Another server deal, as these are end of life with Dell this is probably the last few deals around on these servers. A lot of CPU for not a lot of cash.
Intel Xeon E3-1225 v3 3.2GHz (3.6GHz boost) Quad-Core,
4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3 ECC UDIMM
1TB 7200rpm LFF SATA
Gigabit LAN
290W PSU
1 Year Warranty
Free next day delivery as well with code: DELLFREEUK
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Uridium
30 Mar 173#17
I look after data centres full of servers for a living.......These are entry level servers designed for Small Office environments...I have one of these Del T20's and another workgroup level server similar (a HP one) under my desk at home. Both are quieter than the Dell desktop PC sitting next to them....
jimhuf
30 Mar 173#12
This is designed to sit next to a desk and is quiet
Latest comments (67)
MarkT1967
12 Apr 17#67
Not actually played with Hyper-v, might have to have a look at that. Thanks
MarkT1967
12 Apr 17#65
I'm after a server to get to grips with Windows Server from 2012 to 2016, is this any good or anything around the price or even a bit cheaper if poss, Thanks
adigraham to MarkT1967
12 Apr 17#66
I have this with £32gb of ram (extra £150) and Win10 pro with hyper-v and W2016 servers running fine.
adigraham
7 Apr 171#64
I have just done exactly that, bought the cable and be careful the case isn't wide so i went for a slimmer psu:-
I got one of these a couple of months back for about the same price after cashback. Running MacOS Sierra very stable on it. Maybe I was unlucky but there is a bit of a whir from the fans - by comparison the Lenovo TS140 is silent (I own both).
Marekj
4 Apr 17#62
Took another look over the weekend, and you are absolutely correct - Not sure how I missed that.
mrew42
3 Apr 17#61
Ordered Friday, arrived today.
It's sat next to me on my desk and all I can say is wow, it's quiet.
Much better than the Packard Bell desktop it's replacing.
Berhwale
2 Apr 17#60
The PSU in my T20 doesn't have SATA power cables attached, the one in the picture in post #24 doesn't either. The SATA power cable is plugged into the motherboard just to the right of the DIMM slots - if you trace the black/red/yellow cable you'll see that it doesn't go anywhere near the PSU.
Do you have a T20 with a PSU with SATA power connectors?
Marekj
1 Apr 171#59
Not 100% sure what you mean. The PSU has sata connectors to power the hard drives, with separate sata data cables connecting the drives to the motherboard. I.e. A traditional setup. Unless I've misinterpreted what you are saying.
The 1060 works fine, but I wouldn't try anything with a larger power requirement, due to what the sata power cable is capable of safely delivering
Berhwale
1 Apr 17#58
You are correct in stating that the PSU can cope with the overall power draw. However, I'd be a little wary of using a Molex to PCI-E adapter as all of the power from the PSU is routed through the motherboard - if you look closely at the picture in post #24 you'll see that the hard drives are powered from the motherboard, not the PSU.
I'm not saying that you can't power a 1060 with a molex to PCI-E adapter, but there is a risk that you fry the motherboard when trying.
quantum77
31 Mar 17#57
would this be any good as a replacement to an old desktop, just for playing 5+ year old games on?
RhysLloyd2002
31 Mar 17#54
there was a server up the other day. it was a lenovo with the same Intel Xeon processor but with 16gb ddr4 ram and 2t storage for just £201
jasee to RhysLloyd2002
31 Mar 171#56
IIRC that (a TS150) was a misprice, no-one got one
OrribleHarry
31 Mar 172#55
I guess that's me told lol apologies was only trying to advise.
Marekj
31 Mar 171#53
Yes. Entire system at full load would pull around 200w.
I wouldn't stick anything meatier than a 1060 in there, though.
Apologies - forgot to add that you will need a sata to 6pin adapter. Widely available on eBay and Amazon.
Berhwale
31 Mar 171#52
I think the 1060 requires a separate 8 pin PCI-E power cable which the T20 lacks.
One of these widgets will let you swap out the PSU for a standard ATX unit...
