I tried searching but could not find an existing deal, so apologies if someone else has already beat me to it!
I know this is not really a deal as such but for me its a much better way of affording Apple products without having to pay a huge amount in one go.
There's a couple of options for the finance either you can go through PayPal Credit (although I have heard bad things about credit with PayPal) or through Barclays which seems the best bet in my opinion. I used them when i got my new iPhone 6 a couple of years ago and didn't have any problems at all.
Representative Example:
£699 Loan Amount
Cash Price £699
Duration of Agreement 12 months
Representative APR 0% APR
Rate of Interest 0% p.a
12 Monthly payments of £58.25
Total Amount Payable £699
Credit subject to status
Ends 14th March 2017
Just thought I would share as anyone looking for any Apple products its a more affordable way to shop.
I am not a Apple fan boy by any means, and I know this is probably going to get plenty of cold votes as well, but hopefully this will be of use to some people :smiley:
Cheers
Andrew
Top comments
JoolsG4
1 Mar 1798#6
Don't buy any then - it's not obligatory.
(And it's a bit foolish to read posts labelled clearly about the very Apple stuff you hate isn't it?)
jimx26
1 Mar 1740#13
Why look at this deal then?
thenormalone
1 Mar 1738#16
Just because you can't afford their stuff, no need to hate.
ST3123
1 Mar 1730#3
Good job they offer this as one would need finance to afford anything from Apple! :stuck_out_tongue:
Don't give them your money, financed or not, remember they were one of the first to up their prices after Brexit despite needing it the least, since they were hardly competitively priced to begin with....
That aside, I have no problem with the deal itself if it helps out people who were going to buy Apple anyway, just don't get how they can justify their pricing.
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Henlans
1 Mar 17#1
This is with Barclays 0% and not paypal.. :smiley:
AndyUK84 to Henlans
1 Mar 172#2
When you go through to the checkout and payment screen there is the option to pay with Paypal 0% credit as well :smiley:
Or at least there was when I checked before posting the deal!
ST3123
1 Mar 1730#3
Good job they offer this as one would need finance to afford anything from Apple! :stuck_out_tongue:
Don't give them your money, financed or not, remember they were one of the first to up their prices after Brexit despite needing it the least, since they were hardly competitively priced to begin with....
That aside, I have no problem with the deal itself if it helps out people who were going to buy Apple anyway, just don't get how they can justify their pricing.
tonydix21
1 Mar 1723#4
Thanks for posting, wether you like Apple or not it's another way of saving money which is what this site is about. I dislike android because it's rubbish but you'd never get me dissing it on here!
chrisbenwalker to tonydix21
1 Mar 171#22
You just did! Or did I just feed the troll :confused:
lidds to tonydix21
1 Mar 173#28
How is it another way of saving money if you end up paying exactly the RSP?
NomiKaay to tonydix21
2 Mar 17#66
I challenge your claim that 'it's another way of available saving money'. It's more in the category of managing your finances better.
iamdamien to tonydix21
2 Mar 17#130
Well you just have you dope by saying it's rubbish.
WolverhamptonDealDon
1 Mar 171#5
With PayPal 0% credit you get 3 months 0% if you spend more than £150 in 1 transaction
JoolsG4
1 Mar 1798#6
Don't buy any then - it's not obligatory.
(And it's a bit foolish to read posts labelled clearly about the very Apple stuff you hate isn't it?)
drtongue
1 Mar 171#7
Paypal OMG they are so bad it's unreal. Have you ever tried ringing them when there is a problemon, on their premium rate line I think they have shares in.
ToxicNeo to drtongue
1 Mar 172#8
I'll admit I've had a bad experience with PayPal credit but a 5 minute phone call to their freephone number sorted it out
cantonbean
1 Mar 172#9
Go with Barclays or set up a separate PayPal account. I hated that they make your default payment method PayPal credit and you can't change it! I bought my iPhone like this ages ago. Accidentally paid for something else and they add the interest onto the total amount so even if you pay off the interest based item gets paid last. I cleared it in 3 months and swore never again use it on my main PayPal account!
tehriddler to cantonbean
1 Mar 17#18
Same thing happened to me. eBay one-click didn't let me choose a card on PayPal and I ended up using PayPal credit to pay for my purchases.
benlondon to cantonbean
2 Mar 17#64
the is not true, you can easily change your default payment method in your PayPal account
sparklehedgehog
1 Mar 177#10
so the new iPads will be after the 14th march then for definite :disappointed:
K1LLER_HORNET
1 Mar 173#11
You're much better off applying for a long 0% interest credit card if possible.
Otherwise I suppose this is decent.
Please don't use Paypal. Not even under £100. They dont tell you about this fraud so are they trustworthy?
ezzer72
1 Mar 177#15
Haha, genius.
thenormalone
1 Mar 1738#16
Just because you can't afford their stuff, no need to hate.
wildswan
1 Mar 17#17
any codes or routes to getting discount as in previous years?
deany76
1 Mar 171#19
If anyone is looking at a rMBP 2016 the 2015 is available, just buried at the very bottom of the MBP apple page.
The 2015 is one heck of a machine.
CouldntThinkOfAUsername to deany76
1 Mar 172#21
Not worth it, the 2016 is much better, I returned mine and got the 2016 model. It's worth the extra price, once you hear the new MBP speakers and feel its build quality, you cant use any other laptop for media without being disgusted.
rodman
1 Mar 172#20
It means new Apple product will be available after that date!
tinca
1 Mar 1710#23
Minimum spend £399 so that's an Apple carrier bag then :man:
sb170 to tinca
2 Mar 171#67
No don't be silly, that would be another £5 because it's an apple bag and they invented it.
NeilS
1 Mar 17#24
If they hadn't seriously bumped all the prices up last month then this kind of offer wouldn't be needed.
CouldntThinkOfAUsername
1 Mar 173#25
People who hate Apple for the sake of it are losers, usually have no software or computer engineering knowledge. They'll also usually buy Apple clones at lower prices and adamant their cheaper trash is better.
deany76
1 Mar 17#26
To be fair speaker quality does not really interest me the 2015 speakers being more than adequate for 'normal' use.
Build quality of 2015 is exceptional, as no doubt 2016 is.
Tequila
1 Mar 17#27
great.
heat added.
cabstar
1 Mar 171#29
Or buy from very for the same price as Apple and then when they have a 20% apple cash back event and buy now pay 12 months later.
deany76 to cabstar
1 Mar 17#33
iOS and macOS is fantastic, but not for everyone.
"Very returns-"
• 6.2 All products are sold on the basis that they are for personal, domestic use only.
... so no good for a business purchase.
Yes you have the "Consumer Rights Act 2015" and the The Consumer Contracts (formerly Distance Selling).
But clearly there may / will be "quibble" with Very returns.
