Bargain for a 512GB SSD at current prices. Not sure it'll be honoured, but worth a try.
Usually dispatched within 1 to 2 months.
Price increased to £87.05 as of 7:36am
- whw
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powerbrick
16 Mar 1711#9
wrong, v300, get it right :stuck_out_tongue:
edit: first versions of v300 were fine, comparable with the rest of the market, then they decided to swap out the flash chips with Kellog's Frosties and hence the speed was greatly reduced.
Steelman111
17 Mar 173#25
After what Kingston did with the V300's I'm probably never going to buy a Kingston SSD again, it also makes me doubt the quality of all of their other products.
Think about that for a moment. Even if it was just once in their history - they were caught downgrading SSD's and selling them to people who were under the belief that they were getting the same SSD that the reviewers had gotten when in fact they were getting a shoddy cheaper version that didn't perform as well, how can you trust that the company isn't doing it elsewhere but hasn't been found out yet?.
That one mistake has lost them someone who would otherwise have bought this product and I won't be the only one that feels the same about what they did.
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theQube
16 Mar 17#1
Worth a punt.
dxx
16 Mar 172#2
Kingston, though. Don't trust that the product you receive will match the product they describe it as being. They're a dodgy company.
derp1664 to dxx
16 Mar 17#3
They were very shady once, true... but they are the largest memory manufacturer in the world so they must be doing something right :P
powerbrick
16 Mar 171#4
Ordered.
Still waiting for my WD black 4TB that was cheap, ordered that 8 weeks ago.
derp1664 to powerbrick
16 Mar 17#6
How cheap was the WD black? Must've missed it I've been looking for one of those
118luke
16 Mar 17#5
Ordered. Very good price and I'm in no rush for it
powerbrick
16 Mar 171#7
£119.99, retail boxed version, 5yr warranty, still on order had a couple of emails saying they are trying to source stock.
derp1664
16 Mar 17#8
Nice find. Worth the wait if you get it.
powerbrick
16 Mar 1711#9
wrong, v300, get it right :stuck_out_tongue:
edit: first versions of v300 were fine, comparable with the rest of the market, then they decided to swap out the flash chips with Kellog's Frosties and hence the speed was greatly reduced.
No this is the business class KC400 they were shady with the V300 iirc
spannerzone
16 Mar 17#12
Good price and well worth a punt, yes they might have been deceptive scumbags and switched the innards on their V300 SSD drives but I imagine they'd have learnt their lesson :smile:
nublets2k
16 Mar 17#13
Woops my bad!
Uncommon.Sense
16 Mar 17#14
I have a few of these disks, they are actually very good.
See the review HERE! for more details, easily as good as a Samsung etc. :smiley:
matt101101
16 Mar 17#15
That's a good price; comparable to when SSDs weren't crazily expensive.
Heat added, OP. :smiley:
dxx
16 Mar 171#16
"Once" implies that it isn't a continuing issue with the company's products.
K1LLER_HORNET
16 Mar 17#17
:laughing:
Vomit
16 Mar 17#18
Ordered, hope it goes through. It says:
Estimated delivery:
4 April 2017 - 4 May 2017
thekanester
16 Mar 171#19
And unless you have compelling evidence to the contrary then it's a valid implication and your assertions are hearsay at best.
CS82
16 Mar 171#20
I've had two of their 128gb SSDs quite a few years ago (looks same as picture), both died on me; first two hard drives I've ever had fail in my life! Although there's a good chance they have refined their parts I don't think I'd ever give them the benefit of doubt again!
derp1664
17 Mar 171#21
Well then, the burden of proof lies with you. Enlighten us.
GwanGy
17 Mar 17#22
Its nice work if you can get it ...
TheGuardian
17 Mar 17#23
very tempting. however the reviews don't seem very promising
After what Kingston did with the V300's I'm probably never going to buy a Kingston SSD again, it also makes me doubt the quality of all of their other products.
Think about that for a moment. Even if it was just once in their history - they were caught downgrading SSD's and selling them to people who were under the belief that they were getting the same SSD that the reviewers had gotten when in fact they were getting a shoddy cheaper version that didn't perform as well, how can you trust that the company isn't doing it elsewhere but hasn't been found out yet?.
That one mistake has lost them someone who would otherwise have bought this product and I won't be the only one that feels the same about what they did.
