This, and the other Echo thread will be full of these comments within the next 6 hours - but it highlights the essential 'issue' of the Echo/Dot integration.

If you just have an Echo and no other services - you'll get bored with it. It doesn't do much, really. Yes, nice to ask questions and handy to set alarms, but really - the voice assistant on your phone does that.

But the Echo comes into it's own as an accessory to a Smart Home - if you already posses one.
I have an Echo in the kitchen - this is used a lot for kitchen timers (you can set more than one - I had 10 going at Christmas for the Christmas dinner and trimmings), listening to Radio Player or playing music from Spotify. It's also handy for asking for conversion of Centigrade to Fahrenheit, logging when either myself or the Mrs has fed the cat, and playing the latest news whilst I'm washing up the baby bottles at night.
Move to the lounge, and the Dot in there controls my TV (I can change channels, or just get the TV/Tivo all starting up if I walk into the room with my hands full), control the heating (I have the Honeywell Evohome system which allows me to control the temperature in every room of the house) as well as connect to my soundbar via bluetooth for some further Spotify listening. Lastly, I have 2 lights that can be controlled in there too - again, handy if you walk in with hands full.
Lastly, in the bedroom. This Dot is my alarm in the morning (you can press a button to turn it off, you don't have to speak), it plays Lullabies to my 4 month old daughter when she's going off to sleep in her cot, controls the lights in the bedroom as well as the morning questions about how cold it is outside when you're getting dressed and deciding what to wear, or whether it will rain, plus radio/spotify duties on a Sunday morning, etc.

All with my voice.
Yes, I could get up and turn the light on. I could walk into each room of the house and alter the radiator. I could have a digital radio in each room and a connected media player for spotify (somehow) and also an alarm clock by my bed. I could buy a new timer for the kitchen (and another 9 for Christmas dinner) and I could just use the remote to turn the TV on 5 seconds later when I've put down whatever is in my hands. I could also have a scruffy piece of paper on the fridge for a shopping list with a pen that only works for 3 words when writing on a vertical surface. But I don't need to.

I wouldn't say it's life changing, but it is really useful. And it has replaced many devices, simplifying my gadgets.

And lest not forget the things you remote control don't have to be in the same room. I can turn the TV on and the lounge lights from the kitchen, when my 3yo asks to watch Thomas. I can also wish it a good morning, and she tells me an interesting fact about the day.

It's not for everyone. It needs to connect to some other things to be useful. But works great for me.

The telescreen received and transmitted simultaneously. Any sound Winston made, above the level of a very low whisper, would be picked up by it; moreover, so long as he remained within the field of vision which the metal plaque commanded, he could be seen as well as heard. There was of course no way of knowing whether you were being watched at any given moment. How often, or on what system, the Thought Police plugged in on any individual wire was guesswork. It was even conceivable that they watched everybody all the time. But at any rate they could plug in your wire whenever the wanted to. You had to live- did live, from habit that became instinct- in the assumption that every sound you made was overheard, and, except in darkness, every movement scrutinised.

Can I have it then?

With free 50TB of online storage (at the NSA)

and controller?

Heat added. Echo is a life changer, we have 6 around the house which control the heating, lights, TV along with the regular functions of shopping list etc.

This, and the other Echo thread will be full of these comments within the next 6 hours - but it highlights the essential 'issue' of the Echo/Dot integration.

If you just have an Echo and no other services - you'll get bored with it. It doesn't do much, really. Yes, nice to ask questions and handy to set alarms, but really - the voice assistant on your phone does that.

But the Echo comes into it's own as an accessory to a Smart Home - if you already posses one.
I have an Echo in the kitchen - this is used a lot for kitchen timers (you can set more than one - I had 10 going at Christmas for the Christmas dinner and trimmings), listening to Radio Player or playing music from Spotify. It's also handy for asking for conversion of Centigrade to Fahrenheit, logging when either myself or the Mrs has fed the cat, and playing the latest news whilst I'm washing up the baby bottles at night.
Move to the lounge, and the Dot in there controls my TV (I can change channels, or just get the TV/Tivo all starting up if I walk into the room with my hands full), control the heating (I have the Honeywell Evohome system which allows me to control the temperature in every room of the house) as well as connect to my soundbar via bluetooth for some further Spotify listening. Lastly, I have 2 lights that can be controlled in there too - again, handy if you walk in with hands full.
Lastly, in the bedroom. This Dot is my alarm in the morning (you can press a button to turn it off, you don't have to speak), it plays Lullabies to my 4 month old daughter when she's going off to sleep in her cot, controls the lights in the bedroom as well as the morning questions about how cold it is outside when you're getting dressed and deciding what to wear, or whether it will rain, plus radio/spotify duties on a Sunday morning, etc.