AVOID
mnneast to cabstar
1 Mar 171#37
10% on my account for laptops ! Do u have a voucher for 20% apple products
neiiilers
1 Mar 17#30
Because some people don't like blowing £4k in 1 go.
Heat added!
xeroc
1 Mar 171#31
Because I can keep the money I would otherwise pay in an interest-earning bank account, and make the repayments each month. So, I in essence 'profit' from my purchase. It's known as Stoozing.
MazingerZ
1 Mar 173#32
Yikes, no wonder I see poor people with the latest Apple products...
Sp0oner
1 Mar 172#34
Apple lost my custom after the rip off 20% price rise.
slannmage to Sp0oner
1 Mar 179#36
That's everyone, the Surface prices went up, the Sonos prices went up, I've been eyeing up some TVs and they went up too.
Shouldn't have voted out of the EU.
slannmage
1 Mar 17#35
I love my iMac and MacBook 12, but there are no new ones yet... this offer will come again so I'll wait.
jazzy1
1 Mar 178#38
Hahaha getting a mobile phone on credit. What has the world come to. If you can't afford a phone don't get it on credit. Save up for it. If you think spending £600 odd on a phone upfront is too much buy a cheaper one or save up enough till you can buy it without questioning the up front cost. Bloody joke
deany76 to jazzy1
1 Mar 171#45
The majority of mobile phone users in the UK still have contracts which require a credit check, so effectively you are buying the handset but the phone is subsidised by the airtime provider.
I tend to go sim only at the moment (£10.00 a month unlimitted 10GB data EE) and may buy the 10th anniversary iPhone outright in Sept and sell Sept 2019 for approx £300 to £350 as I 'baby' my iPhones and expect a good resale value.
Any way you look at it, you are buying on credit, as the zero % interest spent on this deal you could put the money you'd use, away on deposit.
batfinkus to jazzy1
2 Mar 17#48
Why not? I bought my last iPhone on 0% credit,I had saved up the money to buy it but decided leaving it sitting in my savings account earning me money was a better use for it,I'm certainly not losing anything by going 0% loans!
DUNOEboutTENG to jazzy1
2 Mar 172#116
Ridiculous post when the norm amongst many is to get a mobile phone contract out, and guess what - thats financing the phone.
Why dont people save up for a house instead of getting a mortgage, or waiting instead of taking out finance for car?
Credit is not bad tool, its the people who fail to use it properly who are the problem. Get a grip.
amour3k
1 Mar 17#39
I think that solely when your an existing new VERY customer?, or whatever ..... (unless I'm mistaken?)
amour3k
1 Mar 171#40
The amount those Apple Products $cost$, you need every penny you can get ...
m.ad
1 Mar 17#41
Was considering an iPhone SE for the camera, 64GB for £35 a month. Tempting...
tonydix21
1 Mar 171#42
Really? ...in round figures 1- item say £1000 why part with it in one go , keep in your account (say Santander 123 at 1.5% interest) 2- it will earn you something... not a lot! Maybe a 0% car is a bigger example...add it up on your Samsung galaxy if the battery hasn't blown up :wink:
frozencake
1 Mar 172#43
I just had a look, if you already have a big credit limit with Very like myself then yeah it's probably better to go with Very because of the 10% off (til tomorrow) to avoid opening up another short term finance and affecting your credit score
shahidali47
1 Mar 173#44
I can afford it I just don't like being ripped off and being an isheep.
bigmaz to shahidali47
2 Mar 171#102
You choose to be an android sheep instead.... Very strange breed you android fan boys... Jumping on the Apple hater band wagon
Saturn
1 Mar 17#46
Is anyone aware of a better option than John Lewis for a iPhone 6s 32gb at £499? Not interested in 'Very' account or a random online seller for the sake of a few pounds against the 2 year John Lewis warranty. Any good, reliable, and cheaper options would be welcome.
Finally, does anyone think this move by Apple will lead to any new offers from other mainstream retailers in the next week or so?
deany76 to Saturn
2 Mar 17#47
JLP is a good option.
It depends how much you need a phone.
My iPhone 6 is 2 1/2 years old and had a new battery replacement last Sept. I'm holding out for the 10th anniversary iPhone.
Which model do you have, and is it in need of replacing sooner rather than later?
xeroc
2 Mar 17#49
Out of interest did you go for the touch bar or non-TB version? And...if you don't mind, why? I'm currently debating this at present!
rdbradshaw
2 Mar 17#50
Surprised no one has mentioned 4% cashback through quidco albeit refurb products only .
deany76
2 Mar 17#51
To 'chip in' there are on going issues with the new 2016 rMBP.
Some folks aren't experiencing any issues many are, in my opinion apple need to address all issues as these machines are not inexpensive.
Also you have to ask what you need from the MacBook Pro and your max budget.
TheGuardian
2 Mar 172#52
:smile: obviously you can't either. that's why you're reading this offer. :smile:
whelan189
2 Mar 17#53
wonder if people will first realise iphones are behind on technology and not get giddy excited when iphone bring something out 5 years later (wireless charging probally) and also boycott them to stand in protest again the 20% rise they put in for brexit, so not acceptable, so soon
asiot to whelan189
2 Mar 17#80
No this year it will be fast charging all the iPhone users will think its amazing and innovative how they will be able to now fully charge their iPhone in under an hour rather than half a day when most flagship phones have had this feature for years.. Rumour is also that this year iphones will finally get a decent screen making the jump to OLED from the lousy 326 ppi screens they have had since the iPhone 4.. To be fair though as bad as apples phones are in comparison to flag ship competitors the ipads for me are still ahead of android tablets just because of the greater dedicated ipad to android tablet apps
neiiilers
2 Mar 171#54
**** comeback.
unhappybunny
2 Mar 17#55
Is there anyway I can trade in my iPhone 6, according to Apple it's worth about £185, then use that to bring to cost of a new iPhone 7 to like £400, then spread that interest free over 12 months with this offer ?
The.Bear
2 Mar 171#56
I can see why, it looks awful, cheap and nasty build, poor quality, shocking customer support, software that crashes every day, subject to 1000's malware, trojan and many other nasty little security issues, etc. etc.
Oh and a Mac runs windows directly or as a virtual machine - that's really bad isn't it.
As for cost - it is expensive, perhaps over priced, but you'll get back half of the original buy price after 3 years of use as long as it's looked after.
This is exactly why I hate them too.
Before you gob off think!
Great post OP, makes it reasonably affordable to everyone.
dudwood_fudwood
2 Mar 171#57
You hate it so much you just can't help but click on deals that are Apple related and leave a comment. That speaks volumes really. I bet you would love a Mac but just can't afford it. So you bought a PC instead and now to justify your purchase to yourself you need to diss Apple products to reinforce the idea that you made the right choice. It's like the whole iPhone/Android debate.