Purchased yesterday, replaced the ram with 16gb of old ddr3 from the spares box, added a gtx 1060 with a sata to 6pin cable and I now have a very quiet new gaming box.
komi to Marekj
31 Mar 171#51
does the existing PSU support the GTX 1060?
Berhwale
31 Mar 172#49
You shouldn't make assumptions about the trade-offs i'm prepared to make between cost, operational complexity, operational risk and the value I place on the data.
I consider the majority of my data to be transient and replaceable; it's therefore not worth the time, effort and expense of backing it up.
ohaidoggie
31 Mar 17#48
Possibly stupid question - would it be worth putting 2133 ddr3 in this or would it bottleneck somewhere?
The.Lone.Ranger
31 Mar 17#47
Windows 10, not home edition
tawse57
31 Mar 17#44
Does this have built-in GPU on the Xeon processor or do you have to buy a GPU card?
OrribleHarry to tawse57
31 Mar 171#46
Yes there is built in GPU it has dual Displayports and VGA connections so it works out of the box.
Please note the Xeon version also has KVM capabilities too, even from BIOS screen, it's very handy.
tawse57
31 Mar 17#43
I wonder what the price was back in January - Dell had £80 cashback back then.
OrribleHarry to tawse57
31 Mar 171#45
I paid £201 after cashback
MA3STRO
30 Mar 17#8
This looks like a great deal.
Has anyone here bought a tower server and upgraded it for their home PC?
busiestbaronsmd to MA3STRO
30 Mar 171#9
Many times... good for basic home use aswell as gaming when paired with a capable gpu
TrevorPH to MA3STRO
30 Mar 17#10
Only if you're deaf or have the ability to site it somewhere where the noise it makes won't bother you. Servers are designed to be in Data Centres and the noise they make is not taken into account there.
jameshothothot to MA3STRO
30 Mar 171#15
I got a dell t7500 from ebay for £160. e5620 cpu which has around 5000 cpu benchmark, equivalent to an i5. has 4 cores, 8 threads. pair it with an rx470 and it plays every game 1080p ultra for total cost of £310 (£150 for graphics card). the t7500 has a massive psu so can use 2x graphics cards in the future. check out the t5500 and t3500 for smaller versions
bladeflyer to MA3STRO
31 Mar 171#42
Yes, Im running this server as a desktop for photo editing. Upgraded it to 32GB and a 512GB SSD. Currently running Windows 10 with 2 x Dell 2515H monitors off the built in display ports with no issues at all.
This server is basically their Precission Workstation with a different front bezel.
Got mine on a deal a while back for around £180 (after cashback), runs brilliantly with Windows 10. Is very quiet with 4 drives and a GTX 1050 Ti, also upgraded to 32gb Ram.
tawse57 to turbomonkey911
31 Mar 17#39
Who did you buy it from?
Vikingtons
31 Mar 17#38
Can confirm. I use it for gaming too. Have a 1060 with a modified mobo cable for power. Runs silent when playing The Witcher 3 on high settings at 1080p
OrribleHarry
31 Mar 17#37
You should never have primary and secondary copies in the same location let alone on same machine. A theft, fire or virus could take out everything in one fell swoop.
Berhwale
31 Mar 17#36
I have a couple of 4TB external drives connected to the USB3 adapter passed-through to DSM. I run a nightly backup of 'important' stuff to these drives, really important stuff is also sync'd to cloud storage using the native capabilities of the Synology OS.
ohaidoggie
31 Mar 17#34
Would this run windows 10 for example?
I really like the idea of getting a cheapy home server and using it as a base - component costs alone make this a good idea. I'm very new to building my own PCs however. Has anyone got a good component "stack" of GPU, SSD, PSU etc that would be compatible with this?
komi
31 Mar 17#32
Can this take standard DDR 3 Ram ? or is DDR3-SDRAM different ?
mrew42 to komi
31 Mar 171#33
Yes. It's the same
OrribleHarry
31 Mar 17#31
Good idea but how are you backing up?
Berhwale
31 Mar 17#30
It supports VT-d, which makes it great for vSphere. I pass PCI-e SATA and USB3 adapters straight through to a Xpenology NAS VM. This meant I could move my 4 disk array from a physical Xpenology server directly to DSM hosted on a VM.
tawse57
31 Mar 171#29
4GB of memory for this is about £44 on Crucial, about £82 for 8GB.
