Far too much money for a phone. When did they become too expensive? I think anything over £300 is too much.

Buy her a 3310

Any fire extinguisher included in this price or I have to order it separately

On TCB is states £75 for "Samsung S8 & S8 Plus New Contracts and Upgrade Pre-Orders".

This is Sim Free so don't think it qualifies.

That's more or less what I expected to hear. Quality optimisation from Google, kind of makes me wish they had gotten into making their own phone long before I moved to iOS. Lol your anecdote with the Samsung does not surprise me in the slightest. Its truly tragic because Samsung would be unstoppable if they collaborated with Google like they did for the Galaxy Nexus. Best hardware and best optimised software.

Lol I agree. It must be seriously broken for them to not bother launching it out of the box. Never stopped them before though...yeah there is a hardware button for Bixby but it can be reprogrammed for anything.

No major glitches with the Pixel - I'm struggling to think of any 'glitches'. Battery is very good and almost as important it's honest. My old phone(Samsung, sigh) misreported the charge left. At 20% on the Samsung you wouldn't be able to spend 15 minutes surfing before it would be on 10%. At 10% you would be literally a couple of minutes from it turning off. On the Pixel, like my works iPhone, 20% is still hours from hutting down. Overnight the Pixel uses staggering little charge overnight - perhaps a percent or two.
I've had this since launch and there isn't much to say about it other than it's smooth and it does what you want.

P.S Bixby isn't shipping with the S8's now. Not ready(it must really be not ready cos it doesn't usually stop them). There is going to be a hardware button for something that isn't there.

I'd even agree to an extent with you. How's your battery life on it and software? Any glitches or issues? Its funny because I've always admired Google keyboard and think it superior to iOS keyboard which is a little outdated with no swipe option. Lol how I wish Siri was that competent. She is useless in doing anything right or quickly in my car. Google NOW on the other hand made me love my Note 5 even more. A true enhancement, and legal! :smiley: Google assistant just expands on this but is only available on android 7.0 above. Loads of handsets will miss out.

The pixel? Yeah it's great, all the things it does it does very well. If i could take something from the iPhone it would be the keyboard, it's better on the iPhone. I use Google assistant all the time, for the simple stuff. If you tell it to phone somewhere you don't know like 'Newbank Garden Centre' or 'Costco manchester' it doesn't matter that you don't have the number in your phone - it just rings them. It doesn't look it up and you have to press a button, it just does it. There may be loads of New bank garden centres in the uk but it rings the one near to you.
Also, if you have an incoming call Google looks up the number and if it can match it to a business the business is displayed instead of the number. That's Google assistant though, most androids have it now i suppose.
Id describe it as very solid, like the iPhone, but better - ha ha! I would say that though :smiley:

Undoubtably there's plenty I'd love my iPhone to do which my Android phones could do. Quick charging for one. The screens are for me, the best on the market. You just can't beat them. So responsive, so solid, so bright and colour accurate. Android can't beat em. I agree. Apple starts from the top in making sure iOS takes every advantage of the hardware and doesn't matter which side of the fence you sit, you can only praise that. Again, I whole-heartedly agree. Notifications are a complete joke on iOS. Its the only thing drawing me back to Android. Its unreal how bad Apple got this simple function. I preferred them on iOS 9. How is the Pixel? I do follow it and find it relatively appealing. Its incredibly simple and functional. Even seems iOS-esque in how there are relatively little hardware and software issues surrounding it aside from the lens glare.

Yeah Samsung have a history doing this. Adding incomplete features which make no difference to the user experience. Smart Stay anyone? I don't even bother with Siri, who is incompetent to say the least forget Bixby. There's only two people that ever got close to doing voice assistants even remotely right and that's Google and BlackBerry. I still look jealously at Android users because Google Now is so unbearably better than Siri and works perfectly in cars. Its at that point I wake Siri from her slumber and remind her that she's a piece of ****.

They did try 'Google editions' of other phones like the S4, HTC etc. They never took off sadly and even with stock android still faced software delays compared to Nexuses. I wished they had stuck it out. Its sad but true, Samsung have overtaken HTC as the best hardware manufacturer. Anyone that doesn't use a circular finger print sensor needs a slap. Its obviously the best way forward. I know people that swear by Samsung but I'd put them in the same category as a lot of iPhone users. They are so used to one way of doing everything that they can't see past their tried and tested method. Everything is inferior to their Samsung.

Actually I know that other OEMs have gone against removable batteries but the fact is that this discussion relates directs to Samsung and indirectly to Apple. Not against them investing in waterproof phones, if anything I love and encourage it. Its the next best selling feature for the standard consumer. FYI I owned a Note 5 and it was/is superb. I will however reserve my right to disagree with your comment about Samsung being a class beyond any other. The high resolution displays sap battery like nothing else and at a glance there is no discernible difference between the displays of my iPhone and Note 5. The only difference is that one has a display which rinses the battery no matter the resolution and the others doesn't seem to.

I've not owned a Xiaomi or Huawei phone so I'm happy to accept your opinion on Samsung being a step ahead of them. I however do not think that will last. They are both heavily driven and motivated to succeed and have great following in Asia and emerging markets.

I totally agree with all this. There are certain things that iPhones don't do that make them for me, untenable but the quality is there. The screens are, resolution aside, superb - very close to the glass, responsive etc - and that is without using OLED technology. Apple wring every last bit out of the hardware they use and they might add stuff you don't need but they don't add gimmicks that don't actually work. The exception being notifications which, compared to Android, are a joke. For my work I was issued an iPhone 6 - its still very, very smooth but had it been a nearly three year old Samsung I suspect it would have been smashed against a wall. Personally I've got a Pixel, it's not perfect but I'm very happy with it.
In my experience with Samsung, who seem the most cynical of all the major hardware manufacturers, they add 'features' simply for the headlines and literally don't care if it works or not. I'd be suspicious of Bixby. I remember S-Voice being touted in the same way Bixby is now, anyone use s-voice for more than a day or so? Doubt it, it rarely ever worked, for me at least.
What's suprising is that Samsung have THE BEST hardware, no question. My Pixel Xl couldn't touch an S8(arguably an S7) for hardware. If Samsung were to release a vanilla or google phone I'd be all over it but every year, don't know about the S8 yet, they make a phone that is compomised by the software. They want to constantly monetise by adding ****-poor implementations of app stores, voice search, browsers, music stores etc.

The reviews always seem to be glowing - which in the past I've fallen for but have baffled me after only a week of use. How could they not notice the lag? Why does it take so long for the screen to come on after pressing the power button? How can the keyboard be behind what I'm typing with nothing else going on?

I also have friends that like Samsungs so who knows.

...and why isn't their fingerprint button round? Are they nuts?

So Samsung is the only one that went away from removable batteries? Also, you do know that iPhone 7 has exactly the same design along with any waterproof phone. Both giants decided to invest in waterproof phones for a reason. Of course that means that to fix the phone you would need to replace front and back sides which is quite costly. To me Samsung phones are a class beyond any other, definitely a class beyond iPhones. Being an owner of both a Huawei and a Samsung I can tell you that the difference is enormous. Build quality, speed, software, camera, design superior in almost every aspect, except battery that comes at a cost when you're using a 2.5k amoled or 3k infinity display.

