In terms of brand I'd recommend Xiaomi, excellent design and build quality, the software is pretty glitch free and has many useful features without the users needing to be too geeky.

In terms of aliexpress, I've used them a couple of times and I'd use them again. It's worth understanding that aliexpress are not the retailer, they are a marketplace to connect retailers and consumers, a bit like eBay. When I bought my Xiaomi mi max I used the aliexpress app, using the free delivery option, I found the tracking info excellent, although you lose sight of tracking after it arrives in the U.K. as it's the Royal Mail 'signed for' service which doesn't offer tracking until it's delivered.
You can choose not to buy the U.K. warranty, by changing your location to US and just order as normal. After you order, aliexpress give the retailer a number of days to dispatch the order or the order is automatically cancelled and your money refunded, you do have an option to extend this period, my retailer had 5 days to dispatch my phone, they dispatched after 3 or 4 days.
With aliexpress, the retailer doesn't get your money till your order is received and you've confirmed your happy with your order - again via their app.

My phone arrived 21 days after ordering, 3 days to dispatch, 4 days for the Royal Mail to deliver in the U.K. so approx 14 days to get clear customs at both ends and air freight to the U.K. and this was just before Christmas.

Phones with the global rom from aliexpress will come factory sealed, unlike some retailers who install their own versions of the software.

That's how it should work, you'll always find folk with horror stories about all Chinese retailers, but I think the aliexpress model is about as good as you'll get when buying from the Far East.

P.s there shouldn't be any flashing required and it should get updates over wifi as normal, my mi max has had a couple of updates. Quidco was also available for aliexpress but I wouldn't bank on it being paid, I think mine is still pending.

Ordered on the 2nd and it's just arrived

Dreadzone101: You were right as the new case also doesn't fit for the same reasons. I've ordered one from AliExpress which included a photo of the top holes so I can be sure it will fit:

https://m.aliexpress.com/s/item/32791601546.html?trace=wwwdetail2mobilesitedetail&productId=32791601546&productSubject=32791601546&shortkey=UFNzmaaM&addresstype=600

Thanks for your advice.

No, change your location to US as the warranty charge is UK specific, then order as normal - seriously of you do have vision problems I'd look at the xiaomi mi max, that's what I have as my eyesight isn't the best.

I picked one of these up in one of the earlier deals for about £128. Pretty good phone and this is a great price. Heat!

So you probably get a better camera in this but wouldn't the Note 3 Pro be better with the SD650?

Nice price, thanks!

Just came back from HK.
Got the better MediaTek 10-core,3gb ram,64gb rom version.:smiley:

OK I am going to play the noob. If I buy this can I just put my UK sim straight in and it will work or will it need some technical wizardry (flashing, rooting etc)?

Should work straight out the box, i would advise you update as soon as you get through setup because Xiaomi usually release updates pretty frequently.

Says it is "based" on Android 6; how easy/likely is this to be updated to future versions? Is it "normal" or needing any tweaking with the global ROM?

Looking at a cheap stop-gap phone, and it is this, or the Lenovo P2...if this is actual Android without any issues, it's a steal...

I guess the logical reply is - how easy is it to remove any bloat? I'm trying to think of reasons not to get one!

How much is custom taxes?

£165 on ebay with NDD

If Xiaomi do 2 version of a phone i.e MediaTek for the Asian market and the Qualcomm SD for the rest of the world, you buy the SD version.

I want this, just afraid it won't deliver or get lost...

Do people prefer the black or grey colour?

Obvious question what if it goes wrong

Is any one know; if it supports 4G VoLTE calling feature.

did anyone purchased the Warranty? it shows "phone warranties available in the US and Spain." on my screem, how about the UK coustomers?

It is a pain in the butt to unlock bootloader. My first Xiaomi went throgh fine after receiving SMS authorization. On my second Redmi Note4 though, it is giving me famous well known "Could Not Verify" error no matter what I do. Anyone come across it ? Already sent email to Xiaomi and followed some tips and tricks I found online. Still not helping the issue.

Sorry, I have no idea about phones, what is better this or the other offer of the Original Lenovo ZUK Z2 Snapdragon?

its not bloat in traditional sense of apps you can't delete. it's all baked in to miui overlay.

i personally don't think you really need to remove any of it. what i would say is, as this has more baked in, you should get the 3gb version over 2gb. it needs it.

if you really don't like miui i suspect, being a Snapdragon CPU, there will be custom ROMs taking it to more vanilla. XDA is the best bet on that.

with miui that would involve unlocking the bootloader and then flashing, so bit of a pain. again, research XDA forum for the phone and see what people are doing and how to compare against your expertise

Is this easier to change the rom on compared to it's Mediatek brother version ? :laughing:

I feel the miui rom is far too heavy on the Mediatek version otherwise a great phone

Personally I'll never get a phone that doesn't have NFC so I'm just playing devils advocate.

I've read people saying they get 8 Hours screen on time on the RN3. Personally I'd prefer the much snappy performance of the SD650 which is pretty efficient anyway.

Hi,
I'm looking to get this for my daughter, I have quite a limited budget and don't really have much in the way of criteria. Just wanted something that was quite sleek, relatively fast and didn't require any flashing/technological knowhow to get up and running/future maintenance. I've read through the thread and I was wondering if anyone could kindly offer me some advice please.
Would this one be the best to get around this price range? I know its a little bit of a gamble in regards to customs, but worse case how much would this be? Am I correct in assuming the global version, isn't malware ridden or would it still require flashing etc? In the case of a dispute with Ali express, I realise it could be a while before getting my money returned, but would it be returned? Any better alternatives anyone could recommend as opposed to Ali express?
Sorry for bombarding with questions, but having had a look around with my limited knowhow, this one seems most probable.
Thanks

Cheers OP.

Difference between this and the international version????? I'm totally confused.plus do i need the replacement warranty and if not how do i delete it from the order?

Band 20?

Replacement warranty is added.do i need it and if not how do i delete it?

Thanks for the advice, I'll make sure to do that.

They certainly seem very impressive and value for money. You've sort of sold it to me already.Thanks!

Thanks for all the detailed advice. I really appreciate it.

A few more, sorry. Forgot to ask in terms of the warranty, its quite a small price difference so why are so many people opting out of it? Is it not valid in the UK? Are you still required to return it to China? I can see they make reference to an American shipping centre in the link, but I assume international insured shipping makes it more expensive than its worth.
Final point, by selecting the US option, does that mean you get their 2 pin plug by default?

@ lolrita- the warranty charge is uk specific and in theory it should be a good idea - I opted out as the phone I bought had very few reported issues and I was keeping the cost to a minimum. If the phone needs to be returned to China for a warranty repair it'll go in the bin and I won't touch another Xiaomi product again.

Is there any difference between this post and the other post apart from the price. Its the same phone right?

Quite good reviews on this phone. SU6 still working so theoretically I don't need it but...
I really shouldn't read this website!!

A word of caution. Ordered from same store on the 1st Feb still waiting for the delivery. Order was dispatched within 2 days reached uk within 10 days picked and lost by Royal mail. Will apply for a refund within a week. TBH can't fault Xiaomi store or AliExpress but as royal mail is not properly tracked so prone to get lost within the UK. In that scenario u ll have to wait for over 2 months to even apply for a refund. Otherwise good store decent mobile phones good value for money.

Is this a repost of this http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/xiaomi-redmi-note-4-global-edition-131-40-aliexpress-xiaomi-online-store-2647744 or is it different ??

this or wait for the moto g5 plus? keeping in mind if I do order this it will probably come after the g5 plus comes out

Not for this one. The Helios X20 in the MTK Redmi Note 4 is far faster than the SD625 version. For the Redmi Note 3 the snapdragon 650was the better version as it was more powerful and power-efficient, but for the RMN4 the SD625 is slower than both the SD650 and the Helios X20 while not offering as good battery life

Battery life is much better with sd625 and speed difference in day to day use is barely noticeable, I'd trust user reviews far more than I'd trust antutu for real world performance.

