Road atlases are for the weak. I use my knowledge of the stars to navigate.

I use a homing pigeon strapped to the roof of the car...

They say the lexus is the Japanese mercedes

If it's a VW it's probably lying to you :smiley:

Good-bye thanks for your brief visit.

​I hope you aren't representative of the user base here, my stay will be very brief if I have to deal with many others like you.

I think it's you that needs to engage your brain, and I'm very calm thank you.

​Calm down, keyboard warrior.

Engage your brain and maybe you'll figure it out all on your lonesome.

Kirku we have already discussed that you get no additional information with Google maps off line and can not re route, so why did you make that comment?

I received an email saying that there were no vehicles left.. then received a voicemail this afternoon saying that due to the level of interest they had been in touch with the finance company to see if they could get the same deal for factory orders which they have now agreed.. There is however a question about the VED changes.. I received a quote/forms etc which stated the prices on this deal however was advised that they would confirm if the price is impacted due to VED changes and wouldn't process until I agreed any change in price. I think the VED for the 18 months based on the new rules would be £90 for the first 12 months and £65 for the following 6 months so £155 so £8 odd per month more possibly.. wait and see if they can absorb this...

Yes, all leasing cars are 0 road tax for you.
Not sure what your point is.
Mine was that for a lease deal, I would rather go for a diesel car if is the same money, as you get more torque and better mileage. Road tax is paid by lease company, DPF should last for 2 years and so on

​Download maps for offline use, then.

Had no trouble doing this on multiple European road trips, including a 7 country 6 week jaunt.

The deal has expired.

Why doesn't link work ?

Get an app like Drivemode on Android, lets you run most things hands free when you get the hang of it. Even reads out your whats app messages and lets you reply via voice only... its not perfect but its better to sound like a tool than 6pts on your licence.

They don't tell you because it's not factored into the deal and in 18 months 2nd hand values could be different from todays estimated value as in a PCP.

I was told there was only ever one- this was a fishing listing CO{LD

It's a PCH not a PCP.

They do not tell you how much you will have to pay to keep the car after the lease period expires.
Obviously you cannot have a £20,000 car for just over £3000. It does not add up!
You can be sure the sum will be substantial.

Expired.

Phoned up to take the deal but they said the dealership sold all the stock so quickly. Gutted.

This is expired. I called Applied Leasing - they only had 2 available and both are now gone.

Is it? Evidence? I don't think there are many of them around given they're at best, fourteen years old.

It is more likely that there are currently more mkV Golfs than mkIV.

Most unreliable Golfs, yet its one of the most common on the roads?

Yes kirku, that is OK when in this country but if you go abroad it's not so easy. So many complaints on this and other forums as to how bad the feel at home type contracts let them down abroad.

It was a joke monkey, with reference to me being corrected. Sorry you did not see it, no offence taken.

Maybe. But are they zero road tax?

Yes, it's 1 year breakdown cover with Kia. The last 2 years of the 7 year warranty is also more limited as to what's covered as well (think it's engine and drive train?). Plus the warranty is only tranferable with certain limitations imposed. Still a great package but the 5 years breakdown with Hyundai seemed better for us. We had a go in the Picanto but even though it's effectively from the same motor group the i10 is massively better imo. A real class leader (we tried VW up and Seat Mii also and still went back to the i10, which surprised us both).

I know Hyundai's CEO has said they aim to be the world's biggest car maker and TBH I wouldn't bet against it happening.

PS What do you think of your i10?

Seen so many people like this completely misunderstanding the changes in march . All the changes pretty much did was increase the fines and points penalty for things that you already got a fine and points for .

You can still use your phone to have a conversation using some sort of hands free system like the Bluetooth systems in a lot of modern cars .

....each to their own.

This is a good deal in my opinion.

Cold- it's still too much for a car you don't own! Better off saving the money for car you can own

Yes, it uses data. Live traffic info helps the re-routing no end. Got the recent Three data sim deal for around £25 for two years' worth of data. Absolute bargain.

As for the hands free bit. It's no different to a sat nav, except I can say "OK, Google. Navigate me home" and it will.