People who comment on Samsung's new generation phones need to own one before comparing it to any other.

mobilephonesdirect and smart mobiles got better contract deals about £150 less + £35 cashback. Also you can buy the speaker for £50 from Amazon, not really worth £99

No I don't think they will either. Maybe not because of the marketing but more so because their software is just simply too unsophisticated, they have no physical stores and their customer service is nowhere near Apples. Samsung have, to me that is, betrayed their loyal customers. Expensive hardware and cheap software. That was, is and will continue to be true of their products. They've gone backwards in many areas than forwards, like pricing and like you've mentioned. No removable battery which makes fixing their phones more difficult. No expandable memory, and to compensate, expensive upgrades in memory. Huawei aren't just better value imo, they're better full stop. Better battery, almost equal on the design, slightly behind on camera and software but closing up fast. They are a much needed breath of fresh area in the Android world which has grown stale with poor products from HTC and Motorola. I agree, Samsung should go back to basics. I would have thought that following Apple would mean, less features but higher quality in the ones they do put in.

I agree, and i don't think Samsung will ever attain the "status" phenomena like Apple have as their marketing focuses heavily on it, it only seems to appeal to a select group of people.
Samsung have played a risky game by following Apples lead in recent times, like removing the micro SD slot and sealing in the battery, both of which have had disastrous results!
And with their pricing going in the same direction as Apples, they're leaving a huge gap open for the third largest selling manufacturer Huawei to slip in and capitalise.
Samsung should stop trying to become the new Apple and focus on offering the best vale for money cutting edge products like they used to.

You might be right but by that analysis, that'll be never. Its far too much of an intellectual standpoint to expect the majority to reach. Some people can't see past consumerism and materialism. In fairness, there's little a smartphone can't do or certainly in my experience I've found this to be the case with my iPhone and Android. I'm starting to wonder if the 'status' phenomena can also be linking with say Samsung or Pixel phones because they too are becoming incredibly expensive.

What you say makes no sense and makes the rest of us that own iPhones, look like utter morons. Androids aside from Samsung, haven't lagged in years. The Pixel and HTC being almost iPhone like in how smooth and slick they are. Numerous developers have told me Android is safer than iOS ironically. They tell me iOS is incredibly easy to get into as opposed to Android. Not sure how true that is but its more true coming from developers than a troll.

Confirmed unfortunately. Despite their very misleading email and listing on their site:

​The battery life on my HTC 10 is 2 days plus, and i don't need any 'aftercare' - why do you need that? Oh, and it definitely doesn't lag, ever.

But hey, at least I'm getting good aftercare, security updates, amazing battery life. Enjoy your lagdroid.

I totally agree, i think it will end when people understand the full capabilities and limitations of a smartphone on a technological level, only then can they evaluate the true monetary value of it.

Apple phones are so common now, I wonder at what point will this, 'having one indicates your status' thing end?

​Yeah but it has an apple badge so he'll be able to fit in to his social circles better and people will think he's well off :laughing:

I agree. Which is why I can never go back to Samsung. Shame really because they seem to make the best hardware along with HTC in the world of Android. I'd go so far as to say they are far more capable than Apple.

LOL he said he does not like Touchwiz, Nova launcher changes that! You are talking about YOUR experiences which is completely different.

LOL, I thought were taking the p*ss ... I went to their site to check ... damn ... 1920x1080 ... :smiley:

this is a great price, my only concern before jumping on this one is the battery. Need a battery review before I but this one. looks like a lot of less battery to perform lots of stuff.

So does the £75 cashback definitely not apply as this is a sim free deal?

Don't forget the adaptors! :laughing:

£919 for a 1920 x 1080 screen phone

A better deal in my opinion is buy direct from Samsung they are offering free insurance for 12 months

​will get use to it.

I'd rather have a G6 over this.

Any deals on those?

I've got the s7 edge which is a marvellous phone. The new s8 looks good, but the s8 plus looks very large. I'll need to do a direct comparison in store. Music playback on the 7 edge is inferior to the s6 edge plus but video playback is outstanding. It's screen is light years above the latest iPhone. I can't remember it's name. I don't know how people put up with the iPhones low quality screen( by Samsung standards) I suppose people buy iPhones for reasons other than quality ( showing off. As if anyone cares)
I'm a massive fan of Samsung phones and apple tablets. The new s8 looks very good and won't cost me any more than my current contract.

​Three in Westfield and vodafone

They're in stores already?! Which store was that?

iSheep? Is that what you can come back with? Well, I'm picking up a red iPhone 7 plus 256 GB today. Enjoy your bargain bin android and expendable widgets. It's people like you who have ruined this site by voting cold anything iOS.

Why is it that every triggered, butthurt iSheep ends their sentence with a claim that they own an Android device and own no Apple devices ? lol

Coming from LG3, Isn't the phone screen ridiculously narrow? I just saw it in one of the high street stores and never thought it would be that narrow. The s8+ has a wider screen but ridiculously tall!!

No because it's beyond stupid. If you wanna talk about "two year" old specs. Let's compare the camera, security updates, updates in general, privacy, processor, battery life, storage speed, quality of apps, tight integration, consistency among different iOS devices, world class support... I can go on and on. Most of the stuff in that picture just straight up crap
Also: I've never owned iOS device, always been on android.

Because the truth hurts ?

I bought the S7 largely for the camera as I am keen on taking pictures. The cameras on cheaper Chinese phones simply don't compare.

My G4 looped as well. Not touching G6 + it has two year old parts.

Wow, this is such a dumb comment.

my G4 was out of warranty by around 4 months and they repaired my bootloop fault...i was happy with LG service but NOT happy that i lost all my data

​Poor old you.Maybe spend less money on drink and rags and buy a nice new phone.If people like us don't buy new phones tech and cars who would keep the economy going :wink:

I currently have an Iphone 7, I am perfectly happy with it is a great phone.
I plan on buying the Galaxy S8 we shall see how that is and I will likely sell my Iphone. I do not need it but rather something I wish to spend my money on I tend to do this every 6 months at a cost of around £100 a time.

Other people will be in the same boat I imagine.

But I like being shallow and spending money on new toys.
It's one of the joys of living in the free world, helping the economy by buying stuff I don't really need but really want.

... and if I wanted an unappealing mediocre Chinese phone, that all you 'discerning' people are apparently so delighted with you spend hours on every mobile phone post trying to convince everyone else (and probably yourself tbh) how great they are, I'd buy one... I don't, I want ostentatious, cutting edge, shallow shiny things.

It's not that simple. In fact, in this case you are completely wrong.
Here we see the Note 5 with the same screen size and pixel density. It has a more efficient CPU & a smaller battery (450mAh smaller)and it clearly bests the 6P in every single test.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9820/the-google-nexus-6p-review/6
I rest my case.

yeah was along that line actually.anyway my point has been noted have not pre ordered yet may wait a little to see if i can get a better deal

You talk about them wearing masks though? I think you may be confused with a more popular saying involving a Mr R. Turpin.

Thanks HUKD - a true money saving site. I've saved £689 by simply not buying this. Also got a speaker-sized extra bit of room in my house not being cluttered up too. Awesome. :smirk:

People saying they simply *must* have this and wetting themselves over it... really? My current phone is less than a quarter of the price of this and does everything this thing does. OK the camera lets my phone down a little, but only in dark conditions. I'm more than happy to live with that aspect given the price differential. I can buy an SLR and still be better off! And it may not be as lightning fast, but it's not laggy at all. Oh, but it does have a big screen and 4000mAh battery which lasts all day.
I guess if you're one of the herd, you'll get this regardless, echoes of iSheep spring to mind. But the Chinese phones which are apparently so dodgy are a real presence and enlightened people are cottoning on. Only by switching to the more competitive offerings (which are still excellent in terms of build quality and value for money) will the large manufacturers take heed and adjust their pricing accordingly. But then some people like the "premium" brands in some sort of bragging right/appendage swinging type competition...

