​What's yogurt got to do with it?

I suppose you are the sort of person that buys latest cameras via the megapixel count.

Is this conversation going full circle? What more do you not seem to understand.

This is the latest tech, it is the usual big box shifters annual 'upgrade' from last years model, this Yamaha entry level model still is 5.1, even some mid range receivers that are 7.1 are not Dolby Atmos/DTS:X compatible, last years Sony's midrange £500 STR-DN1070 was not. The upgrade to this model the RX-V481 is still 5.1 yet has more features including DLNA FLAC streaming that this does not have...it is about giving consumers choice at differing price brackets, not everyone has a need or want for what you consider 'future proofing'.

To answer your question in relation to myself, no I do not 'need' all the current features, although within the price range of my receiver Pioneer do support DTS:X and Dolby Atmos as standards....but considering I intend (as I have done historically) a receiver for around 5 years this to me is not a problem or an issue, if my receiver borks in its 5 years Richer Sounds warranty and they replaced it with the latest model it would not make one iota of difference, I would not be utilising those codecs...

Firstly I do not have a 4K blu ray player, secondly I do not own or wish to own a 4K LCD TV..nothing has changed from the 1080p days...the resolution may be upped but the display still has to attempt to emulate deep blacks by zonal backlight switching at best which still cause blooming or at worst edge lit which causes edge of screen bleed.

Whilst 4K content is either horrendously compressed in broadcast mode and does not support even Dolby True HD (Dolby Digital 5.1 at most), and whilst the sparse array of true 4K content released on physical disc remains ridiculously expensive along with the cost of OLED I have no plans to want to change. As previously stated I am more than happy with a 5.1 setup in my size lounge, and more than happy with Dolby True HD/DTS Master Audio on current Blu Ray discs on the best technology television I can currently afford, I actually bought my plasma at the death of the format in knowledge that I wanted the best screen for my money going forward whilst awaiting the true successor to drop.

I am not ready for 4K yet, and that suits me fine, seems little in the industry currently is either...and when I am good and ready I will be happy that my current setup has given me years of quality viewing/audio pleasure. Unless I can see ourselves moving into a larger house even with a future possibility of owning an OLED then regardless Dolby Atmos or DTS:X would still not feature.

Nobody is at a disadvantage here in the world of AV Receivers, you pay your money and make your choice according to budget and features/sound quality you want. I wanted a receiver that played FLAC over my network, I wanted it to have a decent DAC, I wanted it to sound as good with music as it does home cinema, I wanted it to have at least 6 HDMI inputs and I wanted a 7.1 receiver to bi amp. The VSX-924 I have ticks all those boxes just fine, and two years later so does the replacement VSX-1131 with two codecs I still would not be utilising.

Why are you forcing your standards on everyone else?

Some people just want to replace the TV's speakers, and this is a good price to do that, unless your watching 4K Blurays, then you wont be getting much more than Dolby Digital 5.1 from any source.

if you have a budget then this amp if fine.

No ATMOS or DTS:X.

Well spotted

No Onkyo.

Looks like a sofa. Haven't read that in a while.

But still what? You can just get upward firing speakers, as you said?

It's even 249 at Richer Sounds!

How much is the postage?

Only 1 left!

Good deal.

Is this an upgrade to my denon 1909?

Not an Onkyo

Not an Onkyo

What the hell is DTX:1??
Why would you buy a new amp without the latest tech? Suppose you would recommend a 1080P TV too.

Good deal, shame it doesn't have enough HDMI's compared to my current "sofa"

I suppose you are the sort of person that buys latest cameras via the megapixel count.

Still rocking the RXV 377, good amps. Use mine with some Tannoy floorstanders & centre, with some old Wharfedale diamond 9.1s as rears, and it can wake the dead.

Nope. I find my 5D Mk2, quite sufficient.

Then you should understand that like with cameras whereby it is lens/sensor quality that is more important than pixel count it is the same with TVs, give me a decent 1080p Plasma over a LCD/LED 4K tv any day. And likewise why does anyone need/want to buy into Atmos/DTS:X to 'futureproof'?, not many budget end receivers have such tech, and still a good number of mid range receivers.

I am more than happy with my 2 year old receiver that does not have Atmos or DTS:X, and quite happy until the ridiculous price of OLED comes down and the market of proper 4K material is out than downgrading from plasma to a crappy budget 4K LCD/LCD set.

So to answer, why not have the latest tech...check your own reasonings with cameras, and try to apply it to other areas.

Can you link one with latest tech for this price?

:laughing:

I bought the mk2 when it came out, so it was cutting edge at the time. If I was buying new now I would get the mk4, since I like the 5D, so not really comparable.

If you was to buy a new amp today would you not want all the current features?

Oh gawd, you one of those Plasma zealots :smile: Let me guess, Pioneer Kuro?

But still, the cheapest upfiring speakers cost more than this amp, if your in a position where you think it's worth paying that much for up firerers then you'd probably be looking at a better amp anyway.

Since when?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Onkyo-SKH-410-Skh410-Atmos-Speakers/dp/B00O8LANJA

And can usually be found cheaper when in stock on other Amazon regions.

Since last time I looked when I was in the market for a pair, they seem to have reduced in cost now.
Like I initially said though no Atmos is not an issue, like someone else has said this is a 5.1 amp so you wouldnt get Atmos or DTS:X

Why are you forcing your standards on everyone else?

Some people just want to replace the TV's speakers, and this is a good price to do that, unless your watching 4K Blurays, then you wont be getting much more than Dolby Digital 5.1 from any source.

if you have a budget then this amp if fine.

Probably DD True HD or DTS Master. More standards.

