60Hz refresh rate is the standard rate for 99% of TV's on the market.

The claims of "100 / 200 / higher" hz are for interpolation rates, but the display is still refreshed at 60Hz.

See my post here: http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/sony-kdl-48wd655-48-full-hd-smart-tv-wi-fi-black-led-tv-2016-model-for-384-99-delivered-2458124?p=28138978

Quite simply, there are very few TFT TVs that can truly do over 60Hz. The few that can do true 120Hz often have small artifacts (Sony X850D for example). The number is minuscule : http://uk.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-usage/pc-monitor/best
That's just for 'true' 120Hz - there are no screens out there that can do 200Hz on a TV, nevermind anything higher. TFT tech just isn't there.

And here is the kicker: Most home users will never touch the settings which allow interpolation of images, because it looks pretty crap to the general user. They have limited use outside of sports and other fast footage.

60Hz isn't "weak" - It's the standard that you want. UK broadcasts are 50Hz. Bluray should be 24p. Nothing else matters for 99% of people.

It's great marketing though.

There is a lot of misconceptions about like 8-bit vs. 10-bit (doesn't matter for panels) and HDR Premium being 'true' HDR.

If you want to understand the HDR Technologies then I found this link to be pretty good:
http://www.lightillusion.com/uhdtv.html

Basically HDR is a new and expensive thing made up of half a dozen different technologies that every TV implements to a different extent. A current top of the range TV will implement some of them fully and some partially and as you go down the range support gets degraded.

It's not like 4K where a TV either has it or doesn't

The most expensive technologies like backlight dimming are the first to get simplified and then removed. When you come to a £400 TV like this all you've got left is the ability to read HDR content with no hardware difference from a non-HDR TV.

If you want something that looks like an HDR demo then you need to add another grand to your budget. The refurbished DX902 at £1200 is an excellent deal. If that's too much then Samsung's KS7000 is often considered a decent entry level model for HDR at £800.

If you want good HDR you either need to wait a few years or buy a high end TV. Spending £400 if you're buying a new TV because of HDR is a waste of time.

just bought this... not sure I needed it... I needed a 40" panel and bought a 49".. let's see if the room has become bigger in the mean time... damn you HUK deals...!! :smiley: luv this forum!

All 4K HRD TV's are not the same, basically there's HDR 'premium' with a set of standards they abide by and non premium that can take a HDR signal but not necessarily display it as a true HDR image, this TV is the latter.

bought this TV and it's great. however when watching live football there's a constant annoying flickering which i have no idea how to sort out. i've tried setting the sharpness to 0 but that hasnt solved it unfortunately. Anyone have any idea how to fix this?

therealjohnpeat seems very angry at being proven wrong, currently arguing with his reflection in a mirror.

The entire thing is quoted here and you still can't read it - if you must feel you're right tho, you go feel that by all means - no-one here gives one shiny **** what people who can't read, think...

Thank you :smiley:

That worked for the flickering on my PC too! Wasn't the cable, just that setting.

I read what you wrote in relation to this post and replied in that context, clearly you don't like being proven wrong, within the context of this deal.

Guessing this has expired as it is asking me to enter a lower number in the quantity box. I only want 1!

Isn't it best to get a Soundbar anyway ?

Why do no TV deals go very hot ?. Too much gimmickry and variety I suppose. For example i doubt there's really any difference between some £40 headphones and See beats etc.

Yes it does. It has one satellite port on the rear. :smiley:

You didn't read (or failed to understand) what I wrote.

You have NO LEGAL RIGHT to a refund on an item bought in a store unless it's faulty.

Some retailers have a refund policy (you posted the Argos one) - however they're not required to do that and therefore can set whatever rules they like for it (if they chose to exclude Ginger people or items with a Z in the name - they'd be fully within their rights to do that!!)

My point was that you have no legal right to return something bought in a store just because you no longer want it/it's cheaper elsewhere/you found a better deal (you CAN do that with items bought 'at a distance')

​Having the same issue here. In stock at my local store through the Argos website but cannot take advantage of the 10% off this way..

Twice I've went to buy this and both times its been OOS. I should take that as a sign not to get it.

good telly but sound is tinny .
I have just not got the sound settings right
??

Ok so i bought this yesterday at about 3pm ish. Wasn't in stock at my local store so paid for delivery.
Haven't had a shipping email yet.
Can anyone who paid for delivery let me know how long it took?