Well, that sort of transparent shallowness costs a lot of money, doesn't it?! :smile:

I've not actually voted either way, it might be a fantastic "deal" compared to other places, but as one poster said - it's just too much money and that's nailed the "must have" mentality of folks who are sustaining the ludicrous price.

Apologies, I didn't turn up here to sound off, I'm normally a cheerful person!

(Previously HUKD has had me part with cash for ZTE Blade, HTC Evo 3D, Nexus 4 and now a Redmi Note 3 Pro Prime (Kate) with all the UK bands.)

Well as the 3T is £399 officially (some places selling for less) which is about 60% of the price of Samsung's previous (S7) models, how much were you expecting this to be??

drivel ezzer how rude i was just saying that if we want the s8 and the latest tech we have to pay through the nose for it.and for the purposes of this thread samsung know this.

Which masks are you talking about?

You and the other guy Common Sense are like two children, some utter drivel you have both spouted in this thread.

Unless they invent a new technology for battery cells or you want a phone the size of your arm, I'm afraid that's how it is for all phones and laptops.

https://oneplus.net/uk/3t?utm_source=google-search&utm_campaign=brand-en&utm_medium=ecommerce&gclid=CjwKEAjw_PfGBRDW_sutqMbQsmMSJAAMpUapvCtUIK6lENJUjD77nSE_pOfa-B22nuV3XBmnXVkjXBoCTjHw_wcB

Buy ittttt

will snap one up for £200

Been playing with the plus on and off all day, screen is phenomenal, battery life surprisingly good, like how you get the choice of resolution.

Might just be my next phone.

Tempted to just get the one plus 3 T instead of the new Samsung s8 Plus. Price is disappointing.

Totally agree, I loved my G4 but it did that rainbow screen fault which is a variation of the bootloop thing... had to put the board into the freezer for 24 hours in order to get my data off it and factory reset it. Absolute joke of a phone made even worse by LG's contempt for their customers.
Never buying an LG phone again. Ever.

I still have an LG3 and works fine. Not sure to buy the S8 or not but may wait a few months for the Note 8 at least that has a stylus that adds more functionality plus wide angle camera to justify the hefty price I'm paying but actually saved over the years by not upgrading my G3 for 3 yrs!

No it doesn't, it just changes the overlay you interact with. The fundamental problems, in my experience remain.

Novalauncher. £2. It will solve ALL you problems. :-)

Lovely looking phone, but can't justify that sort of money...

Anything over £250-300 is top whack for me!

Amazon has the speaker on at £53.12.

Agreed.

Display size and pixel density are the biggest drain on battery

I've had both a Note 2 & 4 and whilst good phones, both have died before the end of their 2 year contracts. Samsung said they had been water damaged which is just not true - never dropped them in water etc. I'm reluctant to get another Samsung for this reason - i have an iPhone 4 which is still going strong....

Everyone just wait for the oneplus 4/5 it's literally half the price

That and G4's bootloop. Mine did and since it's out of warranty but a few months LG have not agreed to repair it. My LG G3 is still going strong but picked up an S7 for £20 a month on EE with 2Gb Data and unlimited everything else. Not a bad deal really.

I would have been tempted for an LG G6 but the way LG acted on the Bootloop was outrageous. The phone is a ticking time bomb.

I think his repairs are more fairly priced.
I thought i was in a minority that enjoyed watching him rant :laughing:

Yep - I watch Louis Rossman regularly. He gets **** with Apple because he's made a living repairing their products, and now they're making it increasingly hard for him to do so, so it's understandable he's pretty bitter towards them.

I still don't understand the desire to solder everything to the logic board (SSD, RAM, etc) - it saves the most miniscule amount of space, at the expense of making it impossible to repair the machine inexpensively. It's completely indefensible.

I think if you are able to handle Note 4 in terms of size, S8 is a small matter. Check out the comparison chart from GSMARENA.

The cashback from TCB is being tracked for a fiver for sim free phone. Its 75 only for pay monthly phones. The deal needs to update!

Its also a kind of thing to have to mark your 'status' if you think about it. Its a very hipster and social thing to do. Apple are supported everywhere, they rarely do things by half measure. They have accessories in abundance, a high rate of success when it comes to security and software. Google are getting on the train with the Pixels but they are too late and have too little experience in making phones physically.

I guess in societies that are geared to long hours and being productive as possible, people like things that are simple, easy to use and get results. My nephew and niece are 6 and 3. They can use an iPhone/iPad with ease. My parents are both over 50 and can use the iPad. I tried desperately to get them to use the nexus and they just couldn't do it for whatever reason.

oh so you didn't have anything to say and went on snooping around my account hahaha
mate...apply some cold to your burnt area :smiley:

Ok, agreed.

Exactly. Why couldn't they just adopt HTCs stance which is to rely on Google's software that does the same thing as their own? Why convolute things? Its just more efficient to let Google manage those things and divert your resources elsewhere isn't of spending money making a similar app. I can't go back to Samsung with these flaws in place and they won't change either.

Totally agree, Apple isn't the same company but then nothing stays the same. Are they better or worse, depends on which perspective you consult. Shareholders will say better in every way. Consumers might disagree with that. Its clear

Apple are not so divided now in terms of their resources and clearly focus on specific markets like the Pro market for their laptops. They were undeniable kings of quality and power, now you can't really say that about the new stuff. Its all for hipsters imo.

I just think as disappointing it is that they've effectively abandoned the desktop market, its to be expected. They just don't sell enough of them to make further investment worthwhile. Like any company out there, they seek to maximise profits otherwise there is no reason for them to exist.

You obviously know more about technology than the average Apple customer, so you can see both sides of the debate.
I agree that brand reputation is Apples number one priority and they will do anything in their power to protect that.
I also agree that most of their customers aren't interested in tinkering, modding or overclocking their devices which is why their marketing has been so successful, because they keep it simple.
But they do charge way more than it's worth imo.
I don't know if you've heard of "Louis Rossmann" or seen any of his youtube video's, but he actually makes a living from repairing Apple products and even he goes off on Apple despite the fact that, it is his source of income.
If you have had any common faults with any of your products, i'm sure he's diagnosed it at some point.

That's kind of what I was trying to get at. Samsung make the screen but the technology behind them i.e. the software, how the OS uses the display etc is all Apple's handy work.

I want to be clear.. despite being an iPhone owner, and owning a lot of Apple hardware, my enthusiasm for them has nose dived in recent years and I've definitely began to lean more to the cynical side. Their complete abandonment of the desktop market in recent years, the neglect of their Pro customers, all in the pursuit of selling little trinkets like the Apple Watch have left a very sour taste in the mouth.. they're just not the same company any more.

But.. a few points to clear up. Their products aren't incompatible with other brands as such, though you could look at it that way. I think it comes down to control. Ensuring the quality of the ecosystem through specific licensed products, rather than allowing any old company to manufacture garbage which could potentially damage the brand. It's all about protecting the image / reputation of the brand.