Just like what you like and shut up about it. Your choice of consumer brands does not make you any better than anyone else.
rjm67
2 Mar 17#58
The Apple iPhone upgrade programme might be a better option for some. Longer interest free option.
Also, having credit isn't actually a bad thing, as long as you don't over extend yourself. Makes getting credit easier if you really need it because you can show that you are capable of repaying it.
Elbandito
2 Mar 17#59
I have the 2016 base model (no touch bar) and previously for like 3 years I had a retina model (late 2013) both similarly specced with 8gb ram/256 ssd. Some things like speakers, screen, SSD speed, touchpad, form factor have been improved on the new one, but imo battery, keyboard and no magsafe are a step backwards. I have gotten used to it so will keep on using it (especially that I bought a sealed one off eBay for 1040 delivered and a student applecare for 114), so can't really complain, I just feel it is not as polished as it should be and I simply can't agree with some design choices.
P.s. I'm not mentioning the fact that there are only usb-c ports on the device, it is annoying, but I can definitely see it being the future, and it's cool I can charge my Nexus 6p and laptop using the same charger :smiley:
John.Mason
2 Mar 17#60
Why are you looking at this deal then?
rdbradshaw
2 Mar 172#61
It's ok because out there you can have instead oranges , bananas , pears and other tasty fruits to get to your 5 a day :wink:
margers
2 Mar 17#62
It will be a good suggestion or experience from this for me!!
Bunnster
2 Mar 17#63
half our house Apple half Android. who cares. posts should be voted on the actual deal. I don't use any Apple products. Android. still voted hot. if you are buying Apple this is a hot deal.
thanks to OP :smile:
McHotpoon to Bunnster
2 Mar 17#93
Agreed, I'm using a G4 plus the Mrs & Daughter are Apple fan girls. We all know Apple charges a price premium and the people who make the stuff are treated as slaves but what I come on hot deals for is a deal! We got our daughter an iPad mini 4 Christmas from Staples saving £100 over the next cheapest price thanks to hot deals. This is a deal if you going to buy some fruity stuff. Hot, hot, hot. Thanks for posting op!
hero9989
2 Mar 17#65
Hopefully this is around when the new iPhones are announced later this year - Would much rather get a phone straight from apple and a sim only deal than both from the carrier. 0% finance is perfect.
dreri
2 Mar 17#68
Aww, really? I love all apple stuff. Apple juice, apple pie, apple strudel, apple jam, apple cider, ... :wink:
curtis2500
2 Mar 17#69
Anyone know if you can do this finance option through their certified refurbished section?
sb170 to curtis2500
2 Mar 171#70
Blimey, they even make the faulty ones sound like a premium product.
BillyCotton
2 Mar 172#71
They're after sales service is second to none.
Longevity of their products.
Superior macOS operating system.
The overall polish of their products (I have never come across a trackpad as good as what's on their laptops).
Tissie
2 Mar 17#72
Are you also including in that your new purchase for £1000 has devalued, so if you pay off over 12 month keep that money and let's say earn £20 in interest on your 123 account yet lose £60 on said product? My personal belief is the tech hardware is in no way a good idea for saying it's an investment, it devalues too quick, if you make money off that tech by using it then obviously it is. I don't care what the hype or spin is, you have not earned money, though to be fair if you get to use the latest tech and sell it at a small loss then it's still alright,
ThugBasher
2 Mar 17#73
Don't forget Defence Discount service, you can still apply it to this offer, slightly more interested now :wink:
Jonno42
2 Mar 17#74
what about apple pie?
walsall123
2 Mar 17#75
Hyper inflated prices made in China and they think they are very special!
deany76
2 Mar 17#76
• Some consider apple refurbs to be better than 'factory fresh' as the item undergoes more stringent quality control.
• it is impossible to tell an apple refurb from 'factory fresh' apart from the box colour.
• apple give a full 12 months warranty on refurbs and allow apple care to be taken out on refurbs to back up their 100% confidence in the items quality.
captainbeaky
2 Mar 17#77
Good value bag - designed in California. However if you need more storage they usually charge £100.
walsall123
2 Mar 172#78
You say after sales is second to none, do not think so. Birmingham Apple you have to get an appointment for service, then to get there you still have to wait 40 minutes, more interested in sales than aftersales, I really got **** o**. The staff are like headless chickens. I was there for over 2 hours failed to honour Apple care product. Just got gibberish nonsense.
Emailed CEO who was another useless person, eventually my bank put a chargeback for a faulty product. Never again these bigheaded narcissist idiots deserve a happy slapping.
macamask
2 Mar 171#79
said every pauper ever :smiley:
punji
2 Mar 17#81
If thought they call back? or am I getting confused with Amazon
ScarboroughKID
2 Mar 17#82
Shame it's consumer store only and not education, but it's been a while since this has been on.
Corasli
2 Mar 172#83
My 6 months old Macbook died twice since November, my 4 months old iPhone died last week. Both devices in new condition with not even a scratch on them. In total they had my Macbook for 4 weeks and my iPhone for three days. This involved 4x30 mile trips, around 5 hours of waiting in Apple store and several phone calls to apple
They are not even apologetic, I thought I was paying the premium for their service but their service is like any other company now, it is not what it used to be
I have now ordered a galaxy S7 edge and a surface tablet, no more apple's for me.
I'm writing this here to warn those who think they are paying the premium for quality and service, it is none existent.
boomish to Corasli
2 Mar 17#111
What BS, what service do you expect from Samsung after your 1 year is up? I took a 4 year old Macbook Pro recently that had a motherboard problem, turned out to be an Intel Graphics chip fault (PC laptops with same chips also affected BTW) as the machine was no longer being serviced (parts etc) they gave me an equivalent brand new Macbook ! Name me one company that would do this..Apple service isn't perfect but as someone who deals with a lot of computers they have the best support by far, period!
bigmaz to Corasli
2 Mar 172#113
Haha, BS!!
m5rcc
2 Mar 17#84
The bigger problem with Apple is that they are the modern day leaders in planned obsolescence.
Petetobin
2 Mar 17#85
Speaking as a married Fanboy, planned obsolescence is a great thing.
barnehurst
2 Mar 17#86
Or you could just boycott their overpriced, overhyped tat..
J_D
2 Mar 17#87
The irony of writing this in a thread that is literally all about people not being able to afford apple stuff X):laughing:
tonydix21
2 Mar 17#88
What item doesn't devalue the moment you purchase it lol The fact is back to the post it's a still a deal to someone whatever there financial situation. You can buy something without interest.
RCUK
2 Mar 17#89
Wonder if i can get this with my student discount through NUS Extra?