56.7 out of mine driven the way I drive my TTS. I imagine much more driven gently. Better on short journeys (as relatively more electric only driving) and about 55 on the motorway.

Excellent! How do you do that in the daytime and when skies are overcast at night?

which gives a 55 average, which is exactly why I said (and you prove that) it will perform just as a regular car in terms of mpg. Any modern petrol or diesel will give you that figure nowadays.

Stupid question time, coming off a long time with a company car, notice this is for 18 months, can you get 18 month insurance policies or will it be a case of swapping cars half way through the second years policy to another car?

One garage not taking any orders and another not taking any before June.

Chester Hyundai can't match this deal and say June earliest for any orders.

Really? They've only sold (as of March 2017) some 32k units globally, which is low in my opinion.

Toyota in the same period sold almost 4M Prius hybrid units.

I happened ​to be near a Hyundai dealer in the Boro so I had a look at this car. It was a good spec on the basic model including rear parking and lane assist. The foot operated handbrake was weird. They said Hyundai have oversold these cars and they won't be getting any stock until June at the earliest.

KIA offer a seven year warranty but I don't think they offer the breakdown cover.

KIA is part of the Hyundai Motor Group. I own an i10 too.

They are closed on the weekend.

Do try your local Hyundai dealer - they have been known to match Ioniq deals.

Did anyone manage to get this deal? Tried to get in touch with the guys but it seems Boone answeing

The clue is in the title of this specific car.

From start-up and at speeds of less than 31mph, the Prius for example, automatically operates in EV mode, using its electric motor power alone.

do hybrid cars have an engine coz i dont hear nuffin when they drive past?

Well oddly, some prefer it to say a Toyota hybrid, because it has the advantage of a DCT transmission giving six solid ratios rather than being epicyclic.

Tottenham, Shirley :wink:

I'd be happy to drive this, but there seem to be others that would not be so keen..

Sorry mate not fully concentrating I am listening to the football and can't fully multi task. Totenham have just scored by the way 2-0 now after 33 mins.

I do just that in car parks in supermarkets especially, and when I come back I'm surrounded by those bl00dy great SUV's That don't fit between the lines because their stupid drivers think they might be missing out on something.

A fair price, surely?

Some people like a brand new car for the reliability and warranty issues. As far as reliability is concerned a lot of people feel they are being ripped off and some are if they don't know much about cars. I know by reading car forums the number of people asking questions as to whether it's a fare price or should this happen after so long. These questions don't usually arise with a new car but of course sometimes they do. So I feel a very good reason to have a new car and at the moment lease seams to be the way to go. If I was in the UK it would be the way I would go and as a former mechanic I am not scared of mechanical problems and being ripped off. This is a very good deal the only problem with lease as I see it is getting a replacement at the same time as your present lease runs out for a car of your choice and could mean a compromise.

Not technically true. If your phone is in a cradle then you may press a single button to answer a call, but pressing multiple buttons - like composing a message - is illegal. It is, however, legal to make and receive calls using a hands-free system.

you can't use your phone when driving remember the new rule in March!!!!!

Yes but surely Goole maps uses data, I know you can use a plotted route off line but no re routing or have they updated things I last tried it. Personally I use Here which and I have tried many is the best in my opinion, but each to their own.

On a good run what speed are you maintaining as it won't do that at 70MPH.

If the badge is the only reason then you would have no sense of reasoning.

Personally i prefer using Ollie, my barn owl for navigation.
Rarely gets it wrong at night, and whisper quiet.
Comes with a free hooter too.
All in all, he does an excellent job for me.
Bit of a let down during the day though.....

I think you need to go trawl through a few lease deals. Lots of them have been posted on HUKD's

Nowhere near 83 MPG then?

​Real mpg shows about 60mpg.

k x

If your car gets damaged in the car park at work I would advise a new job , one with co workers who respect each others property . I have never had a car damaged in a work car park .

I see the point about smaller supermarket car parks , all the supermarkets I shop have at massive car parks . If you cannot avoid parking next to somebody you could always mitigate the risks by parking in an end space right up-to the line that wont have a car parking next to you .

