It looks like your phone froze in 2015...

its just a phone mate.....

Totally agree..the G5 is quite a disappointment. It's just an ordinary phone and little better than the old Moto G apart from having 4G

Congratulations, only £1.99 to invalidate your guarantee..Why not buy it sim free on pricematch from John Lewis for slightly more but with a 2 year guarantee, which we may all need if it's anything like the G4 with the ghost touch problem as part of the features!

just bought this, had the 3rd gen... skipped the 4th gen, too big. v5 is very good so far, love the touch id..
im on 3 mobile, the guy in the o2 shop amusingly told me the phone was locked to 02 and couldn't be unlocked for 12 months :smiley: i said, ok mate... 20 minutes later and £1.99 on ebay, the phone was unlocked.. i guess he was hoping to get me to join 02... anyway, great phone, and this is the best price around,.....

Go to settings, then sound. There is an option to switch off the power up sound.

I've had the G5 for a few days for review purposes. I'm not particularly impressed with it to be honest. The build quality on mine is quite poor (the plastic back cover creaks when pressure is applied), and I really hate the fake chrome screen surround which is very Samsung circa 2013-2014. The screen is awful outdoors and is a fingerprint magnet, much more so than the previous G4 series probably because it no longer uses Gorilla Glass, even the 'G4 Play' was better in that regard.

The sound quality and maximum volume is very poor from the front facing speaker, definitely a downgrade from the G4 series, and G3 (G2 was the high point). The battery life has been absolutely atrocious for me, not even making it to 9PM before requiring a charge. Performance has also been quite choppy in some apps like twitter, where it sometimes freezes or refuses to scroll for 3-5 seconds. I have also noticed the top part of the handset becoming almost hot to touch, even when not doing anything particularly demanding.

I didn't like the G4 when it was released last year, as I found it too large compared to the G3, so I was looking forward to the G5. I'm very disappointed though, The G5 is where I expected the Moto E series should have been by 2017. The G5 Plus is probably the real successor to the G4, but it's considerably more expensive. The G5 definitely a low point for the Moto G series IMO.

Would you provide a link to the Ebay unlock? Thanks in advance

Arrrived today. Only paid 139 - No top up required.
Ebay unlock code worked fine and was delivered in 40 minutes.

Any idea how to stop it shouting "Hello Moto" every time it is switched on?

Banned. Lol :smiley:

sofiasar...where are you??

Hahaha giffgaff must have been reading this thread.
I've got mine from John Lewis now so it's too late. In fact not too impressed, would have preferred a g4 if there wasn't the ghost threat

I chose it as £60 cheaper making those 2 at least 40% more

I didnt, just bought it (dont forget 2% TopCashback) and added Classic Payg Sim, it arrived yesterday and my O2 monthly sim works in it fine.

I'm really going to miss her legendary gobbledegook lol

if i want to get this for £140, do i have to top up £10? if yes then how can i skip top up £10?

why will you get Moto G5 over Honor 6X or Lenovo P2? .... P2 and Honor 6X from 3 store cost £199
anything special Moto G5 has?

info: Welcome to O2. Someone will be with you soon.
info: You're through to 'Ango'
Ango: Hi I'm Ango. How can I help?
Daniel: Hi, will a GiffGaff sim work in a locked O2 phone?
Ango:Yes It'll surely work.
Daniel: Ok because I went into your Stratford upon Avon shop today about to buy a new phone and the member of staff said it definitely would'nt
Ango:Daniel, GiffGaff uses O2 network so O2 phone will work with it.

So, anyone found a non gel case that isn't a wallet style one?

It's £149 at Laptops Direct, so £10 more.

Can they be removed?

Will this have any O2 logo's at startup or badges on the handset?

The tiny battery on the XA would rule it out for me. Thats going to be 2hrs screen on time max.
My experience of having a phone with a smaller than necessary battery (Moto X 2) was that it was a vicious cycle; battery needs to be fully discharged to get a day's usage, battery loses capacity, further deep discharges..
My current phone is an S7, that lasts a 1.5 days of light use or 1 day of heavy usage, and I'm normally charging up at 40/50% at the end of the day.

Nothing on boot screen / startup
1 app installed = o2 App Space
Settings About Phone = Software Variant o2 / Software Channel o2gb

That's all Ive spotted

Anyone who's received one of these from O2 - understand it will be locked to O2, but is there any O2 branding on the phone software i.e. an O2 splash screen on boot up, any O2 apps installed etc? Many thanks

Oh yes, so saved £20 (not ten..need to go back to school..) by getting price match with Laptops Direct

yeah but you can price match laptops direct

£10? its £169.99 on JL at the moment isnt it?