All with my voice.
Yes, I could get up and turn the light on. I could walk into each room of the house and alter the radiator. I could have a digital radio in each room and a connected media player for spotify (somehow) and also an alarm clock by my bed. I could buy a new timer for the kitchen (and another 9 for Christmas dinner) and I could just use the remote to turn the TV on 5 seconds later when I've put down whatever is in my hands. I could also have a scruffy piece of paper on the fridge for a shopping list with a pen that only works for 3 words when writing on a vertical surface. But I don't need to.

I wouldn't say it's life changing, but it is really useful. And it has replaced many devices, simplifying my gadgets.

And lest not forget the things you remote control don't have to be in the same room. I can turn the TV on and the lounge lights from the kitchen, when my 3yo asks to watch Thomas. I can also wish it a good morning, and she tells me an interesting fact about the day.

It's not for everyone. It needs to connect to some other things to be useful. But works great for me.

Life changing, lying in bed switch on the heating in the en suite and the living room before getting up, dim the bedside lamps without moving. Switch off all the lights downstairs with one voice command.

Shopping list is not just a case of having a piece of paper and a pen. I don't know about you but I tend to not carry the SAME piece of paper and a pen 24 hours a day. I add things to shopping list whilst in the middle of cooking, or realising that we only have x amount of bars of soap/tubes of toothpaste remaining.

You can write a letter with a piece of paper and a pen but Microsoft have done pretty well out of MS Office.

The telescreen received and transmitted simultaneously. Any sound Winston made, above the level of a very low whisper, would be picked up by it; moreover, so long as he remained within the field of vision which the metal plaque commanded, he could be seen as well as heard. There was of course no way of knowing whether you were being watched at any given moment. How often, or on what system, the Thought Police plugged in on any individual wire was guesswork. It was even conceivable that they watched everybody all the time. But at any rate they could plug in your wire whenever the wanted to. You had to live- did live, from habit that became instinct- in the assumption that every sound you made was overheard, and, except in darkness, every movement scrutinised.

I have one without any lights/TV/housey stuff integrated. Its absolutely great for playing music, radio, podcasts, news and setting alarms/reminders. Music especially, just ask it to play jazz, piano music, indie acoustic nineties music or whatever, and it will play a related playlist that goes on all day. Its also handy just saying "alexa, shut up" when the phone or doorbell goes.

I was given one of these as a gift - biggest waste of time going. Used it for a week, couldn't see the point or how it improved my life so it's now in a drawer.....

With free 50TB of online storage (at the NSA)

Sell evil corp your soul.

Posted this on the Argos deal. Worth bearing in mind with Google Home probably launching in a few weeks now is not a great time to get the standalone Echo. I'd expect to see deals about the £99 mark soon and then it might be worth it again :-

I've got two Dots and they are great. I mainly use them to provide Spotify connections to decent HiFi or as a bluetooth receiver/sender. A crap bluetooth receiver costs similar and the Dot offers other bonus. I have to say I think Dot is better value then main echo if you have good HiFi or bluetooth speaker. Most reviewers say the same. Either way I wouldn't buy the main echo now google home is coming...better AI and better speaker too. The Dot is still a good buy as neither echo or home has 3.5mm out and it probably £100 ash cheaper. I've also had not issues with connection. I even shout at it from two rooms away when using to cast Spotify to bluetooth speaker in bathroom.

No doubt this and any other always on system is already passing data back to the various security agencies.

Pretty sure Google, Amazon etc are harvesting data, collecting your conversations so they can understand you better.

But hey, it can set multiple timers and turn lights on... Woo hoo!

People over-rate what it *can do*. What I find really attractive is saying "Alexa..please blues radio" and it knows what to do. No "finding the app, wait, click, wrong button". Being able to use it as a bluetooth speaker is almost seamless (annoying if walk out of room with tablet, and BT is disconnected). Whilst it can do many things, and has "skills" (synonym for 'useless app'), getting weather and some local info, news & radio, whilst using voice, is useful. The IoT stuff is just a solution looking for a problem, and in the event of power outage or Wifi router needing a reboot, then Alexa turns into a dead-weight.

