Originally posted @ £21.64: ***PRICE HAS NOW GONE UP TO £24.41***
I recently bought two of these from a recommendation off this very website and would like to promote them once more because they are simply fantastic.
The app is in Chinese (some bits are translated to English), but is very easy to work. The 1080p wide angle lens is similar to that found in a dashcam if any of you have one.
These are be powered by micro usb, so can be used anywhere - even using a portable power supply (usb powerbank).
If you have pesky pets or a child you'd like to keep your eye on in real-time whilst in another room, then these are perfect and at under £25 they're an absolute steal.
Top comments
djames108 to sie1984
22 Mar 177#5
mains USB charger....... :stuck_out_tongue:
mk-donald
22 Mar 174#33
Just some random observations as had one of these for a couple of months, and I stand to be corrected on them:
Mi Home is the Android app that integrates it with other Mi Smart Gateway/Yeelights etc.
Camera works on regular g WiFi 2.4
Needs an external power supply fed to it thru its microUSB port ie 5V allegedly 1A from memory but I use an old mains rated 0.5A one.
As has been mentioned the app's controls/menus are only partially and poorly translated so haven't deduced yet fully how to exploit/understand it fully.
The Motion alarm with auto video recording only records for 15 seconds to local SD
The motion detection is unsophisticated and eg picks up passing headlights here so not usable for alerts.
Time Lapse works to local SD card
Low light viewing (no light!) via built in InfraRed good
The Mi Home app works locally and remotely to look at live over WiFi and over eg Vodafone 3G/4G but isn't always 100% reliable, especially if I've used the 'off' button to turn the camera off between remote monitoring.
The app can also "pull" ie download a snap/video file from the camera SD to the app for viewing, but playback control is pretty limited - and it's SLOW at that from the limited trials I've done
The Mi Home app itself keeps getting updated - and will update the camera firmware too - and keeps getting better & "more english" but it isn't flawless - eg has a bug that keeps randomly requiring a re-log-in and sometimes won't move from id to password field on first update (and briefly had a crash bug that wouldn't allow the Mi Smart Gateway to add devices through the software - you had to do it manually using the button on top of the Gateway)
It looks as if there is a HACK site where (trustable?) people have updated the firmware to make it far more capable, and that's a topic I intend to look into.
Conclusion : to get into the WiFi camera with remote viewing capabilities it's a cheap entry-level that will help you find out what features you want/need/value.
All comments (43)
teerex
22 Mar 171#1
I've heard these can be difficult to set up? OP, what's your experience of this?
tek-monkey
22 Mar 17#2
Also interested in these, I'd prefer to run a few through some desktop software if possible.
sefgrt123 to tek-monkey
22 Mar 17#12
Yeah i've google'd it and there are ways, but nothing I'm clued up enough to work out haha.
sie1984
22 Mar 17#3
Is there an option to run from mains as opposed to USB
djames108 to sie1984
22 Mar 177#5
mains USB charger....... :stuck_out_tongue:
sefgrt123 to sie1984
22 Mar 17#11
Just via a usb plug (which is supplied), like an iPhone.
rafe17
22 Mar 17#4
Can you record the video feed to your phone via the app or does it just record to the micro SD card?
sefgrt123 to rafe17
22 Mar 171#10
Yeah you need an SD Card, but once in you can record and download to your phone/tablet.
shinds
22 Mar 172#6
They don't do a proper English version of this?
sefgrt123 to shinds
22 Mar 17#9
The camera is pretty self explanatory, but the App is not fully translated. They're getting there though as more is now in English than when I first downloaded the app.
naeembashir
22 Mar 17#7
can you download the app onto a samsung or lg smart tv?
sefgrt123 to naeembashir
22 Mar 171#8
If full android play store then shouldn't be an issue.
pete1993
22 Mar 17#13
Curious about these as well. You talk about this being useful for keeping an eye on pets or kids in another room real-time - is it possible to do that remotely as well, if you're not connected to the same WIFI network?
sefgrt123 to pete1993
22 Mar 17#14
Yes - however if you're on EE 3G/4G the app doesn't work (i've not contacted them yet to ask why). But my other half is on o2 3G/4G and the app works remotely perfectly fine for her. Haven't tested other networks though.