Useful news thanks Serge, tempted but think its probably worth the extra tenner for an unlocked phone with 2 year guarantee from John Lewis

Genuine question as lost the ability to decide so would like peoples opinion, is it worth paying the extra £40 for the Amazon 3GB version, £110 more for the 3GB G5 Plus from Motorola or go with this?

My Giffgaff sim is recognised. Very nice phone, so far so good. Just waiting for my clear case and memory card from Amazon now.

customer services ! if you look on the website it also says OIS this is not true and it says earphones included but someone said they are not . it seems the best bet is to go toCW and check yourself what version you are getting because CW don't seem to know ???
also Moto website only mentions a 3gb version !!
i would also point out that i and they were talking about the G5 plus !

Nope, but bought click and collect

My last O2 G3 worked on GiffGaff just fine - but I know someone who had problems with another phone (an LG I believe) which worked on O2 but would not accept a GiffGaff SIM

So I'm also awaiting news on this ;0

Did they charge extra for delivery?

The XA has a 2Ghz Octocore processor so it has some oomph on paper and the 720p screen should mean less battery drain. I was wondering whether that makes them fairly even or whether the G5 is significantly better value

I'll know tomorrow when I plug in my giffgaff sim.

The Moto G5 is loads better than that.. the XA got bad reviews when it was released.. ages ago.
The G5 is full HD for a start. XA has a crappy mediatek chipset, vs the G5s snapdragon.
The G5 has a bigger battery too.. although 2800mAh isn't massive considering the size of the screen.

What's the camera like on it? I've not seen a decent camera review on one of the Chinese phones yet.

John Lewis pricematched laptops direct straight away. No messing around with potentially unlocking O2's offering. It's interesting that giffgaffs site says their sims work in phones locked to O2 but O2 says not. Who's right??

Reserved a Moto over the phone at a local O2 shop and they wouldn't sell the phone unless I paid £10 for a sim. I walked out the shop ordered my phone through O2 via topcashback and not only did I get the phone for £139.99 but my cash back tracked at £2.80, so I ended up paying £137.19.

Staff in O2 shop told me it's locked to O2 and won't work with a Giffgaff SIM unless unlocked. John Lewis won't price match because it's a different colour and is locked to O2. Presently awaiting price match to Laptops Direct (Thanks Macro Duck!)

does unlocking it via eBay really invalidate the warranty? that's a bit poor especially as I went into an o2 shop today where they quoted this to me also and they won't unlock it until it's 12 months old.... :confused:

i had another go and was told 2gb ! moto website only mentions 3gb for uk market so best to get the phone and check in "settings" before you make a decision .:smile:

Not sure, but the answer came from 2 different sources. I think its enough for me to either go into store and look at physical device/box or just order from Motorola direct if I choose the plus, still not sure if go this with a view to replacing sooner or the extra monies and get the Plus or the P2

This phone is Locked to 02

Unlock codes available on eBay @ £1.65 My Virgin sim wouldnt work so I used this one this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MOTOROLA-MOTO-G-MOTO-E-GLEAM-G2-G3-G4-G5-AND-OTHERS-UNLOCK-SUBSIDY-CODES-/321664418000?hash=item4ae4b180d0:g:PnAAAOSwZjJU2D6w

All works fine

As a note I previously had the 3GB Ram one from Amazon which I returned for this as @ £139.99 its to cheap not to / the difference in memory is marginal the 3GB idles at around 1.4GB usage this one Idles at around 1GB usage

Hope the above helps

well there ya go that's not what they told me and i don't think it's worth another £100 if it's true . could it be that he just read back to you what was on the website ?

O2 told me the phone is locked and you have to purchase £10 top up. When I said I could unlock it myself the girl said that would invalidate the warranty. I bought it from John Lewis who price matched the deal offered by Laptops Direct £149.97.

Need to know if its unlocked also

depends what you use it for

don't think it's unlocked but you can unlock it for free if you know a o2 customer

Can anyone confirm that the phone is unlocked?
Can you get this price direct in store? (as on their site it's asking for UK postcode which must match bank address - my bank is in France - and so therefore I can't purchase online.)
Finally - if I do purchase in store is the £10 top-up obligatory?

Many thanks for my many questions!

