There are almost no circumstances under which the "quality" of electrical wiring will vary. It's all 2.5mm Twin and Earth, which is either connected or not, and if it was temperamental or intermittent, you'd have more issues than internet connectivity across power line adaptors.
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ihatebingo
23 Mar 17#1
the techs will soon let you know zizzles.for the purposes of this post im voting hot.brought similar ethernet adaptors and can honestly say its the best bit of kit ive ever brought.these are a great price by the way.heat added :stuck_out_tongue:
oliverhussick
23 Mar 17#2
Good kit, and not a bad price, albeit not the best. Paid £25 back in November, but they're probably worth the extra fiver for the current price too.
scottsargeant
23 Mar 17#3
Good kit. Good price.
Shakeyyy
23 Mar 17#4
Solid kit, worth every penny. But the connection is only as good as your electrical wiring!
ihatebingo to Shakeyyy
23 Mar 171#6
agree shakey i have 60meg fibre running multiple items was getting about 20 meg through wifi.got some different ones off cpc posted on here.now getting 60+through ethernet into lappy from the plug socket.these are just amazing.but agree does all depend on your wifi etc
oliverhussick to Shakeyyy
23 Mar 173#11
There are almost no circumstances under which the "quality" of electrical wiring will vary. It's all 2.5mm Twin and Earth, which is either connected or not, and if it was temperamental or intermittent, you'd have more issues than internet connectivity across power line adaptors.
3guesses
23 Mar 171#5
No pass-through 8-(
Smartguy1
23 Mar 17#7
Are these wireless as well as if not then how are these going to improve my signal in rooms farthest from my router for devices which don't have an ethernet socket, e.g. tablet, phone, laptop etc.
cheekster to Smartguy1
23 Mar 171#9
No wifi built into these particular homeplugs but there are other models that do. EdiMax do a pair which I tested for example.
ihatebingo to Smartguy1
23 Mar 17#10
smartguy if you have no ethernet ports on comp etc im sure that you can get adaptors that plug into the usb just found some on fleabay there about 4 pounds.good luck chap def buy them youll be amazed
ihatebingo
23 Mar 17#8
just done some reading up for you smartguy.there the same as mine you plug one adaptor into a plug near the router.then you plug it into the router via etherenet cable.then say your upstairs and the router is downstairs.plug the other adaptor into say the plug near your laptop in the bedroom plug in the other ethernet cable and it mimmicks the same speed upstairs as you would be getting into your router.there absolutely amazing trust me
ihatebingo
23 Mar 17#12
good point oliver and totally agree
Smartguy1
23 Mar 17#13
Thanks to you guys who replied. I know about wifi adapter / repeaters. My router is in my living room, back of the tv. I have 75mbps fibre but on wifi in the back bedroom I am lucky to get 1mbps so am trying to improve the signal in the bedroom. I know about wifi repeaters / extenders / access point. I am quite good at setting wireless things up although after trying about 3 hours with a Billion access point I gave up. It would appear I am not on my own where billion access points are concerned. Ideally I was looking for a combined home plug with wireless access point so I could plug one into the router and the other in my bedroom where I could connect to the bedroom powerline wirelessly with my phone, tablet or laptop. My laptop doesn't have an ethernet socket. I was thinking that powerline adapters will give me a better speed compared to strategically placed access point. Worst case scenario is I will just run an ethernet cable into the loft and put an access point in the loft but didn't want to go to that trouble if there was an easier solution.
Vomit to Smartguy1
24 Mar 17#15
You can get them, go to Amazon and put in 'powerline wifi' plenty to choose from.
FallenAzazel to Smartguy1
24 Mar 17#25
Heya. We have a similar setup over long distance in house. We have these power line adapters to the back and a tp link wifi router cabled into it using the connection as the router uplink. I just set the dns etc to the main modem/router downstairs (a billion lol) and it works great. Have 80mbs into house and have 60mbs at back of house now with cable connection from pc to tplink but also 45+ on wifi
GwanGy
24 Mar 171#14
yOU CAN GET other models similar to this which not only have an ethernet port but also a wi-fi boradcaster , which will act as a stronger better signal for your wifi gear. I have similar to this but mine has three ethernet ports on the payload end as well as being passthru. I didnt know whther the three ethernet ports plug would act as a switch but it does , which is great.
CouchPotatoe
24 Mar 172#16
It's not so much the 'quality' that varies but the basic structure of your home wiring. Multiple ring mains for example or other 'noisy' appliances on the same ring. Both these severely impact the throughput or can make them not work at all
Valheru
24 Mar 17#17
Can you mix and match powerline adapters makes? For example a tp link one next to my router feeding the house the connection through the electric but netgear and tp link adapters in other rooms?
HotUKDude to Valheru
24 Mar 17#18
In theory yes you can however the quickest power line adaptor will only run as fast as the slowest one.
Hope that makes sense.
HUKD
yanick
24 Mar 17#19
The 1000 Mbps version is a fiver cheaper; anyone know if there is much of a real world difference between the two?
(I currently have a pair of 200 Mbps and I really get about 40-50 Mbps from the router to the other powerline adaptor in the office).
HotUKDude to yanick
24 Mar 17#23
For the sake of £5 I'd go with the faster of the 2.
