The little I could find seems to suggest it runs fine with most settings up. Just remember GTA is more CPU based and therefore, because these processors tend to throttle a bit, might be a little slower.

How would GTA 5 run on it?

Price has gone up now ...

Let me know what you think :smiley:

Cheers for this, I've ordered one from Scan. Went for a 17" screen but to bring it in on price it was just FHD rather than 4K.

The link was for Arkham Knight lol, I just typed it wrong but I'm assuming you didn't click it. Whatever game you play on this laptop won't be bottlenecked by the RAM, doesn't actually matter what Batman game it is.

Let's say the MAX you could play Arkham Knight was "high" at 1080p at 60fps on this laptop (I don't know, but lets assume this is correct), if you gave it an extra 8GB RAM (to 16GB) it wouldn't improve. That's the simplest way to explain it.

Arkham Knight not Arkham Asylum. Arkham Knight had hell of lot more FPS drops than just one or two.....It also a crash fest of a game.

As you mentioned, Arkham Asylum doesn't need more than 8GB now but check out this article for the game on its bad release. Even the bad port (release) only had 1/2 fps drop, and this text was run with a GTX 980, which was one of the best cards out at the time (and much better than this laptops). It had to be powerful enough for the RAM to be the bottleneck, or else the test would be pointless.

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2015/08/why-you-still-only-need-4gb-of-ram-for-a-great-gaming-pc/

Even when games are VERY badly ported, with maxed out other hardware, the fps difference is 1 or 2 frames per second. I can't show you a video on games that arn't out yet, but I highly doubt you would need 16GB RAM on a GTX 1050Ti for a performance boost lol. I might do my own youtube video showing the absolute BARE-MINIMAL performance difference this makes, because it really is one of the most common misconceptions.

In short more RAM won't make a difference in this gaming laptop, the VRAM will. Even if it was possible to put 800GB RAM in, it still would make no difference because there is only 2GB VRAM. This will be your bottleneck here, and all laptops of similar spec. People voting cold for the 8GB RAM are honestly voting it cold for the wrong reasons.

This is a decent laptop for the price in my opinion, even for the Graphics Card.

EDIT: I also don't blame you or anyone for thinking differently for thinking RAM is super important for gaming. There are websites out there that say you need lots of RAM, but if you notice they link the source as if to say "this didn't come from us". This is because alot of people believe the information to be incorrect. Steam always overshoot the Hardware requirements, mainly because they don't want to troubleshoot people who meet the actual borderline hardware requirements. Some of the Steam games that "require" 8GB can be run on my Grandma's toaster PC for example.

This sounds like my set of requirements :-)

I'm in the market for a gaming laptop, I want one good enough to do VR so that I can bring it into the living room when I want roomscale or more often than not, just have it upstairs for normal gaming.
I was hoping the 1070 or even the 1080 equipped machines would be dropping in price. Work has given me a 2k budget.
I've looked at the Omens before but they only have 3 USB ports which is a bit restrictive for me.

I just dont get laptop gaming.

For best performance batman arkam knight needed 12GB on release though it doesn't know, Quantom Break and Mankind Divided has 16GB recommended though they are bad ports. You don't need16GB per se if you don't really care about performance much but if you value that then that is the recommended specs. I don't know if any titles being ported but it's common sense that as times go on games will require more and more ram.

I've also heard of people having better performance in some games with double the amount of ram even though it's not even on recommended specs. Watch Dogs 2 for example.

I disagree, name me a game and I will happily upload a video of it running it on 8GB RAM. What titles are being ported in the next year that makes you think this?

there is a code abut half of the time i think - usually just 10% though

I think just wait and keep looking. There is a tab on the Outlet page which says coupons. I presume the only ones available are posted there. There was 15% off everything yesterday for St Patrick's Day, but nothing today.

Actually you do in some games though ones that do tend to be bad ports/optimised. Within a year or two it's going to be common so might as well have it now.

How do you get the codes Chris?

you are right. They have even had 20% codes for the aw 15 recently. I just got myself a aw13 with 15% off and absolutely love it. For the money (at the outlet) nothing beats the new alienwares in my opinion

15% was for yesterday... when most peoples cards wouldn't work anyway!
fingers crossed for a working and decent code today :laughing:

just made a fan noise video, and at the end showing how the speakers are easily capable of drowning out any fan noise you can get.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=636kKWrKufY

lol cheers, done a few benchmarks on my channel, keep meaning to do a fan noise video too but games keep getting in the way, even under heavy load tho the fans dont get in the way of the audio

I genuinely think more people should do this kind of stuff. I have respect for people who actually want to help, as opposed to posting non-factproven nonsense.

Take a like my man.

video i made of my HP Omen showing off the speakers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuaTai0HcDI really good for a laptop, 2 front and 2 back.

ROFL

if you look around at reviews you will see the ASUS tend to be throttled more due to the slimline approach they took with the laptops, the Omen like i have is a thick beast with 2 thick fans in and gets throttled a lot less, then MSI's seem to be somewhere in the middle but they're garish as **** and full of bloat (albeit useful customization bloat)

Cheers, I like the Omen because they look less lairy than the MSI ones (there's a chance I'll need to take it to meetings). I've looked at the ASUS ROG too, they seem to do a more toned down in looks version as well as the 'I'm off to a gaming convention' version.

pretty weaksauce gpu but fine for casual gaming.

i just got the w101na with the 1060 and its a beast, also unlike MSI and ASUS gaming laptops it doesnt suffer from loads of throttling due to heat issues.

