pal you have spent £300+ on a 7700k plus £100+ on a motherboard capable of that overclock and your throwing in a £35 120mm cooling fan. This is ideal for many people but not you.

To be fair 120mm AIO's are pretty much useless if you plan to do any overclocking. They're fine for a stock clocks or a really mild OC. I'd just reccomend something like the hyper 212 same if not slightly better performance than 120mm aios and £10 cheaper not to mentions significantly quiter. Rule of thumb is unless you can atleast get a 240 just skip aios.

Happy to help. There's loads of info out there about this kind of stuff, you just have to know what you're looking for and where to find it! :laughing:

Air is often better than water, something like a Noctua NH-D15 (which, to be fair, is probably the best air cooler you can buy) will perform better than many AIO liquid coolers, especially smaller 120mm and 140mm models. I know water cooling sounds err...cooler...than boring old air cooling, but some high end air coolers are really bloody impressive and some low end AIO water coolers are a total let down.

As above, this (or any 120mm AIO, to be fair) really isn't the cooler for 5Ghz 7700k. You want something much more substantial to keep everything at both an acceptable temperature and volume.

Something like an H110i/H115i or equivalent from your brand of choice would be far better suited to the task of keeping a 5Ghz 7700k cool(ish) without sounding like a 747 on take off.

Watch this video when you've got some spare time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzmvDEb09W8&t

EDIT: Written version of the video: https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/kaby_lake_7700k_5ghz_aio_cooler_mega_test/1

My Kraken :smile:

I agree with the others, you need a bigger radiator especially if you want it halfway quiet. Mine is 280MM for reference.

does this work on am4?

Okay but to be fair one single case of anecdotal evidence isn't exactly the whole story. Given the damage it could do to their reputation plus the potential legal trouble I doubt it's really something they go for.
Conversely I have bought literally hundreds of items from ebuyer (yes seriously, hundreds) and have never come across this issue. Also their after sales support / returns have been fantastic so I doubt returning something that appears to be used would be an issue in the slightest (infact I know it wouldn't because they accept returns for any reason within 14 days of delivery)

Building my younger sister a budget red and black pc, so this deal is perfect. Thanks! :wink:

To be fair, sometimes "refurb" means "The box was dinged, so we put it in another one.", although if they're selling refurbs, they should mark them as such!

Happened to an online friend of mine, who ordered a motherboard from them.

You've given me good stuff here. I am learning a lot. Cooling has never been something I've known a lot about. My old PCs all ran at a decent temperature. Got a 90C+ doing the bench mark test on the CPU, and knew I had to change it up.

It runs at 41 in idle, and I think that's a bit high as well.

Gonna do my homework. Got all the Benchmarks, now to make sure it doesn't set on fire because of them haha

The price of tech these days, it will soon be cheaper to get a girlfriend :smiley:

Something to be aware of:- ebuyer have been known to sell refurb components as new.

Cpu will be the last thing the air hits before it's sucked out the back if it all goes to plan.

Someone online said they did it, and it ran cooler. It make sense to me. The time the air will spend in the cabinet will only be around a second, so a faster cycle out outside cooler air can only be good. Even if it passes through the cooling radiator first.

I could put the cooling radiator last, and have a normal fan in the front I guess, then the last thing before exhaust would be the cpu and the radiator

I know what you're saying, but hoping to mount it at the front as an intake, and then have the air pass all the way through, and expelled at the back. So Liquid cooled CPU, and extra flow of air through the whole case.

Youtube people were saying their systems ran around 20C cooler, and that would be a huge help for my current 5ghz clock speed.

thank you so much for that, reading through it now.

my main thought was anything was better than air cooling, but seeing this thorough side by side of all the liquid cooling is amazing.

thanks for taking the time to show me that, really appreciate it.

The reviews I read put it on the 6600k. If it doesn't do the job, I'll find something more substantial, but an improvement over the stock fan no question.

What would you recommend? Was looking at some of the higher end Corsair, but didn't think trying a contact cooler because I have corsair vengeance ram, and I thought it might be a tight squeeze.

20 degree C cooler on similar builds to mine with the cooler though, And with the £100 price tag on Amazon, didn't think I was skimping out.. guess I might be haha

pal you have spent £300+ on a 7700k plus £100+ on a motherboard capable of that overclock and your throwing in a £35 120mm cooling fan. This is ideal for many people but not you.

To be fair 120mm AIO's are pretty much useless if you plan to do any overclocking. They're fine for a stock clocks or a really mild OC. I'd just reccomend something like the hyper 212 same if not slightly better performance than 120mm aios and £10 cheaper not to mentions significantly quiter. Rule of thumb is unless you can atleast get a 240 just skip aios.

I was thinking the dual, but didn't want it to take up a lot space in my case.

I got a new 7700k, and over clocked it smashing 80 C !! So had to go for liquid cooled, and this was the coolest cheapest one I could find haha. Love it's breathing LED, and see through ceramic to see the coloured liquid..

I know it's about 75% novelty, and 25% practicality haha.

It's 50 all over eBay as well. Can't wait to get it set up :smiley:

no one would ever pay £100 for a 1x 120mm CLC. it doesn't matter what amazon might have listed the price once as. it'd be overpriced even at £70.

the seldon deal has dual 120mm pwm fans. and is only £11 more. and cools better.

it's an alright price versus air coolers at the same price if you can't stretch for the extra £11 though.