A bit of an unusual beast this. They describe it as a gaming machine, but the 960M doesn't quite justify that - but at £610 I don't think you are going to find much better with a proper quad core Skylake Core i7. If you need the processing power in a portable box it looks like a decent option.
There's room for an M.2 SSD if you want one and it is standard DDR4 2133MHz laptop memory if you want to expand that later on, but obviously that's going to jack the total price up. Not bad if you can't afford to do it all in one go though.
It's not going to be to everybody's taste, but I can't see anything better for the same money at the moment.
If anybody can do better for around £600 (or even less if possible) please do let me know as I'm on the lookout for a decent laptop for a local charity where they are going to be doing some 1080p video promotional work. Thanks.
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zzak to alhambra7
8y3#33
You don't have this laptop then as this does not have that spec.
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towan
8y#1
Hot, very weird combo though, probably best as a portable video-editing machine but doesn't come near to today's gaming requirements.
slayermatt to towan
8y1#4
Really do question the use of a 960 in a system with a skylake processor and DDR4 But looks alright for the money either way even if you'd like a bit of light gaming. 960m was perfectly adequate if you dont mind dropping the resolution or graphic settings a notch
PulisOut
8y#2
Well hot this, was looking for this 3 months go :-(
Musicrab
8y#3
Would be nice - with an SSD - which they seem to agree with - "it has an unused M.2 slot which you can use to build in an SSD and you have one powerful machine. "
Spod
8y#5
It looks like the model number is MSI GL62 6QF-635NL - does anybody know if the NL means it is a Netherlands model?
towan
8y1#6
Definitely a capable gaming machine; I could have added a few more things to my original post to make it clearer but you've seemed to have covered everything for me
brilly
8y2#7
whats odd about it? it came out last year and as such has last gen components
was decent at the time and still fine now, especially for the money
Bilbo1968 to brilly
8y#9
Never gonna be good enough for all the armchair critics on here.
philb100
8y#8
Tempted want a decent laptop for graphics work. what are Ibood like I've
never used them?
TANDY
8y#10
No SSD which amazon are selling for a bit more, great laptop though.
simonsayz13
8y1#11
How good is the price boys?
PauloCot
8y#12
Been looking for something like this, might go for it.
Is it DDR4 or DDR3 RAM? Alludes to both. Also, anyone know if backlit keyboard?
Have been looking at one on Amazon for £850 - MSI looks similar, i7-7700HQ, 16GB DDR4 and has an SSD. Interested to know which people prefer out of this and the one here.
Burnz0 to PauloCot
8y1#17
Just priced up the RAM and the SSD, RAM would be about £50 and a 128GB SSD would be about the same (so £100 to match the spec). You're a generation behind, but you're saving over £100 by getting this one over the £850. It depends how much you value the supplier, and how much you care about the latest tech. The difference in CPU speed is hardly anything.
This is cheap, and a very good find if you're looking at saving. Assuming you receive it new, the warranty would be with MSI anyway. You also have the option of buying an M.2 SSD (for a little more), but it could be a preference over sticking with the 128GB one that comes with it.
Spod to PauloCot
8y#20
It is DDR4 2133MHz, but I don't think it is backlit. If you click on the picture of the laptop you get to the fuller description and there is a tab that gives you more of the specifications.
Looking at the specs, what I'm not sure of is whether it has a UK keyboard. It doesn't seem to say.
simonsayz13
8y#13
Some pretty bad review with ibood on trustpilot
djdope
8y#14
Probably has a non qwerty keyboard
Locknloadharry to djdope
8y#48
Dafuq?
mouphi
8y2#15
I've got a laptop with 960m and it plays all modern games. Just expect to make some compromises.
Or either wait for Amazon Prime Day, and/or wait for Black Friday/Cyber Monday longgggggggg Weekend!, and ..... :-)
MIDURIX
8y#18
960 not good enough for gaming? It is in my books. You can do some gaming on a 920. A 940 is a massive improvement on that and 960 was considered mid mid range.
Spod
8y1#19
It's funny - if you post a laptop with a 960M on here and call it a gaming laptop in the title it usually gets shot down in flames, but if you say up front that it's not really gaming material then people jump in to defend it!
Is 2GB of video RAM enough for working on FHD video? If so it should be good enough for what I want.
adam.mt to Spod
8y#35
i think you're find video ram is pretty much irrelevant to video editing, it's all done in conventional ram/storage. That said some software does use the GPU to speed up processing of effects/rendering - check the software specs.
MIDURIX to Spod
8y#45
I had an Alienware m11x r1 and that had a 335m in. That was considered a gaming laptop, but I think that was pushing it. Certainly anything with Gtx at the end is, so 950 and 960.
This laptop is 1080p and the GPU can play most games very well at that.
Spod
8y#21
The screen is described as TFT-LCD - I'm assuming that means TN rather than IPS as they haven't specified otherwise?
Were you hoping for Blu-ray at this sort of price, or did you mean that you prefer no drive to keep the weight down?
jarede
8y#24
i prefer laptops without a drive in this day and age. not so much weight, just bulk.
Stabhappy
8y#25
I bought a similar model (Leopard Pro) last year with the i5 processor instead, and a SSD.