My 2011 macbook is starting to die a little now, so was wanting to upgrade anyway.
m5rcc
2 Mar 17#90
If you have no problem buying a product that fails before it should in order for you to upgrade to the latest "upgraded" version, then great. Others aren't so naive.
m5rcc
2 Mar 17#91
Vintage cars? Vintage watches? Houses if you want to consider that an "item"...
In fairness, one would be better off buying anything like this via a credit card: one can pay it at 0% for a longer term and get Section 75 protection for it should it fail (which one would need given it's an Apple).
RCUK
2 Mar 17#92
Wow.. cheapest macbook with NUS discount is now £1124!!
Thats insane. Im sure last yr without discount it was sub £1k.
darkwarrior2015 to RCUK
2 Mar 17#125
expect more this year across the board once retailers restocks with new input prices.
scrotesmd
2 Mar 17#94
yeah they still bumped their prices recently with all the brexit stuff.
Kebabselector to scrotesmd
2 Mar 171#119
Price is based on the exchange rate and you may have noticed the pound isn't what it used to be.
All imported stuff will cost more, that's the price of 'freedom'
AdaamP
2 Mar 17#95
Offer ends March 14th & rumours are that new Ipad ranges will be out end of march. Concidence?
brilly
2 Mar 171#96
this is basically a nondeal
if you require this to afford an apple device then save your money and sort your priorities
if you have the cash then the deal is surely just the interest that the cash would have gathered in your account which is not worth much at all
not knocking apple just the 'deal' :wink:
rjm67 to brilly
2 Mar 17#142
I respectfully disagree. :-) I've never had any problems (or difficulty) with paying for items by this method. I'm just a terrible saver of cash. I save through investments.
itswolfy
2 Mar 17#97
i do not need anything.. but i would so buy something just because of 0%... thats not good lol
scrotesmd
2 Mar 173#98
people don't hate apple because they can't afford it, people hate apple because they see through the bs and realise its stupidly over priced.
johnwillowlfc
2 Mar 17#99
This is a finance agreement, finance agreements are covered by Section 75a, and the link you provided only applies if you use a credit card to pay through PayPal
DUNOEboutTENG
2 Mar 171#100
Shame they dont allow a deposit to go down to reduce the monthly cost
PhilK
2 Mar 17#101
Good deal. Cheers
bigmaz
2 Mar 171#103
If you compare a plastic phone to an iPhone, yeah, a massive price difference, but if you compare like for like, then you will see you are talking BS.... What happens if you have an issue with your cheap plastic phone shipped from China you waited 2 months for? Good luck with getting any after sales support.... That does not come cheap... Just one factor on why Apple costs more...
stephensims
2 Mar 17#104
well don't buy it then
chironchiron
2 Mar 17#105
Would have got this if it was Xmas :-(
boomish
2 Mar 172#106
ZZZZZzzzzz come to an Apple thread to post how you dislike Apple prices..get over it & move on, jealousy and hatred does no one any good. As an IT admin I work with all kinds of computers, in general Apple computers way out last any other, it's a simply a case of you get what you pay for..
monkey1999
2 Mar 171#107
Apple iPhone 7 same price as launch samsung s7 and launch pixel phone ? Mac books same price as surface tablets ! Apple stuff just holds price that's all
bigmaz
2 Mar 172#108
And ontop of that, the Apple support you get. So it's actually better value, but ONLY if you compare like for like as you say. These Apple haters expect them to make an iPhone at the same price as these cheap plastic phones, lol!
boomish
2 Mar 17#109
The irony is your an Apple hater posting in an Apple thread, if you don't like em don't read the POST! obviously someone who's never owned one Apple product! Lots of stuff is overpriced but it it works better than anything else then people buy it. I do find it bizarre the hate come from 99% of people that have never used a Mac or owned an iPhone.
habz786
2 Mar 17#110
Can i pay off the lump sum if i choose to?
BananaMannn
2 Mar 17#112
I'm assuming you had applecare otherwise there is no way they would give you a new one.
You can get this sort of service with John Lewis as well.
CoeK
2 Mar 172#114
A house, shares, gold, copper, silver, art, a business, some classic cars, antiques, land, lego, the list goes on.
I get your point I just like to be pedantic.
Why does every apple/microsoft thread turn into a who likes what thread?
All this technology and the human race is still picking a tribe, only difference is now its verbal fights on the internet instead of clubs and spears in a field.
I like the look of the new MBP, i like that they went all USB C too. I don't own any apple products at the moment. Use a surface pro 4 when i need to move around and a PC in the house because i like to play games.
Maybe I'm just too poor.
ST3123
2 Mar 17#115
Not jealous of Apple products, they do not appeal to me personally but are well made for sure. The thing is IMHO you DONT get what you pay for with Apple, you get less. Sure the build quality, design and even usability are generally very good and for many that alone justifies it, fair enough, but in terms of specification and raw performance, which more advanced users are interested in, they lag behind.
Examples, Apple phones continued to use dual core CPUs long after competitors were on quad core and above, they typically have less RAM (2GB vs 3 to 4GB) and their computers rarely have dedicated graphics and if they do they are never anywhere near what you can get on the equivalent PC system. Yes not everyone needs or cares about those things but for those that do, Apple is poor value...
Trevisparky
2 Mar 17#117
I got slated when
I posted this deal before. It was great for us got our daughter the latest iPad for xmas which at the time we didn't have the lump sum to pay.
bigmaz to Trevisparky
2 Mar 171#118
Cos the site is full of Apple haters it looks like, haha!! Sad folk they are
darkwarrior2014
2 Mar 17#120
Did anyone mention it was an investment? This was a choice between paying upfront or taking 0% finance
captain_cab
2 Mar 17#121
£399 minimim spend lol. Heat for wasting money
furbix
2 Mar 17#122
Does it work with the education discount?
Any ideas when the next MacBook upgrade is going to be?
Marek27
2 Mar 17#123
Good deal, heat added, but no - thank you. Not month or two before new iPad and 6 months before 10th anniversary iPhone edition :smiley:
FocusST
2 Mar 17#124
The clever people are the ones that use interest free credit. :wink:
Granted it's not always used the proper way if people that genuinely can't afford stuff use it, but if spending £3k on Apple products why on earth would you use cash when an interest free option is available which would allow you to keep your £3k in a (relatively) decent interest rated account/investment? That £3k could earn you at £1/2/500 depending on what you do with it over the year effectively knocking off that amount from the original cost.
Don't be too quick to jump to old fashioned conclusions, it's always wise to use interest free and keep the cash earning interest, any decent economist would tell you that.