Unknown brand - get a Kawasaki

-not my standards, the industries.
-If you are replacing the 'TV speakers' will you not need speakers as well?
-multiple sources cater for newer standards, PS4, Xbox One, VUDU streaming, http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=248132

You are mistaken. No 5.1 receiver has Atmos or DTS:X.

cross us plasma zealots at your peril, mine is an LG :stuck_out_tongue:

Is this conversation going full circle? What more do you not seem to understand.

This is the latest tech, it is the usual big box shifters annual 'upgrade' from last years model, this Yamaha entry level model still is 5.1, even some mid range receivers that are 7.1 are not Dolby Atmos/DTS:X compatible, last years Sony's midrange £500 STR-DN1070 was not. The upgrade to this model the RX-V481 is still 5.1 yet has more features including DLNA FLAC streaming that this does not have...it is about giving consumers choice at differing price brackets, not everyone has a need or want for what you consider 'future proofing'.

To answer your question in relation to myself, no I do not 'need' all the current features, although within the price range of my receiver Pioneer do support DTS:X and Dolby Atmos as standards....but considering I intend (as I have done historically) a receiver for around 5 years this to me is not a problem or an issue, if my receiver borks in its 5 years Richer Sounds warranty and they replaced it with the latest model it would not make one iota of difference, I would not be utilising those codecs...

Firstly I do not have a 4K blu ray player, secondly I do not own or wish to own a 4K LCD TV..nothing has changed from the 1080p days...the resolution may be upped but the display still has to attempt to emulate deep blacks by zonal backlight switching at best which still cause blooming or at worst edge lit which causes edge of screen bleed.

Whilst 4K content is either horrendously compressed in broadcast mode and does not support even Dolby True HD (Dolby Digital 5.1 at most), and whilst the sparse array of true 4K content released on physical disc remains ridiculously expensive along with the cost of OLED I have no plans to want to change. As previously stated I am more than happy with a 5.1 setup in my size lounge, and more than happy with Dolby True HD/DTS Master Audio on current Blu Ray discs on the best technology television I can currently afford, I actually bought my plasma at the death of the format in knowledge that I wanted the best screen for my money going forward whilst awaiting the true successor to drop.

I am not ready for 4K yet, and that suits me fine, seems little in the industry currently is either...and when I am good and ready I will be happy that my current setup has given me years of quality viewing/audio pleasure. Unless I can see ourselves moving into a larger house even with a future possibility of owning an OLED then regardless Dolby Atmos or DTS:X would still not feature.

Nobody is at a disadvantage here in the world of AV Receivers, you pay your money and make your choice according to budget and features/sound quality you want. I wanted a receiver that played FLAC over my network, I wanted it to have a decent DAC, I wanted it to sound as good with music as it does home cinema, I wanted it to have at least 6 HDMI inputs and I wanted a 7.1 receiver to bi amp. The VSX-924 I have ticks all those boxes just fine, and two years later so does the replacement VSX-1131 with two codecs I still would not be utilising.

The VSX-1131 is at a great price at the moment. Worth spending the extra in my honest opinion over this. But then you're stuck in the never ending "pay a bit more for a bit extra"... :smile:

Very true, Pioneer have some really nice DACs in their equipment, but it still is £149 more than this. Would make far more sense spending the extra £50 over the step up model of this in the RX-V481, but for anyone simply after a budget no frills 5.1 receiver this is not a bad price.

For anyone after a mid range 7.1 receiver it is always worth waiting from around now through the early summer months is when you start seeing prices between £250-£299 as they are dropping their current line for the next iteration.

Mine too, 12yo (proper) Hitachi still in daily use though I bought a new plasma while I still could to last until OLED became a more viable option.
Maybe in 5 years we'll have some 4K content and I will consider that too. :wink:

I didnt mean standards as in industry standards, I meant your own personal standard requirements.
But really your arguing over someone else buying something, not sure why that bothers you, because no one is forcing you to buy it.

I bought the last of the LG plasmas with 5 years warranty from JL, has already given 2 years of viewing pleasure after the initial 50-100 hours burn in. Whenever I am watching content now on an LCD, whether it be a full HD or Ultra HD set my eyes are always drawn to the areas of blooming, yellowing whites, and lack of natural colouring that plasma sets give.

Whilst interested in what tech lies in advances in quantum dot technology, LCD will still always be LCD a battle of technologies lying behind the screen layer trying to emulate what plasma or OLED can achieve.

Simple, not everyone has the same requirements. If that were so manufacturers wouldn't go to the expense of multiple models of anything. They'd simply sell one with every feature they could muster.

So to the point at hand..... the RX-V381, good feature set, well reviewed, and under the average selling price.....hot.

Is this sold out or is there a specific way to order it?

​Don't mess with the occult. :confused:

Just replaced an RX-V373 with an RX-V481 (needed to for HDR content). I have got to say Yamaha make some really great sounding amps. I love the sound of all the formats I play through their receivers. Bloke in richer said if you aren't too bothered about all the little extras like internet features, and just want great sounding AV equipment, for the money Yamaha are leading the way.

Sometimes I would prefer not to notice LCD issues though I can't help it. :smiley: While I like to save money /electricity, I am happy to use inefficient plasma. As I live up north, the additional heat is rarely wasted. :smiley:

love the typical jokes in these threads, it's always the same audiophile crowd that seem to check these kind of posts

Corrected :innocent:

i own the 781. fantastic sound. been really impressed. depends on if you need the power and better features, etc

And u forgot dr. Dre with Bush

Looked at this a few weeks ago but ended up going for the Marantz nr1506. I love it, did cost £70 quid more though from RS. Worth considering.

Asthically I don't see why these boxes have to be so big! The Marantz is nice and slim, also plays my flacs directly from my Logitech Media Server so I sold my squeezebox kit.

Amazon now same price on this item in black