Try using a better HDMI cable, it solved the flickering for me, and I can finally connect it to a PC using 4k 60fps Full RGB.

I bought this yesterday, after using my Xbox One S in 4K UHD resolution with HDR enabled, i realised a slight flickering on the TV, which didn't appear when using 1080p, after playing around with the TV's setting, i found turning Sharpness to 0 stopped the flickering from appearing, this might help somebody else out too

Had this for going on a year now, paid £340, no regrets. Ambilight works best if you have a wall with colours same - preferably white - ie if it's in a corner like mine then both same colour walls, feature walls tend to detract from its effect. Can't go wrong at this price.

just ordered

If the source is a pc you can try this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251984330210

I've yet to order it as there are a number of different kits out there. This looks plug and play... ish...

Yeah ive purchased the tv not connected it to a ps4 but its worth it for the price

I don't think it quite works like that. You can DIY LED strips to the side of your TV but I don't think there are any that can replicate the onscreen colours as Ambilight does.

Yes, that's just common sense though.

Only if it's in unused, resaleable condition though.

Oh and before you jump on the 'most' point:


PS There are a few things we can’t do returns for, such as food and some jewellery (see FAQ below) unless of course they’re faulty. Naturally, none of this affects your consumer rights.

From Argos website:


Can I return it if there’s nothing wrong with it?

Absolutely! We offer a 30 day returns guarantee on most items. (We’re nice like that.)

So if you need to bring it back, just bring it back. Then we’ll either refund the cash onto the original payment method or offer you an exchange. Easy.

Err, no they're not.

You have no legal right to a refund on any item bought in a store UNLESS it's faulty - some stores offer refunds but they're not legally entitled to do that.

You have a right-of-return on goods bought 'at a distance' (Internet, Catalog, Phone or Mail Order) but NOT on anything bought from a retail store (the situation if you order online but collect from a store is a grey area as far as I can determine)

It did this last night and was then back in stock just after 9am, hopefully the same will happen tomorrow morning

I'm guessing oos as can't checkout on this. Can anyone confirm?

83cm

Can anyone who has this TV please tell me what the distance between the stand feet is?
Saw one website with the distance as 63cm and another said 83cm.
If it's 83cm the feet will be too wide to sit on my Sony soundbase so will need to buy some of those legs that attach to the Vesa wall mount screw holes.

Can colleague's use staff discount on this? Unsure with it being ebay

Prob stupid question but can I buy this with Argos vouchers I have

Would this work as a monitor for your computer?

Same here, can't even buy it now for collection or delivery from ebay but in stock in my local store :S

Frustrating my local store has stock but wont seem to show on ebay to collect from!

I keep reading 'once you go ambilight ' so now I'm going to diy ambilight onto my plasma. See what the fuss is about. The size of the bezel might impact the effect though

Won't let me order :S maybe OOS

Guys make sure you have latest firmware to fix any android 4k issues

http://www.philips.co.uk/c-p/49PUS6401_12/6000-series-4k-ultra-slim-tv-powered-by-android-tvtm-with-ambilight-2-sided-and-pixel-plus-ultra-hd/support

brilliant TV... when the android part is not playing up. Every so often I'll get "Unfortunately *insert ANY android app name here* has stopped working". Press OK to get rid of the message and a few seconds later it pops up again, no amount of rebooting, cache clearing, updating fixes it. It just seems to be random and it'll go away eventually. Apart from that, the picture quality is excellent *for the price*, the connectivity is all you could want and the selection of apps and smarts is 2nd to none. Just hoping one day they release a stable android-tv update for it.
As someone else noted, once you go ambilight you won't go back. Apparently it can link up with Philips Hue bulbs too but I don't have any to test that yet.

add to basket, step through to checkout and add voucher code C10ARGOS in voucher section
try it, there is a check box to confirm payment, so no worries about paying before code is checked working for you

Just ordered myself, on checkout select vouchers and you can pop the code in there, worked fine for me

can this be returned to store once collected if you dont like it?

How do you add the code on eBay?

My Philips TV still going strong, had it 7 and half years, I get so tempted with these TV offers though, must resist not to buy for sake of buying.

I can confirm this does have Freesat.