PointDex
22 Mar 17#15
It's OK, but not very clear when things moves
sefgrt123 to PointDex
22 Mar 171#16
It's not broadcast quality, no, but it is most definitely watchable. Motion is smooth for me and clarity not an issue :smiley:
alien
22 Mar 17#17
think I will go for this, thanks
gnans
22 Mar 17#18
Trying to know more before I read it all myself.
# Does this provide motion sensed alert?
# Works with low light?
# Capable of connection to a router which has 2.4 & 5 GHz ?
Thanks
teerex
22 Mar 17#19
That's strange. Does it do alerts when it picks up motion though?
spammy
22 Mar 171#20
These arent "proper" ip cams right? As in onvif?
sefgrt123 to spammy
22 Mar 17#23
not sure what onvif is sorry :disappointed:
welshblob to spammy
22 Mar 172#25
Correct, they are not onvif out of the box although there are some hacking attempts going on which provide rtsp streams at least and remove the dependency on the cloud app for those that want things ringfenced to their local network. https://github.com/fritz-smh/yi-hack/issues/118 https://github.com/samtap/fang-hacks
They aren't perfect even with the hacks e.g. no motion detection with the hack, but its still being worked on.
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spammy
22 Mar 17#27
This is brilliant and now makes these very compelling. Thanks for the tips.
spammy
22 Mar 17#28
There's a banner that says there's a sale in 7 days - $21 odd then.
Magnets
22 Mar 17#29
I wouldn't bank on getting that price, they'll probably only sell 10 units at that price or set it out of stock. These are always around £20 give or take a few quid so you could wait and see
welshblob
22 Mar 17#30
It is very good but remember the community support is not guaranteed although there appears to have been more people becoming involved recently as more people buy these cameras. I have one already and hopefully picking up another two from the post office tonight. I hope at some point I can get the motion detection stuff working locally to dump it off to the sd card which I will then sync to a central Raspberry Pi and I can then decide whether to upload it to the cloud or whatever.
spammy
22 Mar 17#31
I wanted some cheap cameras to interface with an existing ONVIF system - all the motion detection and storage is handed off to that central location so I just needed streams. I was about to punt on a Pi Zero wireless, but this works out much more cost effective if the streams are as accessible as the github implies.
welshblob to spammy
22 Mar 17#32
Yeah there are people plugging them into their central servers and I've found the wifi on these to be pretty good as well when compared to some cheap sricams I bought. I've also been debating whether to use a webcam with a Pi as well and have just got the new Pi Zero wireless so may try with that as well and see what the wifi is like.
mk-donald
22 Mar 174#33
Just some random observations as had one of these for a couple of months, and I stand to be corrected on them:
Mi Home is the Android app that integrates it with other Mi Smart Gateway/Yeelights etc.
Camera works on regular g WiFi 2.4
Needs an external power supply fed to it thru its microUSB port ie 5V allegedly 1A from memory but I use an old mains rated 0.5A one.
As has been mentioned the app's controls/menus are only partially and poorly translated so haven't deduced yet fully how to exploit/understand it fully.
The Motion alarm with auto video recording only records for 15 seconds to local SD
The motion detection is unsophisticated and eg picks up passing headlights here so not usable for alerts.
Time Lapse works to local SD card
Low light viewing (no light!) via built in InfraRed good
The Mi Home app works locally and remotely to look at live over WiFi and over eg Vodafone 3G/4G but isn't always 100% reliable, especially if I've used the 'off' button to turn the camera off between remote monitoring.
The app can also "pull" ie download a snap/video file from the camera SD to the app for viewing, but playback control is pretty limited - and it's SLOW at that from the limited trials I've done
The Mi Home app itself keeps getting updated - and will update the camera firmware too - and keeps getting better & "more english" but it isn't flawless - eg has a bug that keeps randomly requiring a re-log-in and sometimes won't move from id to password field on first update (and briefly had a crash bug that wouldn't allow the Mi Smart Gateway to add devices through the software - you had to do it manually using the button on top of the Gateway)
It looks as if there is a HACK site where (trustable?) people have updated the firmware to make it far more capable, and that's a topic I intend to look into.
Conclusion : to get into the WiFi camera with remote viewing capabilities it's a cheap entry-level that will help you find out what features you want/need/value.
furiousjammin to mk-donald
22 Mar 171#34
Very informative post with a lot of my questions answered. Thanks for that.
Longy
23 Mar 171#35
I only got mine last night (from an earlier HUKD) and have a few other observations to add to mk-donald's useful list above).