"...brought...brought..." ! :laughing::laughing::disappointed:

Need to go and see one in the flesh, picked this up for my son on Saturday and its nice so presuming G5Plus will be as well but havent played with a P2

The battery life mostly. 5100 mAh. Coupled with 4gb ram, all the other features and the price, it hits the sweet spot for me.

Agree regarding Touchwiz, but its not as bad as I expected it to be on my Tab S2. If you don't like TW, there is also the Lineage option.

Or focus on the work market - our company switched to them as they are useful work phones for more traditional companies. Having had all 3 main ops I prefer Android and cant see a case of ever buying a windows phone for personal use as not enough apps and am personally tied into Google music play as have 16000+ collection uploaded to it

I asked via FB and emailed them, the responce from both was the website is correct - email below:


Thanks for your email.

Having checked information on the new Motorola G5 Plus I can confirm it is a 32GB handset with 2GB of RAM.

If there is anything else I can do just reply to my email, alternatively call our Customer Service Team on 0370 111 6565.


Kind Regards,

Muhammad Chopdat
Customer Service
Carphone Warehouse

I use android pay daily also it's useful to use in apps that support it without entering your bank details.

I predict Windows will pull out of the phone market

Have that on my last 2 phones and never actually used it once, if you dont use android Pay (or similar) what is it actaully commonly used for? Not arguing, trying to see why it would be a deal breaker.

and Touchwiz, dont forget Touchwiz

Why that decision as currently trying to narrow down a new phone at about the £200 price bracket as giving my wife my S7 as her S4 is dying

stuck in 2015 like the guy from page 1

get a moto e 2nd gen (2015). You can get a 2nd hand one for about £40 off ebay brand new from people that got it with their contracts. Android 6.0 available for that phone btw.

I have to agree. I too the plunge on the Chinese One Plus 3 and haven't looked back. A friend bought the S7e at the same time and only one of us is still smiling.

The S6 is the better phone apart from one annoying thing.....the battery. If you can live with this, get the S6, if not, Moto G.

So they are now aware of the cheaper deal yet haven't reduced the price... So much for 'Never knowingly undersold'

Decent spec phone for the price, but I swore off Lenovo (who not own Motorola) after the "Superfish" debacle.

16 gb storage from them 10 gb user memory, isn't that to little ? Can anyone who has Moto G5 answer please.

Still no NFC ? what are they thinking!

I have to admit, I had the original Moto G and it was a cracking little phone. The only thing that suffered was the 1GB of RAM.

Can we please get some NFC :disappointed:( The CPU supports it, but it's not included :disappointed:

As an owner of a Moto G4 i wouldn't get this or another Lenovo phone.

I get the odd ghosting particuarly when the phone is quite hot - it gets tedious very quickly.

3000 mAh isn't enough and this one has a 2800 mAh battery, battery life is improved slightly with Nougat but not much.

Performance is mediocre at best, some of the larger apps i have are just painfully slow to load...

Camera is ok at best.

16 GB memory is no where near enough these days when you take into consideration i have 10.8 GB available due to Android taking up such a massive amount.

Build quality leaves a lot to be desired, the other day my power button ending up popping out of place (luckily into my pocket so i managed to pop it back into place).

I would honestly spend more money on something better or consider a Chinese import as they have better specs for the same or less money.

Decent price but i think i'm gonna for the P2 as my S4 replacement.

I brought this yesterday from 02 store £139. +£10 top up love the colour it's 2gb ram and it works fine I brought it as a second phone as I'm running iPhone 7 but it's good enough to be a first phone imo

Not convinced by Windows phones (and I own one). Biggest problem is lack of apps.

I'd rather get that 216 quid lumia 950xl

Is this any good?

Torkijo advises me he has received email confirmation both from the CPW site and their Facebook site that it's definitely the 2GB version? Who on earth at CPW told you it was the 4GB version?​

Forget my message re John Lewis I have filled the online form in.

How do you go about that I would like to buy this phone.

no i paid with debit card or paypal, Haven't got a credit card.
Yes i used different chargers, kept thinking chargers were broken and binned most. :disappointed:
top it off, had my mum come over, she decided to throw the box away just before the charging issue got extremely worse.

I've just got John Lewis to price match this with laptopsdirect.co.uk for £149.97 with 2yrs guarantee, unlocked. I hope I don't have any problems like the poster above has had with them :/

Have you quoted the Consumer Rights' Act to John Lewis? They are talking rubbish when they tell you to take it up with Motorola - your contract is with the retailer, NOT the manufacturer. I know from bitter experience that Motorola are awful to deal with.