Found this review - https://hdtvpolska.com/philips-pus6401-test-android-tv-ultra-hd-4k/ (Need google chrome to translate though) :stuck_out_tongue:

Very detailed and tells recommended settings, might be useful for some of you.

But they don't light up in correspondence with the colours on the TV. :disappointed:

If you want a nice glow behind your existing TV, check out LED strip lights on Amazon. You can buy 5 meters of lights for around £17.

It's pretty much always enabled by default and most people's who's TVs I've seen have this turned on (I assume without even realising it, as they're people that can barely use the remote in the first place, nevermind change these settings).

Anything over 60Hz is simulated any way when it comes to TVs.

same :smile:

just bought this... not sure I needed it... I needed a 40" panel and bought a 49".. let's see if the room has become bigger in the mean time... damn you HUK deals...!! :smiley: luv this forum!

Nice , cheap and cheerful, heat added, not the best quality as stated previous, but you have to pay premium prices for top quality or wait a few years and pick one up, but then there will be a new 8k/16k what ever they Manufacture next , personally don't need it , don't think i'll ever pay 4 figures for a Tv again thou so Heat added for being under £400

Philips - but I have this in 55" so am biased :smiley:

Err, yes they are.

Yes

Excellent, thanks. Heat and ordered

Does anyone know what the returns policy is like? If collecting in store, can it be returned in store?

This or Hisense H50M3300? Ignoring the 1 inch difference!

Slight snag is you're not legally entitled to a refund if you bought in a store - just saying...

can this be un-expired? Back in Argos ebay stock today.

Back in normal stock today on ebay, don't have to go the store route

It doesn't allow you to buy it now or put in basket though when the quantity is 1 or more

It appears that way but even when there is stock showing you still can't add it I'm afraid

still available when you select the store collection option
Obviously depends on your area, but there is availability in Bolton, Oldham, Salford, Cheetham Hill - Manchester etc

No i tried that, they have definitely gone

So I've got a bargain basement 4k Finlux TV that I've yet to actually watch anything in 4k on. If I buy a ps pro for watching/playing 4k am I still going to notice difference versus 1080p even though it doesn't have HDR? Thanks

Perhaps they'll restock, Argos.co.uk still showing plenty.

This doesn't seem to work either

D'oh!

They had 100 available on the listing and they are all now sold.

Also noticed that this is on Argos site (not ebay site). Is it the same TV as it has a slightly different model number? Philips 49PUS6401 49 Inch SMART 4K Ultra HD TV with HDR to the one on their ebay site which is Philips 49PUS640112

Tried to buy it but says 'Please enter a quantity of 0 or less'. Any ideas? Shows that I can pick one up from my local Argos too but can't add and complete purchase.

I have this TV, (last time HUKD in December was on). Love it. And t's a great picture, and the back lighting is great. :smiley: Heat

No. It's only HD ready. It has 4K and HDR though.

Thanks for putting me of buying, was so close, had my card ready too lol

Is this full hd ?

You can select store under Postage and Payments

How

Available for collection

sold out..

got the 55inch version a couple of weeks ago. good tv for the money but blacks and viewing angles are bad...the light is always shining a bit too brightly through the back. thought mine was faulty initially but went to argos to see the one on display had the same issue. kept it but my im disappointed everytime a dark scene is on

Sorry I don't know although I have TV, it has a satellite connection on the back so I presume it has but I don't have anything to plug in to test it.

I have the 43in version of this because that is the size of the TV cupboard in the bedroom and i could not get any bigger in, but i can tell you, you will not be dissapointed in the 4k, the HDR gaming or the Tv's features, and the same price as my 43in tv, a bargain at that price, compared to the silly prices they want for those 10bit panels.

And for pc gamers the Tv is a utter joy, steam on big scream on 4k (assuming you have the card and cpu), is simply awesome, Alien: Isolation has to be seen in 4k to be believed.

Heat.

I agree the colours are maybe a but more colourful than real life but I haven't even tried to change the settings as I actually like the bold colourful settings. Greens are greener, reds are redder etc but I think it adds to this wow look at that.

I never quite understand the issues people have about Blacks on TV's, maybe I have different eyes and I can see if a screen is filled with black it has a light grey tinge to it. But how often is a screen filled with blacks? I watch this TV in amazement and if someone has a black jumper on it shows as dark black. Its not my usual gaming TV but I plugged in old xbox one to test and was blown away with colours again. Great gaming TV imo.

oos?

