I'm not sure that counts as a "similar one" :smiley:

It's 3.5", it's not an external drive, and it's £183.07!

Of course it is. I paid £50 for a WD 2TB external. I took part in beta testing the 4.50 update. The 2TB external has come in very useful in the past few weeks. Before this update I had 1TB in my Pro and only had like 200GB left. £100 for 4TB for an external drive is very good.

30 day warranty vs 3 year warranty.No thanks. Out of Stock anyway.

Wow, my first computer had a 6gb HDD

Thanks for the help guys, just arranged a return and refund this time!! Bad luck this time...

Not an expert, but that looks like faults on the hard drive to me (especially the "I/O device error" lines). Have you run the SeaTools long test on the drive? That should test every sector and should indentify any dodgy ones. Personally, I would be thinking about returning the drive...

TestDisk is primarily intended for file recovery/partition repair rather than physical testing despite the software's name.

I/O errors can indicate physical faults but they could also be due to entries within the allocation table (the directory of the locations of the files on the disk) that are pointing to data that is no longer present.

It appears it's a second hand drive as it's finding bits of files and/or references to them still on the drive.

That's what I was thinking as well... although it was strange as it seems Drive Manager just recognizes this drive and not others, so in theory, I thought it should be more reliable with the results.

After running that TestDisk programme though, I got around 3000 lines of errors, so I'm with my doubt again about trying to return it or not.

But at the moment I don't feel too comfortable putting 4TB of data in this drive, so most likely is that I'll try to arrange a refund this time and just avoid BT shop in the future for fragile things...

Mah first one - I couldn't be bothered to return, mine was delivered to an office so no dropping through the door post hole, but still badly packaged and likely have suffered rough handling. Testing with SeaTools it passed though so I decided not to return.Could be that the Drive Manager program is just ****.

Hey Strawdog, never used that TestDisk tool before, but I run it on the drive and it's got a log with around 3000 lines with the following messages. Do you know if that means it's definitely faulty? I think so, but wanted to ask you in case it sounds familiar...

file_pread(5,1,buffer,3519070000(486401/83/3)) lseek err Invalid argument
file_pread(5,1,buffer,3519071913(486401/113/26)) lseek err Invalid argument
file_pread(5,1,buffer,3519069865(486401/80/57)) ReadFile The request could not be performed because of an I/O device error.
file_pread(5,1,buffer,3519069866(486401/80/58)) ReadFile The request could not be performed because of an I/O device error.
file_pread(5,14,buffer,3519069867(486401/80/59)) ReadFile The request could not be performed because of an I/O device error.

My original drive was delivered to my work and I'm not in this week so unsure if a replacement has been sent out yet or not (not had any emails to say one's been sent out).

I'll not be best pleased it they send a tatty refurb, I'll be running TestDisk/PhotoRec (http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk) on it, to see how clean it is, if it's not new.

Ah... I forgot to say. I think the replacement HDD was not brand new, ie, it came with dust all over the place!!!!

Interested to see that now if you follow the link its no longer new stock.. Maybe they have 50 returns?


Product overview


Stock Status: Clearance
Stock Status: Used Stock

More than 50 in stock

Really? Was that your 1st drive or the replacement as well?

I didn't contact them today thinking about keeping it or just return it for a full refund, I think I'll do the later and just buy from a different shop in the future...

I get exactly the same message after the test hangs at about 60%. Re-ran it something like three times overnight.

Guys, did you run the complete Diagnostics with the tool that's provided in the drive?
If you have run it, could you please let me know what were your results? or if you have not run it, could someone pls run it and let me know if it success or fails for you?

I thought the replacement HDD was fine because windows recognised it, but when I run those complete diagnostics I get an error again?!



Or if you

I wanted to give it another go. The replacement finally arrived today, this time seems working fine... although the same poor packing, postman dropping it to the floor, ... but seems ok this time.

Let's hope it lasts.

Good luck with yours this time...

Just called them and got an RMA with collection tomorrow morning... Hopefully they don't leave me hanging for weeks on a replacement.

Worst case I'll cancel it and take a refund (they gave me the option of refund or replace).

Good luck trying to talk to BT then.

I reported mine faulty over 2 weeks ago now and I'm still waiting for a replacement, maybe next week I think. I had not seen a customer service so bad in a longgg time!!! It seems they just opened an online shop yesterday and are still learning by the way they do things...