Did you pay by credit card? If so, you can make a Section 75 claim.

http://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/regulation/consumer-rights-act

http://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/regulation/section-75-of-the-consumer-credit-act

http://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/advice/how-do-i-use-chargeback

https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G4-Moto-G4-Plus-Moto-G4/moto-g4-plus-charging-issue-quot-ghost-touch-quot/m-p/3626610#M20982

As far as the charging issue is concerned, have you tried it with different chargers? My Motorola charger stopped working but the phone would charge with different chargers - a moot point really, when the ghost touch rendered it unusable!

I am shocked to read this as I've always thought John Lewis had a good reputation. I always advise people against buying Motorola products as I've had such a horrendous experience with my G4, but I did buy directly from them and had to deal with them, rather than a third party retailer.

If it wont charge at all, then I would go back to John Lewis and tell them just that.
Believe me, i wouldnt let them get away with them fobbing me off.
But as I said previously, i have only ever had a good experience with their warranties

After a few months had that ghosting thing, my phone would go crazy and start ringing people, doing things, read up its a known fault, on another forum they said to get it changed. JL suggested i go to motorola. Now it doesn't charge at all, the battery didn't last long, i re-calibrated it.. lasted a bit longer, but now won't charge at all. I'm done with it, I'm gonna send it to get a few pennies to one of these phone places.
saying that, i've just ordered g5 from amazon, in the past had a phone stop working once off amazon after 5mnths, no quibble, straight swap or money back.

That really isnt good at all. You should keep on at them.
What fault does your G4 actually have?
From a personal point of view, my experience with John Lewis warranties has been the opposite to yours.
They have always been very helpful indeed.

it cant be any worse than the MOTO G4

​bum a code from someone, if you know a student just ask... cost them nothing...

Not a student :-(

Picked this up today for my son, it's a lovely piece of kit

I bought the Redmi Note 4 in the deal you mentioned. One of the best bargains I've ever bagged. Band 20 support and MIUI after getting used to it is excellent.

john lewis won't do anything about my faulty g4 despite having only had it 9mnths and supposed to have a 2yr warranty, i'd never purchase from them again tbh

I wonder if John Lewis would price match to this. They have the g5 at £169 at the minute. Has anyone tried this?

Around 30%.

What is the difference between this g5 and the g4 for £139 from John Lewis with 2 year warranty? Any advise is welcome as I need a phone asap please. Tia.

hi how much warranty does this phone come with?

Battery life is excellent on the P2.

​can get the G5 plus 3GB for as low as £215 after Unidays code and cashback​...

http://deals/lenovo-moto-g5-plus-32gb-3gb-ram-possibly-low-215-with-code-cashback-motorola-2651094

have they sorted all the issues with the P2 with an update? great phone but far too many problems for a new phone.I've only just been refunded by three after sending it back about two months ago.

Well CPW need to get their finger out then and amend the spec list to 4GB RAM otherwise they will lose sales big time. It'll be interesting to see if anyone has actually purchased the CPW version who can verify this.

Sorry but should I be happy with this price? For this price you buy a locked phone what is weaker then Lenovo p2 at three. More RAM, better processor, huge battery, souble sim amd the price is 199. Sorry I've forgotten...unlocked. For me the lenovo seems to be better choice.

Nope, Lenovo own Motorola. Those are just reviews of a completely different phone - one review with a pic is an LG. O2 Website glitch I think....

EDITED after someone who knew what they were talking about replied - Nope, they are referring to the LG G5 which IS a different phone

So, this, the £179 3GB version or the £249 G5 Plus?

I checked on the link for this deal. The reviews refer to an LG G5. Is this the same 'phone or am I missing somehting ?

I bought the 3Gb version from Amazon Looks and feels rather cheap but functions like a dream

i thought this but when i spoke to CW they told me the info on website is incorrect and it will be the 4gb version . they also state that the camera has OIS this is also incorrect .

​thanks captain!

I've been trialing this phone at work for a few days. Fantastic device, even when compared to S8. Only slight downside is the screen is smaller than I'd like.

I don't get why all the sheeple out there are still buying Apple/Samsung phones at massively inflated prices, when a look on sites like gearbest will show you quality phones with great specs at a fraction of the cost. I'm currently on an oukitel u15s, 4gb ram, 32gb rom, dual sim, blah blah, cost £108 delivered in 2 weeks.some of the other more expensive Chinese phones blow crapple and samdung away. obviously I realise this isn't either of those but 2gb ram!?!? really???