I got this for about £345 (5% quido offer on top) when last offer was on but this is still great price. Its a bargain even if it was £445. Blown away with the colors on this TV, brilliant for gaming too. Had it for about a month now and me and my wife both still say "look at the picture on that" when watching HD channels. I spent ages reviewing TV's worrying about if I was getting a 10 bit panel as we already had a Philips 4k 43" (non ambi) in lounge which we planned to move to bedroom and have new TV in lounge so wanted an improvement. We ended up with this one in bedroom as test and now don't want to move it so would love another one for lounge as it seems so much better.( i was originally chuffed with 4k 43" Philips but this is another level)

Ambilight is also great, I didn't buy it for that but as others have said I don't think I will buy a TV without one again. Really works well. I was waiting for this to be around £350 again or for offer to come on 55" although I'm not sure if that is too big as this thing is massive. Its amazing the difference between 43" and 49". It looks so much bigger than an extra 6 Inches.

I don't usually comment on Hotdeals but that how good I think this TV is for the money.

Thanks for this, I'll try it when I get home tonight.

Another thing Ill mention is that with this TV is, it is possible to "boot" straight into a App, therefore making it your "Home (button)" app. This is quite useful for Plex/Kodi as a primary front end over Android TV's leanback launcher.

this TV has no black colour - I am so disappointed. Good for playing/watching during day light, but in the evening it is just disaster. My (nearly 8years) sony 32 inches is far better. Apart from this issue everything else is just great - no complaints. Hope this helps :smiley:

I know what you mean, the studio filmed telly like Ant & Dec prog can look a bit bold and bright, yet soaps etc look fine. I mostly use the day setting, which IIRC the day setting does +2 the magenta, so this may be a factor. Other tvs in the house exhibit similar pq on live studio progs, so it may be down to how they light the studios too/white balance/colour balance ?

Yes you can definitely extend to Hue bulbs :smiley:

Can anyone confirm if this has freesat? I think I read it somewhere but can't remember where.

Yes and TPV use LG panels. This TV is no Vestel. I have this TV and its decent.

Good post.

People getting far too hung up on the HDR thing. If youre on a budget it isnt worth worrying about!

I have this set and its hard to beat for 380 quid especially if you love ambilight. 4k Youtube/Amazon/Netflix looks great. Sky HD looks great and PS4 looks great. The Android interface is fine, even the speakers are half decent!

Did you not find the AVForum's 6501 settings a little dark and red for this set?

After I set it to their recommended ASF Day & Night, I found that anyone in a studio had looked like they'd just spent 2 weeks in the sun! And the Reds were very bold indeed.

Is that model running Firefox OS? I nearly bought one running FF but couldn't get any sense out of Panasonic about Mozilla ending support and the future of the OS..

Ended up with a Samsung KU6470 which I'm struggling to bond with..

I bought this the last time it was on offer. TV and OS is great, love the Ambilight, bit of a gimmick yes but it is quite nice. Only downside is the Audio is extremely poor, lack of bass. Sent it back for this reason as I like the TV for Spotify and it just wasn't worth it as you'd need a sound bar or external speakers.

Same price as AO 50 inch Hisense - not a lot between them I don't think

Philips TV division in Europe is run by TPV who are another display company best known for AOC monitors. They do make a full range of TVs with their higher end models like the PUS7601 and POS901 getting good reviews for picture quality. They're not just a stack 'em high, sell 'em cheap company like Vestel.

I'd be a bit surprised if this model was made by TCL since I thought TPV had enough capacity to make sets for other manufacturers.

If you've got one of the higher quality plasmas then I'd definitely hold off another five years until either full HDR or OLED arrives at this price.


A few years ago manufacturers were marketing 'effective' refresh rates which was the actual images per second multiplied by a made up number based on how much motion processing the TV has. That's mostly stopped now.

nomnom is slightly overstating things when he says there are very few TVs that can do it. All high end TVs tend to be 100/120hz with the occasional 200/240hz. The LG UH770 is a relatively cheap 100/120hz panel for example.

What is rare is the ability to accept a 100hz signal from an external source, but as video is never produced at such a high frame rate that's generally only an issue for PC usage.

