You had to ask:
Not the full 2kW but dare say your whole house will be roasting in no time...
bargainbill
15 Mar 173#30
Just to reiterate, absolute gimmick of a product.
All electric heaters convert almost all electricity into heat making them all 99.9%+ efficient.
Any convection or fan heater will heat a given space just as well as this.
Your absolutely mad beyond belief if you use these in place of gas for anything other than instant heat, absolutely not a substitute for central heating for anyone who cares about energy bills.
Kreskin
15 Mar 173#20
A £200 fan heater. A bargain because it's not £400.*
*Other 2kW fan heaters are available from around a tenner if you don't actually want to spend all day staring at the immaculate styling.
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geforce
14 Mar 17#1
Bargain
7day
14 Mar 17#2
£339 Amazon new
Anyone know why so many refurbished dyson fans
hash8511
14 Mar 17#3
How are these on electricity consumption?
jase.2 to hash8511
14 Mar 171#5
it has cut my energy use down by around £10 a month - dd dropped by that amount and its much faster at heating the place than the gas central heating is
jase.2
14 Mar 17#4
Bought this from dyson ebay last year and when it came it was brand new and sealed although advertised as a refurb
Gozer to jase.2
15 Mar 17#17
I heard that these are quite noisy in operation. Is that true?
hash8511
14 Mar 17#6
Thanks!!
Bilbo1968
14 Mar 173#7
Hot air.
jase.2
14 Mar 17#8
Yes it produces very hot air :-) oh and lower bills
sanchez1st
14 Mar 17#9
Bought! Thanks OP! Heat given.
wesgerrard
15 Mar 17#10
Really good decent fan. Expensive IMO but if you can afford it and need a fan this is the one to buy
You had to ask:
Not the full 2kW but dare say your whole house will be roasting in no time...
stormywhether
15 Mar 171#13
How many amps do these draw?
nihcaj to stormywhether
15 Mar 171#16
Apparently 2Kw (not that they shout about it!) So what's that - about 8.7/9Amps depending on Voltage?
Typically costing about 30 to 35p per hour to run, depending on tariff.
mission701
15 Mar 171#14
Just a bit of a warning - these aren't great as cool air fans (noisy and they don't cool a room that much). Great as warm air fans though so heat added.....ba dum tss!
Return
15 Mar 171#15
Mine has an awful buzz when switched off - apparently this is regarded as normal. Sounds like you've left a speaker and an amp on, but with nothing plugged in.
snappyfish
15 Mar 172#18
Yeh, Dyson had a lot to refurbish.
snappyfish
15 Mar 17#19
Noisy yes.
Kreskin
15 Mar 173#20
A £200 fan heater. A bargain because it's not £400.*
*Other 2kW fan heaters are available from around a tenner if you don't actually want to spend all day staring at the immaculate styling.
dannyshep
15 Mar 171#22
I know they had plently of the AM04 and AM05 due to a recall on them a few years ago. Not sure why this model has though
mikewhite
15 Mar 171#23
I have to say , I was really disappointed with these , as a fan they are just not powerful enough , like a gentle breeze blowing , way way overpriced , I've got much better fans which cost £10.
thoman2003
15 Mar 172#24
Used for 2 days, returned, not worth for that price
jumpinoffthbed
15 Mar 17#25
well I want one for the fold.. sorry cold air, but if they're not quiet then I'm not interested. well done finding it tho
jumpinoffthbed
15 Mar 17#26
75% quieter?
beastlyhax
15 Mar 17#27
Dyson are absolute crap, you can get something better for far less. This is all form over function. The reason that there are so many refurbs is because they break.
manbearpig to beastlyhax
15 Mar 17#28
It is the best fan on the market. That says something about the market which they have very cleverly tapped into.
At £200 its still overpriced by 75%, but you can't compare it to one of those £15 hairdryers that overheat and make your room stink. The fact they can charge £400 to start with tells you how bad the competition is.