It's a decent laptop but one thing to note is that the whole bottom plate doesn't have access panels for simple upgrades. Even the battery is not removable as you'd expect.
The bundled software and OS is naff as well - i'd really recommend a fresh installation.
Mine is currently with MSI for RMA on defective screen... personally I won't buy MSI products again but no doubt it's a good deal.
Spod to Stabhappy
8y#27
The problem is you can find people with awful experiences of every manufacturer. Even Apple isn't immune.
The bottom plate issue is interesting. I spent ages last night removing the bottom of an HP 250 G4 laptop to replace an HDD with an SSD for a friend. That's a royal pain in the backside. It is one thing that Dell usually gets right - it's easy to replace the HDD and RAM in most of their laptops.
Spod
8y#26
Fair enough - although you can buy an HDD caddy to replace the DVD drive for about £12 on ebay which would give the potential of easily expanding the amount of storage on this model.
Whenever someone mentions Apple, I feel the urge to rant about how much I hate using their software. Even when its not relevant to the discussion. If I was in the market for a Laptop, I would check the warranty, check the common faults then buy it. This is the advantage you have when buying laptops a generation behind.
alhambra7
8y#31
I have this laptop and it has a 128gb m2 sata as well as a 1tb 7200rpm hard drive also has 16gb of ddr4 ram
zzak to alhambra7
8y3#33
You don't have this laptop then as this does not have that spec.
alhambra7
8y1#32
NL means MSI European model as there headquarters are in the Netherlands
gizmokaka
8y#34
ibood=cold
coventgamer
8y#37
Or say it never came and get a refund
OldCity
8y#38
Is the gpu upgradable?
amour3k
8y1#39
WOW!, that's a LOT of loose change for a 'never came', huh?. :-(
Lol, all the best with that?. :-)
geordie9809
8y1#40
Just decided to go for it and its now sold out
pimmzy
8y#41
me tooo, out of stock
oscarkeri
8y1#42
1080p beast machine!
coventgamer
8y#43
Thought it was amazon read it wrong. Anything up to 800£ is fine if your account has lots of legit orders
JohnnyRoller
8y#44
Are you seriously telling people to lie and fraud companies? This is why we live in the world we do...
coventgamer
8y#46
Check leak forums not hukd
nerdsrope
8y#47
Out of stock now dam was just about to order
Locknloadharry
8y#49
I agree. What a complete ****. The reason everything is so expensive is a lot of people skank for a living in this country.
Take2
8y#50
I got a similar ASUS ROG (this one) last year for £690. Might we worth keeping an eye on the price of that if you narrowly missed out on this.
happenstance
8y#51
I got a dell similar specs 18 months ago for 700, so this doesn't seem that great of a deal
dezontk
8y#52
Not bad but considering the VAST improvements the newer gen has (finally laptop GPUs can near enough match desktop equivilants unlike being vastly weaker like we're used to) it kind of makes me hum and har.
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A bit of an unusual beast this. They describe it as a gaming machine, but the 960M doesn't quite justify that - but at £610 I don't think you are going to find much better with a proper quad core Skylake Core i7. If you need the processing power in a portable box it looks like a decent option.
There's room for an M.2 SSD if you want one and it is standard DDR4 2133MHz laptop memory if you want to expand that later on, but obviously that's going to jack the total price up. Not bad if you can't afford to do it all in one go though.
It's not going to be to everybody's taste, but I can't see anything better for the same money at the moment.
If anybody can do better for around £600 (or even less if possible) please do let me know as I'm on the lookout for a decent laptop for a local charity where they are going to be doing some 1080p video promotional work. Thanks.
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was decent at the time and still fine now, especially for the money
never used them?
Is it DDR4 or DDR3 RAM? Alludes to both. Also, anyone know if backlit keyboard?
Have been looking at one on Amazon for £850 - MSI looks similar, i7-7700HQ, 16GB DDR4 and has an SSD. Interested to know which people prefer out of this and the one here.
This is cheap, and a very good find if you're looking at saving. Assuming you receive it new, the warranty would be with MSI anyway. You also have the option of buying an M.2 SSD (for a little more), but it could be a preference over sticking with the 128GB one that comes with it.
Looking at the specs, what I'm not sure of is whether it has a UK keyboard. It doesn't seem to say.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-7QF-1670UK-Gaming-Laptop-Black/dp/B01NAP5GO3/
Is 2GB of video RAM enough for working on FHD video? If so it should be good enough for what I want.
This laptop is 1080p and the GPU can play most games very well at that.
It's a decent laptop but one thing to note is that the whole bottom plate doesn't have access panels for simple upgrades. Even the battery is not removable as you'd expect.
The bundled software and OS is naff as well - i'd really recommend a fresh installation.
Mine is currently with MSI for RMA on defective screen... personally I won't buy MSI products again but no doubt it's a good deal.
The bottom plate issue is interesting. I spent ages last night removing the bottom of an HP 250 G4 laptop to replace an HDD with an SSD for a friend. That's a royal pain in the backside. It is one thing that Dell usually gets right - it's easy to replace the HDD and RAM in most of their laptops.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-7RD-208UK-Kabylake-15-6-Inch-Notebook/dp/B01MT6OVIM/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1490376232&sr=1-1&keywords=gtx+1050+laptop
Lol, all the best with that?. :-)