As video never goes above 60hz you don't need a fast panel to reproduce it accurately. It can help as it allows more processing, but it's much more about the quality.

This may be quite important for some of you, as a recent ex-owner ... great TV but an important part of it is Android TV(its normal "home screen") , and that just keeps crashing when used frequently(e.g. apps like YouTube) - which means rebooting the TV. I now have Android TV, which I use a lot, on a Mi Box 4K and it's rock solid - also Mi Box has voice activated search through the remote which is very important, Philips remote means typing everything. Philips need to sort out Android stability(unfortunately there have been comments on this issue going back a long time on developer forums).

I went from a 46" Panny Plasma to a 55" OG OLED panel. No regrets at all. Picture better in all areas and it runs cooler and quieter.

Amazingly the frameless OLED cabinet is only 2" bigger, despite a 9" bigger screen size.

Thanks, best to keep what i have then!

My friend has got a Philips 55PUS6401. I was very impressed by it.
Also from what I can see online you can extend Ambilight to HUE lightbulbs.
When more 4k content will be avalible in the UK and I figure out what to reply with to my wife when she asks why we needed a new TV, then the 55PUS6401 most likely would be my choice.

​No ambilight, no "4K". Well done...

Ahhh, fair! Even so, ye, it sounds like you've got a dodgy piece of kit there as mine is lightning. I'd update the firmware as another guy suggested to see if that helps.

I'll see if there is another firmwire available to update too. I also used the 6501 settings on AV forums alongside the THX tune up app but I just feel like the TV lacks when it comes to motion and dark scenes.

Yeah, same model. I don't mean a physical keyboard I mean a software one, one that pops up when you need to input text.

Just bought this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/351934397834 , Panasonic DS500B 49 Inch Full HD Smart LED TV. Currently £120 off + 10% £314.10

I have the 55" model and am very happy with it
there is a new firmware update available from march 2017, which also updates android version
avforums set-up for 6501 model gives good pic (imo)
that q press on search is annoying, but I bought a usb wireless keyboard off ebay for £7 ...problem solved (will also control tv and has a mouse pad)
4k on a usb stick (and 4k off youtube) plays fine and PQ is very good (imo) no motion blur watching skysports

Might give this a go

Made by TCL... I'm still on panny GT60 plasma, as I'm not so desperate for 4K but would never consider Philips or Hisense as a replacement... you need to spend much more mate

Are you sure you've got the same model as this one? I've got this exact TV and it didn't come with a keyboard, nor am I experiencing any of the issues you've said in your post. The Android software is lightning quick and has never crashed once.

I'd check your model number with this one, just to be sure, but may even be an issue with your TV as I can't recommend it enough to people.

Is this a proper phillips or a vestel or other product in disguise? Any comparisons with the hisense? Coming from a panny plasma I'm cautious lol!

Bought this TV around January (£~409) and I really don't like it, trying desperately to get rid of it.

Here's my faults with it, some are directed at Android TV and not the hardware.

The ambilight was nice, however I barley notice it now, and think I may even prefer watching TV without it - however it does seem to "bring out" the colours more when viewing. Yes, I realise this is more of an opinion. (It also lacks a wider range of wall colours for the ambilight to be set against)

The Android TV software I'm sure is great on faster setups. However it is infuriating slow on this, and crashes alot.

Laggy transitions between opening apps and even using basic functions like switching sources or accessing the settings menu sometimes works, sometimes takes a good 5 seconds, sometimes just doesn't happen and sometimes the TV just reboots.

The keyboard is extremely annoying, it defaults to google voice, which this TV does not support, and when you switch to the keyboard input and select it, you end up inputing letter q which you have to delete. You also cannot scroll background results while the keyboard is open.

The out of box picture is terrible with over blown colours and contrast. The way to get an acceptable picture is switching to the movie preset and sorting through some settings, which can take quite alot of time as it not possible to "preview" your adjustments on the fly as it stops playback when in the settings menu (if using anything other than live TV). You are also missing any sort of meaningful description for some settings.

Lightbleed in the corners of the TV are bad and obstructs any dark scences.

Any motion on the screen produces blur/tearing, even applying the software options to fix this don't work. This can cause quite alot of strain on the eye, and can become quite irratating.

The majority of 1080p/4K content that is displayed ends up being low fps, even if the source is higher.