Disappointed China didn't think of this first tbh.
ruc
15 Mar 171#29
you are absolutely correct. heater fans that cost £7 will have same efficiency as this. as they produce heat they work close to 100%efficiency.
dyson is a fancy thing doing the same work but has wow factor for showing off to mates.
bargainbill
15 Mar 173#30
Just to reiterate, absolute gimmick of a product.
All electric heaters convert almost all electricity into heat making them all 99.9%+ efficient.
Any convection or fan heater will heat a given space just as well as this.
Your absolutely mad beyond belief if you use these in place of gas for anything other than instant heat, absolutely not a substitute for central heating for anyone who cares about energy bills.
aishakhan894
16 Mar 171#31
On the labour ward last year I was lucky enough to use one of these (or so I thought). After about 5 minutes of this fan I realised it was an overpriced piece of rubbish. Like someone said above it is the same as a gentle breeze and sounds like a lawnmower being used next to your head. Before anyone says it this is before my contractions had started, so I didn't imagine it.
androoski
16 Mar 17#32
I think the idea "all electric heaters convert all electricity into heat so are near 100% efficient" is a piece of marketing BS that takes advantage of people's ignorance of physics and whilst it is true in many ways, it doesn't translate to practical economics very well at all.
bargainbill to androoski
16 Mar 172#41
Ok I'll explain it in terms of physics and you can shoot it down using physics.
Electricity is used to transfer energy from one place to another.
When using electricity as a heater the goal is to convert the electricity being carried by the wire into heat.
The heater is essentially a huge resistor which so it consumes power by resisting the current which heats the wire (element)
Almost all energy from the electricity is converted to heat, a small amount may be given off as light if the element glows but it is minuscule.
Given energy can neither be created or destroyed of its not entirely converted to heat then what is it converted to?
Reference distributing heat throughout the room, marginal difference between this and any fan heater best case.
Even convection heaters are incredible at distributing heat throughout the room. The fact that hot air rises provides excellent circulation around a room in itself.
s24adm
16 Mar 171#33
Big selling point for me with these is they don't have metal grills or exposed heating elements to burn yourself (or curious children) by touching. The remote operation is also brilliant and like anything Dyson, the aftercare warranty is 2nd to none so I'm confident it'll last for years and years if it not, they'll replace it. Sure I could get through 20 x £10 heaters in that time and cost the same but they're generally ugly, don't have remote control, don't do hot & cold or any specific temperature in between, don't rotate and can cause serious injury if touched when hot.
As for the money saving comment, utter sh*te. I have an energy monitor and can see it uses the same as a bog standard £10 heater fan, it'll still cause epic bills if you use it all day regularly.
nihcaj
16 Mar 17#34
[quote=s24adm]Big selling point for me with these is they don't have metal grills or exposed heating elements to burn yourself (or curious children) by touching. The remote operation is also brilliant and like anything Dyson, the aftercare warranty is 2nd to none so I'm confident it'll last for years and years if it not, they'll replace it. Sure I could get through 20 x £10 heaters in that time and cost the same but they're generally ugly, don't have remote control, don't do hot & cold or any specific temperature in between, don't rotate and can cause serious injury if touched when hot.
As for the money saving comment, utter sh*te. I have an energy monitor and can see it uses the same as a bog standard £10 heater fan, it'll still cause epic bills if you use it all day regularly.[/Yquote]
Years and years? This has a ONE YEAR warranty!
s24adm to nihcaj
16 Mar 17#36
means nothing, I've had parts sent out for dysons that are 7+ years old (even 2nd hand ones I've bought on ebay), free of charge, they are very good in my experience of looking after their customers.
DingoDirk
16 Mar 171#35
The adage about fools and their money has never been more true.
The elephant in the room, of course, is why there is such a huge supply of these manufacturer refurbished devices.
nihcaj
16 Mar 17#37
I have Dyson products too. Dyson started off with good products and decent service. Not now.
Current vacuum models are junk, and the service now matches. There are plenty of parts for the older vacuum cleaners, which is the precise reason a refurb older model is probably a better idea than a new one, but these over-priced comedy devices are in another league altogether.