A buyer might want to factor those costs when considering buying this. It might be better to look for something with some more memory already in it for a slightly higher price.
mrew42
31 Mar 17#28
Just my plan too
What OS are you using?
The.Lone.Ranger
31 Mar 17#27
This is pretty quiet, I use one as my home desktop. Much quieter than the old one it replaced. Put a 750ti in it, extra 16GB, SSD boot drive and 3TB of extra storage. Very happy with it.
guru_fordy
31 Mar 171#26
7000+ PassMark CPU points is amazing for almost £200. I've got a TS140 and it really flies with 5-6 VMs running. Just slap a RAM upgrade and SSD in and you'll be sorted.
Heat!
OrribleHarry
31 Mar 17#25
These are actually pretty silent I have a couple in my office as development machines
jasee
31 Mar 171#24
I don't know why 'they' make it so hard to see the inside of this server. It's one of the most important views IMO
Quote:
Although the case is deeper than your average desktop midi tower, the positioning of the MicroATX motherboard relative to the bottom drive cage means you won't be able to take advantage of the extra depth. PCI-E cards have 265mm of space before they grind against the cage.
The E93839 motherboard has two PCI-E x16 slots, one of which is full speed and other of which runs at x4, as well as PCI-E x1 slot and a PCI slot. PSU is a basic 290W model, so bear that in mind before planning any power-hungry upgrades.
richstroller
30 Mar 17#23
I have one with 16gb ram. Lovely little home media server running plex. Not really explored its potential yet.
Ian2014
30 Mar 17#22
And Dell T20 does not require ECC RAM - I've got a mix if ECC/non-ECC in my Pentium version and 16Gb non-ECC in the Xeon
dealstuff
30 Mar 17#20
Cheers - tempted to add an extra 4GB RAM
Tylocco to dealstuff
30 Mar 17#21
I've got 32gb in mine. Runs 2 virtual machines very quickly and quietly. Could run many more
MA3STRO
30 Mar 171#19
That's good to hear.
I do a lot of video work so I'm keen on getting one with a lot of cores (and threads).
I might check some out on eBay as well. Some bargains to be had.
jameshothothot
30 Mar 17#18
my dell t7500 is really quiet. as you say, towers are designed for offices?
Uridium
30 Mar 173#17
I look after data centres full of servers for a living.......These are entry level servers designed for Small Office environments...I have one of these Del T20's and another workgroup level server similar (a HP one) under my desk at home. Both are quieter than the Dell desktop PC sitting next to them....
Gkains
30 Mar 17#16
If you find a tower server like this loud, wait until you hear 1U server which is actually meant for a Data Centre (this isn't). Lots of 40mm fans spinning at up to 10,000 RPM will make a lot of noise. Enterprise HDDs are lout too.
cjed
30 Mar 17#14
Most of the current generation of "entry-level" tower servers (like the T20, Lenovo TS140/150, HPE ML10 Gen 9, HP Microserver Gen8) are intended for siting in offices and hence have pretty low noise levels. I have a couple of TS140s (one as a desktop and one as a server) and they're very quiet. They also tend to be pretty efficient power wise as well.
Ian2014
30 Mar 17#13
The HP ML110 G7 mentioned in post #7 is NOT quiet once temperatures rise (even in an English summer!).
I've tweaked the fans on my HP so it's ok now but the T20 is quiet as delivered, both Pentium and Xeon versions. If anything the side panels tend to vibrate a bit which are annoying.
jimhuf
30 Mar 173#12
This is designed to sit next to a desk and is quiet
wavylines
30 Mar 171#11
the Pentium version of these is actually fairly quiet at full load
Uridium
30 Mar 17#7
Good price but not the best Home server out there, lack of front drive bays and DRAC are disappointing as is the single NIC
I bought one to replace an ageing HP ML110G7 and ended up using it for a different purpose as the old ML110 is a far better server. Now discontinued but plenty of near new on ebay....
jai47
30 Mar 17#6
Good deal!... £100 cheaper than Dells outlet price:
Opening post
Intel Xeon E3-1225 v3 3.2GHz (3.6GHz boost) Quad-Core,
4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3 ECC UDIMM
1TB 7200rpm LFF SATA
Gigabit LAN
290W PSU
1 Year Warranty
Free next day delivery as well with code: DELLFREEUK
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Latest comments (67)
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quote=Berhwale]I think the 1060 requires a separate 8 pin PCI-E power cable which the T20 lacks.