The sound is lacking any low range and fails to create any impact with any sound that isn't speech.

In addition to this Amazon 4K UHD is ALWAYS out of sync, and I find it impossible to fix even using the built in in audio offset sliders.

- After a month of having this the Ambilight started flickering. I was in contact with philips support and they said it was a software bug because I updated the TV and didn't delete the old software. I knew it was hardware related because if I tapped the side of the TV it would fix it until a few minutes later it would happen again, suggesting a cable was loose. Philps were adament it was a software problem even after I followed their steps and told them that it was hardware. I ended up taking the TV apart myself and reseating the ribbon cable for one of the LED strips. Seems like I am not the only one with this problem after looking on forums.

Having said all this, this doesn't seem a bad TV for the price. You do get alot of "built" in features for the price, just don't expect it to be in any part quality - apart from the stand.

I've had this TV for 6 months and its great.. Sports look crisp and smooth (In HD) for anybody asking, colours are vivid, blacks are (You guessed it) black.. Everyone keeps going on about HDR bla bla bla.. If you want a 49 inch TV that outputs 4K with a picture that looks great with loads of features for less than £400 you're in the right place. If you don't give a monkeys about refresh rates and how many 'bits' the panel has you will be happy just as i am, watching sports and movies on a lovely screen like any other normal person wants to.

Clearly states single use on the Argos ebay home page

Relax brother, im not flamming your deal, its a great price and i was really thinking about buying one, see my post above. I'm no expert but ive been trying to fnd out the specs on this before purchased. 60hz seemed weak but nomnonnom seems to think it's industry standard

Hmmm interesting, i didn't know that i always thought 200hz is what to be looking out for especially when watching sports as it produced a smoother picture?

Even if I've opened and started using it?

I'm trying to explain to them on chat to simply arrange the £70 refund to save us all the hassle! :smiley:

Edit: Update, they're sending me £73 by cheque, so happy with that.

60Hz refresh rate is the standard rate for 99% of TV's on the market.

The claims of "100 / 200 / higher" hz are for interpolation rates, but the display is still refreshed at 60Hz.

See my post here: http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/sony-kdl-48wd655-48-full-hd-smart-tv-wi-fi-black-led-tv-2016-model-for-384-99-delivered-2458124?p=28138978

Quite simply, there are very few TFT TVs that can truly do over 60Hz. The few that can do true 120Hz often have small artifacts (Sony X850D for example). The number is minuscule : http://uk.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-usage/pc-monitor/best
That's just for 'true' 120Hz - there are no screens out there that can do 200Hz on a TV, nevermind anything higher. TFT tech just isn't there.

And here is the kicker: Most home users will never touch the settings which allow interpolation of images, because it looks pretty crap to the general user. They have limited use outside of sports and other fast footage.

60Hz isn't "weak" - It's the standard that you want. UK broadcasts are 50Hz. Bluray should be 24p. Nothing else matters for 99% of people.

It's great marketing though.

I bought this a few days ago when the RRP was £499 but used the Code to buy online at £449

Are Argos likely to give me a refund now this has dropped within a couple of days?

You're forgetting that many people, especially on here, only care about being able to tell their neighbours that they have a "4k HDR" TV. Whether they can see it isn't so important. Like having a high megapixel camera, kinda pointless when the lens is crap.

Decent TV for the price, can tell the legs were an afterthought. Why not have them in the middle?!

60hz refresh rate is weak

This TV also can't display HDR properly as it only has an 8 bit panel, it's physically impossible for it to do it properly.

http://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/09d4444

Code worked for me.

Spec of the TV: http://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/09d4444

Wow thats just low , my experience and the other person who was decived wss from normal argos delivery it was avforums too, i wont be buying expensive stufc with them anymore no matter how cheap, may be ill get everyday stuff that wont lead me to a loss that too if there is no other option

if I've got this correct annoyingly the 43" is more expensive, 49" too big for us. heat for the deal.

Great deal!
Not as cheap as it was on the last Argos TV deal a month ago, it was £359 back then, but right now £386 is the best anywhere.
Here was the last deal
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/philips-49pus6401-49-inch-smart-4k-ultra-hd-tv-with-hdr-359-10-with-code-tv10-argos-2625648

For me 49" is a bit too big for the room, I'm hoping a deal will come up on the 43" model for around £300 ! Then I can sync it with my hue lights :smiley:

just tried the code and it was not accepted .... but I used the code yesterday on another purchase... perhaps it is a one time only code

There is a lot of misconceptions about like 8-bit vs. 10-bit (doesn't matter for panels) and HDR Premium being 'true' HDR.