I'd bet the gaming performance of 650 beats this but for someone not interested in games this is the far better option.

Often "Asian" version is more advanced than global. Look through samsung motorola and htc phones, nearly every one for Asia is dual sim. There is 4gb x27 RM Note 4 released in China. Nearly twice the speed in benchmarks than global RM Note 4.
In regards of firmware I strongly suggest to have some read at miuipolska.pl I know it will be in not most preferred language for most but can be translated in chrome to chosen language.

I'm very close to pushing the button on this. only question for me is GPS. My current (pending return) ulefone power is woeful with Google maps.
does anyone know if this is any better?

I've considered the P2 and the 6X. battery Vs camera. but the price of this is what's winning

I am interested in the gps side too.
I will check xda developers if there is anything.

The other player from East is UMI Z Pro. I know is 2x price but you will get a lot more. Qualcomm and Mediatek have delay in newest SoC. So if someone can wait there should be bunch of new phones coming out with new chipsets. That don't necessary means to buy them but older models will drop in price. By the way RedMi Note 5 is due in short time:)

I would like to know too, looks very similar

topcashback 8% whoa

How is sound quality and volume with earphones? I've been stung with Chinese phones before (ZTE) that were crippled with woefully quiet earphone output and no way to overcome it.

Thanks OP, I finally bought a replacement for my Nexus 4 after dragging my heels looking over the last year.
I don't change them often, before the Nexus it was the G300 & then a SanFran, about 6 years worth in total. :smiley:

Are we buying directly from Xiaomi’s outlet on AliExpress or just some re-seller calling themselves “Xiaomi Online Store”? I can’t quite work it out from looking at the store page - it doesn’t seem to state it it anywhere, and the poor English isn’t encouraging.

Have always bought Samsung . currently got Note 4. Cobsid

I've always bought Samsung Note Series( like bigger screens for productivity reasibs). I've considered these but never been sure what OS was like or how frequently it is updated. can anyone tell me. I was waiting for Note 8 but may be persuaded to try one of Redmi series

I just bought the Global Note 3 when it was on sale here. Is the camera on this phone significantly better?

Actually global roms are filled with chinese bloatware. Personally I use miui polska rom in my RedMi Note 2 Prime for last 2 years. No problems whatsoever, weekly updates and full support to google services. Not to mention few tweaks for better preformance and gps reception.

Would adding a launcher like nova change the "look and feel" of the OS.

Global ROM and official International ROM are different; the Global ROM is put on the Chinese version of the phone by the supplier so that people can get Google services which are not allowed in China. The suppliers often put lots of junk in there at the same time.

can any one recommend any accessories? glass-film, silicone case, links please if possible ... thanks

https://www.thewarrantygroup-cares.com/aliexpress/ConsumerTC?language

For those asking about the warranty.
It would appear they want you to send the phone back to China even though they claim they will replace it in 10 days. Again reading through they may just give you an aliexpress credit within 10 days, meaning you will still have to wait for delivery after they credit you.

I am looking to upgrade my pisspoor moto3 to this. Am i likely to notice a huge amount of difference to this phone?

Also, I am little confused about the different versions of this. is this the same phone as advertised here?

only thing putting me off is I want a phone with nougat

One word of warning; although this seller says the phone has Band 20 support - and Xiaomi have a history of releasing new versions with new features without announcement - I still cannot find ANYTHING on an official Mi website or forum detailing the addition of band 20 to the Note4.
For the Note 3, the band 20 version was given an "SE" tag, but there is no such version of the Note 4; YES, there is a new version of the 4 based on the Snapdragon chipset, but this on its own does not mean band 20 support. The Note 3 has two similar chipset versions, but the Band 20 model is an addition to the Snapdragon model (and slightly different size).

GSMArena DONT list Band 20 for either version of the Note 4 - although they have been known to make mistakes sometimes, as they usually get pre-production copies of the phones they review.

And once again, "Global ROM" does not equal Band20 support, it means the phone isnt meant for the internal Chinese market, and has a different pre installed set of apps (and less government spyware).

Nice phone, want to buy it for my dad as a gift.:sunglasses:

I always stick to official roms, and the global ones via OTA or from the MIUI website have never had any Chinese apps or malware.

Were you hit with customs charges? I believe Royal Mail charge for an additional processing fees as well if the package needs to clear customs.

Not sure if this a concern for anyone but my friend bought a Xiaomi from gearbest and it developed a fault after a few weeks.

He was told to send it back to China for repair at a cost of £30 and a 3 month wait.

OK Thanks

trusted and good seller. Chuffed with my 3S prime that I got from them last month. Only downside of the 3s prime is the camera is pants. Wish i had waited for this model, but nevermind

A little confused regarding price, if you select a phone it seems to crank the price up circa ten dollars saying it includes a warranty??

No customs or Royal Mail charge, never had this unless you choose a quicker delivery method - DHL etc.

When you say dealer, presumably you mean marketplace? as opposed to retailer like gearbest and geekbuying, etc.

Aliexpress give the impression that they have an official Xiaomi store, but my understanding is that it's just a shopfront that Aliexpress have created to group all the sellers of the Xiaomi devices. That said, all the sellers show the number of orders and feedback, so you can generally easily spot the reliable sellers - and in my experience the Aliexpress model works quite well.

Hey OP,

Good spot, ordered the one in gold as well as a Nillkin TPU Frosted Shield.

Fingers crossed it all goes smoothly. Now for the wait :smiley:

Have some heat and cheers.

Super hot, but I'm still holding out for an LG G6 as that dual camera and screen ratio are killer features!!

I have vision problems so I may have missed it, are you referring to the Cashback?

I meant retailer. I'm not sure how it's set up, and aliexpress is a fine place to buy, I'm just saying you're not buying direct from the manufacturer.

No, change your location to US as the warranty charge is UK specific, then order as normal - seriously of you do have vision problems I'd look at the xiaomi mi max, that's what I have as my eyesight isn't the best.

Paid HK$1399 as it was on promo when I got it.
Not sure bout the 4gb version,as they only had the 3gb ones.

Enjoy ur visit to HK :smiley:

HK$1399 :smiley:

Got it from the Xiaomi HK store.
Is on Nathan Rd,MK; near to Soy St.Go up a building,think on 10th floor or so.

Hope that is of help Hacken :smiley:

This is obviously better (specs comparison), but will likely come with no warranty (or, one where you'll need to spend a small fortune to return it), so I'd go for the safe option Moto G4 from Amazon (unless you feel like living up to your username!).

I have a xaomi fakebit and that works very very well. However, I have had two chinese phones to date - the ulephone power which lasted less than 6 months - parts of the screen stopped working and a umi which died within a month, just switched itself off never to switch on again. Of course you can return them back to China at your expense, along with all your data and passwords on the phone. Personally I wouldnt trust my phone would get there and wouldnt trust my data was not taken along the way. Chinese phones at this price are hit or miss, but its the aftrecare that is the real issue. The money I have wasted on my two Chinese phones could have been used on a second hand branded phone - be about the same spec and better build quality. Just a word of caution to anyone thinking of dabbling with Chinese phones - yes they work - maybe they will work for a while, but if they go wrong - that's money down the drain. Gearbest, who I got my phones from offred me compensation for both but this was only about 25% of the price I paid so all in I lost about £140 on tthe two. My advice would be to save up and either buy a second hand phone with a warranty or save up even more and get a new phone.

