Get a grip. I was not trying to sell a deal i was asking a question for myself.
Sorry if i got your hopes up.

You can't compare a SIM free, no contract deal on a phone with a 2 year commitment on a contract phone, strip out the cost of the contract then say that phone is a better deal than this one. That's comparing apples with oranges...

Note that i have not posted it as a deal. I clearly said that is the value to me...In my own budgetary world. In other words if i want an edge 7 i can get one by paying £312 more over 2 years without compromising on my phone contract. Hope that makes sense.

Confused. Is this a Moto Z thread or an LG helpline......

Superstar! I've been looking for the last week as Amazon put up their price for just the phone without the speaker.

When you say 'You see the play version' - Moto Z Play?

I missed the Amazon.de deal on that and am after a good deal on that. The Z may have better specs in some areas but I want the bigger battery and 625 of the Play

Oops clicked send too soon - please if anyone can link to the Z Play cheap anywhere, appreciated. However also have heat for this deal, tis good

Excellent deal - just ordered for the wife. This will get scorching.

This or the galaxy 7 edge for £312?

I'm a fan of the Moto range, but I'm happy to compromise on battery to get more memory and a faster processor. Knowing I can get an add on battery pack helps. I prefer Moto for its cleaner Android experience without the bloatware associated with brands such as Samsung.

Without wishing to hijack this thread, that is its value to me.
I currently pay £17 a month on three unlimited data.
The deal i have gone for only last night iis one posted on hot uk deals at mobile phones direct and is £30 per month for the edge and on three's 30gb plan.
As i don't use 30gb each month then the difference is £13 per month TO ME. Which works out at £312 over 2 years to own the edge.
Scroll down to find the 30gb deal on three....
http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/contract-mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-32gb-black

Ordered. Thx OP.

You can't compare a SIM free, no contract deal on a phone with a 2 year commitment on a contract phone, strip out the cost of the contract then say that phone is a better deal than this one. That's comparing apples with oranges...

Thanks. If it was £312 for a new sim-free S7 Edge, I'd buy that right now.

Note that i have not posted it as a deal. I clearly said that is the value to me...In my own budgetary world. In other words if i want an edge 7 i can get one by paying £312 more over 2 years without compromising on my phone contract. Hope that makes sense.

You stated originally this or the S7 Edge for 312 quid? as if it you could buy the S7 Edge for 312 quid when you can't buy the phone for that sort of figure unless you commit to a legally binding 2 year phone contract which can't in any way be compared with this deal. It's disingenuous to do this.

Is this better than a LG G4? Paid 215£ for mine with the Vodafone deal almost a year and a half ago and still haven't found a worthy successor without spending 2 times as much

Two years contract is a hateful decision. Buy this phone and a 30 days contract for only 10-12 pound a month and you can be free like a bird. :wink: Good deal, my one is on way. :smiley:

Get a grip. I was not trying to sell a deal i was asking a question for myself.
Sorry if i got your hopes up.

Warning...No Headphone Socket (I think)


Had a very quick look at this in John Lewis, the speaker Mod is quite a chunky piece of work to me, not something I would carry about every day.

Anyhow, seems like a good price, so heat added.

Damn you HUKD, my Moto X Play is heading to ebay :sunglasses:

Great deal, was gutted I missed out on the offer when it was on motorola.com. My moto X 2nd gen is getting slow!

2600Mah battery life? I ll keep my LG G4 for the time being till I find a suitable replacement

£5 quidco too.

i am typing this on my Moto z, got it for the same price directly from Moto a few weeks a go with speaker. lovely slim phone. the speakers is a bit chunky which is why i will be putting it on eBay(get £40 for it then makes phone cheaper)

As someone has mentioned there is no headphone jack, you get a USB c to aux adaptor. which does the job nicely. really haven't been a problem for me so far. battery is small but I've never had it not last a day even with Bluetooth left on.

great phone, good price, heat added.

Now that's what I call a deal breaker.

For me the deal breaker is a 2600 mah battery.