If you want to understand the HDR Technologies then I found this link to be pretty good:
http://www.lightillusion.com/uhdtv.html

Basically HDR is a new and expensive thing made up of half a dozen different technologies that every TV implements to a different extent. A current top of the range TV will implement some of them fully and some partially and as you go down the range support gets degraded.

It's not like 4K where a TV either has it or doesn't

The most expensive technologies like backlight dimming are the first to get simplified and then removed. When you come to a £400 TV like this all you've got left is the ability to read HDR content with no hardware difference from a non-HDR TV.

If you want something that looks like an HDR demo then you need to add another grand to your budget. The refurbished DX902 at £1200 is an excellent deal. If that's too much then Samsung's KS7000 is often considered a decent entry level model for HDR at £800.

If you want good HDR you either need to wait a few years or buy a high end TV. Spending £400 if you're buying a new TV because of HDR is a waste of time.

There is yeah, £579 at Argos. Search for 538/9805 :smiley:

couldn't recommend this TV enough.. also can install KODI directly on TV via Google play.. bye bye netflix

Hmm i'm quite tempted here...

Has anyone got the code to work? It shows the discount until I log into paypal...

Has anyone got the code to work? It shows the discount until I log into paypal...

The set I had off them wasn't from an eBay site it was from the local store Merry Hill and was new/unopened. So can't comment on their eBay stuff. The Panasonic sound bar off their site did say refurbished and came in repackaged plain box with about a mile of bubble wrap and all accessories and manuals and was unmarked. luck of the draw when buying anything refurbished but what a saving in price!!

And if you leave them negative feedback they block you from buying again on their ebay store.

Heat for the deal great price , how ever be very careful with Argos they have been well known to repack send cusmtomer/faulty returns as new alwayd check packaging on delivery some one posted a pic they had delivered with missing screws i thimk on s tv, :confused: , i havent had a Tv like this but i had a pressure cooker that was delivered that was used and re packed it even had mouister inside they had usesd an outside box to hide it too

This is an amazing TV and I bit the bullet after seeing it on here from Argos a couple of weeks ago! it replaced an 11 year old panny plasma and it exceeded my expectations for a budget set. I experimented with the settings but couldn't improve on the "out of the box" set up. To my eye the picture was equal to that of the double the price sets claiming the latest 10 bit bla bla ultra stuff!! I just watch standard TV in Old fashion HD. get one if you can.
At this price get a quality sound bar with your change as the speakers aren't great. The one posted a couple of weeks ago here for a refurbished Panasonic was perfect. Incidentally the Ambilight feature on the TV is really good.

Has anyone got the code to work? It shows the discount until I log into paypal...

The 6401 is 100hz compared to the 6501 which is 200hz

The 6401 has 8gb storage compared to the 6501 which has 16gb storage

Quite abit of difference on the specs, watching sport on a 100hz wouldn't produce the best quality smooth picture im guessing

Bought this when it was £399 18 days ago and used code TV10 to get 10% off (code expired) It's a great TV and works brilliantly with PS Plus/4K Netflix

Cheap TV is cheap. Yay for the cheap TV :smiley:

I've got this TV, this is a great deal.

​yeah iv been reading a few bits on here when a TV deal gets posted and no matter how much I read it's a confusing thing This hdr business haha thanks though buddy.

All 4K HRD TV's are not the same, basically there's HDR 'premium' with a set of standards they abide by and non premium that can take a HDR signal but not necessarily display it as a true HDR image, this TV is the latter.

Anyone get the code applied?

I have just bought a PS4 pro and I am looking for a decent hdr TV is this any good. if anyone could let me know would really appreciate it thanks

Removing heat as code doesn't work

I have the 55" version and love it. The recent update stabilises everything and adds HDR to Netflix. Once you go ambilight you won't go back. Rastafari is the almighty.

Code?

Hope it's better than the Sony android equivalent

Code doesn't work

Seems a pretty good deal. Decent brand and has a cool gimmick, sub 400 for a 49inch 4k...heat from me!