Android is supported aftermarket through enthusiast forums and custom ROM's but that's far more in depth than the average consumer is willing to go with their product. Love it or hate it (and I can tell you're a tech enthusiast) most people just don't care that much. Even as someone who's worked in IT for decades, I can tell you now that even I don't care that much.. I've gone through the fun of custom firmware on Android devices, and sideloaded new firmware before it got pushed out OTA, etc - but I've sort of gotten to the point where I have other stuff in my life I care about more now, so I just want my stuff to work..

Yeah, antennagate was a joke.. and indeed Apple's attitude to certain defects with their hardware has been pretty inexcusable. Their (hideously dated, and in dire need of a hardware refresh) "flagship" desktop product the Mac Pro is plagued with issues around the GPU and I read of people going through multiple hardware replacements with Apple trying to fix them.. it always seems to be around GPU's, as people had issues with them on old MacBook's, etc and they always seem to refuse to accept there's a wider issue and just recall them.

Great looking device. I like the screen, hate the location of the fingerprint reader, why so high up? Shame its Samsung and not a Pixel running pure stock.

1. "people buy into the brand" Agree
2. "world class customer service" not sure if you would still get that service if their pricing was as low as most of their competitors, again you've already paid for it, and if you're constantly relying on customer service, what does that say about the quality and reliability of the product ?
3. "regular updates" Agree but that's because with Apple there's only one brand of device whereas with Android, there are hundreds
4. "great security" it's not unknown for Apple devices to get viruses too, so i tend to disagree with that
5. "resale values" Agree, but that's artificial because it's overhyped.
6. "but they're generally faster and three years down the line have barely lost any speed or usability" Agree, but Android has not been optimised for 1 device but still has far more customisation and features, which puts more of a load onto the hardware and despite this, it still performs remarkably well under the circumstances.
But at the end of the day, i believe that iOs and Android device owners are two different kinds of users.
iOS device owners generally just adapt to their devices as they aren't aware of the full capabilities of a modern day smartphone and for that reason will always be blissfully happy (at least until they find out)
Android device owners are generally more tech literate and are aware of most if not all of the capabilities of a modern day smartphone and are more demanding and always expecting more.

I'd argue that iPhones value isn't necessarily artificially high, people buy into the brand, world class customer service, regular updates, great security, resale values, great UI (in my opinion). People bang on about the specs, but lets face it, they refine their systems so well that with less specs you're getting consistently better/similar levels of performance. People similarly bang on about MacBook pro's being under-specked when compared with other brands - but they're generally faster and three years down the line have barely lost any speed or usability. I wouldn't class myself as a fanboy, I just want products that perfect very well on a long term and consistent basis.

I understand what you're trying to say, but can you not see that the only reason people are sticking with Apple is because they're already heavily invested in them and Apple has secured their custom by making all their products incompatible with any other brand.
Yes their marketing has been successful, but when you look at the average iPhone customers tech literacy, you soon realise that it's more like taking candy from a baby, not really rocket science.
With regards to updates, the beauty of Open Source means that most high end Android devices are supported by the Android community despite lack of support from manufacturers and anyway lack of updates does not mean a device automatically stops working, i've proved that with my 3+ year old Samsung Galaxy Note 3.
I would have considered giving Apple some credit if they played fairly but they don't, when something goes wrong with their products, they blame the customer for not using it correctly (Antennagate), i'm sorry but i just can't trust a company like that.
With Apples record profits, do you really think they need any more credit ? lol

I'm actually waiting for the Note 8, but i never buy on release anyway, it makes more sense to wait a little while, because other phones don't retain an artificially high price like iPhones do.

They take the majority of global smartphone profits for several reasons.. one, the phones generally work very well, so they get repeat custom from the same people. They're reliable, well featured, and the ecosystem and interplay between other Apple hardware is very good. The very 'walled garden' system you bemoan is what a lot of people want. Plus you get software updates for years - they're still updating the iPhone 4S which came out in 2011! I'm not sure there's ANY Android handsets still receiving security and feature updates this long after release, but please correct me if I'm wrong.

But the other reason is they've become a desirable 'brand' purely through marketing. Personally I hate marketing and brands generally, but have to hand it to Apple as they've cracked it.. and as a result people want to own their stuff for no other reason than it's Apple.

I realise I'm probably wasting my breath here as, reading your posts, you seem blinkered towards Android only and can't give Apple an ounce of credit..

My Note 3 is still going strong, but i'm also waiting for the Samsung Galaxy Note 8, after Samsung disappointed me with the Notes 5 and 7, so i decided to get the Huawei Honor Note 8 in the meantime and so far i'm quite impressed considering the £388 price tag!
The Samsung Galaxy Note 4 is a great choice of phone by the way.

And that's exactly how they remain in business by taking the majority of global smartphone profits, they hold their customers to ransom. because they know well that they cannot compete technologically, that's why they deliberately make their products incompatible with any other brand of product and try to block sales of their competitors products by suing them.

the deal states £689 plus cash back but this is wrong. so all your doing is voting hot on a phone at retail price with a speaker. deal sucks compaired to what the US are getting. if you can just hold off until the dock or the VR is free. i almost did the upgrade program but back out until theres a good deal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO0M83omY10
Concern remedied.
Any other concerns ?

True and that's fair enough. But now you're paying more for it.

You mention "world class service" but you don't seem to realise that you've already paid up front for that service when you buy an iPhone.
In the over 3+ years i've owned my Samsung Galaxy Note 3, i have never once needed any kind of service, and that goes the same for two of my other mates that own the same model phone.
I personally would rather pay less for the device and not require any service than pay more and depend on it.

I like how iPhones are regarded as the device for 'sheep' when they're not even the majority selling device any more. Samsung sell more phones than Apple do. But fanboy's gonna fanboy regardless I guess.

I was thinking about changing but it's just stupid money, I'll stick with my Nexus 6P it's buttery smooth great camera imo and the killer stock vanilla android , don't think i could deal with the touchwiz and bloatware rubbish Samsung naively insist on installing why don't they just have stock android

Well done!
Steve Jobs would be proud of you!

Huh ? lol
You do realise that the screens are actually Samsungs own creation and Apple only create software right ?

The price will drop in good time after release.

I agree, i just bought this beast with a 6.6" 2K Super AMOLED screen

and it cost me £300 less than this!
(Oh, it was the 128GB model as well) :wink:

Looks like they're copying Apple again! :neutral_face:

I don't think so, it's actually Apple that are going down.

What's your source ? appleinsider.com ?

Here's a clue.

2017 called.... they want their joke back!

gonna wait for Better colours and cheaper price

I have a note 3 was going to upgrade to note 5 but they never released it here plus it never had sd card support. No note 6 to add insult the note 7's default was suicide bomber inspired.
Now hoping the note 8 knocks it out the park BUT the Galaxy X looks to be a foldable phone which would mean the note 9 next year will also be foldable.
I get the note 8 this year or hold out for note 9? and settle for a note 4 in between.

Yeah, that's what I'm hoping. As long as the battery lasts longer than the s6 then I'll definitely be putting a preorder in.

It's not just about battery capacity that determines how long the device will last between charges. The CPU, GPU, radio and screen will all be more power efficient than the previous versions.

Android also gets updated with new power saving features each version.

We're all waiting for that battery power revolution.

