£369 from Richer sounds but with 6 years guarantee .

The basics of HDR are that High Dynamic range is completely separate to 4K, the pixel density produces a sharper picture but HDR produces more life-like colours Be is measured in colour depth (usually 12 bit of 10 bit) and brightness (nits)

There are 2 competing formats of HDR, Dolby ( 12 bit) and 10-bit, but there is also 8-bit, which allows a TV without the ability to produce the a full range of extra colours to emulate 10-bit HDR and improve on the normal picture somewhat.

Dolby is technically the better of the two but isn't supported as much; both Xbox one s and PS4 Pro only support 10-bit (with some/many 8-bit TVs able to fool them into thinking they are 10-bit) while Netflix and Amazon support Dolby too on some services. However, many TVs with Dolby HDR can also be patched to include 10-bit HDR as the tech has less requirements than Dolby.

Hope that didn't confuse things more.

Won't buy anything even a penny from this shop it's a nightmare

Over a week later and I'm still chasing around, not worth the hassle

I should have taken heed of earlier posts, but looks like I've walked into a similar situation.
Order placed, no confirmation, no delivery, and the money has been taken from my account.

Now begins the impossible mission of getting in touch with them, I've tried emailing but without a response as yet. I can see this turning into me raising a chargeback on my card.

Try this, I have progress ... [email protected]

Good deal, purchased one. Arrived today and screen was completely smashed, it happens, no big deal right? Wrong Sky are a complete nightmare to contact, pass you around and around with nobody taking ownership of the accessory department. Link in email doesn't work and I'm no further ahead after an evening of stress. Go with a decent company this isn't worth saving a few quid for.
L*

Ordered, but no delivery. Contacted Sky who just passed me around and were of no help. Can't even get a refund right now.

there is no mention of the guarantee?
Is there a standard 1 year or no?

this same tv was free from SKY last year black friday deals now they must have tons left http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/sky-black-friday-deals-extended-until-11th-dec-2551082

You literally comment this on every relevant TV thread. We all know how u feel about 8 bit hdr.

"Nice set, decent price and very good reviews"
I was going to buy one of these just after Xmas but the reviews put me right off.

Erm, read last paragraph. Your right though, I should amend my post a little really..

I, like you, wouldn't buy one.

I just went for the UHD premium stamp of approval meaning a TV with the certification has everything you need/should have for proper SUHD 4K HDR10 picture viewing. I got the 55"KS7000. If I had bought anything less it would have done my head in, especially at the prices nowadays.

This TV is ok if you just want a 'big 4K TV because big 4K TV' and would be fine for 90% of people.

I only got the KS7000 because 1. I had the extra money spare and 2. I wanted the best HDR10 gaming TV, that you don't have to sell a kidney for, for the PS4 Pro (and Scorpio when it comes along).

Don't just get it because it says 4K though because, as JaydeeUK1 says, you can get top end 1080p TVs at this price that will play normal Tv and blu rays miles better. Not that much 4K about at the minute, unless your gaming.

A great article. And almost two years old! No wonder retailers are attempting to get rid of this model, it's simply no good for UHD or accurate colours. A shame, because overall I think LG have overtaken Samsung in the midrange segment.

this not real 4k this a cheap lg RGBW panel http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/rgbw-201510084189.htm and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xBT-UDAHX8

Well get a decent 1080p set then, a last gen top range Sony that someone is flogging to get their 4k fix will be light years ahead of this.

The rgbw sets cannot display 3840 horizontal pixels and 2160 vertical pixels at the same time with a colour signal. It gets 4k certification because black and white images aren't affected.

Autocold, this isn't a 4k TV, it's 2.8k. Crap HDR is the least of your worries.

It's funny, it's like when Steve jobs said there's no point in have a screen with more pixels than a PPI higher than 323 pixel per inch because apparently the human eye can't see and tell the difference and that's why apple called it the 'retina display'
and guess what? You can easily tell the difference it's a load of bs.

What's the warranty like? 1 year?

Thanks, ordered!

The average human eye can't see more than 10 million colours, unless you're a freak and have the mystical 4th cone ( which some people do have btw).

So having billions of colours is meaningless to most of us because we can't see them.

Point being, the difference between HDR on a 8 bit and 10 bit isn't that much.

4K Colour? I think you may be getting confused, you've confused some of the users here, that's for sure.

Dolby Vision is built upon HDR-10 but as such is proprietary and brings with it additional licensing costs. It's also perceptually encoded HDR, you lose picture data during the encoding process. Yuck. It also requires metadata to be passed all the way down the picture chain which causes innumerable problems for everyone.

Hybrid Log Gamma HDR is the better technical implementation; it's an open standard with no licensing costs, is backwardly compatible with SDR through the production and editing workflow and is defined as a broadcasting standard.

HLG is technically more proficient and is better designed. I'm not against DV as it brings a measurable improvement to the picture. I don't think it should be the dominant form of HDR (and it may well end up not being, due to added cost, and added complexity - whereas HLG is more easily adoptable by broadcasters, distributors and manufacturers).

DV can do 12-bit but we barely even have an acceptable range of 10-bit panels on the market. The capabilities of these panels isn't going to be anywhere near what DV's reference mastering level is, so whatever you watch, your peaks will be clipped.