Another person here struggling to find something to replace a G4 - camera is just too good.
It's my other half's G4, I'm delighted with my Xiaomi Mi Max :smiley:

Amazing phone and the JBL Mod just sounds amazing. :smiley: Hot!

FWIW i loved my LG G4 before it developed the bootloop problem. Tried a few phones but eventually settled on the Samsung S7. (currys ebay damaged box). Six months on and it's better then ever now it's got android 7 nougat. Cannot fault it. Couldn't live with the S7 Edge as i kept accidentally pressing the wrap around screen by accident. Is the S7 worth the significant extra cash over the Moto Z? Tricky one. The Moto Z deal is a very good one.

Thanks, but rather stick with a 5.5" screen, or possibly 5.7" - so watching the G6 with interest.
If Xiaomi could get their act together in the camera dept we'd be fine, but none of the 2nd division Chinese manufacturers seem to be able to make a good all round camera, usually it's low light that let them down.

for anyone whose already got one of these, do they overheat with daydream like the google pixel? and how much use do you get in VR with the small battery?

Can't believe this isn't hotter.....
Managed to get JL to price match after a lot of haggling as they say they do not sell it as a bundle like CPW are, only as single items...

Brilliant deal. Heat added. I previously posted this comment on the similar Lenovo deal a few weeks ago, but I think it may help some people who are getting one, so here it is again...

1) Car chargers - Motorola have their own fast charging tech called turbo charge. Binatone make a licenced Moto turbo charger for the car. But it's comparatively expensive. You can use any generic Qualcomm Quick Charge 2 or 3 device to charge the phone, but you won't get the turbo top up speed. I use a quick charge 3 charger and I can Navigate, Bluetooth and stream music with the screen always on and the phone stays at 100%.
2) This phone is almost bloatware free, so consider downloading the Android Auto or similar car mode app, for safer hands-free use.
3) For voice commands you can either use the standard "OK Google" or you can use a longer customised "moto" phrase, but not both. I find the moto one is more powerful as it works even if the phone is in standby. Allowing you to make a call or turn the flashlight on from across the room without manually waking the phone. However keeping the microphone always on does use about 1% of your daily battery. The custom moto phrase is enabled or disabled in the Moto app.
4) Due to the slight curve on the edges of the screen the glass screen protector I tried was comparatively small compared to the screen. I've ended up buying a cheaper film protector instead, which covers a bit more of the screen. I'm happy with this Nilikin one, but would be interested to hear about other people's experiences.
5) The battery life has been acceptable for me, I expected far worse after reading the reviews. The early reviews were done with Marshmallow, but I think the newly improved Android Doze feature in Nougat may have significantly improved the battery life.
6) Use the Moto app to learn the "Actions" short cuts. Some of them are useful, like the twist to start the camera.
7) When migrating your data from your old phone to a new phone, all of your Google contacts, most of your apps, and many "Google Play Games" progress will migrate across seamlessly without you needing to do anything. However there are specialist apps that work on non rooted phones like SMS Backup and Restore and or Helium that will bring across stuff that normally doesn't migrate well.

I'd like to hear of your tips for this phone.

The Nilkin screen protector says Pre Order as its not released?? Also, what case are you using?? Cheers.

All us LG G4 £200 buyers waiting not so patiently for a new phone with as a good a camera as the LG G4. If this had a better camera I would have bitten at £299 and sold the speaker on. Alas the camera is just OK on this.

This one, but I got it on eBay here. I'm sure other suppliers are available.

Those wanting a replacement for the LG G4 should wait a couple of weeks and get the LG G6.

Thanks, got one for the wife, missed out when the Motorola store was offering them.
Any difference between this 32GB and the 64GB version other than storage? Can't see anything obvious, and I can just add a microSD card anyway.

Should they start saving too. I thought the G6 was over twice the price of this.

Got my moto z play from the amazon.de deal delivered a couple of days ago. Great phone, the battery life it incredible. Camera is really good, much better than expected.

yeah i heard it won't be cheap but the spec looks almost as good as the S8 and will definitely be cheaper than that.

Bought it the last time with the deal direct from Moto. I couldn't be happier with the purchase.