Every Echo thread now and forever more:

"Great. Handy. So many uses."

"ZOMG. Big brother. GCHQ. Tinfoil hats."

says someone who knows nothing about the fact that Google's main focus is now AI and that they will indeed use Google Home and Google Assistant to harvest data to enhance this...unlike some of the products they have launched it is not experimental and it is key to their long term strategy.

Gud 4 u.

Try this thread if you're on the fence on the echo and home, they're both great!

http://www.hotukdeals.com/misc/google-home-amazon-echo-thread-2620375?p=30295530#post30300528

I would always pick an Amazon service over a google one. Google have cancelled so many services I came to rely on. I think its could be called 'bait and switch'. iGoogle and Picasa to name two. Also Google has access to so much info over our lives coz of gmail and search, I would rather not give them more, so will stick with the Echo. PS I find its brilliant as a bedroom alarm clock radio.

After reading the comments, I have to wonder about how much all this smart home idea costs.

Firstly, Amazon have also dropped the price to £134.99, so no real deal from anyone else as Amazon do offer good support on returns/replacements.

Then the cost of adding receivers to replace standard sockets/plugs for house electrics. Adding smart controls for heating, maybe smart light bulbs. At the prices I see on the internet, we're talking thousands of pounds making a home that actually makes people take even less exercise.

A lovely thought if you're wealthy enough to afford these new toys, but they aren't cost effective. I seriously doubt anyone makes any savings at all from smart homes. Add in the gym membership so your waistline stays smaller rather than expand. :smiley:

Love mine. Got one of these and several dots. Got a house full of hue bulbs and the hive heating which works well, audible is great for the kids, music when cooking. Mine also controls my observatory (opens and closes roof) and robot vacuum (bodged up the remote control with a pi), looking to develop some skills next. Utterly pointless and expensive but oh so brilliant (especially if you grew up watching Star Trek TNG as a kid). Got one in the car too, speech recogntion that actually works. Would love it if you could send messages and emails though.

Am i the only one missing the point of these and everything becoming "Smart" in your home , what if your internet goes down , your whole ecosystem stops working the way you like , how easier does it actually make your life or are people really getting that lazy? My smartphone can do more than I would ever like via voice . Can't justify the price or even the purpose of these

neither hot or cold. same price as argos

I use both my Dots daily.
Very handy devices, that make life that little bit easier.
Looking forward to SONOS integration soon.

Same price on Amazon.

To sum up, this Amazon Echo is a great price @ £134.95...as long as you are willing to spend a further £500 on accessories that make it worthwhile.

You are not wrong.
I already had some DLink plugs and a Nest thermostat. Due to having the Echo it 'made' me buy some Phillips Hue bulbs that I am loving.
I'm also on the verge of subscribing to the music service above the normal Prime I have.
The fact I won the Echo in the Santas locker competition has meant I actually probably am going to spend more with Amazon. Incredibly clever from them.

Agree totally. At what point do you want everything done for you? We're a bone-idle and instantly gratifiable 'civilisation' as it is, at what point will people realise that satisfaction comes as a result of effort/patience?

Not at all.
I got my Echo for £100 at launch. I still think that's too expensive.

However, the Dot is a great price at £49.99 (rrp).

And I already had a smart home (universal remote, heating controls, remote light switches) and a load of different ways of controlling them all. This just brings them all together.

The most expensive being the smart home heating - but the fact I can control each room of my house individually will propagate savings into my gas bill every month. It should pay for itself within 1.5 years of use as well as making it far easier to manage the temperature of the house.

And remote switches are now cheap. I built my system which controls 4 lights in 2 rooms, and a virgin media modem (to reboot it if the internet goes down) and a spare for the Christmas lights for a total of £42. But it depends on what you've already got (I had a Raspberry Pi which these are all controlled by). But that route isn't for everyone.

A slow cooker or a sandwich toaster would be cheaper for anyone wanting a gadget to use for a bit and then put in a cupboard and forget about.