HUKD
royals to yanick
24 Mar 17#28
The 1000 one is complaint to older standard Homeplug AV
The 1200 one is compliant to Homeplug AV2 which is latest standard you need
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HomePlug
Both have gigabit network cards which is where i despair with these networking companies. They quote 1200 mpbs for the 1200 one which is impossible as it has a gigabit nic so 1000mpbs is the theoretical max.
When i challenged netgear a few years ago i was told by speed is calculated using download and upload speeds, which is nonsense. Thats like saying an Audi S3 can do 310 mph and not the stated 155mph because it can do 155mph in either direction. Total nonsense.
How no-one has challenged them under the trade descriptions act is beyond me.
Price has dropped to this price in Maplin, Currys and PC World and some Ebay sellers.
canishu
24 Mar 17#21
you are right in what you are saying but that's not what Shakeyyy was talking about.
you are confusing LAN speed with internet speed. point to point this should be 1Gb speed so if you have something like a NAS for streaming on your network you would get 1Gb. but if you have poor electric wiring in the house, then that speed will drop.
pangeakiller
24 Mar 171#22
I get around 20-40 Mbps with this model in my house. Tried various different rooms and points. 1200 Mbps is just a joke and all the manufacturers should get sued for such blatant lies.
Valheru
24 Mar 17#24
Thanks dude.
ihatebingo
24 Mar 17#26
thanks for the reply canishu
royals
24 Mar 17#27
Eh, what are you on about?
Poor quality cabling eg older buildings that havent had new wiring are unlikely to see good results with powerlines
Poor quality connections
Poor quality plug sockets
Different ring circuits
Other radio wave transmissions can affect your home plug network - up to 100m away
Distance is a factor too as the signal will degrade further it needs to go
Smartguy1
24 Mar 17#29
I seen them now thank you.
Smartguy1
24 Mar 17#30
Thanks, that's what I was thinking of doing. I have some spare routers since I got fibre so may try and set one up as an access point plugged into a powerline adapter. I have a set of old adapters given to by my isp so will try with them and see what sort of speed i get
Smartguy1
24 Mar 171#31
Looks like they can say what they like by using different parameters. It's no different to tv manufacturers saying their tv's are 200Hz-1000Hz when in reality they are just 100Hz tv's measured by the old methods. They have done the same with sound output as well. There is a recent post for an LG NB3540 soundbar which states its 320 watts. Someone posted that on the back of the sub woofer the speaker is actually 40 watts and the soundbar speakers are 10 to 15 watts. No wonder just a soundbar on it's own doesn't sound any different to my LG tv. Go any buy a Warburtons Toastie loaf. Supposed to be thicker than thick slice bread but is actually thinner than Kingsmill medium sliced. And have you noticed the word small is now missing from our food items. When I go get a pizza I am offered medium or large. Hang on a minute. In order to class something as medium should there not be a smaller option. Its happening with everything. Look at Netgears Nighthawk router, another one of my interests. It claims 1900 AC but in reality it's a split channel router of 1300 and 600 so it's not 1900AC at all, it's 1300AC.
serboom
25 Mar 17#32
better than wifi, not as good as wired directly
imagineS
25 Mar 17#33
Anyone looking for power line adapters stick to net gear over tplink. Tp link are awful. I got the 500 nano one of them went dead. Replacement from tp link they sent me older model full of dirt. Complained and they sent out correct model but get random disconnections or shall I say lock up
bbfb123
26 Mar 17#34
I can't seem to find the reviews but I was reading about these adapters and people kept saying the connection was terrible and kept dropping out. Does anyone who owns these adapters have any experience with this?
I'm also in need of 3 of these adapters but nowhere seems to sell these in packs of three. anyone know how I'd source another spare adapter?
thanks
yanick
27 Mar 17#35
Thank you both for the replies. I did not know about their use of different standards; I agree buying the latest would make more sense :-)
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Hope that makes sense.
HUKD
(I currently have a pair of 200 Mbps and I really get about 40-50 Mbps from the router to the other powerline adaptor in the office).
HUKD
The 1200 one is compliant to Homeplug AV2 which is latest standard you need
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HomePlug
Both have gigabit network cards which is where i despair with these networking companies. They quote 1200 mpbs for the 1200 one which is impossible as it has a gigabit nic so 1000mpbs is the theoretical max.
When i challenged netgear a few years ago i was told by speed is calculated using download and upload speeds, which is nonsense. Thats like saying an Audi S3 can do 310 mph and not the stated 155mph because it can do 155mph in either direction. Total nonsense.
How no-one has challenged them under the trade descriptions act is beyond me.
http://www.netgear.co.uk/compare.aspx?cid=wmt_netgear_organic
you are confusing LAN speed with internet speed. point to point this should be 1Gb speed so if you have something like a NAS for streaming on your network you would get 1Gb. but if you have poor electric wiring in the house, then that speed will drop.
Poor quality cabling eg older buildings that havent had new wiring are unlikely to see good results with powerlines
Poor quality connections
Poor quality plug sockets
Different ring circuits
Other radio wave transmissions can affect your home plug network - up to 100m away
Distance is a factor too as the signal will degrade further it needs to go
I'm also in need of 3 of these adapters but nowhere seems to sell these in packs of three. anyone know how I'd source another spare adapter?
thanks
Thank you both for the replies. I did not know about their use of different standards; I agree buying the latest would make more sense :-)