I didn't bother with a case, in the box there is a herring bone "Style Shell" to protects the back of the phone and there is also a plastic bumper that protects the side. Leaving the screen open but protected (a bit) by the screen protector. When these get too tatty I will replace them with another "Style Shell" and this Incipio Bumper.

From the reviews of every case I looked at, buyers were complaining that the 3rd party cases had to be removed before you could attach a Moto Mod, even ones with the correct sized cutouts for the Moto Mods were too thick for the magnetic mods to attach correctly.

My LG G4 got the boot loop last week:(, was a great phone for £230. I was hoping for some Easter deals but they all seem crap, Moto G5 crap, this seems crap. I'm upset.

Just wish they would hurry up and drop the DayDream price so I could buy one for it.

#FireJBL

I think we were all spoiled with the LG G4, I rely on the camera and use it heavily daily. It's a nightmare that only £500+ phones have cameras in the same league. My G4 is tatty and would love to replace it, but my budget is roughly what I spent on the G4.

I had exactly the same issue. I loved my LG G4 until that happened. Hoping that this is going to be an adequate replacement.

For those that have LG G4 bootloop try calling LG to fix. I did and they replaced the motherboard for free and it was outside warranty.

Worth upgrading from a Moto G4?

LG has 2 years warranty. I just rang them and they changed the motherboard free of charge. Just make sure your warranty is still valid tho..

For some reason, the Vodafone 2015 Black Friday LG G4 deal only came with a one-year warranty?

i bought from vodafone too. but standard LG warranty is 2 years. you deal with LG directly

Thanks, I'll try my luck with tomorrow.

I'm thinking of sending my moto Z play back and getting this instead.

I bought from Fireworks Merchant via Flubit. Spoke to LG previously who couldn't validate my warranty and asked me to get back to the retailer. So I spoke to Fireworks Merchant and got no response after a while. Basically neither of them are taking responsibility so I got fed up of chasing (which is the wrong thing to do I know).

Shh.

The first comment could have been clearer, but the poster was very clear thereafter.

Tempted but worried about the battery life.
Can anyone confirm how good or bad it is?
I could get the play version but it's bigger and the camera sounds a bit iffy.
Thanks

​Gsmarena.com say it can't handle a day of normal use so you need to carry a charger, battery pack or buy the battery add on. It gets a fairly low endurance rating of 53 hours, one of the lowest scores I've seen on a recent phone.

Gsmarena review here

​Shockingly, mine got replaced/upgraded to an LG G5 but after 2 months!!!

​Call LG immediately. They will replace your phone to the LG G5

from what i have read on various sites the droid version had a small mah battery and high levels of bloatware that affected the battery. It was also marshmallow. Its nougat available now which increases the battery somewhat; most of the newer reviews i read said that they used it as average ie web/music few calls and end of day it had about 20% charge remaining.

my SO recently got this phone and the speaker for a cracking deal. he absolutely loves the phone, display is brilliant, its fast and responsive, and the sound from the JBL speaker is absolute BOMB
not gonna lie, even the sound from the one front facing speaker isnt too bad, although still comparatively worse than the two on the HTC one mini.

great deal. can recommend.

his battery keeps good charge, and tbh its not tht bad considering this phone has fast charge, menaing it recharges in absolutely no time, if youre in a pinch. just get a 5-10 pound extra battery from anker and youre sorted.

agreed, if you want the edge 7 then I would agree you got yourself a good deal. I have gone SIM only now for the last 8 years and change my phone every 18 months or so. I am on THREE paying £9 PM for unlimted mins/text but only 6gb, only need 6gb as I am stuck at home with a broken leg so data not an issue. I've just ordered the Moto Z after tooing and throwing over the LG G5 with battery mod at Argos for £349.99 opted for this. However, even though I have ordered it going to keep it sealed just in case another deal for the LG G5 pops up in the next couple of days as the G6 is about to be launched on the 20th.

Confused. Is this a Moto Z thread or an LG helpline......