Hospitals and city centres usually always have hi rise parking in my experience , it is easy enough to go up a few floors from where everyone is parking and not be sandwiched in-between 2 idiots . Slightly inconvenient but so is paying for damage caused by others .

If you are brave enough to leave your car unsupervised for a week or two in an airport car park then good luck to you . This is not something I have ever fancied

No it doesn't, I have had 2 cars with this engine and 43mpg is more realistic.

Great price for a hybrid which if anything like my lexus will be a very relaxing drive.[/quote]They say the lexus is the Japanese mercedes[/quote]Lexus are more relaiable than Mercedes

I contacted Harratts in Pontefract after seeing this deal...
I had to get them to work the figures a bit to get the deal that suits me (see my comment about GAP, Superguard, smart cover, etc.).

Expensive insurance what..!!!

No it hasn't. Cars have got slightly heavier and got more electrics, dpf's and engine design/emission restrictions. My 1995 Golf 1.9 VE Tdi gave roughly the same fuel consumption as my current Golf 1.9 PD Tdi. The Mk7 2.0 CR Tdi Golfs have a lower fuel consumption.

Or you would keep it for a much longer period of time so the cost over the extended period is less per month.

Looks like a great deal. Looks wise its much nicer than the over priced Prius.

Whats the betting that there will be next to no decent lease deals come november/december time.

Can you share the details of the deal?

it must be a problem with the car, dunno maybe injection or something. I drive pretty conservative with two young kids. 30mpg is pretty bad though :disappointed:

I always thought that, so in my Hybrid I try to get the best out of it, however, the Mrs has a heavy right foot and brakes to late IMO but only drops a few MPG

That's a bit unfair. Let's say you make a fair point re supermarket parking (but not all have huge car parks that do not get full), but what do you do when parking at work, city centres, hospitals, airports, etc. where car parks are full more often than not?

Or you could take your blindfold off before driving and not end up damaging the car yourself

Admittedly cars can get damaged by others in car parks but there is always the option of parking at the far end of any car park away from the bulk of cars . But then imagine the pain of an extra 30 seconds walking to get into asda .

I'll have half a dozen then.

If it was your own car, you would achieve a lower price when selling or trading in, so actually no different.

Scratches and dents depend on the lease firm and their T&Cs. Typically, small areas of chipping, light scratches up to 25mm in length and dents up to 10mm providing paint is not broken are permissible. Any larger it may be prudent to fix them at your cost before the end of term.

I have the megane 1.5dci and I have averaged 51mpg over 12k. I do about 60/40 town/motorway miles. So you must be horsing it everywhere if you get 30mpg! I get about 60mpg on motorways at 70mph. It's a very light car (plastic wings etc) with a frugal engine.

Remember to factor in costs of scrapes, chips, dents etc. At the end what would the bill be?
If you owned the car then you may not bother with minor repairs. With a lease you may get a nice bill.

No worries. It's converted to 9 seats with sleeping and kitchen and the weekend car rides in the back.

I've tried that very technique with my wife navigating. Using a very sophisticated decoding system I can usually get to our destination in reasonable time:

"Left at the roundabout" = right at the roundabout;
"It's the next exit off the motorway" = it's the second exit off the motorway;
"I think we're going the wrong way" = we're going the right way.

​Clues in the 1.5 dci. Look at the honest John mpg reviews from owners.

I keep the good lady in the passenger seat. She can stop and ask passers by for directions at every turn.

To navigate I use a series of complex clicks. Well I say I use, it's actually my driver, flipper. He calls it echo location. Works every time , driving with him is always a pleasure. Well I say always..... apart from the fish breath. I must have a mint or mask it with "Phoenix" or "Africa ". What's the plural for luxury export US? Lexi. Ah haaaaa

I use my mysterious affinity with the planet...

Good luck getting stuck!

Thats OK. If I need to drive into the city I can just use my classic Ford R114 as this is exempt from tax and emissions in London.....don't we all love loopholes.
Ps. I might even get away with using bus lanes. Lol

Just be aware that some, not all, lease companies whack a 10% maximum excess mileage on their vehicles, to avoid arbitrage.