CharlieBravo
17 Mar 17#27
Great price, cyber Monday day territory. Shame about the long wait but if you're planning a new build, this is a no brainer
whw
17 Mar 17#28
Price increased to £87.05 as of 7:36am
Mitster
17 Mar 17#29
Have some heat my friend :smile: Bargain!
jaydeeuk1
17 Mar 17#30
Looking to get 8 ssds acting as raid 10 in a database server ( will have heavy use during office hours only) enterprise drives seem overly expensive and from test sites offer no extra reliability over consumer class. Had been looking at the 850 pro but are these a decent option too?
oldskoolpug
17 Mar 17#31
What are the benefits of solid state ?
lugsy3 to oldskoolpug
17 Mar 171#32
All about speed, pc operating boot up time will load so much quicker and any other program, game you put on it. For me as a pc gamer it's a necessity.
michaeljb to oldskoolpug
17 Mar 171#33
increased read/write speeds, decreased heat, noise, power consumption.
DingoDirk
17 Mar 17#34
The chances of this ever arriving are extremely slim.
ST3123
17 Mar 171#35
This. They also enjoy greater reliability as no moving parts so it cant mechanically fail in the same way a normal hdd can. On the negative though there is a limit to how many times data can be rewritten, which was an issue on early ssds, though i doubt it is something people would run into during the normal lifespan of a modern ssd...
jokinjp
17 Mar 17#36
Looks good although I'm still looking out for a good priced sub £100 1TB SSD for a iMAC 2011.
The Superdrive got screwed up when one of the kids put a sd card in and tried to fish it out. Want one to replace the superdrive and speed up my Mac.
spaghettihooha to jokinjp
17 Mar 171#38
You might be waiting a while.
KhanRuss to jokinjp
17 Mar 171#39
Yeah you're gonna be waiting a long time, don't see that happening any time soon
gaz84
17 Mar 17#37
My 1TB HDD just did a number on me and died. Already have a 128GB Kingston in my PC that came free with my mobo. Zero problems so far (a year). So I would recommend anyone pick one up for that price.
They don't take the pennies until shipped right? Doesn't matter, just forgot.
tanked
17 Mar 171#40
Went off to make a cup of coffee, came back, "Add to Basket" - its now £186 :disappointed:
fishmaster
17 Mar 171#41
I bet they even had the audacity to say "They're great!"
DingoDirk
17 Mar 17#42
No longer for sale via Amazon directly.
It's vaporware anyway.
gaz84
17 Mar 172#43
That's one expensive cup of coffee :neutral_face:
motionwerk
17 Mar 171#44
It hurts a little bit more in the toilet.
BlackAle
17 Mar 172#45
I'd avoid the nonsense of RAID'ing SSD's, if you need high IOPS performance, choose a suitable NVME M.2 drive.
dxx
17 Mar 17#46
Those drives are still on sale, aren't they?
jaydeeuk1
17 Mar 17#47
Its mainly for reliability and uptime rather than outright speed (databases are fairly well tuned), have a raid 10 SSD setup (v expensive enterprise drives) with hot spares at the moment on a server thats a couple of years old and been happy with it. Does take a bit of hammering, 10+gb a day read/write so looking to offload some databases to another server.
BlackAle
17 Mar 171#48
Write is the only thing that matters, 10GB/day is absolutely nothing, the enterprise drives will probably last for many decades.
Reading that again... I hope you're backing up those databases.
jaydeeuk1
17 Mar 17#49
Of course.
derp1664
17 Mar 17#50
Enterprise drives are just rated for greater endurance & reliability (at a higher temperature / workload) but of doesn't mean they'll necessarily achieve it in practise. They also generally have higher performance and some form of error correction. All depends on the working environment though tbh. I would just avoid any drives with cheap drives with MLC / TLC NAND or as mentioned consider NVME instead of RAID
derp1664
17 Mar 17#51
Didn't see your reply here. As above BlackAle is right 10GB/day is nothing for enterprise drives
ST3123
17 Mar 17#52
I ordered one of these even though if I'm honest the 128gb Kingson SSD I have as a boot drive now is adequate as I have a separate 1TB SSHD for Steam games and a regular HDD for less exciting stuff like documents and pictures. That said my existing SSD is at least 3 years old and well out of warranty so this way I can at least upgrade to a newer bigger drive and sell my old one for a bit off the price.