​lots of reviews saying G4 camera lenses easily scratched so for that reason I wouldn't get one... Hopefully G5 corrected problem...

​lol. when did it come out? 2011 was long time ago actually. i remember joining Facebook then and actually made a Google mail account then later on joined hukd.

The price is nice! But I think the 2GB Ram is not enough to use.

Choose classic pay & go. It says minimum top-up £10 but they don't charge you (upfront payment stays at £139.99) - they just send you a sim for you to top-up yourself.

​s6 is better
motog5 has a low end CPU Snapdragon 430

There are loads of phones that do that and at a cheaper price.

how are you buying this without a top up?

No NFC.....

Is either the Moto G5 2gb or 3gb better than the Samsung s6? I'm trying to find a decent phone.
What would be the next phone up from the G5 that would be recommended (to avoid the issues that everyone has been mentioning)?

This any good?
http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/motorola-moto-g5-fine-gold-5-16gb-4g-unlocked-sim-free-pa600032gb/version.asp?refsource=Ldadwords

This phone does not have NFC

What do you think of the A3 plz

It takes ages to charge. All night. The charge doesn't last that long. Camera is not good. These are the problems I have. It's only 6 months old. Beautiful looking phone.

Thanks. I'm not too keen on this Samsung.I never know what stock android means though and bloat ware. They all have apps on.

xaomi redmi note 4 from aliexpress on sale right now £122 and can even get £10 topcashback on it. If you're willing to wait for delivery.

​not the P2 sent mine back far too many problems. search for thread on here

Yeah my friends has taken his back twice, the G4 while charging looks as tho it's having a mini fit

​there is no compulsory topup, just choose the bundle and yes, it works fine with GiffGaff SIM :wink:

Yikes! I only bought the Moto G4 5 days ago and we get this Good price for Moto G5 Duh!! Hot

Go for this or the Lenovo P2 at £199?

The 3gb ram version sold only by Amazon is dual SIM also I think. Voted this blue one hot at 140 though.

​Indeed you are correct! I got caught up in sofiasar fever :smile:

A3 2016 looks and feels more expensive and has a better brighter amoled screen. Depends if you are happy with the Samsung software really.

Hardware wise, the G5 is better in all departments. It will also have stock Android against a bloated Samsung so it wins in the software department too. No brainer

Comparison

I can't believe they left out a compass, complete deal breaker for me. I use it all the time with Google Maps :disappointed:

is this better than a Samsung galaxy s6 currently have a s5 and the camera is rubbish compared to the s4 not sure why Samsung do that with there cameras on paper it looks better in real life very poor.

Is there NFC?

is that £129.99 or £169.99 sim free?

can't answer the question but coincidentally bought the dual sim Samsung galaxy A3 today.
https://www.techinthebasket.com/samsung-galaxy-a3-black-16gb-4g-dual-sim-smartphone-2016-version.html

this is single sim , isn't it?

My G2 still going strong. I have learnt to never update any software if I can help it, otherwise the powers that be try to make it worse and obsolete.

All those time travellers who bought their Moto G in 2011 while the rest of us non time travellers had to wait until November 2013:smile:

Thanks - can't manage to check out at the moment though - been getting "store busy" for last half hour....

This is £149.99 as there is a compulsory £10 top up

​moto g4. allllll day long. got one for myself.

Thanks

That's exactly what I've done. :sunglasses:

iPhone 6 Plus - Touch IC / Touch Disease fault
iPhone 5/5S/6 - U2 IC charging problem due to using non Apple chargers, thing is non genuine chargers work fine on most Android phones, so no excuse there Apple.

Some people are equally sick of Apple, especially when they don't fix their design flaws. They know the 6 Plus has a design flaw as they moved the Touch IC from the mainboard to the screen for the 6S Plus. Also Apple will NOT supply any 3rd party with genuine parts so you have to fix Apple phones with non genuine parts or strip genuine parts from a broken phone.

Thanks

the only moto g worth buying is the 3gb version from amazon. none of the others make any sense. its £180 iirc

Is there a compulsory top-up required, or can you just select a £10 bundle to go with it but not go ahead with it? I'm on giffgaff and want to stay on giffgaff, so hopefully wouldn't need to unlock phone.