It only works with the app (unless hacked) so you will need a smartphone or tablet to view the feed. It is not viewable from a web-browser.
It has no web interface (by browsing to its IP address) so you cant set up a static IP address or configure it to email motion alert photos (which I was hoping for).
Motion captures seem to be stored in the cloud. Any that you watch are downloaded locally to the phone memory. Any motion clips deleted through the app, deletes them from the cloud but not from the phone so they may accumulate on the phone and need maintenance once in a while.
The "Continuous record" option in the app requires the MicroSD but from looking at the SD card contents, the only time it has ever written to the internal MicroSD is before it was set-up and connected to the WiFi
I have not managed to get it to continually record to the SD card or put motion recordings on the SD card.
I have no clue as to what the USB port is on the back!
It will not work with Tinycam as far as I can see.
My feeling is that the feed, motion detection etc all go directly to Xiaomi's servers in China or wherever and you view them from there as there is no need for anything technical like port forwarding on your router. Although it is a bit of a concern that my video is going to a third party, this is also pretty cool as you normally have to pay a subscription for this kind of functionality and for them to host your content and in this case it is free and gets your content off-site in case a thief then spots and takes your camera with them.
As such I would conclude, this is a simple camera for those who want a camera to work out of the box without having to mess with router settings but a bit restrictive for tinkerers that are used to being able to delve into settings and configure cameras in other ways.
iammienta
24 Mar 171#36
It looks that in few days these could be had for £17.65
I've just received mine from one of the older posts here and so far very pleased with it.
Going to buy couple more. LINK
Tharinduk to iammienta
29 Mar 17#39
did you managed to get one? the cheaper options are not available anymore now. I found another listing asking nearly the same price but both of them only have £21ish options available :disappointed: looks like we have been played :neutral_face:
buglawton
25 Mar 17#37
For those wanting to view this cam on Windows, couldn't they use Amiduos, apparently it's a really simple way to run Android apps within Windows.
spammy
29 Mar 17#38
So, I did try to snag one at 17.65 this morning but it doesn't seem yo be working. Did anyone else manage to?
Spent a few well used minutes chatting to support. Didn't get anywhere. Looks like Magnets was right :smile:
Magnets to spammy
30 Mar 17#42
I've seen it so many times. They list them cheaply without accessories (SD card) but place it out of stock so that the main listing shows a really low price but you can't actually buy it.
Aliexpress sales feel like a bit of a con sometimes!
spammy
29 Mar 17#40
See above. If you're a first time buyer you can use the mobile app to get a $3 coupon, and then paying in USD gives you a few pennies more off (CC withstanding). I got it down to 18.xx.
Tharinduk
30 Mar 17#41
you mean i have to be a first time aliexpress user? i don't see any coupons available for me :neutral_face:
Opening post
I recently bought two of these from a recommendation off this very website and would like to promote them once more because they are simply fantastic.
The app is in Chinese (some bits are translated to English), but is very easy to work. The 1080p wide angle lens is similar to that found in a dashcam if any of you have one.
These are be powered by micro usb, so can be used anywhere - even using a portable power supply (usb powerbank).
If you have pesky pets or a child you'd like to keep your eye on in real-time whilst in another room, then these are perfect and at under £25 they're an absolute steal.
Top comments
Mi Home is the Android app that integrates it with other Mi Smart Gateway/Yeelights etc.
Camera works on regular g WiFi 2.4
Needs an external power supply fed to it thru its microUSB port ie 5V allegedly 1A from memory but I use an old mains rated 0.5A one.
As has been mentioned the app's controls/menus are only partially and poorly translated so haven't deduced yet fully how to exploit/understand it fully.
The Motion alarm with auto video recording only records for 15 seconds to local SD
The motion detection is unsophisticated and eg picks up passing headlights here so not usable for alerts.
Time Lapse works to local SD card
Low light viewing (no light!) via built in InfraRed good
The Mi Home app works locally and remotely to look at live over WiFi and over eg Vodafone 3G/4G but isn't always 100% reliable, especially if I've used the 'off' button to turn the camera off between remote monitoring.
