Is the soundbar any good?

Keep the soundbar and knock £250 off then I'm in :smile:

Seriously tempted by this having waited for prices dropping since the run up to Xmas. Came close to pulling the trigger on an E6 from John Lewis last week but not sure I can justify the extra cost for an integrated sound bar I'll not use and 3D which is nice but is it £500 quids worth of nice?

Think this is the cheapest its been with the sound bar thrown in given the 10% code though my memory seems to recall a very small window when this might have been available at roughly the same price back in January with another discount. Like the poster above mentions, would be great with no sound bar with the net value knocked off the purchase price as most of us looking to invest in these tv's already own superior sound bars/speakers but I just can't see it happening having tracked these prices for quite some time now.

A quick check on ebay suggests that £100 - £150 should be achievable for offloading the sound bar so this may be the best option.

With the new models filtering through though there is potential for further drops but my gut feel is they'll be pretty minor for the first few months whilst the new models sell at RRP prices considering the relatively minor improvements.

Only thing that worries me is the 12 month only warranty...

On the plus side though, you'll get a tenner voucher!

Covered for upto 6 years

http://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/regulation/consumer-rights-act

Claiming under this might not be as slick as a John Lewis guarantee, but don't let a manufacturers 1 year warranty put you off

This would make the 65 around £2520? That's a great deal.

It's not as straight forward as saying "Covered for 6 years", it's not that simple >

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2875453/The-six-year-warranty-right-shops-don-t-tell-customers-Law-says-retailers-responsible-dealing-complaints-official-guarantee-expires.html

They recently patched this to have lower gaming latency, it's still very high and I'd say if you're a gamer or using it as a Monitor then don't bother, I also think for tv it's not worth it. However if you're a movie buff then you cannot get a better tv for the price.

Just make sure you don't leave a still image On it, my Mum got one and every time I go round, there is so much burnt into the TVs that you notice when the image is all one colour.

Apparently it goes when you leave it off for awhile, but I dunno it bothers me.

Claiming might not be as slick?

That's an understatement.

If the retailer contests it, you will have to issue court proceedings against them. Most consumer breach of contract claims will be allocated to the small claims track, given the value, where only fixed costs are recoverable (therefore most people represent themselves).

If you're a lay person, with merely a Which? education on consumer rights law, good luck in trying to convince a court to rule in your favour when your 5.5 year old TV breaks down.

Would so love one of these tv's and think there amazing but after seeing the HDR screen on an s8 and then going to see a samsung HDR tv I'm all for the samsung.Reviews seem better and gaming refresh rate better but I still wouldn't turn my nose up at one of these simply breathtaking and a decent deal.

Court proceedings is an extreme scenario. I've never had to go to court - usually an engineer report is enough (the last one cost me £36 and the retailer refunded that and replaced the unit when the report found it had prematurely failed.) There's plenty of help available on consumer forums and it's not difficult to file a court claim IF it came to it.

Trying to claim under these regulations for a TV that broke after 5.5 years would be foolhardy, but no more than throwing a TV out if it broke after 13 months. My point is there are regulations to protect the consumer from faulty products for longer than the manufacturer's warranty. For me, if a £1500 TV broke within 4 years I'd be seeking some recompense, and there are tools available that allow average Joe to do this.

Same price instore?

I didn't - i said upto 6 years and included a link with plenty more information!

It is an issue, it goes away over time, but if you're displaying anything static... it sucks. For example my Mum likes to use the tv to stream the pic to, but the latency is too high for a mouse and it burns every icon into the tv. I notice it so much, but some people might not notice it as everyone is different. The Bloodborne logo is burnt into it as well and that has never gone away from when I played that game on the tv.

That's why I personally bought myself an LCD tv, the oled looks a lot better for movies as they tend to be dark and have black bars on the top and bottom. However if you're watching tv, there are no black bars and the quality is never great, it's not like watching a 4K blu-ray movie, where the oled excels.

I'm just not convinced of oled for a tv yet, I think that something else will come along before the issue are fixed. I'm going to guess local LCD dimming will come on so much in a couple years, that you won't be able to tell.

That's why I'd say buy this if you're a movie watcher, but anything else I wouldn't spend the money when LCD like what Samsung offer will give you a better experience apart from black levels.

excellent!! cheers!!

If you look at this thread from avforums the question of screen burn is raised and they state there is no problem now so I'm puzzled by your observation: https://www.avforums.com/threads/lg-b6-oled55b6v-uhd-4k-tv-review-comments.2057838/page-7
The other problem with edge lit LCD's which I personal hate is screen bright spots and uniformity - you don't get that with Oled that's why my next tv will be Oled - but hey everyone to their own.

Is there a link to the offer page where the 10% code for argos is listed for price match

Its not 'extreme'; it's just the last resort. You're quite right to say that a strongly worded letter and/or objective expert evidence often does the job, however. But not always.