Was undecided for the last two days, but this has made my mind up for me. Moto G4 here I come.

My phone arrived this morning just 11 days after I ordered it from the Xiaomi HK store, although it seems to have been sent from Singapore. Nothing extra to pay on delivery. The phone was well packaged and sealed with 2 red 'Global Version' stickers beneath the sealed cellophane. Unfortunately, the glass screen protector I ordered in the bundle was missing. The position of the cut-out holes in the case I ordered from a different Aliexpress supplier do not quite match the phone and I have ordered another case from Amazon. If I have the same problem again it will be easier to return to Amazon, and, with the benefit of hindsight, I should have just bought the phone from Aliexpress to avoid these problems.

First impressions of the phone are very good indeed. Set up was easy and all in English - no baffling Chinese characters. The only glitch was the no 'UK region' but like others have said this seems to make no difference. The phone has already updated itself and the MIUI8 interface seems very intuitive and well thought out. There was over 22G of ROM free which should give me plenty of room for installing numerous apps. A couple of banking apps I have installed work fine. The finger print sensor unlocks the phone with the first touch of the correct finger and it has the standard USB charging socket despite my reading some claims that it hadn't. I didn't realise it had infrared which was easy to set up to remotely control our Samsung TV. Although, it is too early to say how the phone performs it seems very responsive - all working effortlessly and with no fuss. I am delighted with my purchase and would be even more so had I paid for sale price now available!

Did it cover the IR blaster and have a hole in the center of the top? If you ordered a case advertised for "Redmi Note 4" then it will likely have the same problem regarding the cut-out holes. The Snapdragon Redmi Note 4 has an updated outer housing compared to the original Mediatek. In China, the Redmi Note 4 Snapdragon is called the Note 4X. However, the confusing part is that in some markets the Snapdragon version is still just known as Redmi Note 4 but has the same housing as the Chinese Redmi Note 4X and not their Redmi Note 4. Indian Redmi Note 4 is an example of this scenario. Here's a post about the differences. One of the changes is the IR blaster moving from center to the right, hence my question at the start. In order to get a case with the right fitting, you'll probably need to find one advertised as Redmi Note 4X.

There is a hole in the centre that doesn't match anything on the phone. There is also a smaller hole partly over the IR blaster and only a small part of the blaster can be seen. It does work with the case on but not as well as without the case. The cut-outs on the back are about 3mm too low down to match the phone's lens, flash and fingerprint sensor. All these work but make the case look shoddy.

Sorry for being a newbeer, by using the dual SIM card. does it tell you which of the two SIM cards the call that is ringing is coming from? john

Sounds like it's definitely a case for the original Redmi Note 4 design and if you ordered another case it'll likely be the exact same hole placement.

Top is the original Redmi Note 4. Centre hole in your case is because that's where the IR blaster is in original. Look for a Redmi Note 4X case. That will have the right hole placement.

Re: AliExpress - think of them as Chinese Amazon but better. Have bought lots of big and small ticket items from over £150 down to 50p (with free shipping!) and all gone smoothly. Even when a no show or wrong item or slight fault, the system protects you without quibble (unlike ebay/PPal). This is because your money paid is held in ESCROW and not released to the retailing vendor until you confirm delivery and are happy. If not, you have recourse that is either refund/return or refund only (if small ticket item) or negotiate a discount. The vendors crave Positive ratings to exist and are usually V. V. happy to make you happy.

Word to the wise - you will probbo have to pay VAT and Customs on this value of item in addition. So add another £40.

Is there a variant or a different phone that you would recommend with a slightly smaller screen? Sister doesn't want a bigger one than she has now (5.2inch) must be 32gb with 3gb ram

Btw, if anyone has a problem with Natwest banking app not working use their business app instead, all works well with same log in details as personal app

Looks like you might be right. I'll know for sure tomorrow as the replacement was despatched earlier. I'll post tomorrow night. Many thanks.

okay im sold im gonna get one

how good is this warranty? anytime have any experience with it? phone owner pays shipping?

Edit: edit: terms and conditions

Phone owner pays postage, but you're given $5 Ali express gift voucher to compensate. Provided the phone fault is found to be covered under warranty, they will ship out a replacement new (or equivalent spec new) device within 10 days of receiving it, or credit you with an Ali express voucher to the value you paid (minus ten percent if faulty device older than 6 months). They decide whether they replace the phone or credit you with Ali express voucher. sounds pretty decent really, in theory.

Anyone tried to submit warranty request?

Gone for this in the end thanks for the advice!

Just ordered this case - there's so much confusion with housing could you just confirm its the correct one please.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01MTTZDIP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_hOl3yb540FG0Q

Thanks for your help really appreciate it. I'm guessing the screen protector for the 4 and 4x would be the same?

I'd have assumed so since they both have the same front dimensions and camera/light sensor position. However, the majority of Note 4X screen protector listings on Aliexpress appear to be titled for just Note 4X rather than Note 4 and Note 4X.

Side by side of the 2.

The light sensor and camera might be slightly closer to the speaker, on the Snapdragon so a screen protector with the 3 cut-out holes at the top, mightn't fit properly if it's for the original, depending on how accurate the holes are. Hard to say for certain though.

Thanks so much for your help. Final question - does it come with a qualcomm fast charger in the box or a standard charger?

Just got a £5.71 Off (orders of £64.45 or more) voucher. Open mobile app, click the get $200 in coupons banner > get voucher. For new app users only.

You got me all excited then but that one doesn't have Band20. Not that important I suppose but worth noting.

It'll be a standard charger in the box.

Followup to my previous reply, the camera and light sensor position is definitely different enough to have an impact on a screen protector. If you find photos of the 2 versions and superimpose them on each other, they don't line up, so if you are getting a screen protector with 3 hole cut-out, keep that in mind. The ones with a rectangular section cut out from the top should be fine though since the distance between the camera and light sensor is wider in the original compared to Snapdragon.

Dreadzone101: You were right as the new case also doesn't fit for the same reasons. I've ordered one from AliExpress which included a photo of the top holes so I can be sure it will fit:

https://m.aliexpress.com/s/item/32791601546.html?trace=wwwdetail2mobilesitedetail&productId=32791601546&productSubject=32791601546&shortkey=UFNzmaaM&addresstype=600

Thanks for your advice.

Thanks just ordered the same case <3

Yes I've ordered about 6 different cases (and screen protectors) as first one is offset and rear cut outs a few mills low, think I have found one, when it arrives and if it fits I'll post a link. The pictures don't always match what you get.. A little frustrating but these are a quid a time including shipping.

https://m.aliexpress.com/s/item/32791601546.html?trace=wwwdetail2mobilesitedetail&productId=32791601546&productSubject=32791601546&shortkey=UFNzmaaM&addresstype=600

Thanks hobbehod - one of the feedback

http://imgur.com/a/YpSeL

As you say, with the Note 4, there does not appear to be ANY special naming, so people have to be aware of the fact - hence my post.

Currently there appear to be 3 different named versions of the Note 4, the 4, 4a and 4X, none of which denote it has band 20.

Ditto the word "Global", Xiaomi themselves use this word to differentiate between the 2 sets of available ROMs, NOT what 4G bands the phone can use..

So, my words of caution remain, check VERY carefully before buying, to make sure you get the correct version; if you are buying from Ali Express, check the whole listing, it may say Band20 in the headline, or Global Version, but if the description further down the listing says otherwise, AE wont get you a refund.

A non-phone example: Many, MANY AE sellers list certain clothing products as "Silk", go through the description page and you find (in tiny print) that it is polyester; this is true even of the main Alibaba site; you can go through 10 pages of sellers before finding one genuinely selling the product they advertise as on sale.

AE sellers put up words they think will get hits, regardless of how accurate they are to the listing.