Just not sure what I'll use the extra space for since the 128GB does for Windows 10 and the applications I use. Guess I could put a couple of my most used games on there for faster loading then the SSHD...
finknottle
17 Mar 17#53
Thanks OP, ordered last night and have got a 5th April - 4th May delivery estimate.. Don't see why this shouldn't be fulfilled if Amazon can source the stock. I also put in a Flubit demand and got an offer of £84-something, but by the time I got round to checking it this afternoon it had expired... :disappointed: Don't know why Flubit seem to have shortened the expiry times on their offers.
jorg
17 Mar 17#54
just got the dreaded cancellation email :disappointed:
stupascoe
17 Mar 17#55
also had the cancellation email. :disappointed:
AJ`
17 Mar 17#56
Got the cancellation email.
derp1664
17 Mar 17#57
Cancelled.
This drive did shoot up to '#1 best seller in hard drives' so cancellations hardly surprising if they got thousands of orders :smile:
dombards
17 Mar 17#58
I got the cancellation email too. Two in two days!!
mwilliams31
17 Mar 17#59
Mine is cancelled too. Not acceptable to cancel due to having too many orders though, their system should take an item out of stock when they have none left. Email says due to misprice.
wavylines
17 Mar 17#60
cancelled, well it was worth a try atleast :stuck_out_tongue:
thekanester
17 Mar 17#61
That is correct, but they no longer advertise the 120GB V300 drive with the advertised speed of the 505A (~450MB/s) and supply the 521A (~170MB/s), so there is no longer an issue with bait and switch.
That was all done and dealt with in Q1 2014 and I think most sensible people understand that. You can't just mention half-baked crap and espouse it as truth - that's what dumb folk do.
Steelman111
17 Mar 171#62
Love the passive aggressiveness of your post.
Yeah I'm completely dumb for having trust issues with a company proven to bait and switch, just because it happened once means it will never happen again right? They've definitely learnt their lesson right? After all a business that is out to earn money always has the customers best interests at heart and this kind of thing was just a big screw up and misunderstanding totally wasn't intentional, I'm so blind and dumb! thank you for showing me the light!
:disappointed:
powerbrick
17 Mar 17#63
oh well, was worth a punt :disappointed:
daudiamd
17 Mar 17#64
Amazon cancelled
thekanester
17 Mar 171#65
Whoah there feller. I was replying to dxx's post which implied that Kingston were still advertising one speed and selling another, which is simply not true.
I don't think passive aggressive is the description you're looking for either, but if you're going to vociferously spout stuff that is plain wrong and uninformed in a public forum and try to convince others that what you're saying is the truth then you can expect to get called on it.
derp1664
17 Mar 17#66
Yes but they could decide to not honour it due to large volume of sales. Selling 50 at a loss/lower-margin is very different to selling 5000 at a loss/lower-margin even for a company like Amazon
derp1664
17 Mar 171#67
I was going to reply to the "Those drives are still on sale, aren't they?" comment before but decided to just ignore it & save myself the drama. You took the bullet, thankyou good sir :smile:
skipraider
17 Mar 17#68
PlSSED off now...I'm writing to my MP about Amazons TAX situation blah blah....
TehJumpingJawa
17 Mar 17#69
Surprised they claimed it was a misprice; while cheap it was hardly beyond the realms of imagining. Inability to source stock would have been completely understandable.
matedodgy
17 Mar 17#70
Totally agree.
whw
17 Mar 171#71
I'll back you up. If we have to consider turning the UK into a tax haven to compete with the EU, the least these corporate tax avoiding companies can do is throw us a bone when they've been caught mispricing. Won't someone think of the HUKDers?
tempt
17 Mar 171#72
Managed to get a one month extension of Prime after whinging on chat.
MrMazzyBoy
17 Mar 17#73
Amazon cancelled :disappointed:
matt101101
17 Mar 17#74
I'm not surprised they cancelled this as a misprice, as opposed to saying they couldn't source stock. Even when SSDs were cheap, these KC400s were never one of the drives which were dropping down to the ~£130/TB mark.
According to CCC, the cheapest Amazon have ever sold the KC400 in 512GB capacity for is ~£125 and that was June last year. It's no surprise that with a much weaker Pound and much higher NAND prices, they're not willing to sell you one now for £87.
Vomit
17 Mar 17#75
Sad times. Cancelled too.
ST3123
17 Mar 17#76
Cancelled as well, a bit disappointing but not going to complain as I have had some very good deals on Amazon lately and they have honoured some other mispriced items I have ordered. Still a shame though and I was quite surprised too as it isn't really an unfeasible low price as I don't think the SSDNow range is a particularly high end range. Perhaps the kind of price they might have on a lightening deal, though maybe a bit low for an everyday price.