... I've just been playing with one at Samsung this evening, it's an absolute thing of beauty. The screen is insanely cool, noticably better than the S7, the soft buttons and UI are brilliant, it's very small in the hand to what I was expecting and both cameras are superb. I love the new screen ratio too, it's surprisingly different than 16:9.
An absolute beast of a phone... and I'm not a Samsung obsessive, been using LG for years tbh.

many folks here only vote a phone hot if :
1-it's not Apple (now also add Samsung)
2-it's "Doogee" or "Elephone" or entry range Xiaomi,etc with ghetto washed out screens and under £200

G4 for sub-100? I just sold mine with a smashed screen for £90 so good luck with that one.

You could use one of these for a year and sell it on for 400-500 so I don't think 689 is especially expensive tbh.

Like I said, it's not an issue as found Samsung's customer service quite good. But if I did have a problem then I can just go over to any other manufacturer (barring Apple) and I would keep everything I have ever purchased (music, videos, cloud storage and apps). Switching is as simple as logging in on the new device.

Unfortunately if Apple upset you, it's like a messy divorce. They practically own everything, including your soul!

Im totally against how they operate and believe that's why they charge an unjustified premium. Users are practically held hostage and worryingly they are getting more aggressive in this area. If you don't believe me then read up on the real reasons for scrapping the aux port.

Its total madness as let's be honest, a £300 oneplus 3 does everything an iPhone 7 does and more! :wink:

​Many many people are trying to improve batteries, it's not a simple task. Within the next 10 years there will be better battery technology. There isn't a simple fix and it's not as if many very clever people aren't trying.

Tbh I have never really had a problem with Samsung but if I did I would vote with my feet. As Android is open I could choose pretty much any handset manufacturer and moving to a new phone is seamless (I keep all of my apps, music, pictures etc)

That's my biggest gripe with Apple, if they upset you or ramp up their prices then you are scuppered. They own the os, they own all of your music, your apps... everything, essentially they own you!

its just to big for me quality tho agree there

New Note 8 for me......i love my Note 4, it would take a lot to give it up.
Best mobile phone the planet has ever known.Including any Apple.

youll get that ant checked recycling yesterday there 321

Just wondering what everyone thinks of the LG G6 vs S8?

​I didnt think of that tbh, oops :laughing:

Aslong as i get 200 min for it im happy

Not sure what you mean about the 3 x the value thing, but one thing I do know is that I was almost tempted by the beast of a screen on this thing.

As someone else has mentioned though, with Apple and their premium pricing, you're also getting a world class level of CS.

your right leo between apple and samung we are getting held to ransom.they are legalised thieves with masks on

Well as I said above, I tend to justify it as '£2-3 a day over a year' which equates to a coffee or beer. And with the iPhone, you do get better resell value (fact) and Apple Stores do just offer better support in the event you need it.

About the best thing I can say about my iPhone 7 is, I almost forget to worry about it because it is so dependable - it may be boring but it is tried and tested.

sorry about that plewis i do go a little off the rails with samsung and i shouldnt.i know a few people have had problems with samsung and the galaxy range i must just have been lucky because for me thyve been faultless.in regards to the s6 when i sold my s6 and got the s7 edge i noticed a massive difference in performance sure it may have been because im using ee double speed data and where i live the 4g is awesome.i couldnt recommend the s7 edge enough.i sold mine after only having it for 10 months.i sold it about 3 months ago in preperation for the release of the s8 and thinking the price would probably drop another 10-15%.unless they reduce the s8 or offer better contract deals.i will probably buy another s7 edge i can get one for 300 and really theres not a 500 pound swing between the pro and the s7 edge.i dont care about the bells and whistles i purely need my phones for speed and performance i dont care about anything else

Yeah, think that's what they are, I'll check.

Maybe the current economic situation has given Samsung less of a margin to work with. It's a shame as post Brexit we are at the bottom of the food chain.

Just an FYI, this phone is massive. I would recommend anyone go and take a look in person at the phone before dropping £689 on it; as a Galaxy user for sometime, it is vastly different to my S6 and S7. You can't operate the whole length of the phone with just one hand and your thumb, which has really put me off. The screen is unbelievable though, amazing quality!

Fair enough but this is on another level to the iPhone 7. The iPhone 8 will inevitably be more expensive, they always try to price their handsets higher than competitors, it adds perceived value. Apple are marketing masterminds.

It also certainly won't be the last time Apple will be in your wallet, over the life of the phone they probably fleece you for 3 x the handsets value.

But, everyone to their own.

I know you are a Samsung diehard (!), you slammed me in another thread for dumping my S7 Edge and going to iPhone :smile:

But my S7 Edge broke through nothing of my own fault, and Samsung's support was rubbish. I still have a Tab S2 in my desk drawer at work that they won't fix (they've sent it back twice, still broken). And when my S7 Edge worked, I thought it was great and probably would still do if it hadn't failed.

I agree the S8 isn't worth the extra right now, I will probably get another S7 Edge as my second phone sometime. Even the S6 would've done me, but the waterproofing and expandable memory is important.

get a Lenovo P2 36 hour battery and nearly 500 quid cheaper

All S8's come bundled with in ear AKG earbuds in all countries. If you have a look at the US Samsung site the $99 bundle has the "overhead" AKG headphones and 256GB micro sd as well as the free Gear VR.

I reckon that is what Three are referring to.

Funny you should say that, I usually go Apple but this time I waited for the S8. But due to the price I'm sticking with Apple. If it was cheaper i'd have gone for the Samsung, not paying more for it than an iPhone that in my opinion, just does everything I need and does it very well.

I don't think this phone is targeted at S7 users. I think they are focusing on converting S6 users who are at the end of their contracts. Also trying to get people to jump ship from Apple and other manufacturers.

i know ive got the cash spare but unless i get a better deal its buy another s7 sdge for me until the prices drop or i maybe get offered the handset cheaper.im not paying it simple as

Not sure if it's all networks but I know with Three you get AKG headphones FOC if you preorder. I rang them and they confirmed it over the phone.

Oh I meant 'only you' as in plural.. as in the consumers who purchase these ridiculously priced phones on release day.. :P

The 6P has a terribly unefficient CPU though.

lol its not me tho its all the samsung diehard and many will be getting the same comments thrown at them.however it just goes over there heads.they may be getting free business phones be due a contract this list is endless.i and many on here are just a tiny proportion.i may wait and sit at the back of the bus and not get the s8 on release.however to one of me theres 100 that will say to me up yxxxxs im not listening.and talk to the hand

Yeah they do!

Only you can stop the madness!!

at this rate the s10 will cost £2000 !

very very good point and i hope your right.it all depends on pre orders i think this will set the trend.im going to sit back and see how things develop

estjaydee its like a legalised drug mate we just cant help ourselves and samsung know that

Nah, as soon as the iphone 7 and iphone anniversary get announced/released and with the Note 8 coming out around then, S8's will drop. There's also the fact that Samsung need to shift serious volumes of S8's to recoup the $5.3bn lost with the Note 7's and the fact that many S7 users won't upgrade, they will have to make it more competitive.

plewis im a samsung diehard and have been for years.i need my phone for my work its on the go constantly i have to have the best phones with the fastest processors thats why i choose samsung and always will.however this phone is expensive for what extra you get.the s7 edge is not that far behind and i can buy that handset private for about 300pounds there currently only 321 on recycling.the price gap is huge however ill probably fall for the s8 pro and cough up thyve got some sort of hold over me.its like a legalised drug for me

Its absolutely ridiculous... you can get a LG G4 for under £100 on ebay.. or a G5 for around £200.

