. If you're going all out installing atmos, why skimp on the surrounds.

Very useful thread, thanks OP.
It's like honey pot for unfunny mongs that can then be put on 'ignore' easily.

Wanted one of these bad and had been watching the price and waiting for the magic £299 and then it gets there but no stock so ive lost out, am gutted. I fail to see where the deal is as it says none by online or phone or store.

Hook, line and kitchen sink...

For that kind of money you could pay for a well known brand.. :sunglasses:

I only check these threads for the same old comments! I am cracking up! What a classic.

Is it in Loughborough branch?

Are we allowed to mention yogurt?

Identical to the Pioneer VSX-1311 in a lot of ways. Same price.

Nice sofa