That said, storage prices are atrocious lately and retailers have the perfect excuse for their rip off prices in brexit. Would advise anyone wanting a HDD/SSD to hold off right now or get absolutely fleeced with present pricing, if you absolutely have to have one get it on eBay or something, don't support the current pricing model.
Anyway back on topic, Amazon definitely seem to cancel PC and component misprices much more readily than other categories, I don’t think I have had one under-priced PC part get through yet have had headphones and some food items, Can only assume the profit margins aren’t wide enough on the PC gear for them to absorb much loss….
118luke
17 Mar 17#77
Hope you dont drive anything from the VW group or own a samsung phone then
louiselouise
18 Mar 17#78
Was wondering how others had got on. I've had bottles of wine cancelled and various other things (not just PC parts), so it's just bad luck.
TELLL
26 Mar 17#79
giv it half a year,the price may drop to where it was.
powerbrick
6 Apr 17#80
That WD 4TB black for £119 has just been dispatched, coming on Saturday :smile:
derp1664
6 Apr 17#81
Haha that took a while :laughing:
Still, nice result in the end
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edit: first versions of v300 were fine, comparable with the rest of the market, then they decided to swap out the flash chips with Kellog's Frosties and hence the speed was greatly reduced.
Think about that for a moment. Even if it was just once in their history - they were caught downgrading SSD's and selling them to people who were under the belief that they were getting the same SSD that the reviewers had gotten when in fact they were getting a shoddy cheaper version that didn't perform as well, how can you trust that the company isn't doing it elsewhere but hasn't been found out yet?.
That one mistake has lost them someone who would otherwise have bought this product and I won't be the only one that feels the same about what they did.
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Still waiting for my WD black 4TB that was cheap, ordered that 8 weeks ago.
edit: first versions of v300 were fine, comparable with the rest of the market, then they decided to swap out the flash chips with Kellog's Frosties and hence the speed was greatly reduced.
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/western-digital-black-4tb-3-5-internal-hard-drive-119-99-amazon-2614164
See the review HERE! for more details, easily as good as a Samsung etc. :smiley:
Heat added, OP. :smiley:
Estimated delivery:
4 April 2017 - 4 May 2017
Think about that for a moment. Even if it was just once in their history - they were caught downgrading SSD's and selling them to people who were under the belief that they were getting the same SSD that the reviewers had gotten when in fact they were getting a shoddy cheaper version that didn't perform as well, how can you trust that the company isn't doing it elsewhere but hasn't been found out yet?.
That one mistake has lost them someone who would otherwise have bought this product and I won't be the only one that feels the same about what they did.
The Superdrive got screwed up when one of the kids put a sd card in and tried to fish it out. Want one to replace the superdrive and speed up my Mac.
They don't take the pennies until shipped right? Doesn't matter, just forgot.
It's vaporware anyway.
Reading that again... I hope you're backing up those databases.
Just not sure what I'll use the extra space for since the 128GB does for Windows 10 and the applications I use. Guess I could put a couple of my most used games on there for faster loading then the SSHD...
This drive did shoot up to '#1 best seller in hard drives' so cancellations hardly surprising if they got thousands of orders :smile:
That was all done and dealt with in Q1 2014 and I think most sensible people understand that. You can't just mention half-baked crap and espouse it as truth - that's what dumb folk do.
Yeah I'm completely dumb for having trust issues with a company proven to bait and switch, just because it happened once means it will never happen again right? They've definitely learnt their lesson right? After all a business that is out to earn money always has the customers best interests at heart and this kind of thing was just a big screw up and misunderstanding totally wasn't intentional, I'm so blind and dumb! thank you for showing me the light!
:disappointed:
I don't think passive aggressive is the description you're looking for either, but if you're going to vociferously spout stuff that is plain wrong and uninformed in a public forum and try to convince others that what you're saying is the truth then you can expect to get called on it.
According to CCC, the cheapest Amazon have ever sold the KC400 in 512GB capacity for is ~£125 and that was June last year. It's no surprise that with a much weaker Pound and much higher NAND prices, they're not willing to sell you one now for £87.
That said, storage prices are atrocious lately and retailers have the perfect excuse for their rip off prices in brexit. Would advise anyone wanting a HDD/SSD to hold off right now or get absolutely fleeced with present pricing, if you absolutely have to have one get it on eBay or something, don't support the current pricing model.
Anyway back on topic, Amazon definitely seem to cancel PC and component misprices much more readily than other categories, I don’t think I have had one under-priced PC part get through yet have had headphones and some food items, Can only assume the profit margins aren’t wide enough on the PC gear for them to absorb much loss….
Still, nice result in the end