Your original comment might have misled people in to thinking they had a cast iron 6 year warranty; glad it's cleared up now :smiley:

Hi how did you go about acquiring an engineer report please?

Can't see anything about a free soundbar on the Argos site, looks like it's no longer part of the offer. Dammit, was just about to buy too

Is 3d the main difference between the b6 and e6?

Cant see the free soundbar?

Well I've spent the last few hours trying to order this bleeding thing but no such luck. Problems started with my banks fraud protection team protecting me from placing an order. three phone calls later, I can now put an order through but the Argos stock allocation system does not know what is in stock and where! very frustrating! says its in stock, try to pay, lo and behold no stock. Try a different store. Same. 5 minutes later back in stock so rinse and repeat, same outcome.

Long and short of it I can't ruddy order one!

Come on Argos, take my money!!!

Well I've ordered this as it's the best price it's ever been and I don't want to miss out. So it's secured but I'm undecided.

I'm going to try and get Richard sounds to price match to get the 6 year warranty as it's a lot of money for only 12 months.

However, I'm torn between this and the dx902. I have a price match in JL for £1500 and it does 3D and has a better image but a restricted viewing angle.

I have submitted a price match request with John Lewis, we'll see what they say. I wonder if price matching includes the soundbar?

I've ordered this too, wasn't obvious how to get the soundbar offer but got there in the end thanks to Andboy's helpful reply, cheers for that mate. I wonder if the soundbar is worth keeping or if I'm best selling it? I have it secured at least, now I'll see what John Lewis come back with regarding a price match as the 12 month warranty does concern me a little as I've heard that the blue pixels can become exhausted after a while and the colours look strange. Having said that, I've also heard that newer OLEDs have a much longer lifespan and that this is not as much of an issue for the likes of these sets so who knows!

Thanks good to know

If I can't get an extended warranty then it's a lot of money if 2 years down the line it fails. Let me know about the JL price match...expect the same response as RS

the much vaunted oled

this a top end version or just one of the first

Just bought from Curries yesterday will they reduce price to match Argos?

Are they not funny about price matching against a voucher price?

[edit] Seems not!
Voucher-match terms and conditions

We’ll match voucher offers offered by AO.com, Argos, Asda, John Lewis or Tesco with equal savings when you buy the item from us

Ooooooo - just outside of the Sky Q offer. Darn it!

Finally ordered this evening via click and collect and picked up before store closed. Voucher code doesn't work in store but the store manager was very accommodating and honoured the 10% off which he added manually.

Reply received from John Lewis re pricematch:

Thank you for your enquiry.

In order to apply a price reduction on a purchase, the criteria in our pricing policy must be met. I regret that after review the request you have submitted does not match all or parts of this policy.

In accordance with the Never Knowingly Undersold policy:

‘We do consider temporarily discounted prices, including any publicly available voucher codes that are published alongside the product at the point of purchase, or on the competitor’s website. We don’t consider special prices that are only available to certain customers, for instance negotiated prices or prices for groups such as account holders, reward card or club members. We don’t consider prices that are only available through third-party websites, or with voucher codes issued to individual customers or groups.’

As the voucher code ‘TVSAVE’ that reduces the first quoted price from £1,699.00 to £1,529.10 is not published on the competitor’s website, we unfortunately cannot take this into account. Therefore, we regrettably cannot match the price of £1,529.10 in this instance. If you would like to read more on our Never Knowingly Undersold Policy, you can do so by clicking on the following link: https://www.johnlewis.com/inspiration-and-advice/never-knowingly-undersold-policy.

I apologise we have not been able to process a price reduction on this occasion. If you require any further assistance do not hesitate to contact me.

Yours sincerely,

Kane
JohnLewis.com

Good try matey. I think I'm going to cancel mine. I might pop into RS tomorrow and see if manager will do a deal for this price but don't fancy my chances.

Not surprised this seems to be the norm now with JL makes joke of their motto never knowingly undersold! As a side issue has anybody been able to get Curry's to match Argos as they would have a five year G/T ?

If you're spending this much on a TV, why would you need a sound bar when surely you'd be attaching the TV to a 5.1 or 7.1 sound system?! Still, it's good to see that large OLED TVs are slowly moving to the "magic" 1,000 pounds price point, at which point I might finally consider replacing my Panasonic 50" plasma...

The chipset is actually inferior in the e6 to b6 don't believe me check avforums

I'll have half a dozen then

do you have a link? what I've read the e6 is the superior tv

The sound bar offer ended few days ago

X2

Seems like Currys should price match according to their wording:

"Voucher-match terms and conditions

We’ll match voucher offers offered by AO.com, Argos, Asda, John Lewis or Tesco with equal savings when you buy the item from us."