Its a flagship phone and is just as good as an overpriced Samsung.

Sorry .. didn't mean to go off on one.. I just cannot fathom why people spend so much just to have the latest Samsung or iPhone.

Hell I'm still rocking my G3.. runs everything fast still..

im up for that they can shove there 9.99 speaker up there xxx

I don't think it's that stupid. A phone is probably the single item you interact with most in any given day - why not spend good money on a product you use that often?

As to rising prices someone else mentioned, I think it's linked to SIM only pricing tumbling, the phone part seems and is, proportionately more.

Maybe if we all boycott the pre order and hold out for them to match the US offer. The Gear VR is a £99 freebie, the micro sd alone is £134 here which together with the AKG headphones they get for $99 (I read that the combined value of these is around $400).

sold mine 3 months ago ant because i know the s7 would drop 10-15% on release of s8 currently running a basic motorolla to fill in the gap

your exactly right and its a brilliant post ive got no time for apple but the post is excellent.they are excellent phones but they just copy samsung and others and are always late getting to the market place.overly priced as is the s8 but people que in stores at like silly oclock in the morning to get the new models.maybe we all guilty of giving these companys our money.however if we want the best tech we must pay and they bloody know that.its the way the world works sadly.i will say this tho apple phones hold there pricing more than any other brand fact

youll be waiting a lot longer then september this phone pricing will be rock solid maybe and just maybe you might get some deals for xmas

cheers bro i wouldnt go with apple at any cost

hahahahahahaha

Because of the note 7 issue they lost alot of money and alot of customers who moved to apple instead thats the reason why apple doing good with the iphone 7 plus models

the s7 edge is an awesome phone only just sold mine in readiness for this however i might be buying another one if these prices dont drop.

no bro it was off the cuff i dont really watch a lot of tv jeez 18% im worried still they might have to reduce there handsets then yipeee

i know 8 days earlier woop bloody doop samsung im hating this pricing but thyve got me and they bloody know it

Samsung market share is dropping mate have u read the news lately from 32% to 18%

This or samsung s7 edge? Currently have an s5 but it's starting to slow down. On a decent 30 gb deal with 3 for £20 per month.

my last few years has been samsungs through the range actually got a good deal on the s7 edge last year but it had been out 6 months.i know that i dont need the s8 pro but muggins here will probably give into the temptation.the minute i see someone in the street holding the handset my tongue will hit the floor and thats me.samsung bloody know this grr

Looking to upgrade my S4 and was seriously considering the S8 at launch but a bit annoyed as I have just seen the US get a free Gear VR, but even better they get the option to buy AKG premium headphones and a 256GB micro sd card for just $99.

We get to get it "up to 8 days early". WOW, thanks a lot Samsung. How generous! They don't even guarantee 8 days before release. Just up to.

Will either go for a good deal on a S7 edge or wait till September when the prices will drop.

it wont catch fire the note fiasco is a distant memory your back in the 1980s samsung has more of the smartphone market share than anyone and thats with the note crap

Samsung have shown great "courage" keeping the 3.5mm headphone jack :wink:

really stupid the trouble is if we want these new toys we have to pay theres no way around it

Here's my Phone career of recent;
- Samsung Galaxy S3
- Samsung Galaxy Alpha
- Apple iPhone 6
- Samsung Galaxy S8+

I've saved a lot of money not getting new phones, but looking back, this is the most I've ever spent on a phone even though I know it's a waste of money. £749 for a S8+. I could have spent that on some bills or even invest it my business....Occasionally though, as people all know, we do absolutely stupid, idiotic things....

brilliant post and im a samsung die hard im going to sit back and wait,if all else fails and i dont get the right deal im buying another s7 edge which i can comfortably buy at 300 pounds

2 year old tech, not parts. Don't get me wrong, the original iPhone was a real step forward but now they just seem to copy everyone else. They seem to be the last to market with everything... Apart from stupid 'innovations" like removing the headphone socket of course!

They are no longer innovators, just followers.

This phone looks unreal! Apple have some serious catching up to do!

Selling my s7 edge to go buy this upon release, no contract as i already have sim deal!

Btw o2 have a similar offer for contract & you also get it 8days before official release

agree should do to stop confusion

agree apple fan i hate veg im a meat eater simple as

totally agree the s8 will drop maximum 150 off retail after the first year

What two year old parts?

This or the Xiaomi mi mix? similar price.... both crazy new tech??

Because Apple charge a higher price (and have for years) but use 2 year old tech. They also control every aspect of the os limiting choice and competition by forcing people to use their ecosystem.

Thist is why they only have a paltry 14% market share yet suck up 90% of the profits.

Genius from a business perspective, but from a consumer perspective...they have your pants down.

At least after I have purchased an S8 my money can be spent wherever I want moving forward.

P.s sorry for the rant :smiley:

Increasingly there's a sizeable market gap for quality phones in the £300 to £500 range. OnePlus are obviously in that sector but even they bumped up the price of the 3T and you'd expect their next phone to be more expensive again.

people rip into Apple for being overpriced.
Samsung are just as bad, if not worse!
At least Apple factories get scrutinized for working conditions..
When was the last time a Samsung factory was put under the same spotlight. I bet the people assembling this phone have it alot worse.

ps: sorry for the rant

Just becareful it dont catch fire

I'm so tempted to order this as contract up for renewal but genuinely concerned about battery life.

I've had an s6 edge for the last two years and it struggles to make a day, if it's like that then I'm out. On the flipside 10nm is a lot more efficient so it could actually be good.

I think I'll wait for the reviews before I take the plunge.

But saying that, what is the alternative right now? All other phones look lackluster in comparison or are quite dated.

I think I'll stay with my contract and buy a phone outright but it won't cost anything like as much as this.

S7 is a decent upgrade. New update has made a great difference to battery.
Ill be keeping mine for at least the next 12 months.

Thats the problem with contract phones, people only see the monthly cost.

If phones could only be purchased outright, I think over the years pricing today would be a completely different story.

​Did you mean when your hand is in your trouser pocket?

I pay £34 a month for S6 contract that's almost up there's no way I'm going to pay £55 a month for an S8 or buy one outright. Even Huawei phones are expensive now, it's all gone a bit stupid.

give it some time to buy !!these phones aren't reliable anymore. batteries can blow up anytime

Getting expensive but that was a certainty.

Weak pound really starting to show.

And all those bloatware

Well I've had a day with itntoday and have to say I'm not that impressed.The plus has the strangest proportions ever and the fingerprint scanner is unusable due to how high it is.Camera is brilliant and the overall speed very quick.In all not that much different from the s7 edge and very pricey.I miss the menu button but the flick up the screen to access the menus is a nice trick and swipe down to close. Craftsmanship on the phone is excellent and feels a quality phone but worth the extra I just Don't think so.For those who have money and like great tech just dip in.The free speaker is pretty pants and no way worth £99 more like £39.99.Ill be buying the plus with staff discount and a trade in so not too much for me.

​You seem to be suggesting I'm an apple fan by that sharp response, I have a Nexus 6P
Anyway I'll let that pass, all I'm saying is Samsung is still expensive regardless of the phone spec and have followed apples lead in ripping consumers off imo

This is SUCH a good point, the raft of sub £250 phones from Xiaomi that have amazing specs for such a little amount of money is something Samsung and the like are gonna need to sit up and take note of, especially if they launch worldwide, pair that with a £20 sim, job done!
CPU, fingerprint scanners (fantastic ones at that), fast charging, big batteries.
Take note!