A relevant quote from LightIllusion, who know what they're talking about:


Some light (boom boom) reading:
http://www.lightillusion.com/uhdtv.html (NB the EOTF comparisons, and intended calibration levels)
http://uk.rtings.com/tv/learn/hdr10-vs-dolby-vision

Sadly you have to get nerdy to fully appreciate the differences between these two (three?!) emerging HDR standards. I'm hopeful that eventually, everything will just play nice together. Until then we've got some interesting times ahead!

can someone mention the warranty it comes with when we buy in sky ?

Nope there's a big difference buddy. One can display 16 million colours the other can display over a billion individual colours. So them so called tech guys aren't very educated on tech.

Huge difference.

Down to personal preference,but I had the 49 inch version from Sainsbury's in January and ended up taking it back.even at its best the picture was smudgy .the standard hd just wasn't crisp enough either.i was using sky q and a high speed hdmi.

Thanks, I'd actually forgotton about the PS4 HDR update for all models.

The 12bit nature of Dolby Vision isn't as much of an advantage today because even premium TV panels are still 10bit.

Just to add to your comment, that HDR is available on all PS4 consoles, not just the Pro. But the PS4 console has to detect the TV having HDR for it to be used on the PS4, can't just stick a PS4 to any old TV like a crappy Blaupunkt or Polaroid and expect the HDR setting on the PS4 to be available.

I bought this TV end of last year for 360£, was happy with it, not mind blowing picture quality going up from 1080p, but I've not seen any high end 4k so could all be like that.
I sit about <1m from my TV so smaller screen is perfect

Oh stand is garbage so bear that in mind, u might want to stickit down

What's the warranty with sky on this tv? Can't seem to find it on the website

I got this really cheap at around £250 for a 43" with discounts from friends and family etc. Disappointed with picture and would not recommend. My old 2009 Samsung HDTV seems a better quality display when comparing against the so called 4k (only way I could view was on Prime Video), this now bothers me.

The price I got was good, now cannot justify to the wife that I want a better replacement, having just bought this fairly new.

On the plus side. the smart features are good and simple to use with excellent connectivity. However, LG app store is poor on WebOS, go with an Android OS if you care.

49inch version - £20 more here:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/331774560990?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Great info, much appreciated :smiley:

Excellent price now at richer sounds with warranty but lack of freesat a deal breaker for me

http://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/abfe79f see this a cheaper RGBW lg panel thats why so cheap

So is this 4k or not...

Not the point. It's advertised as 4k, but you can'tt get a 4k colour image from it. Sooner people stop buying rgbw sets the better.

Absolutely perfect :smile:, thanks for breaking this down

Yes. It's not as complicated as some make out. 8bit screens display several million different colours. 10bit displays over a billion different colours. It's a big difference.

The basics of HDR are that High Dynamic range is completely separate to 4K, the pixel density produces a sharper picture but HDR produces more life-like colours Be is measured in colour depth (usually 12 bit of 10 bit) and brightness (nits)

There are 2 competing formats of HDR, Dolby ( 12 bit) and 10-bit, but there is also 8-bit, which allows a TV without the ability to produce the a full range of extra colours to emulate 10-bit HDR and improve on the normal picture somewhat.

Dolby is technically the better of the two but isn't supported as much; both Xbox one s and PS4 Pro only support 10-bit (with some/many 8-bit TVs able to fool them into thinking they are 10-bit) while Netflix and Amazon support Dolby too on some services. However, many TVs with Dolby HDR can also be patched to include 10-bit HDR as the tech has less requirements than Dolby.

Hope that didn't confuse things more.

The size thing is certainly true of pixels but HDR is about colour and, yes, it's noticeable for gaming and for movies that use HDR. 8-bit HDR is just 'pretending' to be HDR, it's an emulation. To many HDR is more important than the resolution.

That said, 8-bit HDR is still better than none but PS4 Pro and Xbox One S have both had some trouble identifying it as HDR on some TVs.

I don't get when it says it's hdr and people on here say that it's not true hdr can someone please explain this to me because I'm after a new TV to play my PS4 pro on.

Is this suitable for console gaming? (Ps4 pro/Scorpio)

unless your buying a 60" + set your eyes wood hardly notice the difference on a smaller size tv like this. That's what I've been told by numerous tech people who know what there on about

Slightly gutted I bought an LG 42inch 1080p panel at £300 a few months back now!

Only an 8-bit panel for those interested in HDR, so won't show the full benefit of HDR. Still good for the price.

£369 from Richer sounds but with 6 years guarantee .

Yes, I acknowledged that above.

Very limited collection and a different spec :smiley:

Is this a smart tv?

Collection (from HD2 1UA or M1 J28) is free:

Next Day Delivery or Choose a Day - despatched when in stock £14.95
Standard Delivery up to 4 working days from despatch £9.95
Premium Delivery. Saturday. £19.95
Collect from Huddersfield Store HD2 1UA. Please bring ID & the card you paid with. FREE
Collect from East Midlands Store M1 J28. Please bring ID & the card you paid with. FREE

That's different spec (i think) / model number and they charge min £10 for P&P

Slightly cheaper here:
[ http://www.appliancesdirect.co.uk/p/43lh604v/lg-43lh604v-43in-inch-smart-led-tv ]
£324.97