Nearer to 150£ now. Brexit and offer expiring maybe?

People needed to be aware it does not have a unique name hence your post? Why exactly? Because you believed it should have "Special Edition" naming even though 5 out of 6 Band 20 Xiaomi phones do not have a unique name? The 4A is not a variant of the Note 4. It is a phone from the 5" Redmi line. There are 2 named versions of the Note 4. The Note 4 and Note 4X, the 5.5" successors to the Redmi Note 3 variants. There is a Snapdragon model which is called both, Note 4 or Note 4X depending on the region and the Mediatek Note 4. The Taiwan and Hong Kong Note 4X have B20 which is stated on the specs pages of their respective MI sites, and as linked previously, the 5" Redmi 4A also has B20. The same for this deal which might actually be the Singapore Redmi Note 4, as the official MI Singapore site confirms their Redmi Note 4 as having B20, so I don't see why you're saying "none of which denote it has band 20".

Why do you continue to insist that when the word "Global" is used, it is in relation to ROM only? The packaging itself says "Global Version" on the box as labelled by Xiaomi themselves and is not a case of the seller advertising it after flashing a Global ROM themselves on a China market model. The difference is not the ROM. It has, different bands, different charger included in the box and CE certification as opposed to CCC, yet you continue to refuse to accept that the meaning of "Global" isn't refering to ROM only. The Snapdragon Note 4 was first released in India. The India Note 4 has very limited Band support yet it would come preinstalled with Global ROM but Xiaomi do not advertise it as "Global Version" on the packaging unlike the (Singapore?) model in this deal. MI Note 2 Global Edition is another case where the "Global" is referring to the Global LTE bands.

You spoke about silk on the Redmi 4A thread too and insisted that people should read carefully yet you are unwilling to accept what the specs/description even say because you cannot find other info regarding the matter therefore doubt the truth to the description anyway? You say to be careful, even though you judge that when the word "Global" is used in the title, that it must mean Global ROM only and has nothing to do with Band support. You are uneccessarily worrying people for no reason. The same for the Redmi 4A thread. After it had been concluded there is a B20 model, you stepped in with your doubt and how you couldn't find info on forums, even though it was later confirmed there is a B20 Global Version model.

Does anyone know the implications of selecting the wrong region on the phone please? just got this and UK is not listed in the list of region settings.
Thanks.

How many days usually from order to despatch?

I asked the same question and now I ve got one at the last moment without anything else. Cashback has tracked too.
Thanks for all the help.
Next, I guess from my nonunderstanding, I will have to get that return ticket to the Falklands so I can setup my new mobile there, right?

Thanks

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Just looked at the boxes for all three of my Xiaomi phones; not one of them says "Global Version" (although they do have the CE mark) on the box, even though they arrived with the original Xiaomi sealed packaging.

As for the rest

"[ROM] MIUI 8 Global Beta ROM 7.3.30 For Redmi Note 4 MTK Released! agree"

"ROM] MIUI 8 China Stable ROM V8.1.14.0.MBFCNDI for Redmi Note 4 MTK Released! agree"

"[ROM] MIUI 8 Global Stable ROM V8.2.2.0.MCFMIDL for Redmi Note 4 Qualcomm Released! attach_img agree"

Finally

"Redmi Note 4 MTK Global -- Redmi Note 4 Qualcomm Global -- Redmi Note 4 MTK China"

All taken from the Mi forums; please note 2 different version of Global ROM - but only one has band 20.

As for telling people to be careful, and check the full description; we live in a world where many people have paid £100s for a white box with a brick in it, £100s more for a photo of an X-Box, and at least two couples bought airline tickets to the wrong country for their holiday.

I have even come across one idiot bad mouthing a Samsung Tab Tablet on Amazon, because she thought the microSD slot was a SIM slot and tried to use it as a phone.

BTW, although Mi are shipping these band 20 phones, they still havent advertised the fact on any Mi Forum that I have come across, same as the Note 3 SE (which btw, is a completely better phone than the Note 4X, and probably better than the 4 in most respects); it was shipping for months before anything official was said about it.

People also need to be aware that if they put the wrong ROM on their Mi phone (ie try a band 20 ROM on a non band 20 version of the 4 - or vice versa), it will probably brick the phone. 90% of the non-standard ROMS offered will not work on the band 20 versions.

"Global Version" has CE certification, but CE certification does not mean it is called "Global Version". India version in comparison to the version in this deal is the example I already gave. Despite the Indian version having CE certification and coming pre-installed with Global ROM too, it is not called the "Global Version" by Xiaomi and the difference is down to band support.

Why are you stating there is a Global Mediatek and Global Snapdragon ROM when it wasn't even being discussed whether this was Snapdragon or Mediatek? It's not the same as the Redmi Note 3 which had 2 distinct models for the Snapdragon variant (Kenzo and Kate). Warning people about being careful about SD/MTK ROM flashing would be equivalent to going onto a RN3 SE thread and warning people not to flash the Mediatek ROM. Choosing the right ROM for RN4 isn't down to whether it has B20 or not. India RN4 lacks B20 but would use the same Qualcomm Global ROM as the RN4 "Global Version" with B20. All other B20 Xiaomi phones use the same Global ROM as their non B20 counterparts. The RN3 is the only one to have a seperate ROM for Qualcomm Global and Special Edition.

Why do you reiterate the need to read description and mention lack of advertising when you're judging the phone based off "Global" in the title and not what the description says? You tell people to read carefully when you yourself aren't even accepting what the description says and jump to the conclusion that this phone and the Redmi 4A don't have B20. Just look at all the stores on Aliexpress which sell Redmi Note 4 and Redmi 4A. They make a clear distinction if it's the "Global Version" or if it is just the "Global ROM". A lot of sellers put big labels over the listing image to let people know which it is. Some listings like this Redmi 4A Global Version even have comparison tables which indicate that "Global ROM" means a China version with unsealed box which they flash themselves whereas "Global Version" is sealed and supports B20. Despite this, you seem unable to accept there's a difference between "Global Version" and "Global ROM" and assume when sellers use the word "Global" they mean ROM only, even though "Global Version" is Xiaomi's own naming.

There ARE two different chipset versions - just like the Note 3; and three current ROM versions (try to keep up).

You also keep claiming Xiaomi sell them as two different hardware versions - Normal and Global, but despite an intensive search the ONLY references to "Global Version" I can find get answered by Xiaomi as meaning the Chinese and Global ROMs.

So please post some links to official Xiaomi literature (not phone sales adverts) detailing that "Global Version" means band 20 support.

Just Despatched and in 2 days! Can't wait!

Where did I say there wasn't two different chipsets? In my second reply to you I said "There is a Snapdragon model which is called both, Note 4 or Note 4X depending on the region and the Mediatek Note 4." I said that it's "not the same as the Redmi Note 3 which had 2 distinct models for the Snapdragon variant". You're saying "try to keep up" when it doesn't seem you understand why there are 3 ROMs and have suggested it's related to whether the phone has B20, which it's not. The bit I quoted from my 2nd reply helps explain it. Note 4 can be both Snapdragon or Mediatek but the Snapdragon version is only called Note 4 in regions outside of China hence there is only Global ROM and no China ROM for Snapdragon Note 4 since China Snapdragon release is known as Note 4X. Unlike the RN3, there aren't distinct Snapdragon versions and the phone's band support is irrelevant to the ROM. Infact, the ROM for the Snapdragon Note 4 Global can be flashed onto China Snapdragon known as Note 4X and some sellers state they do this. Since you seem to refuse to believe what sellers say, here is a MIUI forum post with a MOD confirming cross compatibility: http://en.miui.com/thread-541193-1-1.html

"Despite an intensive search". Did you do a intensive search before posting your doubts about the existence of a B20 version on this thread and the Redmi 4A? During our discussion about Redmi 4A, you also refused to believe there was a Redmi 3S with band 20. Visit http://www.mi.com/en/ now go to the Malaysia or Singapore sections in the drop down menu. View those 3 phones on either region. Check the specs. All state Band 20. When people speak of the Redmi Note 3 "Special Edition", you accept they are refering to the band 20 model right? However, you refuse to accept that the models of Redmi Note 4 and Redmi 4A which support Band 20 are known as "Global Version" despite there being 2 different phones that Xiaomi have applied this naming to. There is also the Mi Note 2 that has a "Global Edition" referring to Global LTE. 3 out of 6 B20 Xiaomi phones using Global to state the difference isn't only Global ROM but you still won't accept that. 1 out of 6 B20 Xiaomi phones has a "Special Edition" so you believe that since it isn't "Special Edition" naming it doesn't have B20? Your inability to accept this naming and specs won't change the fact that the versions of the Redmi Note 4 and Redmi 4A that support B20 are called "Global Version".