Mine was happy away for a couple of weeks but has just died on me whilst copying some files to it, it's now making nice grindy disk noises and emitting an occasional beep when the actuator arm resets.

Sorry, to what were you referring to?
My drive was making a strange mechanical noise the 1st time I plugged it in, and then all other tools I use to check temperature, SMART errors, etc... none of them recognize the drive, so there's definitely something wrong with it.

I do agree, that I doubt BT will pack anything differently, but knowing it. We have a few ideas to mitigate the risks of the delivery in our house. Although we cannot control what happens on its way here.

We will see, as BT has not even replied yet...

That's rudicilous, although something is making me feel like your replacement drive will suffer the same fate of the postage system. I ordered mine to my work address so it was handed to me, but still I'm paranoid about these things. It seems like it's not just my Drive Manager software that's showing full scan error though - but the drive works fine for me otherwise and I recently did an extended SeaTools test which it passed.

actually they did **** packaging but fortunately I got it to my hand rather dropped down to letter box. I don't know how did they handle it until it come here. Amazon packaging is the best. cheers :man:

I choose 'goods arrived damaged' and I'll see what they prefer to do. TBH, I'll be happy either way (replacement for a new one, better for me; or refund, a little bit annoying... but I guess it's just bad luck). I would not like to keep a faulty item anyway.

I hate returning stuff as well, but thankfully, it doesn't happen often. But again, sellers tend to pack their products with more care. BT seems that didn't care at all to me...

I might do the same, what was the reason you chose for returning?
"faulty on arrival" or was it something like "didn't like the product"? (I'm aiming for a refund with less/no hassle)

gosh I hate returning stuff...

Personally, I'm going to try and return it. The other software the I've got doesn't even recognize the drive...

And 4TB of data is quite a lot of data in case it starts failing soon. If BT sends a replacement fine, but if they give me a refund instead... I'll feel more comfortable anyway. Another one will come at some point.

I told them by email that the packing was really poor and not even putting a fragile sticker was maybe even worse. Hopefully they'll improve for future customers!

Good luck.

K0smopolitan, I did as you said.
btw, I bought 2 drives (one had cracked casing, other is fine), also dropped through letter box.
BOTH failed the 'complete' testing from Drive Manager. typical..
H2testw seems to take forever to test.
Not sure if Seagate software itself is unreliable..(mind you, I've never trusted manufacturer softwares).

Is it better to return this?
I read through the returns a bit, BT shop does let us RMA the product.

though, I'd like to hear from you guys first.
reply ASAP.

Thanks

Similar issue about the postage not being any secure (not enough wrapping, no fragile sticker, etc), so that our postman delivered it by putting it through the letter plates in the door and dropping it about 1.5m.

Passing the Drive Manager software give a total failure, after some mechanical noises and a lot of HDD programmes not recognising the drive.

Great, let's see now how BT customer service is...

​I got mine today. Did you? :innocent:

I got mine today :wink: . it work perfectly with ps4. cheers guys :innocent:

Do a full scan with the Drive Manager, that came bundled with the hard drive. Same situation about postage. I did a full scan with Drive Manager twice, overnight, and both times after about 8 hours of scanning it told me the drive didn't pass, and that I should contact seagate about warranty. h2testw successfully filled the drive and verified data though, but I'm still not liking it and thinking about returning it.

I emailed [email protected] to query it last night. I've just had a postage confirmation come through now !

fyi.. mine was ordered on 10th, dispatched on 13th and arrived on 15th.

I've opened mine up and for those wondering it's a Seagate BarrCuda ST4000LM024

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Seagate-ST4000LM024-4-2-5-Inch-Barracuda-Internal/dp/B01LXCE9W9

4TB
5400RPM
SATA III
128MB Cache
2.5" Form Factor

Rang them up, got some twaddle about the site reporting stock when they have none, but new stock is (allegedly) arriving tomorrow (Friday). I ordered late Friday evening last week, so I'd imagine the stock they did have was sold before my order went in.

Just checked mine as it's a day late & it's still processing, it's not even been posted yet.....

Mine has arrived (on 15th march).

The packaging was broken-ish (HDD packaging, a tear in the plastic casing. not the mail packaging). Guess the handling was bad..

should I be worried about the drive failing soon?
used HD tune and no errors/bad sectors found. are there any other tools to use to check?