I think OP ought to remove the £75 TCB from the description. You don't get cashback on the phone.

Ordered

I'm waiting for the news of the refurbished Note 7 ... :smiley:

Actually, this makes my business case for buying a Redmi Note 4 a lot stronger :smile:

I think Android 7 includes the resolution aspect. It has it on my S7 edge running android 7 anyway. 1080p looks fine too.

For people looking at the S8 standard, just get a practicly new S7 edge if it means saving £300.

Rather get the LG G6.

3000mAh!!!

My Nexus 6p has 3450mAh and i struggle to get a full day use out of it!

TouchWiz = No purchase

I've messaged TopCashBack CS to confirm cashback and it's a no. No cashback on handset only.

Looks like a great phone. Any idea what the RRP is on it?

All these advances in technology and still a poor battery

Agreed, and Samsung devices don't retain an artificially high value like iPhones as they don't have sheeple queuing up day and night for them.

I have to say reading about the finger print sensor position worries me. Let's hope they didn't rush the thing (S8) to market. They have been advertising heavily their testing processes!

There's no justice in paying £700+ for a mobile phone, I really think Apple & Samsung should be made to cap there phone prices at £400 (max) sim free. It's not like the companies don't make enough money anyway, it's a shame that some people these silly prices are justifiable, realistically, everyone should boycott and demand the prices are lowered!

Explosive deal!

HEAT, such an opportune word for Samsung for devices :smile:

https://youtu.be/uWu7O1VWYes?t=1m19s

Enjoy Android O in 2019.

No reason to upgrade at all still happy with my note 4 the features on this phone lack for the price i think tomorrow if my phone died i would just get a G4 why is this worth 4 times more its not can see these hitting £800 in a few years :smirk:

The battery life on this phone leaves alot to be desired, esp with that screen. £689! :neutral_face:

£700 is a ridiculous amount of money for any phone but apple rightly get more stick because their phones are mid range spec phones with old technology and features but still sold at silly prices. Whilst at least in samsungs defence they do have top spec products with the latest technology and features

never seen a deal on the hot page, that is below 100 degrees :laughing:

£689 for the S8 and £779 for the S8+ :neutral_face: Samsung have gone mad with greed

Let her buy her own 3310

£700 for a phone, that isn't even the top of the range model. Jaysus.

Will wait on the iPhone OLED this year will be much better and efficient like always better os that doesn't need octa cores and 571ppi gee.

Its only useful if you use it. I had the Samsung Note 5 and there was tons of stuff I 'could' do but realistically didn't have time to do. It made me no more productive then say my old BlackBerry Q10. Spec doesn't always equate to experience.

Far too much money for a phone. When did they become too expensive? I think anything over £300 is too much.

Except, Samsung provide more features and functionality for your money instead of removing them like Apple.
Samsung always have a better price/spec ratio in comparison with Apple.

It really makes little sense now to be 'up to date' with phones.

A Galaxy S6 for example is now incredible value, you would be hard pushed to justify the price tag of this phone against it.

The fact it also by default is set to 1080p for screen resolution should be a huge red flag for battery life.

Edit: Also - please stop using 12mp cameras! Seriously who enjoys shooting in 4:3 ratio. I know the camera is better for low light, but in daylight the S6 is still better, for night pictures just turn on the flash.

Countered by a 0.6 inch increase in screen size as well resolution. If you're lucky it'll have the same great stamina of the S7 otherwise it'll be one of supposed 'improvements' reserved S9.

can it explode? so i can get a free speaker :laughing:

I want an S8 but this is just RRP plus a crappy speaker that no one wants.

Why worry about your phone can last for a day or not... Just keep using your Note 4 with removable battery without worrying about battery low :smiley:

And you posted 4 deals and 57 comments in 5 and a half years?

Hopefully now this is out Oneplus will release their new phone (guessing it'll be the 5 as 4 is unlucky in China) powered by the same 835 processor, but with a price tag of about 50% less !

I'll wait till the iPhone 7s comes out, these phones always half in price 6 months later, when the iPhone comes out they'll be pushing this harder.

This times 100

That's the problem with phones. The cooler and lighter and more fragile they become, the more reason you have to use a case with it.

I had the same problem with my HTC M8 a few years ago. Looked gorgeous out of the box but the material it was made from made it scratch easily and was super slippy. So you pay extra for a sexy phone and end up putting it into a big rubber case.

That being said, I think the S8 looks like a good phone.

A few things are putting me off it.

First is battery life. All my friends who have the Samsung S6 or S7 complain about battery life and by the sounds of it they have kept down the "Slim is Sexy" route and forgot about the biggest problem with their phone.

Second is bloatware. One of the reasons battery and performance is affected is because Samsung put lots of annoying Samsung apps that cannot be removed.

Lastly is the fingerprint reader. Could they find a more awkward position?

I have a Google 6P and the the position of the fingerprint reader is perfect. If they removed the front hardware buttons they should have followed Google's lead or placed it on the power button.

Would rather get it direct from samsung for £669 using the code...speakers will probably be on ebay for £30 the week its released

as per trusted reviews samsung are saying that the battery will last all day forget the size thanks to the more efficient processor

Love the new design and screen, but the price is way too steep.
Looks like I will have to wait for OnePlus 4 (or 5?), I just hope the screen will be upgraded to 2k this time around.

Display is rendered at 1080p, so won't make much of a difference. With Samsung's advancements on AMOLED, I imagine this will still offer as good/better battery life than the S7 (which was still really good). I remember when the Note4 came out - the screen drew less power than the Note 3 display, even though the resolution was ~80 percent higher!

There is no difference in price now samsung and iPhone

where is the deal ?

It's just you :smile:

Is it just me or would anyone actually be bothered if phones were 2mm thicker and actually had decent batteries!? What's this obsession with being the worlds thinnist phone..... everyone whacks a massive case on them anyway lol

The LG G6 looks like it would be a better deal if you dont need the extra horsepower.

TouchWiz isn't just a homescreen lol...

id get this if it came with the gear vr, feel like it needs an accessory to make the price valid

I see all other countries get it free with the controller for preorders and the uk doesn't, we always get shafted here!

The flexibility of Android is you can pick & choose the gadgets of your choice. :wink:

Cheapest deal so far.Selling my s7 edge for the s8 plus version.Will be able to try one at work today where I work so be able to see what it's like.As for the samsung fire jokes its getting boring now.Just check the web and see the stories of the beloved iphone 7 setting fire but Apple are quick to put the flames out and the media quick discover for them.I personally have absolute faith in samsung and good on them for admitting they had a faulty phone something Apple would never do and probably accuse you of holding it wrong.Toyota were in the same position and recovered well and still produce better cars then Audi and bmw in reliability and customer satisfaction surveys.In all its peoples money let them spend it on what they like.My bills are paid and left over money and this is what I choose to spend my cash on.Enjoy

Hahaha, as expected.