One of these widgets will let you swap out the PSU for a standard ATX unit...https://www.moddiy.com/products/Dell-OptiPlex-3020-PSU-Main-Power-24%252dPin-to-8%252dPin-Adapter-Cable-%2830cm%29.html[/quote]
It's sat next to me on my desk and all I can say is wow, it's quiet.
Much better than the Packard Bell desktop it's replacing.
Do you have a T20 with a PSU with SATA power connectors?
The 1060 works fine, but I wouldn't try anything with a larger power requirement, due to what the sata power cable is capable of safely delivering
I'm not saying that you can't power a 1060 with a molex to PCI-E adapter, but there is a risk that you fry the motherboard when trying.
I wouldn't stick anything meatier than a 1060 in there, though.
Apologies - forgot to add that you will need a sata to 6pin adapter. Widely available on eBay and Amazon.
One of these widgets will let you swap out the PSU for a standard ATX unit...
https://www.moddiy.com/products/Dell-OptiPlex-3020-PSU-Main-Power-24%252dPin-to-8%252dPin-Adapter-Cable-%2830cm%29.html
I consider the majority of my data to be transient and replaceable; it's therefore not worth the time, effort and expense of backing it up.
Please note the Xeon version also has KVM capabilities too, even from BIOS screen, it's very handy.
Has anyone here bought a tower server and upgraded it for their home PC?
This server is basically their Precission Workstation with a different front bezel.
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/dell-poweredge-t20-tower-server-xeon-e3-v3-244-89-174-89-after-cashback-serverplus-2303497
I really like the idea of getting a cheapy home server and using it as a base - component costs alone make this a good idea. I'm very new to building my own PCs however. Has anyone got a good component "stack" of GPU, SSD, PSU etc that would be compatible with this?
A buyer might want to factor those costs when considering buying this. It might be better to look for something with some more memory already in it for a slightly higher price.
What OS are you using?
Heat!
Quote:
Although the case is deeper than your average desktop midi tower, the positioning of the MicroATX motherboard relative to the bottom drive cage means you won't be able to take advantage of the extra depth. PCI-E cards have 265mm of space before they grind against the cage.
The E93839 motherboard has two PCI-E x16 slots, one of which is full speed and other of which runs at x4, as well as PCI-E x1 slot and a PCI slot. PSU is a basic 290W model, so bear that in mind before planning any power-hungry upgrades.
I do a lot of video work so I'm keen on getting one with a lot of cores (and threads).
I might check some out on eBay as well. Some bargains to be had.
I've tweaked the fans on my HP so it's ok now but the T20 is quiet as delivered, both Pentium and Xeon versions. If anything the side panels tend to vibrate a bit which are annoying.
I bought one to replace an ageing HP ML110G7 and ended up using it for a different purpose as the old ML110 is a far better server. Now discontinued but plenty of near new on ebay....
http://outlet.euro.dell.com/Online/SecondaryInventorySearch.aspx?c=uk&cs=ukdfb1&l=en&s=dfb&sign=PXhcOSHtr1T4IOw%2fPR7UdW9lswg62vBFl83P76FNKIijtcBb2ZpZ%2fZBp9WtHdngatn5znxy8BJYBOv2cj4laHYhyktwYTBtQTqUQ8DZ0tlrazHmcFBIUM5ulKddMILU67e52it78BfOyDcoPI7MJ6hMhd8YiuHj%2fcH%2bCsOU9n8vTysGmlgE9mBztRgnUnhJby3uyJ9CSR4mmE2KpbdRkxA%3d%3d
Full processor spec here - https://ark.intel.com/products/75461/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-1225-v3-8M-Cache-3_20-GHz
Have some heat that man.