They could have done better with packaging tbh...was just the HDD stock package and a thin mail package bag.

"Sorry, this coupon code can’t be used on this order. Please check the terms and conditions to ensure your order qualifies, if your order does qualify it may be that the maximum number of redemptions have already been reached. Please note some coupons are customer specific and can only be used by the person they were issued to."

EXPIRE IT

They are taking their time. My order is still processing when it should have arrived.

Yep, it's working a treat :-)

Code no longer works.... :disappointed:

Yeh I have, but i did pay for a saturday delivery. ordered on the friday evening.

16k.. I wish.. I started out on the Commodore Vic 20 with 3.5k RAM

To expand to 16k RAM then would have cost me more than this 4TB Storage !

http://gaming.trekcore.com/platforms/shatnervic3.jpg

Lol. My brother spent all day typing a programme into his zx81, the 16kilobyte plug in ram pack shifted a bit and he lost the lot, zx81 nearly flew out of the window... 16kilobyte !!!

Ordered at 08:31 on Friday and delivered this morning... Seems like a nippy little drive too (146MB/s sequential read/writes)

​when did you order it though?

Yes, Mine was delivered this morning by Royal Mail.

Anyone got a status other than being processed????

​same here .still being processed. you had any joy yet.

Assuming that this has expired as BT won't accept the voucher.

No, It was one of the first Amstrad portables. My first computer was a TRS80 Model 1, with 4Kb memory, so I added another 12 Kb and a 5 1/4 floppy drive after I got fed up with putting my programs onto cassette tape. That little lot cost me about £1200 back in 1980.

did anybody receive it? still my order in process. now it's been 2 and half days? :disappointed:

"In the long run we are all dead" -- John Maynard Keynes

USB powered I already have the 2TB version of this and now ordered this 4TB version.

One day memory storage as we know it won't exist and will be limitless in thin air. We will look back and laugh at the big black boxes with a tiny 4 TB lol.

Just seeking clarification does this require mains to power it or not ?

Don't feed the trolls.. Not worth the headache...

Nope. The PS4 will format the entire thing and that part of it won't be readable by a PC.

What the ...

Hahahaha, tell me about it?, lool.

Is it possible to use e.g. 2 TB for Ps4 and the other 2 TB for other backups? (PC, Mac etc.)?

anybody did try this with ps4 as an external hdd? :man:

​It's so cheap :innocent:

wasn't a zx 80 was it?

Do you guys know of a model with same design but USB 3.1 or port-C instead?

Ordered one on Monday for £115, ordered another as I've nearly filled it.....

Hot !

Tests have shown improved performance when using an external drive on an Xbox one, so it does sound like an issue with your older drive.
I've got a few different external drives and tested them all with diskmark... The best performing one got used for my Xbox one and the slowest for backups.
Tried using an SSD in an external caddy on the Xbox one for a while too and that massively improved things (AC Syndicate's loading times were driving me potty)

Cold for me I ordered one of these and fitted it internally bargain
http://www.play-asia.com/samsung-ssd-850-evo-4tb-sata-6gbs/13/70a2fd?gclid=CObF7uv1zdICFUafGwodu7kCTQ&ref=froogle_uk:smirk:

Copying/moving files from one Drive to another Drive WON'T knacker your good one in anyway.

It's a Hardware issue your old one has, NIT a Software one ...

Hardware issues are to technically (both figuratively and literally) a little bit more difficult to rectify?!.

Software or later ones (in comparison) are nothing!, lol.

Any issues your new Drive may have with receiving the 'data' from your old Drive will most likely be a 'cosmetic' one (eg. mainly Software related).

Of which (if push comes to shove), a simple formatting of your new Drive would/should more than sufficiently rectify such problems in itself .....

So not the same then. New for £100 or second hand for £80. Just what is the point?

My first computer with a built in hard drive, had a 40Mb hard drive. That was back in 1990 though.

What would be even better, can you crack one of these open, and install a PS4? Very portable gaming then. :smiley:

I've asked the same question today. Nobody answered. I'm guessing and hoping it has a SATA interface since Seagate drives do, and Maxtor is a Seagate company.

I've been waiting for that to come back in stock for a while now

Anybody disassembled it already? I want to know if it's SATA disk with little USB adapter or the whole PCB is USB

I used a MyPassport 1TB for my XBOne but thought that games were quite slow to load to be honest when compared with installing on the internal drive - it was USB 3 but a few years old now (5ish) - are they better these days in terms of read/write etc.?