Not going to try to convince you any further since your stubborness to accept things is unreal. This is what you said on the Redmi 4A thread: "Unless you can find at least three established members of HUKD who can confirm they have a 4a, and ditto for a 3s Prime with the Global ROM* and that it has band 20, I will continue to not believe you". Apparently official MI site specs from Malaysia and Singapore is insufficient (Indonesian Redmi 4A and Hong Kong Redmi 3S also state B20). Funny how to speak of lack of advertising and need for reading description but refuse to believe specs anyway because your "intensive search" must be sufficient to draw conclusions.

The Redmi Note 4 global version is the Redmi Note 4X by another name. So buy accesories that fit the 4X.

I received this phone last week and can confirm it has band 20 support. Brilliant phone!

Anyone recommend a 9h glass screen protector that fits, they are happy with?

Mine has shipped today.... from Singapore!

Mine too.ordered tuesday evening so took a while to despatch

Looks like it is now sitting at around £145, but other sellers have it at £124ish. Are the other sellers reputable and selling the same phone ?

Are people still running the original software on this or are they rooting the device?

Just to be sure these are unlocked and will work on o2 and 4g capable?
Thanks in advance

Is there anywhere in the UK to get this for a few more £ rather than having to wait 20days?

Went to go buy this and its £153
Looks like its gone up, anywhere else selling it for £121?

Currently have a Galaxy note 3 which is stuck on Android v5. Would this actually be an upgrade for me in anyway other than a newer os?

how do I change the battery when it's get old ?

Is this phone worthy of this kind of money? Looking for new phone to upgrade to

Don't know about this one but I've had a redmi note 3 global edition since jan. Digitizer has just broke on it (its never ever had a knock, bash or a fall). Can't get any replacement parts for these global editions, so bear that in mind. Theres loads of parts for the normal version though! 3 months use out of a £120 phone, not good! I'd give them 1 more chance though because if the phone lasted 2+ years then it would have been a bargain, lovely phone, instant responses and fast browsing, no lag with apps or anything. Pitty!

Anyone have a link for a decent hard case that actually fits properly?

Thanks for asking MDL199.
I also would really like to know how getting a repair/replacement went for you scousemickey.
Did you get it from gearbest or aliexpress?
If aliexpress, did you pay extra for Replacement Warranty?

Yeah got mine from Aliexpress with their warranty. I think I'd have to ship it to Germany if I ever needed a repair. Hopefully won't have any probs but time will tell.

Cheers, don't think I'll be able to wait til mid May to receive. I've messaged a couple of e-sellers, with similar replies, in that they couldn't be sure if it would fit the phone correctly :-(

Get one that's advertised for the Note 4X. It'll fit the version of the phone in this deal. The Note 4X comes only in the updated Snapdragon housing whereas the Note 4 comes in both the old and updated housing. This phone is Note 4 with updated housing, but cases for Note 4 will mostly be for the older Mediatek housing, hence the fitment issue. If the listing has images of the case top, be sure it looks like this. The old style has IR blaster in the top centre, so cases for it will have a middle hole along the top edge, which won't be right for this phone.

Paid for DHL delivery, week passed, DHL haven't received parcel from Xiaomi yet ... :confused:

I ordered mine on Thursday and it still hasn't shipped yet. Has anyone had theirs shipped yet?

Can get it again for $150 if you use the app and apply the new customer $10 discount code. Shows as $180, it then applies a $20 coupon to make it $160.
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32795263337.html

Also you get 8% cashback from Quidco/Topcashback

Mine marked as shipped

wow screen protector arrived at my local sorting office within 6 days of ordering, but Royal Mail have texted and emailed to say they're sending it back because of incomplete address. why not get me to come and collect it, you obviously have my phone and email address. Royal Mail are a right pita, surely its going to cost them to send it back.

Phone is shipped but still waiting to be collected ordered on 27/28 March.

Bought this on the website last night with flip case and screen protector for £135. Thanks for the headsup! I'll have probably forgotten about it by the time it arrives though :smiley:

It's a fabulous phone. I've had the 64gb version for about a week now and I'm delighted with it. I ordered it on a Sunday and it arrived from Singapore on the Thursday about 11 days later.

I put In my EE sim and it pretty much worked straight out of the box.

I bought the Silver 64gb one from Aliexpress for £145 and got about £10 back through Topcashback.

I would highly recommend it to anyone.

I'm gonna wait till the end of the month unless something else pops up better :stuck_out_tongue:

Hi all,
For anyone who has received their phones, any chance you can share your delivery history as mine has not changed for a few days now. So far, here is what has happened.

2017-04-05 02:20:13 【8】Despatched to overseas (Country code: GB)
2017-04-05 02:20:00 【GBLAL】parcel departed from exchange office
2017-04-05 02:20:00 Despatched to overseas (Country code: GB)
2017-04-05 01:24:14 【8】Despatched to overseas (Country code: GB)
2017-04-05 01:24:00 Despatched to overseas (Country code: GB)
2017-04-05 01:24:00 Depart from transit country
2017-04-03 21:51:59 Received by line-haul
2017-04-03 16:50:00 Shipment information received

China
Original Country 2017-04-03 16:51:59 Outbound in sorting center
2017-04-03 16:21:59 Inbound in sorting center
2017-04-03 15:51:56 Accepted by carrier
2017-04-01 15:23:14 Waiting for pick up

Mine looks the same.
Occasionally, I have had delivery and then the tracking UK side gets updated.
Best not to worry about it.

Anyone received theirs?

Mine has arrived in the UK as of this morning!

Ordered on 2nd April tracking still says Waiting for pick up :disappointed:

2017-04-10 15:37:00 【8】Arrival at Processing Center (Country code: GB)

:smiley:

Ordered on 2nd April tracking still says Waiting for pick up :disappointed:

I ordered it 30th March and it despatched to overseas on 7th April

Yes!

GBLAL means its sitting at Heathrow customs. My experience on slow delivery is can sit there a week before getting waved through unchecked (in sense if undervalued they don't seem to have opened and challenged the value claimed) tracking is slow to update once you are seeing that in can be in next couple of days or week without warning. I got mine as live in London then tracking updates to let me know it's coming.

I am not sure why this is expired? It's still available at this price (give or take a few pence) via the link as far as I can see?

Got mine this morning. ordered on 30th March. Accepted by carrier on 4 April. Shipped from Singapore in 13 days, all good.
Got the pzoz case & screen protector, which fit nice.
Thanks Op.