Heat for price .... :smiley:
The unit itself needs more work. Sometimes disconnects for days then come back like a lost cat. As for the lights it does work but omg sooo literal like an old head teacher if you must be exact and setting up 30 scenes is a pain especially if you have to reset it! Shopping list find this hard to use because it doesn't always get what you say "add toilet roll to my shopping list" ... i have added ten monkeys to your reminder :s
Would love it to integrate with tv but we're not there yet without buying logitech harmony or a fire stick which will only control prime.
That being said playing music is great love it for that. If you're on the other side of the room and the music is on be prepared to shout because she obviously won't hear you.
Summary has good uses but is a smart home add on among hundreds of add ons and am left feeling i wish I wasn't so eager to rush out and buy one as i use Siri far more as much as I wanted Alexa to replace it is the home. Siri is better when closer, Alexa is better when futher but the philips hue remote is right next to my bed and I don't have to utter a word. :wink:

Can the Echo control Hue bulbs directly? What is the point of the hub -e.g. connection is Voice ---Echo ---Network Router--Phillips hub - Phillips Hue bulb. In the shop the assistant was helpful but said it even confused him - I was after bayonets, and the light plus kit yet I have to cobble it all together with bayonet to Edison convertors. Rant over.

They really want to know just what you want to spend your money on :smiley:

If that's the case then shouldn't you be knocking on everyone's doors to tell them what you've just said,instead of using the internet to instantly get you point across.

I'm quite aware that I'm sounding a bit like a Luddite. But it was more a question, at what point do we draw the line at everything being done for us? The internet is clearly a valuable tool, but as some others have posted, a lot of tech like this is a solution looking for a problem.

Interested how you control ten alarms and if you've found a way to set a name for each one (I.e. Peas for 5, beans for 6) so you can easily identify what alarm was for what & also adjust length if required. I've tested on just two alarms and find it quite frustrating if you want to make changes / cancel. Thanks

No it can't :smiley: you need the hub to work the bulbs otherwise they are standard bulbs. Think of the echo or apple siri as a voice remote for the hub which intern controls the bulbs. As for the bulbs you can buy bayonet or screw fittings but some use the convertors if they find one cheaper than the other like.

It was alarms to put things on / in the oven. I had everything on the side in order. Alarm goes off? Pick item on the left and put on hob or oven.
Everything was set to finish at the same time - was working backwards from that.

Just project management :wink:

"The wife, when's my tea ready?" "The wife, turn the lights on" "The wife, turn the heating up "The wife, get me a beer" "The wife, add crisps to your shopping list"

It will only ever get worse.

The Internet and mobile phones have changed the world forever,and in some ways it is for the worse.

Example - when I was a lad and I wanted to go out and play,I would have to physically walk to my mates houses to see if they were even in,my daughter just has to pick know up her phone and in an instant she can find out where all her mates are,all without taking a single step.So for things like that I feel it's a shame that sort of face to face interaction has been lost.

That said I have an echo and smart lighting and I love it.I don't have these items so I don't have to get up,it's just far easier to say to change the colour of all the lights in one room as it would be to try and match all the colours of each bulb by eye.

With gadgets like these some say they are for lazy people,but then you could also argue that the same could be said about a TV remote control,yet how many people actually get up and manually change the TV channels.

Can this switch the mother-in-law's life support off?

Yes but you'll have to buy a belkin wemo plug unplug her machine connect the wemo download the app connect it to the wifi and name it in alexa and then it'll work :P

At the end of the day it is each to their own. If it works for you, great. I personally can't see the value in it myself. Objectively it's just a tool like anything else. Where it becomes a problem is people's over reliance on these things. All of a sudden the internet goes down and everyone freaks out!

Probably better to just smother her with a pillow then. Old school style.

Yeah but on the other hand, the Echo isn't going to nag you for not taking out the rubbish or sleep with your best mate....yet.

Wait for version 8.2 for those features.

That's some place you've got there. I'm always impressed when a house has a conservatory let alone a observatory. :stuck_out_tongue:

Recently sold mine after buying one when it was first released. It was good at first but the novelty soon wore off. Voice recognition was fine at times and then sometimes shoddy. It became a running joke in our household that whichever Hive light you asked 'Alexa' to turn on, she'd generally not do so and just switch off a different light instead. The random announcements of "I'm sorry, I don't understand that question" when no one had even spoken - never mind said the word 'Alexa' - also became annoying. The final nail in the coffin was suddenly blasting out a bit of heavy metal one evening with absolutely no warning. After that, it became impossible to trust leaving the thing on...didn't really fancy getting woken up in the middle of the night by loud music.

That's like saying, "what if you have a power cut" when you buy a TV/Microwave/Computer/Radio etc.

how soon you wanted to be done?