A couple of minor points:

Are you comparing, at best, a thirteen year old Golf to a brand-new car? The mkIV was one of the most unreliable Golfs ever made!

Any dealer who offers anyone a three-month warranty are cowboys. A garage/dealer/trader is liable for any faults that occur with a car for six months, as the law assumes they were developing at the time of sale, and it's virtually impossible for the dealer to prove otherwise.

Lastly - this car would not "go for years".

​i have a 10 year old meganne, please tell me your secret, i barely get 30 mpg.

I've got one of these. Excess mileage is 5.4p+VAT (20%) for the first 10,000 miles over the agreed limit then 7.9p+VAT after that. Pretty reasonable.

I've gone for 10k a year and the premium version on a 3+23 deal. To me it was worth the extra over the SE

Great - they are getting banned from many European cities and getting an extra charge from London. They are expected to get the same treatment from most UK cities in due course.

Therefore, their value is expected to plummet - So okay if you live in the sticks

This is a crazy idea mate.

Firstly, if you buy a car for £800 with a 'warranty' (which under those circumstances would basically be a worthless piece of paper) from a dealer, the actual car would be £250 worth, or maybe less.

Secondly, the Mk4 Golf is just about the worst car in vehicular history, even more troublesome than any other VW Group car - so it's up against some pretty stiff competition.

Here is it's list of known issues;
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/volkswagen/golf-iv-1998/?section=good

It definitely wouldn't last for years, they have only lasted this long because owners have been dumb enough to keep spending money on repairing them.

Voted cold and I did say the 'word' why just like you said in your post

Anybody...?

Cold. No free servicing, insurance or fuel and my Audi R8 has heated seats.

They've rebadged it Lynne you fool.

​Try reading and educating yourself a little more.

It could prevent you exposing yourself as an idiot in the future.

So you could argue the exact opposite.
For the price of an old uneconomical heap that might not last long, you could be driving a brand new car.
Incidentally, show me an 800 pound golf that's half decent and would go for years. I would bet it would be a rusting pile with at least 150k miles on it.
Also where did you get 800 from? 99 a month by 12 is just short of 1200 and 18 months 1800.

I get over 100MPG when I drive from the Petrol station to home, so many MPG the computer can't even tell me, however it is all down hill, but it's a good run, relevant?

Great deal. Fingers crossed there will be deals close to this for the full electric variant. We are on our 2nd Leaf (wife's commuter car) and with the ever increasing range of electric cars that would be my preference. Having any electric car makes me feel like i am offsetting my Golf R's gas guzzling performance :stuck_out_tongue:

Heat from me!

This is why leasing and finance has ruined motoring.

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This deal is very cheap! £99 pcm is great for a new car.

But for that £800 you could get an old Mk4 Golf from a dealer with 3/6month warranty and it would go for years.

Those MPG's though... I get 20 in my MX5 :disappointed:

Using a mobile phone 6 pts ......Having a map spread across your steering wheel & dash RTA ........ Staring into space whilst driving priceless.

Forget all that. I unbutton my shirt, put spittle on my nipples and let them guide me all the way to where I need to be. Works every time.

Perfect time....I got a quote today from local dealer for premium model 206+VAT.
I will ask them if they can price match it.

Any idea what the excess mileage charges might be?

And if you bought the car and then sold it on in 18 months chances are you would be out even more than 3k .

I know people who lease who could afford to go out and pay cash for the cars they lease selling them on 2 years later . But there is the risk that the car will depreciate more than you predict . With a lease if that happens it is not your problem . I am sure plenty of people who went out and bought VAG diesels outright just before the emissions scandal broke felt that pain . And it is not just scandals like that which effect resale , there have been massive safety recalls in the past which no car is exempt from the risk of .

You pretty much said it yourself in your post anyway "I dont get this obsession with driving a brand new car" I am not particularly bothered by that either I just buy used cars but I understand why some people would rather lease for a multitude of reasons .If you want to be driving a new car every 2 years it is the most sensible way to do it .

Full specs on standard model:

Yes. I love Lexi :laughing:

Brilliant, your comment has made my day!

If you can afford around £160 per month, then you can afford to drive this brand new car - what you say doesn't make sense.