After reading all the positive comments I decided to order the phone (30 March); it arrived this morning (12 April). :smiley::smiley:
Two problems so far: I started the set-up and on the 'Your Region' screen there is no UK/Europe option and it won't let me move forward without entering something. I looked in the box for a user manual for some guidance and there isn't one, so I went on the official website to look for an online user manual and this phone isn't listed.
Not a good start :disappointed::disappointed:
Any help would be much appreciated

Someone commented earlier in this post that region selection doesn't matter whatever you select. Falkland Islands or India are popular, then just change your time to BST

Ordered mine on 30th didn't arrive today! :disappointed:

Mine has turned up :smiley:

Im just messing about with it now

is there any way around muiu or do you have to give it all the permissions it asks for?

I set mine to Falkland Islands but it has zero effect on how your phone runs.

Ordered on the 2nd and it's just arrived

Mine has just arrived delivered by my favourite local RoyalMail postie. No charges. Well packaged in protective giant bubble wrap. London area.
Tracking UK side not yet updated that its been delivered, except for shipment has arrived in UK.
AlieExpress Seller will ask you to Confirm Delivery. Recommend you check if it works well first. After a certain time, if no complaints from buyer, Seller gets dosh.

How do you use pin to open SIM tray?
Is it a gentle push into the hole?

Question for the wizards, mine turned up today but says Global Note4 and not 4x, is there any way of checking this is the correct phone?

Question.i installed my nova prime and i've done summat and the arrow on the front screen that u touch to get to settings etc has gone and i want it back.i can access wallpapers/widgets and settings but i have to hit the home button ( the middle square icon at bottom of phone) but its a pain.been looking at both tab and phone and cant see anything thats different so i dunno what i did lol

Ordered mine on 30th as well but still not delivered. Thorough i can now track it on royal mails website using the tracking number. Mine currently showing as Arrived in the UK on 12 march. Trackpoint Heathrow Worldwide DC.

Maybe check there if you haven't received yours.

I cant find owt to revert it back to normal prime and i cos i cant alter it i am unable to find all the icons (settings,apps etc).only thing i can access are those on the main screen (camera,chrome,contacts,play store and messaging).can access messaging only cos i dragged icon over to the main screen yesterday before everything went t*ts up.

I uninstalled and reinstalled nova

Well done OP top phone, now to transfer all my stuff from my Samsung to this phone!

Hi All,

Mine arrived about an hour ago, delivered by Royal Mail. No Duty to pay. I ordered it on the 29th of March, so was quite surprised it took awhile to be delivered (as the Retailer only dispatched it on the 6th of April), when others who had ordered after, had theirs delivered before me. It came fully sealed. I was overjoyed to discover the charging adapter inside was British and not European, as I thought the retalier would send a British convertor separately. Really happy indeed, woo hoo!!

Looking forward to inserting Micro Sim and MicroSD card from my ageing Galaxy S4 and give it a whirl once it is charged. I bought a Nillkin Frosted Case for it when I bought it on the 29th of March, which arrived on the 4th of April.

Hope others who are waiting have received theirs and enjoy their Easter weekend getting to know their new phone :smiley:

Picked mine up from the sorting office this morning - it would have been delivered on Thursday!! So ordered on 30/3 and would have been delivered on 13/04 - that's pretty good!

Very well packaged in thick bubble wrap; I did receive a non-UK/EU charger, but the seller included a simple converter in the package - I won't be using either any way!

Been having a good play with it this morning, setting it all up - really happy with it, and it definitely includes B20 as 4G is working on O2!

Thanks for posting this OP!!

In the order they appear during setup: Language to 'English UK'; Region to 'Falklands'; manually set time to British Summer Time +0. I did the whole setting up, large system update [over wifi], transfer of stuff from old phone etc BEFORE taking my O2 sim from my old phone and inserting it into the Xiaomi; once it rebooted and I entered my sim password, the phone automatically set the carrier to O2; initially it was only selecting EDGE, but a quick deselect and reselect of 'Prefer LTE' in the mobile data settings, and all fine with 4G showing straight away.

thank you so much for the informative post it will help me loads

Just wondered if the box people had theirs delivered in said Note 4 or 4X?

Redmi note 4 global version

Mine has landed in the uk today, very excited for it arriving

Does this support Quickcharge?
Default provided charger?
If not, a seperate charger with QC 2.0? 3.0?

This RedmiNote4 does not allow you to change your default messaging app.
Has anyone tried to do so?

Mine came with a 2 pin, 5V 2.0 Amp charger (and a UK converter). Charging the battery from 15% took exactly 3 hours.


Not sure what you mean?

I have FB messenger installed, and SMS text messages are sent using the pre-installed texting app. FB Messenger asked if I wanted it to be the default messaging app during set-up, but I declined.

Yes, you can set the Default Messaging App but it doesnt HONOR it after you reboot.
Say, you use Telegraph, Signal or other combined SMS and Network-based apps,
MUI will grab the SMS no matter what.
Also, it saves it to MUI cloud (in China) by default?

mine keeps all my settings.

i would recommend going to security - permissions.

there remove all permissions and auto start ability of the apps you don't want.

maybe that will make the difference for you.

From what you replied, were you able to receive SMS text in Signal or Telegraph after rebooting? Am doublechecking.
Because,
I did try removing permissions to Messaging and force closing it but could not disable it. Also, looked in Autostart but did not see Messaging app to switch off Autostart.
Switched off Mui optimisation, memory optimisation to off.
Might have another go if you say it does work.

My phone landed in the UK 4 days ago still not showing on royal mail tracking....

Ordered on the 2nd, still waiting for it to arrive in the country!

Similar with the case, last tracking info was from the 10th.

I put my sd card in from an galaxy s4 and it saying it corrupt and needs formatting? Any other way to stop this as its full of photos and videos

Put the SD card into a computer and Copy the files onto the computer first. Then put it in the phone format it and then transfer the pics and videos back on.

Got my new sim but 4G doesnt come up.its on prefer LTE so what do i do?

Mine did this initially; I selected one of the other options (2G only?), saved it, then went back in and selected 'Prefer LTE' and all was well after that.

Tried it but still on 3G

Mine arrived today. Thanks OP. Phone is good but will take some time getting used to compared to iOS as I'm moving from apple to this phone. I have a couple of questions if anyone can help please:

Can anyone suggest the best app to use to sync iCloud calendar as my wife is still using an iPhone so would like them to sync or a calendar app that I should use?

Someone mentioned that the phone needed an update when it arrived. But mine didn't. Can you confirm if I should be upgrading from MIUI 8.1.15.0 Stable?

Did people uninstall any of the pre-installed apps that came with the phone?

Thank you

phone came today. is it just me or is front camera for video calling shocking?? also when I try to set finger scanner it vibrates but nothing else happens.....

Its not possible to use another SMS App to replace the default Messaging app.

I like Signal but the non SMS stuff Signal specific side works but any SMS text sometimes go to Signal and sometimes to the default SMS Messaging app.
It worked for a couple of hours and then you have to dig in both Apps for your SMS.
Anyone encountered this issue?
On my non Xiaomi mobile, there is a Android Setting called Default SMS app with the choices Messaging, Signal, WhatsApp, etc.
But this Xiaomi has no such Android Setting.
Is this right?

I found the Defaults, but its ignoring Signal as my SMS app nevertheless.

If you mean it's ignoring it as in it won't function properly as default app, then go to 'Security' app > 'Permissions' and change Signal so that it has a green tick beside the relevant entries in its permissions list. Some might be grey question mark symbol or red x. Just tap on them and change to 'accept'.

As for your earlier comment about not honouring on reboot. Go to Security > Permissions > Autostart. Toggle Signal to allow autostart. Also go to recent apps drawer (bottom left capacitive key). Find Signal app, drag down on it till you see a lock icon then select it.

i don't use signal or telegraph, i use Google messenger for SMS.

i have this set as a messaging app in defaults. no problem for me. reboots, etc.

perhaps try Google messenger and see if it sticks? sorry it's been 4-5 months so can't remember all the settings ive changed.

but no one else that i know of has complained about setting a different messenger app.

what version of miui are you on?