I'm not sure if this will work but I've reserved the TV and soundbar at my local Currys and will collect tomorrow providing they honour the price match. The 5 year guarantee on the TV is too great an opportunity to pass over. The soundbar comes with a 2 year guarantee from Currys as well. Fingers crossed!

I got curry's to price match but they won't offer me the sound bar with it at that price.

I got John Lewis to offer me a sound bar with it at 1699 but still waiting to see if they'll match 10% off with sound bar included but I doubt it.

It sounds like I have a choice then between the free soundbar through Argos or the 5 year guarantee through Currys. Not sure how good the soundbar is tbh, does anybody have any advice as to which is the better option?

Warranty, lg panels don't have greatest rep

I've just had Currys price match this as I bought this last Wednesday. I didn't try to quibble about the sound bar as I don't want it (or the hassle of selling it on), but I still have my 5 year guarantee, which I prefer anyway.

Took it down to the £1529.10 (on top of the £11.80 through Quidco).

For what it's worth, been playing on PS4 & PC through it and not even really noticed any input lag. Tried Horizon Zero Dawn, Fifa 17, Rocket League, Spelunky and Crypt of the NecroDancer. The last is a rhythm game which I was able to play fine without any audio/video lag adjustments like there were in things like Rock Band.

Is the 5 year guarantee at currys with them or the manufacturer ?

I got the ev6 last week! The sound bar is really good. Brilliant tv!

I asked at my local Currys and the manager said he'd match the sound bar, but because the deal "TVSAVE" isn't advertised anywhere on Argos site he said that "the code on HotUKDeals" (I'd not mentioned it!) was a glitch on Argos site and not valid.
I cannot find this code advertised, so I have to go with that judgement.

Bum.

I got Currys to price match this without the soundbar instore (Bromborough) but it was a struggle. They refused at first as it says delivery only on the Argos site (not sure why that matters, something about it coming from the manufacturer and not from Argos). I told them I'd already purchased it from my local Argos and that I was on my way to collect it unless they could match the deal. After about 20 minutes of them calling head office they agreed to match without the soundbar but with the 5 year warranty which I agreed to. So happy I did that now, I have it set up and it's stunning!

I think this only applies to non-HDR mode...my understanding is HDR mode is still 50/60 ms

wrong. 4k @ 60Hz + HDR = 28.5ms. look it up

I just went to view this set in currys and I went out undecided between this and the Sony 55XE9005 which I knew nothing about beforehand. I played several demos of hdr, 1080p and 4k on both sets side by side. For the majority I felt the Sony had the edge including in hdr. I'm no expert maybe it was the store setup /lighting? but I went in really wanting the oled. Any experts have a view on which is better and why?

Nope, the latest update which brings 'HDR game mode' is 28ms dead same for none HDR game mode and I know as I'm part of the avforums on b6 and I own this TV. Check ratings link here http://uk.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/b6

Depends what you will spend your time watching but I would be tempted to avoid the demos and trr to watch a broadcast signal as well as a few DVDs. I would have expected the LG to outshine the Sony in darker scenes and would expect the LG to have more life like colours in daylight scenes.

Whats the image retention like when using it for gaming ( static things on the screen like life bars etc.) Im torn between this and the samsung so many good points for both

Image retention is can be an issue however the TV has its own screen clearing software. Play games with no HUD :smiley:

I'd be using it for gaming more than anything else so not always an option to have no hud ( as a lot of games have static stuff on the screen ) think i may end up going for the samsung. But I love the picture i've seen on the oled tv's, theres no doubt they are very impressive

I've got both, the KS7000 is a great TV to game on imo, providing your playing face on. Can't beat Oled for dark room viewing/gaming.

Im looking at either this or the 65 ks8000, very torn between the 2 as like you say they are both great tv's always thought the lg oled had the edge on picture quality tho

Wouldn't you be better of going for a pc monitor then rather than a tv?

No I want a tv, I will be using for tv and movies as well but my choice will be mainly based on which is the better option for gaming

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I had the KS7000 and 8000 side by side with a friend who works for richer sounds - there's not a noticeable difference between the two, not enough to justify the extra £. Only thing to consider between those two is the stand, the 7000 has feet at the edges rather than central so you need a wide Tv unit (unless wall mounting it's something worth considering).

Get a 7000 from with a warranty, you'll love it but we both know you'll always be thinking of Oled :smiley:

Don't worry about the extra ms on input lag between the Samsung and LG, unless your a truly competitive gamer, you won't care.

Sitting in front of the TV, wanting bang for buck - Samsung and have some spare change to pick up a pair of Sennheiser game zeros or ones :smiley:

Sitting at an angle, or might watch dark scene movies with people sat in the same room at difo angles. - Oled.