Hi. How much haggling?
Messed up my CPW order so just filled the JL form. Did they do it in the end?
Thanks for your time
Rich

No haggling at all, put the items as a bundle and they agreed within 10 hrs. Towner softened them up :smiley:

Long Story - Short(ish) version.
Ordered from CPW quickly as missed out on the 2 last deals.
Realised I had a JL gift voucher so emailed them for a price match.
As JL take a while to reply, phoned my local branch to see if they had stock and reserved.
Went to local branch and their stock was wrong so only had phone, but they would price match and send the MOD on.
When putting through till, a problem occured as they said they couldnt price match as they didnt sell it as bundle......
Kicked up a fuss, off the man went to get advice from a manager. Eventually came back and put the phone through for £230 and the MOD for £69, MOD will be with me shortly. Also got free coffee and cake voucher :smirk:
Later that evening, JL emailed to say they would Price match through the normal pay full price and then refund.
Went to CPW today to collect the phone ordered from them and then return it, but it hadnt turned up anyway, have to wait till Tuesday to cancel that one!

Instore haggling only!! :smile:

If you can it makes sense for the price.

Thanks. Ordered full price after submitting the form. Will cancel if they won't do it

Cheers guys. Looking forwa
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Thanks again. Wish I hadn't dropped my phone but sounds like a bargain

Hi All,

Is it dual sim?

Thank you!

Thanks OP. Ordered yesterday and was hoping it would be in store today, sadly not, so will have to wait a few days to get my hands on it. Replacing a Wileyfox Swift which has been good but is struggling now. Watched a few reviews on you tube and despite battery comments on here, when comparing to S7 there was minimal difference.

Cheers OP.

if Google daydream worked without overheating I'd be all over this. Guess I'll be waiting for a bargain S7 edge. Have some heat anyway as the price is great! Btw, Motorola are bringing loads of new modules out this year for the phone, including an Amazon Alexa mod, as well as a Nintendo switch like gamepad module.

Taken a punt, concern on battery size, may miss the headphone jack, time will tell, but at this price worth the risk, replacing a moto x play, may buy power boost pack, had to order a load of USB C cables and converters for car work etc! May sell the speakers, bring price even lower, which means not much more than a moto g5 plus, this is a to deal for flagship phone.

Ordered, got a sealed 128gb iPhone 7, so now I need to decide which one to keep!

If this is so then i'm going to bite. Good to know if they are investing in the phone for longer than the 'now'. Thanks jiraiya

nice deal

Just phoned Carphone Warehouse to see where my order is, should be available in store for collection today but no confirmation received, and it looks like a lot of their stores are closed today.

mine is due for store collection on 18th...

Is the herringbone style shell included with the phone?

My s7 edge over heated with daydream as well after a hour or so i would say . Pixel xl has the worst overheating in daydream but you can use foil trick and or use a cool pad trick. I think all phones in daydream will overheat to a extent

is it worth upgrading from my LG G5 to this Moto?

Does the camera lens stick out as much as it looks?
It appears to have zero protection - surely it will get scratched or cracked fairly easily.
Has anyone got one and is it an issue?

Yes, and a surround bumper.

With the case on it sits flush. Hoping the 3rd party case i have ordered gives it some more protection.

Just a heads up I had a call from 020 3110 4988 claiming to be carphone warehouse wanting me to confirm my details for security purposes for my order. I didn't give them any and rang CPW back who told me their fraud dept doesn't ring people and they aren't working today (Easter Sunday). Operator didn't seem concerned that they had a security leak...

you sure it wasn't your bank calling? i had an automated call from amex after i ordered to ask if it was a genuine transaction

Nah it wasn't automated and they said they were from CPW. I said I'd call them back and when I did call the operator told me they weren't working today and that they didn't call only email or snail.

Do you mean Gear VR as opposed to Daydream? I wasn't aware Daydream worked with any phones other than Daydream certified phones of which there are only a few, I.e. Google Pixel, Moto Z, Zte Axon 7 etc... An hour's worth of VR on your s7 is actually pretty good by the way. Daydream phones apparently only last around 20 minutes, and your phone becomes too hot to touch!

strange!

Is it worth getting JL to price match for the 2 year guarantee?
How long is the guarantee for Carphone warehouse on this phone?