Received mine today and all the text in the box is in Chinese and it wasn't sealed. I think it might be the wrong phone as the back of the phone looks different to the pictures on aliexpress. Is there any way of finding out the model?

on the box and sticky label on the back of the phone, it's showing the model number as 2016102

Thanks, mine is showing 2016060

I got the black one so not sure if that makes any difference. sorry can't be more helpful.

Ok, could you confirm if yours has the camera and the two little dots beside it or underneath it

In the dropdown menu there is no gps like on my old samsung and even though i've trawled the internet i cant find it.one vid showed to enable it in settings somewhere (about phone then summat else) but it looked too complicated for me.there is no location in settings altho i did find google location settings lol.just want to be able to use it like i would switch on data/wifi etc

the 2 dots on the back of the phone are under the camera (between the camera and the fingerprint reader)

the 2 dots on the back of the phone are under the camera (between the camera and the fingerprint reader).

For some reason mine are beside the camera and none of the pictures I've seen of the phone online has it this way. I'm gonna contact the seller.
Thanks for your help.

So how do u switch it on/off? How do u find out these things lol? I didnt even realise that that was the fingerprint reader even tho i knew there was one.i tried using the xiaomi website to no avail and would be helpful having a pdf so i knew what was what.only started using it last nite and am so used to my four year old samsung i cant get my head around it.cant even find where to put on text delivery reports and sending texts is harder too oh and where to take your number off when making calls

Are you certain you ordered the phone in this deal and didn't get mixed up with another listing for the Redmi 4 Pro/Prime Snapdragon 625? What you say about the leds being beside the camera fits the Redmi 4 housing. It's a smaller 5" phone whereas the Note 4 is a 5.5" phone. Also the Redmi 4 doesn't have a Global Version, hence sellers flash the Global ROM onto the China version, which would be the reason for the Chinese packaging and open box.

Drop down menu toggles can be customised. Drag down Notifications menu twice and you should see "Sort" as the last toggle option. Alternatively, go to Settings > Notifications & Status Bar > Toggle Positions. The GPS toggle will be further down the list. On the right there's a 3 dash symbol. Use that to drag GPS toggle to the top so that it appears in drop down menu. Likewise there's Mobile Data and Wi-Fi toggles which you can drag up to the top of the list.

Ta.how do u no how to do these things?

Thank you for the handholding. When I said I found the Defaults, I meant I went to Android Settings -> Installed Apps. I saw at the bottom of screen the choices: {Defaults,More} and chose Defaults. There I saw Messaging set to use Signal as Default Messaging App and jiggled it back to Messaging and back to Signal. It cautioned me about Security and something not being able to use RCS.[?]
I was able to follow the second set of instructions you gave on locking in the Recents list.
I confirm I have set Signal for AutoStart via Security app -> Permissions -> AutoStart.

However, the first set of instructions, I am unable to obey because when I go to
Security App -> {AutoStart,Permissions,Other Permissions,Install via USB}
I choose Permissions and then I see: Body Sensors 1 of 1 apps allowed, etc. I don't see green nor red ticks here.
Please clarify.
Cheers!

I just pick thing up from usage. Your earlier comment mentioned there not being any location settings. It's a bit difficult to find but it's under Settings > Additional Settings > Privacy > Location.

I definitely ordered the right one as my aliexpress order shows the 5.5" model but they seem to have sent me the redmi 4 note pro

Hmm, perhaps your Security app is slightly different from mine. When you go into Security > Permissions > Permissions, do you see a list of apps? If so and Signal is on there, go into it and there should be the Green tick menu. If not go to Settings > Installed Apps, then find Signal on the list. Go into it. At the bottom should be Permissions Manager. In there you'll be able to grant it control of certain abilities. The menu will look like this:

Clicking on each should give options "Accept", "Notify", "Deny". Change the ones you think you need to "Accept"

If it's an error on their part see what solution they provide. If they don't provide a favourable one and it is indeed the 5" Redmi 4 Snapdragon 625, then perhaps you might better trying to sell it here. 2 days ago, someone posted this thread and was considering buying it.

I too ordered this phone but received what looks like the redmi 4 pro/prime. problem I have is i'm on o2 and the redmi 4 pro doesn't support band 20.

Is there an app that reveals if its Band20 besides trying an o2 SIM?
BTW Mine came with a nice UK charger without the need for a UK converter.

Strangely enough i was looking in permissions at dinner time (to do with sms and the mi cloud) and i couldnt find what i was looking for.i've just read your post and i dont have signal in that list and certainly none of those settings (sms/mms)

There is normally a red sticker on the side of the box saying 'global version'.

'Signal' is a third party SMS app, which the person whom I was replying to wanted to use as a replacement to the default SMS app. It's not a pre-installed MIUI feature. It's installed via Google Play Store. The system default SMS is just 'Messenging'. Mi Cloud and the default MIUI SMS app have their Permissions greyed out. I suspect that because they're system default apps, they have full permissions and only aftermarket apps have user permission control.

I bought two of these phones, one arrived thursday and it updated to miui 8.2... as soon as I put in my wifi pw etc, it also came with a proper 3 pin power adapter inside the sealed box.
The second phone came today, the box was sealed but outside it was a travel adapter and inside a 2-pin european power adapter, also it seems to be stuck on miui 8.1.15.. I've tried all day but it keeps saying no update available.
Both phones had the global version sticker on the box and both have stickers with model no. 2016102 on them.

Not bothered about the adapter but why can't I update the second phone.

I have the same problem in that mine won't update either. Please keep us posted if you find a solution please. Mine came with the European plug with a travel adaptor.

Mine arrived yesterday, very happy with it as a replacement for my old Nexus 4.
If it helps anyone, mine is Model No. 2016102 & has Miui Global 8.2.2.0 running off Android 6.0.1 MMB29M, though it had been connected to wi-fi for a while before I checked the version so it may have auto updated itself.

Just went to the Miui website and it says that there are the current ROM's for each model:

Redmi Note 4 Qualcomm Global: Version: V8.1.15.0.MCFMIDI (MIUI8)
Redmi Note 4 MTK China: Version: V8.2.2.0.MBFCNDL (MIUI8)
Redmi Note 4 MTK Global: Version: V8.0.4.0.MBFMIDG (MIUI8)

Based on this, I do have the latest version (8.1.15...).

Mine must've updated automatically cos i just checked and its on miui 8.2.2.0 and where it says update automatically over wifi it is on.i haven't checked to see if there are any probs with that latest update mind.i would've preferred to have had the choice but obviously not knowing my way round the phone i didnt know it was set to update straight away

My assumption would be that the server they access to get the update is dependant market region of the phone. The different plugs in the boxes would suggest they're from different origin regions. Singapore, Malaysia and Indonesia's Redmi Note 4 have B20 so the 'Global Version' mustn't be from just one of those regions and maybe the server in one region is more up to date than the others. The downloads section of the MIUI website shows the current latest Redmi Note 4 Global ROM is 8.1.15.0 so perhaps your second phone is pulling update information based on Global MIUI website servers whereas your first phone pulled information from the regional servers due to its origin. Redmi 4A Global Version B20 with Global ROM was available to buy before the Global ROM was even put online. So sometimes the MIUI servers are lagging behind. It's strange though and only just speculation on my part. This unboxing video for the same phone has EU plug but got 8.2.2.0 update and even the comments above suggest there's a mix of ones who got this and ones who have the current latest according to MIUI downloads.