The observatory sounds far more impressive than it actually is. It sure ain't Jodrell bank! Just a modified Keter Storage box, with a pi and an 8 channel relay. The conservatory isn't must better, its ended up as the kids playroom where all the toys get shoved.

When did the human race become such a bunch of lazy bone idle slobs?

All you need to be rich is to think of something so f*****g lazy that will save slobs having to lift a finger while thinking "int that brilliant m8, haven't moved all day"

Yeah some people are sooo lazy,

like the ones who have been members of this site for 9 years and can't even be bothered to post a single deal.

Don't suppose you know anyone like that :smile:

Hopefully the Echo Dot will be on sale soon, hopefully from Argos, lower cost option to try the system.

6?? Even at this price, that's 6*134.95=£809.70! For that price you could buy a small Vietnamese* child, have him permanently installed in your home and train him to follow your instructions far better than any Amazon product could.

*other nationalities are available.

You're confusing efficiency with laziness.

Think I'll wait until 28th March and see what Google announce and how Amazon respond. I'm guessing Amazon will drop the price to £120.

clonereeco must be on TalkTalk. My Internet provision is just as reliable as the power to my house!

Do I guess you still drive a car with a choke, physically put the key in the door to open it and have to wind it up to start it, eh?!

I have a Sonos Play 1, I don't use it all that much. Is it worth getting rid of that and getting one of these to replace it?

I have a Sonos Play 1, I don't use it all that much. Is it worth getting rid of that and getting one of these to replace it?

What's that got to do with what I said ?

Google Home will launch in the UK on the 28th. Is better because Google search's are better therefore now is not the best time to buy

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/new-product/audio/google-home-uk-release-date-price-features-specs-rumours-3640527/

i have the dot and love it.

another reason why obesity is on the rise...

Great price. Despite being fully Google in many ways for many years, Echo still wins out at the moment for me due to sheer amount of proven integrations.

Still waiting for it to actually activate just once in the many times our 20 month old shouts a command...
"Alexa, frozen", "Alexa, twenty five Adele", "Alexa, peppa pig", "Alexa, breakfast". (to be fair, even i wish that last one worked!)

​No, that's just people's attitudes - mostly consuming more calories than they burn off.

Voice controlled equipment is also helpful for stemming the rise of RSI our highly interactive physical world demands (keyboards, switches, smartphones, etc)

You really should think about what other people may need to make life easier.

Will wait for Google home looks much better from what I've seem and probably be a lot cheaper than echo :smiley:

I'll be buying a few dots as soon as the sonos driver comes out for them.

​Power cut is far less likely to happen than internet dropping down , I'm with virgin and although it's reliable it does sometimes have issues , especially over WiFi . I just don't think spending this much money on something that isn't really that life changing or helpful IMO, but that's just me , old fashioned , I'll stick with my gas hob and whistling kettle

He probably meant Dots, but your point about child slaves being better and more cost-effective is still valid.

So I'm now going to get fat because I ask Alexa to play a song for me instead of me searching for it on Spotify,can't see it myself.

Interesting to hear of the heating systems that control the temperature in individual rooms. Like many others, I'm sure, I have been using TRVs for decades and have always found them to be inaccurate and unreliable. I wonder if the new systems are similar but with added wifi, electronics, and motorised valves and if this might make them even less reliable.

If the NSA/CIA/MI5/SMERSH/SPECTRE/GCHQ & The Mysterons are listening into my conversations for anything interesting then good luck to them. If they hear anything perhaps they could let me know as they know where to find me.

Or me? Pick me Pick me!!!

They'll be both very similar in price. From my own experience they're both have their pros and cons but at the moment Echo edges it slightly. Google on this occasion needs to catch up a bit on the 2 year head start!

Google Home will be abandoned. 7 months on from release and it still can't do a basic task that the phone version can : https://mobile.twitter.com/RonAmadeo/status/843852120562552832/video/1

No, keep your Play 1 and wait for SONOS integration, due soon.

Or you could perhaps keep the radiators switched off in the rooms you don't need heating, just a thought :smirk:


The missus bellowed down the stairs "what you laughing at?" when I laughed out loud after reading your comment :laughing: three minutes on and I'm still chuckling away at it, post of the week by a country mile

I have been building a cabin at the end of my garden since September. It has fun things for the family to be used year-round. It's not far to the cabin from the house. Maybe 25-30 yards. But in Winter it's dark. I was going to put a switch in by the back door of my house and run the circuit up to some lighting in the cabin. It would have meant digging up recently laid brick block paving and probably around £500-700 in work and equipment.