I know, but from 500GB to 4.5TB? Though they do say go big or go home! :sunglasses:

Not sure if srs :confused::neutral_face:

the drive that is starting to fail is actually WD My passport which i have been using on mac (could be why it started messing up but then again i had it for 7 years). i had data on so didnt want to reformat for mac. as of right now i can access the data but it takes like half an hour to mount and then some extra time for the data to actually appear PER folder.

in this case would moving my data to new drive or will it mess up the new drive too?

That's a 3TB drive, not a 4TB...
I've got one of the older Samsung branded 2TB versions of these drives and it's still going strong after being carted all over the place. I've had two failed Western Digital drives over the years, one Samsung and one Seagate so while some people might warn you against X, Y or Z brand, you need to be aware that ALL hard drives can potentially fail.

I'd go with this, just as long as you're not using it for your only copy of irreplaceable data.

thanks. also while this is worth it in terms of price mainly would you say its worth paying extra £26 for this..https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00YRBNGLS/ref=twister_B01F75OW8S?_encoding=UTF8&th=1

It's reliable, and worth it.

And even moreso for the price ...

Cool, thanx. :-)

Can someone tell me how good/reliable this is and whether its worth it? I have not purchased an external drive since like 2010 so quite behind with things.

EDit: current drive pretty much failed and am running chkdsk as i type this
Thanks

The one I got was a WD My Passport for MAC (just needed formatting and partion deleting via windows PC) and it was second hand from CEX.

:-)

Fair enough.

Where from/when please?. :-)

Thanks OP.

Most AAA games are excessively big, COD: IW and MWR take up 130GB, and that's essentially one game.

Can't fathom how much people spend on downloads to fill up a 4Tb drive with games Oo

I just about filled up a 500Gb launch PS4, and I'm nowhere near filling the 1Tb slim I've got now.

Yep. had a few failed seagates bought brand new and failed either within 1 year or just over the year. Annoying and frustrating. Even a 10 year warranty wouldn't do it for me.

Never had a problem with WD and i've had old old drives which just don't seem to fail.

Saying that, i've got a couple external drives which appear to look identical to this maxter one externally, but internally the ones i've got are samsung drives, both holding out pretty well.

nice! iv'e missed out on a few offers recently, but this price point aint bad for 4TB!

Does anyone know if this drive can be taken out of its box and connected through SATA, or is the USB connection soldered directly to the drive?

Cold someone had 2 up for sale in the Classfieds for £85 each delivered

Missed my chance there

It's a feature a lot of people have asked requested for quite some time Little to no notice was given that it was going to go live. There was a rumour at the start of the week, then Sony finally confirmed the day before it went live. So I'd imagine there would be a scramble as people want to take advantage of a hassle free way of expanding storage. Especially if you only have a 500gb drive

4.50 drops. Everyone scrambles for huge externals! :confused:

Great price for 4TB.

Expert timing OP :P

Shots fired! :man:

would never consider a seagate / maxtor ( same makers ) drive. western digital for me all the way. low error rates on WD drives.

Ha - we had an RML 380Z with a single 5 1/4 floppy disk - had to disk swap to load basic. Later upgraded to twin 5 1/4 disks. Then an Amstrad PC1512 and a TI 99 4/A.

Happy days.

Minimum size is 250Gb IIRC.

Heat for the price, but not sure about reliability if Seagate are involved?

I'm toying with the idea of getting a load of 32GB USB sticks and putting 1 game on each...
Game carts! FTW :stuck_out_tongue:

In other words nothing like ..geez

Troll?

Would someone be able to explain if this backwards compatible? Think my laptop and smart tv may be a bit old for usb3?

Okay, gonna have to stop feeding the trolls now :smiley:

Often amazon have this for £103 ish, could then do a flubit on it which should bring it down to sub 100 easily.

Yeah Maxtor was the other one I saw which was also cheaper.. I guess you could buy that instead, every penny counts..

Sorry can beat that; my first PC was an 8088 with a 20mb hard drive and a single speed CD-ROM and a 5.25" floppy :smiley:

That was after the Spectrum 48k and Atari STFM years :smiley:

Presuming that that isn't a red Delorean in your profile pic, any chance of letting us know where from...