Or is there a stigma attached that our silly society has created that stops people doing it? :smirk:
winchman
2 Mar 17#126
http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/credit-cards/best-0-credit-cards
Get a 0% spending credit card, you then get 2 years or more of 0%, which is a typical time scale of phone contracts anyway. Can also use it to buy an Apple laptop. They are silly prices, but hold more value second hand, so this brings down actual amount in real terms.
frozencake
2 Mar 17#127
Nah I tried last night, full price only for me
kiish
2 Mar 172#128
It's always great to see people absolutely fuming over apple posts. If it's out of your budget then don't buy it or bother commenting without actually using the devices.
I just upgraded my 4 year old MacBook and sold it for over 500 which still works and is super fast still & extremely reliable. I'm not sure anything else upholds its value like apple products. They just work and integrate flawlessly between iOS/Mac devices.
Oh and after 4 years on Mac I tried out a Alienware and Gigabyte laptop before getting a 2016 MacBook Pro. Guess what? Both those had issues especially Alienware with terrible light bleeding/overheating and "awesome" Indian tech support.
CoeK to kiish
2 Mar 17#129
You tried alienware then bought a macbook pro? That's like trying a fridge then buying a washing machine.
iamdamien to kiish
2 Mar 17#134
Whilst Apple products are usually well made and OSX is reasonably different in terms of usage to Windows, the cost is extortionate.
I have a Macbook Air which I have all but stopped using, use Macs at work and I wouldn't recommend them to an average Joe. The cost is too high for regular usage scenarios.
Even then, if you are a creative type, then unless you're using Final Cut Pro heavily (and if you are then why?) then a Mac is no better than any similar spec PC you can buy for less than half the price.
Also without dedicated graphics in most units you can't even play anything more demanding than point and click games or older AAA titles.
Simply 'being able to afford' Mac is not justification for owning one or multiple.
RedRain
2 Mar 17#131
apple should just change their logo to £-$-€-¥-
bigmaz to RedRain
2 Mar 17#132
Original.... Yawn....
frozencake
2 Mar 17#133
This thread is like a merry-go-round of pure Apple haters.. don't like Apple, don't buy their products it's simple. Stop ruining it for the rest of us!
ashman33
2 Mar 17#135
Ready for the iPhone 8 pricing ? £650 base price? Higher?
bigmaz to ashman33
2 Mar 17#137
How did the Samsung S7 compare to the iPhone 7 price on release date?
tonydix21
2 Mar 17#136
It's called irony lol Dermot :smiley:
bigmaz
2 Mar 17#138
Apple are def the way to go for regular useage and to the average Joe. Much more user friendly, and much more durable. Also Good luck trying to get any money for second hand, well used plastic windows laptop.
CoeK
2 Mar 17#139
It was cheaper.
bigmaz
2 Mar 17#140
How much cheaper?
CoeK
2 Mar 17#141
£30
bigmaz
2 Mar 17#143
Hahaha!!! Well, thats killed that argument, next.....
Syst3mzero
2 Mar 171#144
forget apples, haven't you seen the deal on lemons at Morrisons? :stuck_out_tongue:
CoeK
2 Mar 17#145
Macs do hold their resale value pretty well that is very true. But whether or not that matters really depends on what you need in a laptop.
I still have a 6 year old laptop that cost me £600 working fine with dedicate graphics, intel processor, i added an SSD of course. How much would the equivalent mac book cost and how much would it drop in price in 6 years?
If it cost £1k and is worth £300 then i would have lost out since i can't lose more than the £600 my old laptop cost.
CoeK
2 Mar 17#146
What argument? You asked a question and got an answer.
CoeK
2 Mar 17#147
Also that was on the edge version not the more basic version against the cheapest iphone.
bigmaz
2 Mar 17#148
Laughing at the argument of the iPhone being so expensive, but £30 is nothing, not laughing at your reply :wink:
CoeK
2 Mar 17#149
The actual difference between the cheapest s7 and the cheapest iphone 7 was £100.
Either way I think both phones are fairly expensive and probably going to be even more this year.
croz123
2 Mar 17#150
Thanks was on the fence about getting a macbook. If this can be coupled with a student discount I will be purchasing a macbook pro 2015 (I require a better battery life and more ports)
bigmaz
2 Mar 17#151
Still not a massive difference considering the huge prices of mobile phones, which I totally agree, crazy!! But, people just look at the price, they do not think of anything else, e.g. the after sales service. If you are buying a cheap deal on the net, then compared to Apple support, it's pretty much non existent.
Incognitoso
2 Mar 17#152
Apple Product has been high price for good quality + service etc + Software
Now this game is change - on the market you have some many devices with same quality materials or better
Samsung got new tablet Galaxy Tab S3 and I will have it - Some will say o it is not Ipad Pro ? But I do not see anymore why Ipad is Better
it was time when IOS was better than android , but this game is lost for Apple
Android now have much more options and it is cheaper Do not see why you want IOS with locked functions
Try to copy movie to Ipad need to use Itunes Where on Android just connect and copy
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xeroc to Incognitoso
2 Mar 17#153
Maybe that was true 5 years ago. It isn't true anymore.
I don't even need to connect my iPad to transfer a movie to it; I can just AirDrop it directly from my Mac wirelessly and choose the app I want to open it in. Easy!
iamdamien
2 Mar 17#154
What are you talking about? If that were the case, then we'd see more people using Macs.
As bad as vegans Apple fan boys.
bigmaz
2 Mar 17#155
Plenty people use Mac's for this exact reason.... What statement are you questioning? And if all your argument is based on is the fact YOU personally don't see a lot of people using Mac's, then I question anything you have to say on the subject... Android fan boys like you just jump on a band wagon through stuff you hear instead of actually looking into it for yourself. I am not an "Apple Fan Boy", I own one Apple product....
grant867
2 Mar 17#156
Anyone know if I can use this with student discount?
cantonbean
2 Mar 17#157
No you can't. You used to be able to but it will always default to paypal credit or debit card. I have tried it and looked into it and even phoned them and they say no way now. Obvious really as they want you to use their services or debit card over credit card (risk factor plus more risk of you claiming on it which you can't do with the other two for an unsatisfactory item) You can select which method you want to use if the website is ok (sometimes an issue with mobile sites) but not change the default like you used to be able to.
CoeK
2 Mar 171#158
He might be referring to market share.
m5rcc
2 Mar 17#159
Miele
CoeK
2 Mar 17#160
It's a 20% increase, thats not nothing.
I have never actually needed tech support for any phone, including the iphones i've had. Not had an iphone since the 4s though so maybe things have changed.
SackCity
2 Mar 171#161
Hating something doesn't mean you can't afford it, don't make assumptions shahidali47 because you just made an ass of yourself.
bigmaz
2 Mar 17#162
Maybe you have not, but many other people have, wether it be iPhone, Samsung etc.
bigmaz
2 Mar 17#163
Agreed, but it's a better reasoning than why most Apple haters hate Apple, as in they don't know why, other than they see a price being higher. Android fan boys all make asses of themselves all the time...
iamdamien
2 Mar 17#164
More user-friendly? Define.