Instead of that lot, i bought an Echo Dot for £50 and a Mi|Home home automation with 3 wifi sockets and a controller for £50. I connected it up to lighting in the cabin and can now turn on the lights from the house with voice control or via the app from anywhere in the world. It also saved me around £500 quid and is a lot more convenient.

I have also now got the Dot for whatever else, and can raise my son with a future technology.

All-round good deal in my humble opinion.

You have yet to use the Home yet you know it is better?
Hey, it might be better though meantime we know you're guessing. Got an Echo?

A friend has the dot. He was showing off 'look it does this and that'. So I said can we listen to Planet Rock radio (DAB And available online). 'Sure no worries. Alexa play planet rock...... nothing. 10 minutes later he's still faffing about with different commands.

I unlock iPhone. Download and open the planet rock app and stream to his Bluetooth speaker. Easy as pie.

Life changing and simple my foot

If the NCA, MI5, FBI or even the CIA want to listen to me adding deodorant to a shopping list or asking for my TV to change to watch the football then I wish them all the best. It also means they've no organised crime or terrorists to listen to so we're all safer.

How do you read the shopping list when you're in the shop to do the shopping?

Honest question

​It's all saved into the Alexa app on your phone.

​Evohome isn't about just switching a radiator off in the spare room you rarely use.

Every room has its own timer and temperature. That means you can heat your bathroom in just the morning and evening, your bedroom through the night, the lounge in just the evening and the kitchen throughout the day. At whatever temperature you want. Are you going to run around every radiator turning it on and off throughout the day?

I have an office at home. Normally kept cold at 15 degrees, but if I have "WFH" in my Google Calendar, it warms my office to 21 degrees for 8am that day. I don't have to go up to it an hour earlier just to turn it on and I don't forget to turn it off either.

It's seriously impressive kit. Blows Hive out of the water.

Thanks for the reply.

Someone mentioned this device is a "life changer" its not for most.

However, I do feel for a blind person (my understanding is blind people don't find this word 'politically incorrect') or a person confined to a wheel chair, YES this device maybe "life changing".

Ah, the old "nothing to hide, nothing to fear" fallacy. Do you also not believe in free speech because you have nothing to say?

You can ask it to email it to you.

I thought this was a deal thread not an individual soliloquy titled " my life " from Andi Ustinov and friends. It's funny to realise people will spend £135 plus £200 in addons to find out the weather outsisde their window or turn on a lamp 3 seconds before reaching the switch!
Let me guess, you 3 queued overnight for the new iphone didn't you?! Lmao
These people will rightly slander a clothing retailer for using sweatshops to manufacture their goods but will happily throw their cash at tax avoiding firms who treat employees like garbage! ( Alexa told me everything )

​'life changing' I doubt. Most if functionality at the moment is novelty/ laziness . Is it that much of a difficulty to use your finders to switch a light on or press keys on a remove control or turn a dial down unless you physically can't. I'll wait till its finctionality is really life changing as at the moment it's appeal seems to be for the early adopters

Use a remote for your TV? We get that people love to rubbish new time saving tech though it is life changing for my 96 year old gran whom can now listen to almost any music of her choice.
It's not life changing for me though Alexa will be commonplace in 5-10 years, we can't stop progress. :smiley:

We have just moved in to our new abode in the wilds of Lincolnshire, being only two years old I believe it is fitted with this Evohome or something very similiar. Each room has these blue display thermostats so that you can control their heat individually.

I shall get myself up to speed on it all in time for winter because I got far more important issues to worry about. The fella we bought the gaff off had one half of the double garage turned in to an office but being illiterate working class untermensch I don't require anything that professional.



Oh here we go with the Corbynista bash business/love the state to reward failure by taxing success claptrap, drop me out please.

Having had to just pay 12 n half grand stamp duty on our new house by virtue of buying a second home with no intention of selling our previous shoebox in Buckhurst Hill I salute anyone who swerves giving HMRC a single penny more than they have to!

divorce.. much more than £135......