Very tempting price even with just 2GB RAM and 16GB internal storage. This deal makes the Amazon one look expensive because their 2GB version is £169.99. If Amazon were to price match, then the 3GB version should be sold at £149.99 to remain proportionate and competitive. It also makes the Carphone Warehouse Moto G Plus with a paltry 2GB RAM look ridiculously expensive at £249.99. The price differential between the standard G5 and the G5 plus is too great. It places the former in the budget price range, but the latter in the mid price range at almost double the price!

I have just received the 3GB RAM version from Amazon...had it almost a week now and very impressed...it looks good, feels good, and is pretty quick with virtually no lag. I would certainly recommend. Big improvement on the G4 and I prefer the slightly smaller overall size. Hot fro me!

no electronic compass cold

They can say that but anyone that has owned a few MotoGs will know the difference in the product since Lenovo took over their phone division. I blindly bought each one based on the 1st buy. I'd have loved to have been able to stick with the G4 & now the G5 but they aren't the same family any more

​That seems a good reason to criticise Lenovo but this is what the Motorola website says "All mobile phones are designed and manufactured by Motorola Mobility LLC, a wholly owned subsidiary of Lenovo". In any case I've ordered the 3gb/16gb, dual SIM version which is exclusive to Amazon and look forward to getting it tomorrow.

To all you tech experts is this better than a samsung galaxy A3 2016 plz?

I had a motor G original but didn't like the newer large screens bit this is a 5" so ok.

On the basis we bought 2 & returned 2. Felt cheaper unlike the earlier models that had a real premium feel to them despite their lower prices etc

This or the p2

What a let down the moto g has become since Lenovo took over the brand

Having said that, I have been eyeing up the Lenovo P2. Looks pretty impressive for the dough.

Do we have to buy top up??

Do these also come with the O2 software on them as well (as well as saying O2 on start up screen)?

Is this better than the Xperia xa? They seem on par on paper. I think I'd prefer the Moto OS though being less bloated than Sony's

when my note 4 dies this is my next phone

​On what basis do you make your 'wouldn't touch these new Lenovo made ones' comment.

then it is cold because you are paying about £100 more than you need to!

I see what your saying raggedy. If I was only wanting text and browsing little you say, I'd expect to pay no more than £100. I picked up the Huawei P9 Lite just before Christmas for £140 and the Wileyfox Swift 2 Plus at £150 was available only a few weeks ago. Both these phones have 3GB of RAM.

2GB RAM will be fine for now but down the line, it will be an issue, (and be the excuse they give for not updating it.)

​oh dear, did i mention i owned one ??
IV had so many different mobiles in 3 year's don't ask how many! they don't last . currently I'm using LG g4 and even that needed a repair this year. sick of android mobiles now.

If it is sim free. That's my little girls first new phone.

Aghh wish they would release another <5" phone. Stuck with Sony compacts until another company steps up.

If you have a friend on O2 contract they can get you a free unlock.

Or alternatively take out a basic 30 day sim only. That'll qualify you for a free unlock. You then have 14 days cooling off period to cancel for a full refund.

Snapdragon v mediatech no contest have abandoned Sony mediatech processors lag and then go quick makes me go queasy when using. I'll never buy a mediatech processor phone again bye bye sony

2gb ram from specs I am reading 3gb is in the 32gb version. So what price is that?

Is it sim free or locked to 02

The original MotoGs are built like tanks - I also bought my 1st one in 2011 & family have had 5-6 of them.

But I wouldnt touch these new Lenovo made ones. Motorola in name only kid

How does this phone compare to the Xperia XA that's on for £129.99 at Carphone warehouse?

I find 2gb on the G4 perfectly fine, though I don't leave loads of apps/games running in the background.

2GB Ram, cold, 3GB, Hot.

£180 will get you an unlocked, 3GB version.
At that price point there is really nothing to rival it.

G4 is 5.5", G5 is 5". for kids smaller is better.

this or the moto G4 for a £145 with 2 year warranty from John Lewis
which would be better for a school kid?

It looks like your phone froze in 2015...

Presumably bought before Lenovo took over then? My G4 was only usable for 3 months and Motorola refused to give me a refund, even after 2 failed 'repairs'.

these are the best mobiles which will last year's. have 3 in family and one which has lasted 4 years and the other still going :smiley: all bought in 2011

It is the 2Gb model and should be unlocked to any network. I previously bought a moto g3 from o2 and that was unlocked.

amazon are the only UK store to stock the 3GB RAM edition

So is it 2GB or 3GB ?

this doesn't say if its 2gb or 3gb but most likely its 2gb ram