A half decent holiday costs £3,000, and that lasts for just 14 days, with nothing to 'keep'.

You can't really run any car at all for much less than £2,000 per year, apart from taking your chances with a banger and hoping you don't have an accident in it.

I think it's more likely that you don't like the badge

What's going on. After 18 month you would be out of 3K and no car. I don't get this obsession with driving a brand new car when you can't afford one. After 18 months it will probably be worth 3K so why not lol.

That is surprising. Me too am looking around and after having ACC in a VW I really want it in my next car. However it's only on high spec cars or standard on expensive ones like Volvo S90, XC90 etc

Shame I don't like the look of this one

This is why it is best to treat manufacturer MPG figures with caution . There are enough sources out there these days to find out real world MPG figures .

You need to learn how to get the best from a hybrid. Google feathering or pulse and glide. There's no way you could figure out the technique to get the best mileage on a 24 hour test drive. The route and driving conditions are a big factor. On the main commute i get 45, on a long run, i get 66.

Looks like they all come with it. Has a surprising amount of kit that others lack at the base model. Full dual zone climate, auto lights, rearview camera, auto emergency braking, lane departure, tyre pressure monitoring.
I am quite impressed, as as lot of cars we are looking at at the moment don't have that sort of stuff till you look at mid-high end models in the range.

Using the stars to guide you is so 2016, it's all about using pure instincts these days! :wink:

Bloody amateurs. I make a Mick Dundee style phone call....



....and wait for a response from my desired destination. Then I go walkabout.

Old school.

Good price, you'd basically lose this in depreciation in the first 18 months anyway.

Could you share your deal for Tekna?
I am shopping for a good deal on electric now.

This particular model has adaptive cruise control? Thought it was a very basic one trim level.

Just to help, I've had one since late January and I get 52mpg on average. This includes a 1 hour commute on A roads and around town. (It has the 17" wheels too). - I'm very pleased with the car overall so far.

you have 9mts upfront

I have this car. Got it on a similar lease deal. My last car was a golf r. So very different cars. The car is cheep and the inside slightly reflects that however it's definitely worth its price. I simply added a Tom tom with one of the new dash mounts. It has adaptive cruise controll and lane assist these are usualy very expensive options on other cars. I don't think I could drive a car without adaptive cruise now

Couldn't agree more.

Google maps is significantly better than any built-in system I've used. It probably saves me at least an hour a week, rerouting round traffic jams and the like.

awesome

I rest my case...


Naturally. Those nasty people in California/at the EU trying to save our lives, eh?

Yes - hence PCH - personal contract hire.

In real terms that is exactly what it does on a good run. If you want an average figure then thats 57 mpg.
As for filtration and visible soot you are correct about it being slightly better. But from a health viewpoint the tiny particles remain and they still do the most damage.

Thanks.
So its a rental car kind of.

​or I just ask alexa

So sad news, it used to be much better quality recently, just like japanese cars in nineties.

Damn, only if you had it on all modern smart phones or could buy a small sat nav from a shop.

I was a bit snobby about hyundai until my wife got an i10 and I'm so impressed with it my next car will probably be a Hyundai. So well-screwed together, very quiet and surprisingly nice to drive. And that 5 year warranty combined with 5 years breakdown cover is the best in the industry. Although, of course, this is not really much of a plus point when leasing.

I use a homing pigeon strapped to the roof of the car...

You really ought to work out the net price per month, i.e. £164.01 per month

- Monthly rental cost: £99.70
- Rental Profile: 9+17
- Annual Mileage: 8k Miles p/a
- Initial Payment: £897.30
- Additional Fees: £360 INC VAT

Initial Payment 897.30 + 360 = 1257.3
Monthly pay 17 * 99.7 = 1694.9

Total pay = 2952.2

per month 2952.2 / 17 = 173 / month

Not sure this is correct but the actual rent is 17 month only for this.

Beat me to it! Well, I use ley lines and sonar at night, just in case.

​i use the magnetic field of the earth :confused:

I've already said: 51 MPG.

So in real terms, it doesn't then. I doubt all of your driving is exclusively on a motorway.