I know, my bad. Maybe replying to joke comments would be more productive.

You play games on a laptop on the train?

Imagine what society would look like if everyone did that. Better things you can do with that time surely

In what situation do people play on laptops? I find it a bit hard to comprehend.

Are you on drugs?

Its all a pretty good spec for gaming...


..apart from the most important part - The 1050!!

Who knows, some might only be playing games from several years ago, or some people may just love playing recent games with massive frame stutter.
Either way, its a good deal for the spec but 'Gaming' will very much depend on what you're going to attempt to play on it.

I see you completely ignored the calls to backup your claims of an ASUS ROG series with similar if not the same spec for this price.
Why don't you go back and edit your original comment to remove your claim that you clearly can't backup, as otherwise some people might believe your fact-less claim and vote this deal cold. Which would be unfair.

I think he is talking rubbish to be honest

I don't consider a laptop with 8GB RAM to be of excellent spec, especially for a gaming laptop. HP laptops are very cheaply built, not as solid as Dell or ASUS. You can get an ASUS ROG series with similar if not the same spec for this price!

hah must have missed that comment, was about to mention it
tbh thats where i would bite and do without dual storage and take the lower cpu
the higher model is definitely worth the money on the upgrade but the lower entry is attractive
if i had a review that showed the screen was good then it'd be in my basket but the 1st gen screen was good then the last gen ones had a really poor colour coverage. anyone know what panel is in this?

Very interesting...

Have you tried looking on Laptops Direct or SCAN websites? You might have to pay a little more but you will probably get a laptop with an Optical Drive. Some of us still buy software on discs and play regular DVD movies on a laptop. A lot of reviewers are saying that there is hardly any performance differences between a 6th gen and a 7th gen intel chip, so go for a laptop with a 6th gen instead.

they do have mobile versions of the 1050 and 1060, they just put the m on the end anymore, check the link in my original comment, thats benchmarks for the mobile version of the 1050

I didn'y say you require 16GB RAM but you would expect more than 8GB! This laptop does not have an optical drive either; some of us still buy software on discs or play dvd's.
Intel say the 7th gen chips are about 13% faster than the 6th gen, but many tests say that 6th gen are just as good. Try looking at Laptops Direct or SCAN.

or save £100 buying the same model from very using their 10% off code

Does anyone else think that the lady in the photos is gonna get a bad back gaming in that position for long periods? I'm such a dad.

Or you could buy one with i5, but without SSD, from John Lewis for £719.

Even the i5 is massive overkill.

Shame it's an HP. In the last 5 years, two family HP laptops died and stopped booting up within 2 years and a desktop PC had overheating issues due to poor fan design. Their quality control is just not up to the standard of most other manufacturers in my experience.

i7 and a GTX 1050? Holy imbalance Batman.

There really isn't much to complain about at this price. 128ssd + 1tb hdd is perfect for games, an IPS display and even an xbox elite controller? That's pretty damn good.

All 10 series cards are desktop variants as far as I'm aware. If you look at the specs of the card they list on the notebook one - its actually more powerful than the standard 1050 they're testing. The only difference is some of the higher end ones are clocked a little lower.

The main issue is CPU thermal throttling which affects most of the benchmarks adversely. I also never mentioned about playing everything on ultra, looking at those benchmarks the games that it can't 1080p ultra are ones that seem to struggle even on higher cards for the most part - and they're more than playable on high from the looks of it.

You could get a 1050ti or 1060 laptop instead but you're looking at significantly more than 1k and that's without the elite controller.

Also how does it struggle with fallout 4? Compared to previous 950m or 860m laptops its more than playable at 30fps. The 960m for example only managed 24fps there abouts from the same websites benchmarks and those laptops cost a bomb when they were around.

Thanks, some brilliant deals on there

is it the desktop version though? i cant see it anywhere it says it.

I agree its an adequate card but i wouldn't say it's decent, while it can play a few games on ultra it struggles to play others on high.

My main game is Fallout 4 which its struggles with (thats without the high texture pack):
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1050-Notebook.178614.0.html

Have a look at the Dell outlet. Students get 15% off and there are coupons for Alienware laptops

2GB VRAM is going to kill it.

Great for e-sports titles, but for AAA titles, or stuff like GTA? Not so sure...

It's a shame it's the 2GB variant of the 1050. Would be interesting to see benchmarks of the 2GB version vs. the 4GB version because Dell's Inspiron 7000 has the 4GB variant and can be had for around the same cash if you use one of their discount codes.

This right here!....this card is perfect for 1080p, and as its a laptop and youre sitting quite clsoe you could even lower the resolution as you need to in a few years time and still hit playable framerates.

What kind of games you could play that graphic card :confused:

Decent spec- not amazing, but enough for most people. Still quite pricey though.

Don't know about Dell or HP but can certainly vouch for Asus.
Last May for £755 I bought a ROG G750JH-T4188H 17.3-inch Gaming Notebook (Intel Core i7-4700HQ 2.4GHz, 16GB RAM, 750GB HDD, 256GB SSD, Nvidia GeForce GTX780M 4GB GDDR5.
Haven't used it much for actual gaming but it's an excellent alternative kitchen desktop to my main machine.

Nice specs. Is that red glowing keyboard as annoying as it looks?

Be better if it was a 1050ti

It a great all rounder, and the build is superb, but yeah, it's a fingerprint magnet.

Awesome specs. Very tempting.
Just wish it wasn't a fingerprint magnet.