Android fan boy? Please enlighten me as to where this was made clear? I never mentioned mobile phones.
You of course have contradicted yourself by not backing up any of your claims about usability, price to value ratio.
I'm saying you're full of shiiit3 mate. So bore off.
cantonbean
2 Mar 17#165
Why does ever thread of android/iOS or Windows/Mac/Linux have to end up like this! I own various of each and they each have good and bad points, making them better for different usages and users! Brief example:- Just had my Mibook Air. Hardware wise kills Macbook Air for six hundred. However, I have just had to spend two days getting it sorted beause windows anniversary update kept failing (ended up downloading new education ISO including the update). I now have a dual boot with CentOS and just need to work out how to get dual GPU to work (redhat quite difficult to dual boot on a mac). By contrast I turn on my macbook air and it is ready, updates are simple and iregular and the OS has much better intergration with other apple products. Neither is better..both have advatages and weaknesses...sometimes the advatage is also a weakness....just buy what is right for you and vote a deal on it's own merit not on your bias.
eslick to cantonbean
2 Mar 172#166
you should see the Heinz beans versus Branston threads they would blow your mind, seriously wish it would stop, hardly ever happens on other threads but technology threads brings out the very worst in some of the sites users :disappointed:
royals to cantonbean
2 Mar 171#192
Exactly.
Iphones/Ipads/Macs
Cons
1) Very expensive
2) Lower spec than PC/phone/tablet equivalent eg the samsung edge 7 has a bigger screen than the iphone 7 plus but its smaller than the iphone 7. Also, its a much higher spec phone - screen, processor, features. Apples tablets are better though
3) Limited configuration possible
4) Little or no upgrading
5) Limited software
6) Poor for gaming
7) Expensive accessories
8 No touchscreen on macs or mac air
9) Poor support - 90 days for iphones/ipads
10) lousy warranty - 1 year
Pros
1) OS is much more stable than Windows and you do get fewer issues
2) One provider for the OS and hardware; PC's will have several and loads if its custom built. his could be a con too if its a simple issue as youd have to return/send the whole item which you might not with PCs eg faulty screen on MACs
3) Great resale value
4) Look nice, nicer than ,most if not all PCs
5) longetivity - can be used for years, unlike pcs that need a refresh or replacement every 2 years or so, but then again who wants to use 5+ year old tech
6) Shops are nice and handy if you have one near. If not ,support is terrible (in my experience, which is part why i ditched Apple-"Hi my iphone doesnt work after your last update", "you are outside your 90 days complimentary (sic) support, you will have to pay £79 to proceed" "WTF!!?? is that so you can explain why you have stuffed my phone and to fix the issue YOUR company caused")
bigmaz
2 Mar 17#167
Jeez.... Your arguments are embarrassing... What experience of Apple products have you had? I can back all my claims up thanks. Unlike you :wink:
bigmaz
2 Mar 17#168
Cannot beat a good argument with non educated Android sheep, haha!! It's pathetic I know, but they have so much hatred for a product for pathetic reasons :P its entertaining :smiley:
therandyowl
2 Mar 17#169
Does anyone know if this can be used alongside a student discount?
frozencake to therandyowl
2 Mar 171#174
No it can't
M1LFHunter
2 Mar 17#170
Really? People looking at a finance deal can't afford it.
firstofficer
2 Mar 17#171
Anyone know if they do a credit check prior to the release?
Regards
benlondon
2 Mar 17#172
I re-iterate, yes you can change it, I have done it recently and I can see it on the screen in front of me:
- log in to PayPal
- click the cog at the top right of the screen
- click on the payments tab
- scroll to the third option "paying online"
- you have the option to choose from "PayPal Credit" or "Choose a funding source at checkout"
when I checkout at a site using PayPal, it asks me to select a funding option, it does not default to PayPal Credit
frozencake
2 Mar 17#173
Barclays Partner Finance will run a credit check yes
deeky
2 Mar 17#175
Wut? :neutral_face:
firstofficer
2 Mar 17#176
Do people need a very high credit score?? What if there are outstanding CCJs and major debts?
CoeK
2 Mar 173#177
Then they have better things to do with their money than buy a phone.
loofer
2 Mar 17#178
That's in reference to 'normal' PayPal not PayPal Credit.
PayPal Credit is still governed by UK Consumer Credit Act which will include Section 75
royals
2 Mar 17#179
How is this a deal????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's not.
firstofficer to royals
2 Mar 17#180
Agreed
whelan189
2 Mar 17#181
Tis, I bought my GF a ipad recently cause I know android are not good on this game however there is areason for this because android is not focusing money into a dead market, it was such a fad, there will always be people who buy them however nowhere near the amount of the past
only thing good apple can be praised for is there phone being able to keep up with speed which is at a very big cost to the OS being so locked down and dull, but still props for that but not my cup of tea rather get same performance but with fast charging and dozens of over features iphones don;t have :smile:
croz123
2 Mar 17#182
Unfortunately Barclays and PayPal are only offering this on regular consumer purchases. This offer is running up until the 14th of March this year.
Such a shame I would of purchased if I could of used my education discount.
davilown to croz123
2 Mar 17#187
It's showing on my educational discount page as usable?
OldCity
2 Mar 17#183
Why not?I can buy any apple product in cash immediately if I wish, why not having monthly instalments and generate interest with my money? Silly not to.
davilown
2 Mar 17#184
Well said - iPads are, imo, the best at what they do. I have an iMac as well becuase for me and picture editing they are very good. However, I'll never own an iPhone again - how they can get away with poor quality products that break at the slightest knock I'll never know. Hold on, actually I do - sheep
winchman
2 Mar 17#185
Its only 12 months, can get credit cards with 30 months 0%.
bigmaz
2 Mar 17#186
Obv never held an iPhone....
davilown
2 Mar 17#188
Many a time and owned 4 - when you have to buy a military grade protective cover to prevent it from breaking, it's not fit for purpose
bigmaz
2 Mar 17#189
Again, obv was not an iPhone you had... Troll....
davilown
2 Mar 171#190
Why am I a troll? Just because you don't like someone's opinion doesn't make you right
bigmaz
2 Mar 17#191
But you are talking rubbish, so you are a troll... Its not an opinion whether an iPhone is cheaply made and breaks at the slightest drop. Its just BS...
croz123
2 Mar 17#193
Oh thats weird I never gave it a go and simply used the chat window. Will be purchasing the 2015 macbook pro tonight in that case thanks !.