Isn't that better than not removing any at all?

I just ordered a Nissan Leaf Tekna actually - It costs more for the car (£220/m) but considerably less for fuel (we put over £200/m in the tank which will be more like £50 onto the leccy bill with the Leaf).
When our other car goes back (in 14 months), I'll be on the lookout for something like this though.

Hyundai website says 78.5mpg.... I wonder how honest is honest john :smiley:

I lick my finger and just follow the wind

Well gee whatever could the relevance of ones own insurance be when looking at car deals...hmm let me think hmmmm....

Agreed...bought a new Golf 1.6 tdi bluemotion with claimed 70 - 80 mpg...I'm lucky if I get 49 on a long run pile of crap manufacturers figures

Just bought the Ioniq Premium. £1000 down and £204/m for 24months.
The SE has very very little spec. Not a lot more for a very well equipped car (the premium).
Actually really like he car. Surprisingly nice to drive and real world 57mpg (driven hard not efficiently- heavy right foot).

Pah. I use the ocean currents.

no your mpg computer needs recalibrating.

Apart from the dealers not being useless and the cars being reliable then yes

yep, just seen that!! Be mad not to go for this if it suits.. Only reason not to is the badge..

Yep - the title is incorrect - the 9+17 is £2952 too.

£2952..

​Probably as accurate as Hyundai figures bro

Works out the same on the 3+17 deal:
https://leasing.honestjohn.co.uk/car-leasing-companies/independent-brokers/applied-leasing-limited/hyundai/ioniq/158831128/
Which might be easier for some as it's less up-front.

This is a pre dpf, 100bhp, 177 lb/ft of torque and still does 0 to 60 in little over 10 seconds. On a long run at motorway speeds and full tank to full tank it returns just over 74 mpg.
Bought for £750 with full mot and new cam belt just 5k prior to purchase. Even the greenest person out there would understand that the amount of carbon used to produce this new hybrid over running the old Polo would never be possible.
Btw a dpf on a diesel car only serves to cause expensive issues and only removes paticles greater than 0.3 microns. The human nose achieves the same level of filtration thus leaving the dangerous super fine particles to enter our lower respiratory tract and cause the most harm....good system init!

Road atlases are for the weak. I use my knowledge of the stars to navigate.

Better still buy a road atlas and use your brain. If you don't want to use your brain, satnav's are cheap enough to buy.

I have satnav built in. Never use it! Find google maps so much better on my phone.

If it's a VW it's probably lying to you :smiley:

Cool story, bro :stuck_out_tongue:

wtf 3000 spent over just one and half years

Good deal. However it is the basic SE trim. Don't think it comes with satnav.

I doubt you really do.

Why is this with a "Road Bike" Deal tag..?

Just wondering, if there is any issue during the lease period how it works?

Can anyone make me understand how this deAl works.

What is the full price to own the car after all the payments.

Why is this with a "Road Bike" Deal tag..?

I agree, I test drove for 24h the Yaris Hybrid and got pretty much the same mileage as a normal car.

83.1 MPG.

Aren't they diesels?

This is a petrol hybrid...

Well my non-scientific method of clicking on good lease deals on HUKD would suggest that they are much less common than manuals. Even renting one, there's generally quite a mark-up. So it's just nice to see one.

​they certainly are in comparison to manuals.

​quality is as good as any Merc, BMW or Audi.

LOL. I say it's a Toyota with a pretentious badge.

I first heard this from Alan Partridge.

Great deal. I can't seem to get through, guessing they are closed for the weekend

Hot, but actual averaged price is £169.50p/m

Heat for being a good deal, and bonus heat for being one of those very rare automatic deals.

Unusually short term at just 18 months.
£3052 /18 = £169.56 per month.

Great price for a hybrid which if anything like my lexus will be a very relaxing drive.

anyone seen a good pure election version deal?

not had for 2 years

Including my insurance makes this just under £6,000

Good deal
Think in fact it may be cheaper...
26 x 99.70 = 2592.20 + 360 = 2952.20

Really cheap for a hybrid so heat from me

No reason to vote cold :smiley: HEAT