My review, I got the little one (dot only 40 quid ) I understand it is the same without the large speaker which isn't large its about the size of a hockey puck but still has its own inbuilt speaker however I have Bluetooth radio so it just marry's up with that, I would say its more of a gimmick thing but if kids where still at home I could see it could be us-full for homework, I think it will get better through time with added apps, you can get interactive story's that I think kids would like but being a guy I am struggling to get the posh bird (Alexa) to swear but if you ask her explain the abbreviation WTF first then follow up with RTFM which is a lesser known abbreviation for Read The Field Manual you can almost get her to swear and she replaces field with something else.

I hope my research has been of use to someone

My review, I got the little one (dot only 40 quid ) I understand it is the same without the large speaker which isn't large its about the size of a hockey puck but still has its own inbuilt speaker however I have Bluetooth radio so it just marry's up with that, I would say its more of a gimmick thing but if kids where still at home I could see it could be us-full for homework, I think it will get better through time with added apps, you can get interactive story's that I think kids would like but being a guy I am struggling to get the posh bird (Alexa) to swear but if you ask her explain the abbreviation WTF first then follow up with RTFM which is a lesser known abbreviation for Read The Field Manual you can almost get her to swear and she replaces field with something else.

I hope my research has been of use to someone

If you have one you just tried Read The Field Manual, behave yourself and grow up LOL

Fair point about the TV remote with one important difference, you probably use it upwards of fifty times per watching session: browsing and navigating to programs, flicking channels and adjusting volume. You use your light switch twice, once when you walk into the room and again when you walk out. And the light switch is almost always conveniently located by the door.

Using an echo to control your lights is just one of many things you can do.For example I can have my hands dirty in the kitchen and just say to play a song from Spotify and it will do it,this saves me from having to wash my hands and mess around searching for it on my phone and connecting it to a speaker.I can even control my security cameras by voice,again doing this on my phone would mean I have to log into an app.

I just purchased a dot to have a play on. It's just a bit of fun, my twin boys like the jokes and weather reports. I think the google home box might be better

The Alexa app is rubbish. I have my shopping list sync to Todoist which is a much better todo app, and then have the list shared with my wife's Todoist account so we both have access.

My review, I got the little one (dot only 40 quid ) I understand it is the same without the large speaker which isn't large its about the size of a hockey puck but still has its own inbuilt speaker however I have Bluetooth radio so it just marry's up with that, I would say its more of a gimmick thing but if kids where still at home I could see it could be us-full for homework, I think it will get better through time with added apps, you can get interactive story's that I think kids would like but being a guy I am struggling to get the posh bird (Alexa) to swear but if you ask her explain the abbreviation WTF first then follow up with RTFM which is a lesser known abbreviation for Read The Field Manual you can almost get her to swear and she replaces field with something else.

I hope my research has been of use to someone

Could you just post it one more time please? Thanks.

You appear to be spuriously linking 2 separate things in a nonsensical way. IF you "believe" in free speech how is that linked to intelligence agencies listening to you say whatever you want?

Happy to My review, I got the little one (dot only 40 quid ) I understand it is the same without the large speaker which isn't large its about the size of a hockey puck but still has its own inbuilt speaker however I have Bluetooth radio so it just marry's up with that, I would say its more of a gimmick thing but if kids where still at home I could see it could be us-full for homework, I think it will get better through time with added apps, you can get interactive story's that I think kids would like but being a guy I am struggling to get the posh bird (Alexa) to swear but if you ask her explain the abbreviation WTF first then follow up with RTFM which is a lesser known abbreviation for Read The Field Manual you can almost get her to swear and she replaces field with something else.

I hope my research has been of use to someone

:laughing:

You said that you don't mind if people spy on you because you don't do anything worth spying on.
It's equivalent to saying that you don't mind if free speech is eradicated because you don't have anything worth saying.

Edit: also see this: https://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/2015/responding-to-nothing-to-hide-nothing-to-fear

Believe me when i say that while posting on a deal site the last thing on my mind is political persuasion be it Militant left dogsbody " I'm happy with leading on paper " Corbyn or Beige Theresa "i hate us rich chums, honest"
May. Your caveat however speaks volumes as i'm sure playing the wounded animal has worked for you in the past!
I hope a previous comment i posted for a PS4 game won't make me responsible for the crisis in Yemen! :stuck_out_tongue:

That would be why you're whining about Amazon using top briefs and number crunchers to pay as little tax as necessary :smirk:

Nice that you picked one line of my post to justify your stingy reply.
Awww did i ruin your big moment? Lmao

I trust you don't drink in the Tavern in Larhall?

I don't live in Larkhall no.