Even i had an automated call from my credit call dept to confirm the transaction :confused:

John Lewis in Chelmsford refused to price match for me

Mmmm, I had a small battle with Bristol store, but got there in the end. Just submit an online price match as they will do it.

Online just price matched. Do you think I can show them the email to buy I store rather then order and collect tomorrow?

I can confirm, if you submit an online form, they will price match the deal.

I ordered mine full price then submitted the form. Just had email confirmation of price match. So they will refund the he difference if i decide to keep it.

I submitted an online price match this morning but hadn't ordered it already. If they approve will just get a refund on CPW one.

I might be wrong, but just read the email again as I think it says you cannot use it instore. It would be up to the store to decide if they wanted to pricematch. Your PM email may encourage them too though.

Price match email received, ordered at full price and will then refund it to me. Going to get refund on CPW order and sent my iPhone 7 back - this is £260 cheaper!

John Lewis price matched but without the JBL speaker as it is a promotional deal. So perhaps the John Lewis deal is not that great even with 2 year warranty.

Thank you for your price match request for the Moto Z Smartphone, Android, 5.5", 4G LTE, SIM Free, 32GB, Black.

I have looked into your request and will be happy to match the price of £299.99 for the Moto Z Smartphone, Android, 5.5", 4G LTE, SIM Free, 32GB, Black (product code 83301122) seen at Carphone Warehouse.

As part of our never knowingly undersold policy, we only match the competitor on price and not promotions for free products or services. Therefore, I would not be able to offer the JBL Speaker for free with the phone.

I got -

Having looked into this I am happy to match the price of £299.99 for the Moto Z Smartphone, Android, 5.5", 4G LTE, SIM Free, 32GB, Black/Silver and Moto Mod JBL SoundBoost Speaker for Moto Z & Z Play Smartphones (product code 83301122 and 83320604) seen at Carphone Warehouse.


Did you put both product codes on the price match email?

Yeah that's a strange one?! Hmm will try and follow it up. Cheers tom_g thanks

Will be delivered tomorrow. Is it actually worth having?

check the threads from the previous two deals - people seem to think its great.

Buy the Sparin case for Moto Z. The lip around the case keeps the camera lens safe

Do you have a link please?

It's ok, got it at Amazon.

Sorry this was with a rooted s7 edge with some fiddling. The moto z temperature got to around 47 degrees C at max around 45 minutes to a hour of play too around 50% charge off the mobile. This includes downloading a few apps and playing with different apps and games. I hope this help those who want to use this phone with daydream.

Well my JL order just arrived can't decide to keep it or not. I think half the time the challenge is more important!

I can't really see a reason not to keep it at this price - nothing in the price range compares in terms of specs (from a big brand) - moto mods are pretty cool and it comes with one - 2 yr JL warranty - was considering Samsung S8 and Google Pixel but can't justify the additional cost for not much more of anything. I chose this instead of an iPhone 7 - if I don't like it then I will go back to iPhone in a year or so.

Just picked up mine. Cheers OP. Did anyone that did a pick up have to verbally give the security number on the back of the card to the shop assistant and then type in your pin number for a £0.00 amount?

Carphone have now added a timer, offer ends end of play Friday!

CPW still not got my order in from Friday... Glad i purchased from JL.

Just to add, i find the bumper that is supplied with it very slippy so will be glad when my 3rd party cases get here!

Phone delivered on time by CPW, first impressions, great phone for money, so thin!!!! likely to ebay the speakers as can't see me using them, tend to play music through my echo.

Needed quiet a few Secuirty updates and also updated to Android 7.0, before it was upto date.

Moto phones tend to be free of bloatware and as near Android experience as you can get outside buying a Google phone, but still load the Nova launcher which I like on my phoned due to customisation options.

Coming from a Moto X Play, my concern is going to be battery life, at the moment torn between the battery mod to boost capacity or fitting a ruggedised case, tend to go with the iBastion ones from Amazon.