Mine is running v8.2.4.0 Miui global 8.2 stable MCFMIDL. It came with a EU plug in a sealed box, with a separate adapter.

Found this thread about that ROM version on the official Singapore MI forum. But then came across this unboxing thread which shows the phone provided by MI Singapore has a UK plug inside the box which some people have mentioned getting. So the variation in getting updates and whether its UK or EU plug inside the box, is rather confusing.

In case vendor put in their own custom firmware,
I read somewhere to doublecheck (pls confirm)
In Android Settings ->
Activate Developer Options by tapping 7 times on Build Version/MUI Version.
Then start again looking for new entry.
Android Settings -> Additional Settings -> Developer Options -> MUI Unlock Status
Check that its locked.
Is this a good criteria you dont have half house firmware?
But, then isnt it possible to lock it again or was it unroot it again?

Mine occassionally after powering up makes an electrical sparking cracking noise.
I have noticed it Silent Mode, Airplane Mode and at Volume zero.
It happened earlier on during setup and with lots of apps but rarely now and also uninstalled most of apps to doublecheck. Got 3 days to do formal dispute but have mesg them and they said update System and show video which I am wondering how. I asked them about my Default Messaging issue but had no satisfactory answer but had tried dreadzone's suggestions and testing it out.
It crackled as I typed prev line. Ugh.

Vendor ROMs seem to be very rare nowadays and are only a problem with China market versions since they come pre-installed with China ROM which doesn't have Google Play etc so sellers install Global ROM which does. If an official Global ROM is available sellers will mostly just use this then advertise it as "Official Global ROM OTA updates" and even state it is opened box so it would be highly unlikely for them to open up a 'Global Version' phone that's pre-installed with Global ROM and then install their own, then reseal it. If the phone is released in China only and there is no official Global ROM available, sellers will sometimes create their own. An example of this would be the 'Redmi Pro'. This listing from 'Xiaomi Online Store' is advertised as just "Multi Language Support Google Play" and even says "Firmware: Custom ROM" under item specifics so I doubt they'd be deceptive and have installed vendor ROM on the RN4.

Doesn't sound great, if you excuse the pun... As for the messaging, my other half had the same thing with the Note 3, set google messages as default then it switched back to Xiaomi message but seems to have stopped now, its on miui 8.2 now.

Not sure I got right phone.. can anyone confirm white box Chinese writing 2016060

Is it 5" screen?

Has anyone tried to unlock bootloader, flash recovery and root yet? Just wondering if it went smoothly and it doesn't mess up OTA updates.

no,and i definitely ordered right phone :disappointed:
[img]picture of phone[/img]
picture of phone

I was just asking if you received the 5" phone as it sounds the same as what happened to me. I ordered the right phone (redmi note 4) but was sent a different one (redmi 4 prime) I am currently trying to resolve this matter with the seller .

thanks
let me know how you get on.i have tried to link pictures to my post for you to see the size

Yours is the same as they sent me, the screen is 5" (it's measured from corner to corner).
It's a very nice phone but not the one I ordered as I wanted the bigger screen version. I hope they can resolve the issue and I'll let you know when they get back to me

yep confirmed by a sticker i have the 5" version.rest of specs look the same
i have contacted seller to see what they say
i paid $168.99/£132

issue i have is box doesn't mention global anywhere
is there a way to check before i start to negotiate

just got mine, quick question,

can you only install the micro sd card with a micro sim?

I have a nano sim, and looks like that goes where the micro sd card goes. if i am right i will have to order a micro sim from vodafone so i can also use my storage micro sd card.

It won't say Global on the box because there is no 'Global Version' Redmi 4 Snapdragon 625. The box wasn't sealed when you got it, was it? A factory sealed Redmi 4 has China ROM pre-installed and the seller installs the Global ROM themselves. The 'Global Version' Redmi *Note* 4 is factory pre-installed with Global ROM and has B20 and English packaging whereas the phone you received is the China market Redmi 4 hence the Chinese packaging. Here's a table of differences that the seller has in the description. They mixed up the 1st one (this deal) with the 4th one (the phone you and 2 others appear to have received).

Yeah, the 1st sim slot is micro and the 2nd slot is combi nano sim or micro sd. If you already have a nano sim you don't need to switch your sim. You can just use a nano to micro adaptor. Not sure about other networks but if you order a free sim from Three or GiffGaff, it will be a "trio" sim with nano to micro or regular size adaptors. Image of what I mean. You'd use the middle part.

brilliant post many thanks,looks like screen size is only difference?
so in short i can chuck o2 sim in and still use 4g
thanks in advance

Unfortunately no. 'Global Version' is more than just pre-installed with Global ROM. It's also wider band support. If you look at the comparison table, one of the key features of the Global Version compared to the other variants is that it has B20 and the others don't. You can see it in red text in the network section under the "Global Version Redmi Note 4" only. So the Redmi 4 SD625 is essentially a 5" non B20 version of this phone. One of the other 2 people who received this incorrect phone mentioned it being a problem because they're with O2.

nice one thank you for confirming, I will check out ebay for the adaptors.!

You don't need to buy an adaptor off eBay. Most free sims nowadays are trio sims and will come with the adaptor you need. I mentioned Three and GiffGaff in my previous comment. Checked Vodafone and they do the same as well so just order a new free payg sim from them and use your nano sim in the middle portion cutout:

You don't need to buy an adaptor off eBay. Most free sims nowadays are trio sims and will come with the adaptor you need. I mentioned Three and GiffGaff in my previous comment. Checked Vodafone and they do the same as well so just order a new free payg sim from them and use your nano sim in the middle portion cutout:

i see, got you, thanks :laughing:

Has anyone struggled to change the lockscreen pictures? i can get the 10 default pics on the wallpaper carousel but i cannot add any to it.

As for the accesories, As well as the usb cable, I was given a two pin plug with a usb slot at the end and a 3 plug travel adaptor. I did wonder whether i got them because i took off the UK warranty when I ordered it.

Be aware that if like me (3 network) you get charged for message receipts, this is enabled by default in miui.
You can turn it off in system apps>messages

As an update to this earlier post; Mine was sent from Singapore and came with a UK style plug inside the box itself. The type that has a pull up earth pin from the flat main body.

Me neither.been trying for the last few days

Thanks psul, i had no idea.
PS. Do you mean Messaging > Delivery status, (which was on) or Messaging > Additional Settings (bottom) > Read receipts. (this was off on my phone)?

My Qualcomm has, MIUI Global 8.2 Stable, 8.2.2.0(MCFMIDL) with an L on the end, which is different to the 3 you mention above.
Anyway, it works as expected. :wink:

Messaging > delivery status.
The additional settings is for MMS.

I set a Privacy Protection Password and there is no option to turn it off afterwards. Grrr. Halp! Yes, I know my own pattern password but I dont want it. I was just playing around and am stuck.

if i remember rightly this is to do with your launcher..... miui is a bit funny here.

set your launcher back to the miui default. then change the lockscreen wallpaper, which should take. you can then change back to your launcher of choice.

i know it definitely is the case when choosing one of the defaults. wouldn't be surprised if it's adding your own as well.

Cheers

Does anybody know how to take off predictive text?

Android Settings -> Other Settings -> Language & Input.
Find Keyboard you are using
eg
GBoard -> Text correction

Cheers

Has anyone been able to get 4G working on Tesco mobile? I haven't so far wondering if it's anything to do with APN settings.

Hi,

Any Idea why I am not able to receive phone calls ???
I can phone to someone else without any problem..... (THREE)

Can somebody help.my gmail icon has disappeared from home screen all of a sudden.i'm using nova btw

If anyone is looking for a case for these I bought this one and can highly recommend it!

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Anybody know how to reduce the size of the icons or at least change get rid of the background so that they are transparent?