I'm an owner of a 55" KS7000 I've had since just before xmas. I have to say for motion blur , judder and ghosting it's the worst set I've ever had. I've always had Samsung LCD and led tvs. I'm normally used to a 40" screen so I'm not sure I can notice more because of the size. the other thing is the brightness. I can't stand the backlight on anymore than 3. if I put it up to 20 it feels like my eye sockets are going to burn out lol. backlight set at 20 for PS4 pro hdr gaming is OK but for TV content ie SD and HD the brightness is just blinding. I've been so dissapointed with the KS7000 I've currently got it up for sale. in the meantime I've bought an LG e6.maby I'm too sensitive to led technology so I've decided on oled. I'm yet to set it up as I came away on holiday the day it arrived. I'll be setting it up tomorrow when home. just hope it's allot better than the Samsung. with the oled creating the light organically as such I'm hoping it's an allot more pleasant experience

Do get back and tell what you think. I am with you- I looked at the 7000 and found it too bright and washed out compared to Oled

Certainly will do mate. Can't wait to set it up. Knew nothing really about tvs till I started researching a good TV to go with my PS4 pro. The KS7000 looked to fit the bill perfectly and does look very nice in 4k hdr. But now after the issues I'm experiencing with it and the more I read online about it I tend to notice them straight away. I'm just fed up messing around with the settings every time I watch it. Just hope oled is the answer

Has anyone tried to see if Richer Sounds will price match? If not
what's there best price on this tv?

Curries response :/ had to call them 3 times and send them an email cause they could not find the deal. Wasted a lot of my time!!!! :disappointed:

Dear Mr Boyd,

Thank you for your email dated 15th April 2017. I would like to have discussed this further over the telephone, however, there was no response on the number we hold for you.

I note your request for a price match for your television. Our terms and conditions state that the price match cannot be used with any other offer. Our records show that you had a £100.00 discount when placing your order. We are therefore unable to offer a further discount.

Although this may not be the outcome for which you were hoping, I trust that this response clearly explains our position on this matter.

Thank you for taking the time to contact us and please accept my apologies that I was unable to assist you on this occasion.

Kind regards,

Looks like Argos is the only option! It says the sound bar is out of stock on the Argos website when I add the deal! Does that mean the offer has expired? Or will they send me one when they get more stock?

I have both. KS is good for the money doesn't compare to the Oled and I'd recommend getting the best picture settings from AVforums. Only time I've ever had issues with judder and motion blur is playing a PS4 which are capped 30fps

Thanks hairray for info can I ask what's the sound like on the Oled with internal speakers?

Has this deal stopped now? Couldn't find it on argos website.

Yes the sound bar offer has finished

No easter present for me then.

Got Currys to price match this today and bought it, really pleased with it even though the only 4K HDR content i have atm is some Amazon Prime TV shows until the PS4 Pro arrives tomorrow.

I called the main Currys number but no luck as they couldn't see the code on the Argos site. So i did reserve and collect, when i got to the store showed the LG rep on my phone the process of ordering from Argos and applying the code, he showed the manager who ok'd it straight away.

Thanks Discoman and the others that mentioned their experiences with Currys.

Did you get a free sound bar with it?

setup the e6 yesterday. all I can say is wow. it's much easier on the eye than my KS7000. the Samsung does show more detail in 4K hdr due to the extra brightness but at the cost of a washed out picture. I'm dissapointed the e6 screen is just stuck onto the glass though. I was hoping it was integrated. never mind. that's me not buying tvs for at least a good few years now I hope as I'm now skint lol. I've decided on keeping the KS7000 also. I'll mainly use it for gaming as the extra brightness does help the hdr pop more with the extra detail I must admit

Unfortunately not, the 5 year warranty was my priority. When i have the spare cash i'll look into a separate sound system. I bought my last surround sound system 15 years ago so a bit out of the loop. Are soundbars the way to go?

The only problem I have found with sound bars is that they do not have the dedicated centre speaker you find in 5.1 surround sound so when playing blur-ray etc you can't hear dialogue very well. Not sure if there is a sound bar that has this feature perhaps someone can comment on this?

TVSAVE giving "This code has expired"

Nice. Just bought the 65" B6V for £2,429 using the TV10 code down from £2,699

That code has expired. Only TV related code I'm aware of is the £100 for over £1499.

TV10 was active as of a couple of hours ago when I bought the TV: -

http://tinypic.com/r/15s3k80/9

looks good

Love these deals, was on at John Lewis as well, not that i wanted the tv, but meant i could pick up a brand new sh7 soundbar for £130 on gumtree with the JL warranty included.... works very well paired with my echo dot :smiley:

I am awaiting the 55 inch LG with the free SH7 soundbar, still to be delivered due to the couriers fire in Worcester! But I believe that I am only being sent one parcel. Can anyone please confirm whether the soundbar in the bundle comes in a separate box? Thanks.