Think I might need one shabs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxXbpHeIrUc&t=31s:laughing:

Gonna be heat on this one shabs, heat added :smiley:

4 bed detached £60/month average total energy cost?? What temperature is your thermostat set to 12 degrees?

super hot shabs :sunglasses:

That is the amount of *excess* power that has been diverted to hot water tank / IR heaters.
It doesn't include the savings on my electric bill which are in addition to this.
I highly recommend this box or similar ones like iBoost if you have solar PV.

Not sure I get this you say you have cut your electric bill by 45% yet your annual saving id £ 109?????????????

I have to disagree with this. I too have 4kW solar PV system. I also have an immersun. The immersun diverts excess solar energy into a hot water tank, then into several infra red heaters dotted about the house.

It has cut my electricity bills down by 45% compared to when I did not have solar.
Almost every day I have a tank of free hot water. Even in January, I managed to heat my house at least partially with excess solar power. Of course there are days when the sun doesn't shine and we go back to using gas. But to say you can't heat your house with solar isn't right... well... at least not if you have a diverter box like the immersun yes it's not going to do it at night, and yes if the sun doesn't shine it won't. But I can heat my home most of the time for free and use very little gas now.

In summer, I can cool my house for free too.

Since installing the immersun last year, it has diverted over £100 into the hot water tank and infra red heaters. I can also boil my vacuum kettle first thing in the morning totally free and have 2 litres of boiling hot water for 3 hours. I also run a portable oil radiator in my conservatory that is also fed from the diverter box so after having a tank of 200L of hot water, and heating the house to 20 degrees with infra red... any left over heats up my conservatory in winter.

It is quite possible to heat your home on solar PV if you do it right. If not 100% heat your home, it will certainly reduce the amount of gas the CH has to burn.

Just paid £32 for a heater last week when my boiler broke down. Meh lol

ordered 2. delivery is £3.95 per order. heated (mandatory pun)

Cheers OP. Heat from me (not from this) :wink:

Thanks for this. Folks had been complaining about their rads and didnt want to use storage heaters. Reserved two for my dad to pick up from Hamilton. There were 11 at that count but the assistant did say people had been calling about them to reserve. Cheers :smiley:

If by thermal you mean flat blade receptors in a tube, then you don't need sun to get heat, none sunny days can heat the water for washing up or taking a shower without the need for cold to be added, but, if installed, the electric water heater will kick in at about 50C or just above. Can't remember the exact temp.

Why is it that whenever people say heating by gas is cheaper, they always forget the standing charges and additional maintenance costs of a gas boiler? Ok, in a rented property you don't have the maintenance to worry about, and I would agree that chances are a modern combi boiler would be cheaper to run than most electric options even with standing charges. But there is so much more to consider than just unit cost when it comes to heating.

Proof in the bills: I moved from a two bed mid-terrace with gas central heating, full double glazed windows and doors and insulated cavity walls, to a larger three bed mid-terrace with no gas supply and 30 year old storage heaters, half single glazed (the living room and two bedrooms single glazed, kitchen and other bedroom double), and my fuel bill went DOWN by £8 per month, and that isn't just the estimates, that is running like that for 12 months and seeing I was still over-paying a little. Yes that is with an economy 7 tariff and having the washing machine run overnight too as a result of cheaper electric, so that will also skew my example a little, but then with economy 7, the daytime electric unit cost is higher than a normal single price electric.

I am not saying electric is cheaper either, it is just there is so much more to consider. If I was renting, my ideal would be a good modern gas combi boiler for heating and hot water, ideally with smart controls (in an ideal world), but be fine without. Owning, my ideal would be to be all electric with solar panels, a thermal store for hot water and if we are talking real ideal, ground source heat as well (but I realise the setup cost would be silly high). Realistically, it depends what was in the house to start with and what it would take to modernise down each route, outlay, maintenance and running.

In terms of this product however, we are not talking about kitting out a whole house anyway so the whole gas vs electric argument needs to be taken with a pinch of salt, it is only valid if you are planning to put one in a house already kitted with gas heating to use in a room with a radiator already and then I wonder what person is looking at that scenario in the first place? It seems a good buy to me for rooms that wouldn't be heated all the time, a bedroom would only want heating a few hours a day, conservatory even less. I wouldn't recommend going for something like this in a living room.

Have 2 of these on my yacht. Takes about 12 hours to heat her up to +20C in winter if not using diesel heater. A 50KW heater could do that job in an hour. Or a very small nuke - instantly.

Brill when away in my caravan (tourer) costs me diddly **** :-) :-)

Dunnkow, never opened it!

people arguing over heaters <3

​Turning-up the TRV would only be any use if the CH was on to begin with. Also assumes TRVs are actually fitted and working properly, too.

So, if you live in a house with TRVs on every rad and have multi-zone heating, etc, then it might be practical and efficient to heat a single room in the house for a few hours using a whole house heating system. However, for most people, using a small electric heater will be far more effective and probably cost the equivalent (if not cheaper) than using the CH.

Does your fuel often fight a duel.

I used to set mine at 21C and that was more than warm for me but OK for the wife, so I can see that 19C is perfectly OK.

[quote=Dazza34]I have a coin meter at my flat and normally use about a pound a day for electricity. When I turn this thing on it easily uses a pound every 3 hours if not more[/quot


At the moment coin meters use the highest priced tariff in the different tariff menu.

:disappointed::laughing:

All depends on the energy deal our last fixed one that has just ended was only paying £35 month all year round for duel fuel and even got a bit of credit back at the end when we switched

Cold! I got one last year for £4.97!