Is this the fan that had problems with catching fire?
azocarbo
16 Mar 17#39
Doesn't cool a room, just creates a breeze making it seem cooler, but in actual fact heats the room.
manbearpig
16 Mar 17#40
Surely the point of this is that it efficiently distributes the heat around the room.
Yes it will draw the same amount of power as a £7 heater, but because it distributes it quickly around the room you don't need to use it for as long or at the same power level. Thus, saving money.
Locknloadharry
16 Mar 17#42
They may well be refurbs from NHS use.....so EEWWW!.....(Recent full page article in the papers this week).
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Electricity is roughly three to four times the cost of gas for heating. OK it depends a little on how you are using it, but it is spectacularly more expensive using electricity.
http://www.thegreenage.co.uk/cheaper-heat-home-gas-electricity/
Not the full 2kW but dare say your whole house will be roasting in no time...
All electric heaters convert almost all electricity into heat making them all 99.9%+ efficient.
Any convection or fan heater will heat a given space just as well as this.
Your absolutely mad beyond belief if you use these in place of gas for anything other than instant heat, absolutely not a substitute for central heating for anyone who cares about energy bills.
*Other 2kW fan heaters are available from around a tenner if you don't actually want to spend all day staring at the immaculate styling.
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Anyone know why so many refurbished dyson fans
Electricity is roughly three to four times the cost of gas for heating. OK it depends a little on how you are using it, but it is spectacularly more expensive using electricity.
http://www.thegreenage.co.uk/cheaper-heat-home-gas-electricity/
Not the full 2kW but dare say your whole house will be roasting in no time...
Typically costing about 30 to 35p per hour to run, depending on tariff.
*Other 2kW fan heaters are available from around a tenner if you don't actually want to spend all day staring at the immaculate styling.
At £200 its still overpriced by 75%, but you can't compare it to one of those £15 hairdryers that overheat and make your room stink. The fact they can charge £400 to start with tells you how bad the competition is.
Disappointed China didn't think of this first tbh.
dyson is a fancy thing doing the same work but has wow factor for showing off to mates.
All electric heaters convert almost all electricity into heat making them all 99.9%+ efficient.
Any convection or fan heater will heat a given space just as well as this.
Your absolutely mad beyond belief if you use these in place of gas for anything other than instant heat, absolutely not a substitute for central heating for anyone who cares about energy bills.
Electricity is used to transfer energy from one place to another.
When using electricity as a heater the goal is to convert the electricity being carried by the wire into heat.
The heater is essentially a huge resistor which so it consumes power by resisting the current which heats the wire (element)
Almost all energy from the electricity is converted to heat, a small amount may be given off as light if the element glows but it is minuscule.
Given energy can neither be created or destroyed of its not entirely converted to heat then what is it converted to?
Reference distributing heat throughout the room, marginal difference between this and any fan heater best case.
Even convection heaters are incredible at distributing heat throughout the room. The fact that hot air rises provides excellent circulation around a room in itself.
As for the money saving comment, utter sh*te. I have an energy monitor and can see it uses the same as a bog standard £10 heater fan, it'll still cause epic bills if you use it all day regularly.
As for the money saving comment, utter sh*te. I have an energy monitor and can see it uses the same as a bog standard £10 heater fan, it'll still cause epic bills if you use it all day regularly.[/Yquote]
Years and years? This has a ONE YEAR warranty!
The elephant in the room, of course, is why there is such a huge supply of these manufacturer refurbished devices.
Current vacuum models are junk, and the service now matches. There are plenty of parts for the older vacuum cleaners, which is the precise reason a refurb older model is probably a better idea than a new one, but these over-priced comedy devices are in another league altogether.
https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.dyson.co.uk
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/homeowners/dyson.html
Yes it will draw the same amount of power as a £7 heater, but because it distributes it quickly around the room you don't need to use it for as long or at the same power level. Thus, saving money.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3091294/hospital-chiefs-spend-whopping-1-2m-on-more-than-5000-trendy-bladeless-dyson-fans/
It's why there's other laws of Physics than just those of thermodynamics - there's always other factors at play.