The app can also "pull" ie download a snap/video file from the camera SD to the app for viewing, but playback control is pretty limited - and it's SLOW at that from the limited trials I've done
The Mi Home app itself keeps getting updated - and will update the camera firmware too - and keeps getting better & "more english" but it isn't flawless - eg has a bug that keeps randomly requiring a re-log-in and sometimes won't move from id to password field on first update (and briefly had a crash bug that wouldn't allow the Mi Smart Gateway to add devices through the software - you had to do it manually using the button on top of the Gateway)
It looks as if there is a HACK site where (trustable?) people have updated the firmware to make it far more capable, and that's a topic I intend to look into.
Conclusion : to get into the WiFi camera with remote viewing capabilities it's a cheap entry-level that will help you find out what features you want/need/value.
All comments (43)
# Does this provide motion sensed alert?
# Works with low light?
# Capable of connection to a router which has 2.4 & 5 GHz ?
Thanks
https://github.com/fritz-smh/yi-hack/issues/118
https://github.com/samtap/fang-hacks
They aren't perfect even with the hacks e.g. no motion detection with the hack, but its still being worked on.
I'll make it known on the post.
£21.55 -8.32% topcashback = £19.75
topcashback pretty much always tracks and pays for me on aliexpress - unlike quidco
Aliexpress standard shipping takes about 7-10 days and arrives fully tracked via royal mail 48
Mi Home is the Android app that integrates it with other Mi Smart Gateway/Yeelights etc.
Camera works on regular g WiFi 2.4
Needs an external power supply fed to it thru its microUSB port ie 5V allegedly 1A from memory but I use an old mains rated 0.5A one.
As has been mentioned the app's controls/menus are only partially and poorly translated so haven't deduced yet fully how to exploit/understand it fully.
The Motion alarm with auto video recording only records for 15 seconds to local SD
The motion detection is unsophisticated and eg picks up passing headlights here so not usable for alerts.
Time Lapse works to local SD card
Low light viewing (no light!) via built in InfraRed good
The Mi Home app works locally and remotely to look at live over WiFi and over eg Vodafone 3G/4G but isn't always 100% reliable, especially if I've used the 'off' button to turn the camera off between remote monitoring.
The app can also "pull" ie download a snap/video file from the camera SD to the app for viewing, but playback control is pretty limited - and it's SLOW at that from the limited trials I've done
The Mi Home app itself keeps getting updated - and will update the camera firmware too - and keeps getting better & "more english" but it isn't flawless - eg has a bug that keeps randomly requiring a re-log-in and sometimes won't move from id to password field on first update (and briefly had a crash bug that wouldn't allow the Mi Smart Gateway to add devices through the software - you had to do it manually using the button on top of the Gateway)
It looks as if there is a HACK site where (trustable?) people have updated the firmware to make it far more capable, and that's a topic I intend to look into.
Conclusion : to get into the WiFi camera with remote viewing capabilities it's a cheap entry-level that will help you find out what features you want/need/value.
It only works with the app (unless hacked) so you will need a smartphone or tablet to view the feed. It is not viewable from a web-browser.
It has no web interface (by browsing to its IP address) so you cant set up a static IP address or configure it to email motion alert photos (which I was hoping for).
Motion captures seem to be stored in the cloud. Any that you watch are downloaded locally to the phone memory. Any motion clips deleted through the app, deletes them from the cloud but not from the phone so they may accumulate on the phone and need maintenance once in a while.
The "Continuous record" option in the app requires the MicroSD but from looking at the SD card contents, the only time it has ever written to the internal MicroSD is before it was set-up and connected to the WiFi
I have not managed to get it to continually record to the SD card or put motion recordings on the SD card.
I have no clue as to what the USB port is on the back!
It will not work with Tinycam as far as I can see.
My feeling is that the feed, motion detection etc all go directly to Xiaomi's servers in China or wherever and you view them from there as there is no need for anything technical like port forwarding on your router. Although it is a bit of a concern that my video is going to a third party, this is also pretty cool as you normally have to pay a subscription for this kind of functionality and for them to host your content and in this case it is free and gets your content off-site in case a thief then spots and takes your camera with them.
As such I would conclude, this is a simple camera for those who want a camera to work out of the box without having to mess with router settings but a bit restrictive for tinkerers that are used to being able to delve into settings and configure cameras in other ways.
I've just received mine from one of the older posts here and so far very pleased with it.
Going to buy couple more. LINK
Spent a few well used minutes chatting to support. Didn't get anywhere. Looks like Magnets was right :smile:
Aliexpress sales feel like a bit of a con sometimes!