Mine came yesterday and I fully concur on the multitude of security updates (bit of a pain in the ****) and the slippy bumper. I'm getting an Incipio Dual Pro case, adds to the phone heft but less chance of butter fingers me dropping it. I've also come from a Moto X Play and have concerns on the Battery, so far it seems to be performing well with the battery saving features of Nougat.

Anyone worked out how to remove the annoying Google search bar at the top??

Just got email regarding Price Match from John Lewis they will match price. Not too sure if go for JL or Carphone warehouse ! CPW ( phone order it's on its way to me ) . Any suggestions?

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/keyboard-mod-a-physical-keyboard-for-the-moto-z#/


New Keyboard Mode for $60 Yuppie

Up to you but I ordered my C and C from CPW on Saturday, still not in store. Since then, I requested a price match from JL, got it approved, ordered and collected the product the next day (2 days ago) and have had confirmation of the refund already.

What's about warranty policy JL doing 2 years and Not sure about CPW ?

Just 1 at CPW I believe

Wonder if I offer on Carphone warehouse ends John Lewis still well offer me Price match got 28 days to purchase before price match expires . Worried JL they won't honour it As phone In CPW won't be same price .

picked mine up from CW yesterday, really happy with it! nice upgrade from a Moto x (2014). also got the wife a 64GB iPhone se for £369. seemed like a good deal for that too.

Best case to protect the camera bump?

I don't think there's any doubt JL will honour your pricematch if you purchase within the 28 days. In the unlikely event they do just return the whole package for a refund. In my experience, JL's CS is is exemplary.

Mind you, someone's just had the last JBL Speaker from JL. :smirk:

The phone comes with the black herringbone 'Style Shell' which fits on the back covering the contacts and bringing the back out flush with the camera. See: Unboxing.You might want a shell over that. I'm looking for recommendations for a suitable cover for mine.

Decided to keep it. Wow it's thin! To be honest I prefer with the mod on. Don't feel like I'm going to snap it. JL processed my refund the day after delivery.(paid with PayPal)

Thanks to OP and everyone lse

Don't buy the Fuse Air Hybrid case as it gives no protection to the raised camera. I have this case and also the Sparin Moto Z case which is a good fit and also raised at the back to protect the camera. Anyone want to buy the Fuse case......

iPhone se 64gb perfect on o2 refresh £296 if you are ok with taking a contract, paying off phone and then cancelling.

Now back up to £479.99, so looks like I got a good deal. After a couple of days use battery life looks to be holding up, optermised apps for battery life in settings so this maybe helping. Slightly annoying 3 are offering the Lenovo P2 for £209, which was another phone I was interested in particular for its is 5100mAh battery, but lower spec than Moto Z on screen, camera and processor, so as long as small battery does not prove to give issues down the line will be happy for a while.

Very happy with the battery on this, not an issue at all.

Battery life is good-ish for me. Phone taken off charge 15 hours and 30 minutes ago, screen on time 2 hours 30 minutes including about 20 minutes of games and 10 minutes of youtube, about 1 hour of music - battery currently on 16% (screen brightness low most of the time)

Battery life is really impressive for me - especially considering I wasn't expecting a lot. It is easily matching my old S7 edge for my usage.

Wonder what you're doing differently to me haha, perhaps I am expecting too much but taking it off charge at 6am I need to put it on charge around 10pm with about 2-3 hours usage.

Did anyone get the Nillkin screen protector? Mine seems to have added an annoying Matt effect to the display. I did remove the two outer films. Also, the two holes at the bottom of the protector are also nowhere near the holes in the Z.

Anybody else have a sort of speaker rattle or distortion esp noticeable with the notification tones? less so with music from the speaker?

Agree, Nillkin screen protector does not align correctly. The 2 holes at the bottom align perfectly to the top holes though! Doesn't cover the edges of the screen either....

No, mine is fine.

For those that are interested in the mods Amazon have the camera mod reduced to £160, best price.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01KM1ZRT0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Mine is going back to JL for refund, think mine has a dodgy battery as the best I've had is 2 hr 30 min screen on time in a day

There are 2 (proximity?) sensors under the circular cutouts. You can see them clearly on the white phones, but they're not easy to spot on the black phones.