At least iPhone has a completely different software, the S8 under the hood is just the same Android and is always slow to get the next android updates , way more overpriced. I might as well buy a Google Pixel or cheaper one plus 3T

they are jude your correct and i totally agree.unfortunately they have us by the short and curlys.if you want it you must pay thats the simple truth

yup

so would i and the sad thing is they depreciate. had my s7 edge less than a year since i brought it the phone has dropped 40%.still works both ways people wanting a s7 that couldnt afford them on release now there a bargain.apple are no different tho

thanks sloman

Is been Samsung Galaxy since the S3 to the current S7 Edge.

For me Samsung lots the plot is staying power after the S4, they just obsessed with new rather than perfect.

The S7 Edge is awesome but battery life is poor, updates are slow and I find the edge tricky to work with as you always inadvertently Touch the edge of the screen just holding the phone only resolved using a case.

The S8 has an even edgier screen so will be a nightmare to hold, Bixby I dunno if it's another S Voice disaster, desktop pc well I can screen mirror and use a BT Keyboard and do the same, battery size is the Samsung and they gave some Dreadful PR saying after a year S7 battery is out 80% good but wow the S8 will by 90 % - did I miss something or did they just admit the battery degrades 20% within a year !!!.

I might go for it on a contract deal with good Cashback.

Pre ordered 2 with Vodafone direct.

just been reading up on the zenfone might not even be released in the uk.right bummer was quite taken by it

That new one has disgusted me, the old one was awesome I've still got mine lol

your entitled to your opinion fire as am i lots on here complain also of samsungs breaking down etc etc and for them it may be the case.for me ive never had a single problem right through the range.however the phone that was suggested to me looks awesome and could be a viable alternative.brands like motorola lenovo i havent got a problem with.however xaomi and the likes where many complain that they can only get 3g and they only work on certain networks and bands in my opinion you might aswell throw your money down the drain or give it to charity.with samsung and ee im gauranteed to get 4g sometimes up to 60meg in big citys and ive got a top processor regular updates and always faultless.but you pay through the nose for this quality as do you with apple products

I'm still enjoying my OnePlus One (Chinese) which battery lasts throughout the day, and is incredibly fast. The camera is the only disappointing part in darker scenes but not worth upgrading as no other problems whatsoever. My family mainly have the higher spec Motorola phones and find them great, with one person going for the Lenovo P9 from a Samsung S5. The point being, all these phones are fantastic. As I am sure this one is - and I don't deny that. But to claim the Chinese phones or cheaper phones are poor or have a distinctly worse experience is fundamentally false. As the other person is hinting at, this is better (Or should be for £689!!!!), but it's not that much better.

I didn't start this conversation, I just felt the need to reply arguing that they for some weird reason break down quickly or have loads of faults. They don't catch fire either :smile: (Sorry! :stuck_out_tongue: )

recycling prices for s7 edge were 340 yesterday today the absolute best is 321 im expecting further price drops before s8 hits the shops

keep buying them then firefly i wont touch them with a bargepole

damn parra you was getting me all moist then

i wouldnt buy any chinese phone great specs or not even if your giving it to me for free.theres no support no updates yes your getting a lot cheaper phone but there made with inferior parts and they will probably give in within a week.im more than happy to buy off samsung i get everything i need and for me personally ultra reliability

amazing phone sinxa quality specs and a reputable company i would actually buy from these.im very very interested

No info though on a UK release

ill look sinxa but doubt it will sway me thanks for the reply btw

If you are going to spend this much on an android phone you will probably want better specs, you'd be best checking this out, double the specs for a lower price , oh and first phone with 8gb RAM ! https://www.asus.com/Phone/ZenFone-AR-ZS571KL/ The Samsung Ship has sailed (off the edge)

every post on here for chinese garbage is instantly cold save a bit more and buy quality

Honestly nearly £700 for a phone just doesn't cut it when I can get 80% performance from another phone at less than £200. Ridiculous.

Wow, 5.8"! Not sure my fingers would be long enough :smile:

Good move putting the fingerprint scanner on the back though. Works really well there on my Xiaomi (use the finger next to your thumb).

Stupid price. looks similar to s7 edge without the button.

Won't be once it starts exploding :smile::p

I had a nightmare with my 6p, kept turning off at about 20 percent battery. After a few returns they acknowledged a problem and gave me an s7 edge for free. Class phone and even though the battery is smaller it kicks the **** off my 6p

Because it is misleading and deceptive! TCB does not apply!

ooh im so excited i could wet my pantys

And as for the battery complaint, you need to be directing your anger to the major battery manufacturer's not towards phone manufacturers. Quick charge anyway has been a great innovation that helps a lot.

i dont give a crud about a 99 pound speaker that probably cost them about a 10er would have rather had the money off the handset

Noticed on terms for free speaker says valid on orders from tomorrow! Beware if you are ordering tonight

The GPU is part of the SoC...

it looks pretty ugly from the back...!!!

They should have just left the fingerprint scanner out all together instead of fitting it in a garbage place.

Frustratingly Companies improving every bit of mobile phones apart from Batteries,

689 quid? wow there's a 4k tv and some change or ps pros and ps vr and games or 3 xbox one s and games lol it must be made of gold lol

thats the way i read into it also.it seems that samsung almost gaurantee that the battery will last all day or at least there very bullish

by the way the apple post on here has a 150 pound discount and its freezing cold.apple will need to catch up or they will lose even more of the smartphone market.the samsung note fiasco is a distant memory

Anyone know of anywhere to grab one of these with a student discount card maybe? Looking to buy sim free but sounds like cashback may not qualify.

Comment edited.

mentioned on here before that the finger print sensor was supposed to be where the home key is on s7 but it was rumoured that they couldnt sort it out in time.and thyve had to put it on the back.thats a right gutter but hey ho

the phone is sex on wheels not much extra performance which is a downer to me but ive just got to have it.

In my experience with Samsung phones, the nifty sounding features they add in, like iris scanning, smart scroll, smart pause etc only work properly about 20% of the time - meaning they never get used. I'll never be fooled again.
Lovely hardware, no question - the best probably. Usually a lacklustre implementation - fingers crossed for this one.

GPUs generally don't get used much for day to day tasks.... but graphics intensive gaming does draw more power though

are all preorders eligible for free Gear VR ?
or not in UK ?

Looks awesome! Shame I got another year left to upgrade

HEAT. Slick phone, just watched the launch!

571ppi, 5.8" screen. 3000mah battery... Let's have a snowball fight in here. Cold.

heat missed the live feed but heat anyway been waiting sooooooooo long for this and they managed to do away with the home key which was under debate.

True, but it does generally draw more power. After all, companies do not double the GPU/CPU components due to the power drain on the battery (and heat sink issues). Chances are the battery will be very similar or 5-10% better than the S7. We will have to wait and see to be sure either way.

2 things about this comment:

Would it be bundled with it, if it couldn't use it.

Which ones? It's all relative.

Old one or new one.....?

​Performance improvement in GPU need not necessarily draw more power...

The S8 has a headphone jack and will come bundled with a pair of Harman AKG headphones worth £90

However they have increased the CPU/GPU workpower by 10-20%. So they save battery using 10nm, but likely some of that will be eaten up by the GPU/CPU changes.

Any fire extinguisher included in this price or I have to order it separately

Wife needs a new phone.... But £689....

Why don't they have the Arctic Silver? I thought there were 5 colours...

And so it begins...

Not bad! :stuck_out_tongue:

No idea why this is cold at the moment though.

On TCB is states £75 for "Samsung S8 & S8 Plus New Contracts and Upgrade Pre-Orders".

This is Sim Free so don't think it qualifies.