bigmaz
2 Mar 17#194
Iphones/Ipads/Macs
Cons
1) Very expensive - So is the alternative equivelant, e.g. Dell XPS, Surface Pro etc
2) Lower spec PC equivalent - Does not need such high specs as the software is optimised run the hardware smoothly
3) Limited configuration possible - see above
4) Little or no upgrading - Agreed, but so are other tablets and other laptops
5) Limited software - Explain? App store has the widest selection for iPad/iPhone, Mac, you can run Windows, so actually has more software options
6) Poor for gaming - Agreed
7) Expensive accessories - Agreed
8 No touchscreen on macs or mac air - Agreed, although don't see that as a major issue
9) Poor support - 90 days for iphones/ipads - Utter BS
10) lousy warranty - 1 year - Not any worse than others, plus Apple Care is good value
Pros
1) OS is much more stable than Windows and you do get fewer issues
2) One provider for the OS and hardware; PC's will have several and loads if its custom built. his could be a con too if its a simple issue as youd have to return/send the whole item which you might not with PCs eg faulty screen on MACs
3) Great resale value
4) Look nice, nicer than ,most if not all PCs
5) longetivity - can be used for years, unlike pcs that need a refresh or replacement every 2 years or so, but then again who wants to use 5+ year old tech - well this has just proved the point that they are actually better value for money, plus 5 year old Mac will still run great
Utakos
2 Mar 17#195
Mmmmmmmmmmm bapples.
FocusST
2 Mar 172#196
I don't care about whether Apple is the best, or if they are over priced slightly, what I do care about is my time and my convenience.
I bought a Mac 2 years ago from a deal on here and was moving from Windows after 16 years, everyone said not to bother but I have never looked back. For a slightly higher cost I have a better more reliable system, all Windows dev software I use has been replaced with similar/equivalent software on the Mac and it all just works without drama.
I sometimes have to use a Windows 10 laptop and it frustrates me so much now to use Windows that I nearly end up smashing the thing!!
Not for everyone, but if you work in dev/software then the Mac is a good move. My iPads work much better than my kids Android tablets as well. :smiley:
Slowpoke1
2 Mar 17#197
Hey let's all get in debt with Apple
nathan3007 to Slowpoke1
2 Mar 17#198
It's not apple, its Barclays :smiley:
nathan3007
2 Mar 17#199
Who let you out of Misc Deeky? :smile:
I think that was the commenters attempt at sarcasm, who knows :stuck_out_tongue:
moonfruit
2 Mar 17#200
Apple can justify their pricing because they know people will continue to pay those prices. It makes business sense.
bigmaz
2 Mar 17#201
Yawn....
Noobster101
2 Mar 171#202
Can't believe the comments on here, same as always Apple vs Android but then taken to a child level of argumentation.
Thanks to the OP for posting this, it is a deal and I used this last year to get a brand new MacBook through Barclays over 12 months.
Yes I was lucky enough to have the cash at the time but it is nice to be able to spend over 12 months so you don't drop a lump sum in oneYes I do prefer Apple products but also have android devices in my household as well as a MS surface. Personally I use my MacBook the most as i find the experience more enjoyable.
Also to the person asking does it stack with student discount, yes it does and it did last year for me as I got 3 years apple care and a discount off my MacBook before the finance amount. You need to go through the Unidays Apple Higher education portal through Unidays (Student discount page)
cldox
2 Mar 171#203
Just curious, did you pay over the full term or pay off early? The T&Cs don't seem to mention if you can or not, I'd ideally like to put down a lump cost and spread the rest if possible.
Just to make you aware there was no log in portal for an up to date statement if going Barclays route. I had to submit a request then would receive it via post or could call for the balance over the phone.
Mathaeus
2 Mar 171#205
Cold votes simply because it apple? :0 only an imbecile would reduce himself to such puerility.. its HOT if it is the cheapest price available at the time and COLD if that's not the case! Or no vote if you can't heat up a deal for a product/corporation you despise
gardisms
2 Mar 171#206
You realise that a mobile phone contract is a credit agreement don't you?
cldox
2 Mar 17#207
That's a bit of a pain. I think the PayPal 0% finance is available more frequently than Barclays, but everyone seems to be advising against going with PayPal.
bigmaz
2 Mar 17#208
Of course not, that would require finding something out for yourself, which Apple haters cannot do, just hear people saying things and hop on the bandwagon with no knowledge whatsoever.... :P
CouldntThinkOfAUsername
2 Mar 17#209
The touch bar radeon 450 model. It's a brilliant laptop but it has dongle issue's. Third party dongles kill the WiFi, only Apple adpaters seem to work. The battery life issue is non existent. I wouldn't go back to the older design having had both.
deeky
2 Mar 171#210
What? You think he said it on purpose?
Meh :disappointed:
Ok, I'm going back :laughing:
Bad.Actor
2 Mar 17#211
Well done, you are, ignorant, thick and probably sporting the kind of personality I give a wide berth to.
nathan3007
2 Mar 172#212
Either that or someone that can't structure a sentence :smile:
Back to your natural habitat :stuck_out_tongue::smile: (see ya round Misc)
Noobster101
2 Mar 17#213
Yeah that was the reason i went with the Barclays option. Read up on paypal credit if you are going to use that option, but the stories online didn't fill me with confidence.
rborhara
2 Mar 171#214
Great find. more people can now transition over from the inferior Android OS and onto IOS , 12months 0% fantastic.!!!!!!
jonnyholywoodni
2 Mar 17#215
Apple crapple
frozencake
2 Mar 17#216
Yep, I never have any issues with Barclays finance
nathan3007
2 Mar 172#217
I'm only here for the comments :smile:
nathan3007
2 Mar 17#218
I never did either, only thing is if you wanted a settlement figure, you had to ring up
I think that some people need to understand that some people prefer other products over and above what they like. To be labeled an apple hater because I dared to say that the iphone was not fit for purpose because the screen breaks at the slightest knock in comparison to most of other phone is just wrong. Having had 4 iterations of the iPhone qualifies me as having had some experience.
iPads, imo, beat any android or windows device and so does the iMac. Why can't anyone else have an opinion without being jumped on?
Manners and courtesy are missing severely.
davilown
2 Mar 17#222
Ps Op - great post
bigmaz
2 Mar 172#223
Still talkin balls mate... I have an iPhone and dropped it on hard ground lots of times, no screen protector and there's not a scratch on it, therefore, you are talking out your rear end :smirk: I have one Apple device, rest is either Android or windows. I don't care, I just buy whatever is best out there for my needs. But to come into a forum to lie through your teeth about a product is just wrong... :smile:
ljbutchik07
2 Mar 17#224
Wish it's a 24months
frozencake
2 Mar 17#225
Yes mate, completely agree with you! You only have one life.. why not treat yourself to the best the world has to offer you
ezzer72
2 Mar 17#226
I don't know if anyone else will have the same opinion as me, but Apple make fantastic stuff - and iPhones...