Wow, my first computer had a 6gb HDD

Literally no idea what you're going on about now.

I have prime, and the disk you claim is £99.99 is actually £183.07. There is no discount.
There is no cage provided with it, so it's not an external drive.
Even if you did have an enclosure for it, it would use more electricity than the Maxtor.
You'd also need to use up another mains power socket to power it.
And it's 3.5" instead of 2.5". It's a lot bigger and a lot heavier!

This Maxtor is a good deal for an external, £100-ish, portable drive (none of which that other disk is).

Not the lowest price. I got them at £80 each

Hahahahaha, yeh, it does look a lot like that too I guess?, lol. :-)

For the pro If the drive is 15mm you can literally hammer it in. But it will make the case buldge a bit.

Wouldnt risk the extra heat or jamming a drive in there when you can connect a usb.

For the old phat ps4 it was easier to jam one in, not sure about the slim

What is/was that please?. :-)

Am I the only one who thought this was an inflatable bed until the description was read?

Superb, just what i need for the new PS4 USB game storage update that drops today.
Heat8)

Great deal - ordered - thanks for finding.

Similar means not quite the same. So im covered that way. The size is within a couple on inches, so that fits. It is an external drive once you use the provided cage. The price you quote is without the discount, for prime customers.

Many thanks for your enquiry.

Can you crack one of these open and install inside a PS4?

I'm not sure that counts as a "similar one" :smiley:

It's 3.5", it's not an external drive, and it's £183.07!

dont think this is a deal 2.5" used to be on sale in Sainsbury for £99. yes its too big for ps4, havnt checked inside ps4 pro

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/seagate-4tb-expansion-disk-99-sainsbury-s-instore-2566762

GREAT PRICE! great drive, use it for my travels

Amazon do a similar one for £99.99.

That said, the quality of the current one seems superior and for that reason I am giving off plenty of heat...

Regards

I never noticed yesterday that this is a portable drive as it doesn't say in the header. 4tb for £100 for a 3.5" isn't particularly exciting but portable is reasonable. although the 3tb WD refurb I missed at £56 is a much better bang for the buck

Are these the type of things you can plug in the back of a Samsung TV? for recording?

Smart tv suggests I can record stuff?

thanks op, has anyone not received the 4.50 update yet? I am still waiting

But needs a power adaptor so not as convenient I believe.

​How do we get the 3 year warranty please?

Not had a seagate in a few years but they used to be very unreliable ;o)

as reliable as a Seagate since they make them...

Are these reliable?

Exactly, its a bargain and if you want extra space its a no brainier, nothing to do with the price of what you are buying it for.

Perfect for my PS4... Put an old 240GB SSD in it as a boot drive/drive for the small amount of games that benefit from SSDs last night. Everything else can go on the external, and this should easily last the lifespan of the console without needing to delete stuff.

Will any external hard drive work on the PS4 Slim with update 4.5?

Thanks OP; bought one as soon as I saw this last night. I travel a lot for work and have a PS4 Slim coming today so this was perfect timing. Recently had a WD My Book fail so don't think one can ever be certain who is better. Would take this over a refurb any day.

I remember it was seagate drives that had a 'period' of high failure rate drives. I think it was the 3TBs?
Since Seagate bought Maxtor, are the drives the same? what about the failure rate on these? still luck of the draw?

Never owned a maxtor drive, so asking before I buy xD

Thanks

30 day warranty vs 3 year warranty.No thanks. Out of Stock anyway.

Solid deal, got myself one. Cheers!

I still think the refurbished 4tb mybook drive is better

Heat

Not sure it's worth using with the PS4 considering it's over half the price of the actual console. Good for general storage though.

heat op... very convenient find for me you legend :smile: I payed 100 for a 4tb seagate portable hard drive for my xb1 about 6 months ago and have not seen another 4tb for around 100 since... so this 4tb maxtor for my ps4 will stop me from needing to delete games/recordings constantly to make room for a new beta/demo/game every couple of weeks (it's so frustrating)

thanks very much :sunglasses:

​i agree, payed 100 for a 4tb seagate ror my xb1 and now 100 for this maxtor for my ps4, very rare that you see a 4tb external hard drive for less than 115-120 quid

Presumably this will feature a Samsung drive using SMR technology?

2.5" or 3.5"?