Let's not get their high end stuff mixed up with their common as muck and average at best handsets.
lidds
2 Mar 17#227
Ah I see so 4k in one go is more than 4k over 12 months thanks didn't release
ezzer72
2 Mar 171#228
So your Apple device is an iPhone, and presumably your PC/laptop and tablet are Windows and Android respectively?
That is quite literally the polar opposite of buying the best stuff out there.
cldox
2 Mar 17#229
The 4k can be gathering interest in your account rather than theirs this way. Might not work out to a huge saving, but is better than nothing.
ezzer72
2 Mar 17#230
Seriously? This is how you see iPhone ownership?
ezzer72
2 Mar 171#231
This. 100%
lidds
2 Mar 17#232
But that relies on you having the money in the bank, if you have to finance a product that's unlikely. I would rather keep my credit score up personally
FrillyFrog
2 Mar 17#233
Very give you 12 months credit on Apple stuff if you have an account with them.
bigmaz
2 Mar 17#234
No, not at all... the iPhone 6 is a fantastic phone!! I always had android phones. Never again, I got bored of the rooting, so wanted something without the bloat. I have a Surface Pro, amazing piece of kit...
cldox
2 Mar 17#235
But if you do have the money, then it is worthwhile. And it doesn't have to be 4k, you could be buying an iPhone or iPad instead.
Mathaeus
2 Mar 17#236
I'll attest to that! Ive dropped mine loads of times.. I'm still on the 6! Not 6s or 7 so I've had it a fair while now with no screen protector just a slim fit spidgen case that only protects the back and it's in great shape no cracks no scratches it's served me well :smiley: It's not idiot proof but you just have to treat it like the £500+ piece of semi-delicate technology that it is.. if people want a phone they can treat like a dog toy then don't buy one made of glass!
bigmaz
2 Mar 17#237
Totally, the guy is either a troll, or he was sold a cheap iPhone clone :laughing:
frozencake
3 Mar 17#238
Yes, of course.. Try using an iPhone 7 plus for 1 month and tell me it's not the best phone in the world right now.. I deliberately try to make it lag out to no avail and it is just simply a joy to use. Why spend your life using some dusty old piece of crap phone when the world has so much to offer, like superior Apple products :stuck_out_tongue:
whelan189
3 Mar 17#239
since when do you need a new pc every two years lol?
I own a dell xps 13 and still use my thinkpad x230 more because its a solid machine and is over 10 years old, i Can't see anyone using 10 year old macs still
winchman
3 Mar 17#240
Its not the cheapest price available because you can get credit cards with 30 months interest free. For some reason people are blinded because its linked to Apple products, when in fact you could do the very same thing with any product you buy, it doesn't need to be more than £399.
bigmaz
3 Mar 171#241
Plenty people use old Macs, it's well known that they have a longer life span, as they are built to last, even Apple haters cannot argue with it. Why do people base arguments on what THEY can see? Well done on your 10 year old Thinkpad, but that's the experience of every Mac owner...
bigmaz
3 Mar 171#242
Get over it, its gone hot, so it's a good deal for people. And stop the boring "just because it's Apple" change the record... People like Apple, people like Samsung, people like HTC. Dry yer eyes and let people enjoy what they like
winchman
3 Mar 17#243
I was replying to a comment that said 'cheapest price available', its not. It would appear that people are 'suddenly' finding they can get cheap credit with this deal, when in fact 0% is available from many sources over a longer period, which in strict economic terms is a better deal. The chances are most people would keep the product more than a year, so why not spread the cost over a longer period?
sminky
3 Mar 17#244
Plenty of people who can't afford a phone up front buy it on monthly contract. Nothing wrong with that. As this is a 0% deal it's just the same as a a contraxt in my view.
Would love to but a new MacBook Pro but the drop in the exchange rates has made them even more eye-wateringly expensive.
sminky
3 Mar 17#245
I use a 8/9 year-old MacBook Pro. Most codes I know use MBPs.
bigmaz
3 Mar 17#246
But everyone knows that... you are not saying anything new. There are so many options available, even though I would go down the route you mention, other people would rather this. It's all about choice ☺
bigmaz
3 Mar 17#247
Na, you can't be, that other guy says he can't see you use it, so it mustn't be true :laughing: so many people have jumped on this band wagon saying Apple products are cheap rubbish sold at a high price without even looking at them, talk about sheep, lol....
Ncos
3 Mar 17#248
well this has made it completely affordable to me now to buy on credit. How can I save up with massive outgoings each month which just about leaves enough to live on. Paying £35-£40 per month is the right option for me, not 'laughable', in fact I am over the moon I can finally get round to replacing the old one that broke 3 years ago.
bigmaz
3 Mar 17#249
How many people do you know that get a phone on a monthly contract? You do realise they are paying off the phone over that time yeah? or are you still learning about life? Most people I know have mobile phone contracts, no a lot buy SIM free...
winchman
3 Mar 17#250
The fact that everyone is getting so excited about getting this 0% deal suggests not.
Not everyone has a great credit score to take advantage of credit deals such as this.
bigmaz
3 Mar 17#253
They are voting hot on a deal by pressing a link on a site they are browsing mate, no one is getting excited.... Are you ok?
bigmaz
3 Mar 17#254
Not everyone can get that kind of credit..... Just don't worry about it mate, everyone knows about the stuff you are saying, you seem to think you have found something that only you know :confused:
CoeK
3 Mar 171#255
Iphone hasn't been the best phone for ages.
CoeK
3 Mar 17#256
I assume this was a joke?
whelan189
3 Mar 171#257
and plenty of people use old pcs, unless someone went into every home and checked how many people are using old stuff and puts in statistics then its pretty pointless claiming apple products last longer,
yes a 300£ laptop is most likely going to be binned in 5 years, but a mac is not 300£ i would bloody hope it will last longer then 5 years
bigmaz
3 Mar 17#258
Exactly.... And that is why you do pay more, thank you for agreeing with my argument :smiley:
Well having experience in both for over 25 years, I think I can say I have a feel for it by now.... More than I can say for most Apple haters who have never touched an Apple... I go on fact, not on what I hear on the grapevine and go with an agenda to hate something I know nothing about
cantonbean
3 Mar 17#259
Thinkpad...the only laptop that made macs look cheap...I'm an avid Mac user but comparing a 10 year old thinkpad as a benchmark for PCs makes sense! For many years they were the only laptop of similar quality and I know someone who paid £4K for one so of course it's held up....funny that...same as a Mac...sometimes you get what you pay for!
bigmaz
3 Mar 17#260
Finally, someone comparing like for like :smiley: But most Apple haters say, "why would you buy an expensive Apple, when you can buy similar for £300" :laughing:
CoeK
3 Mar 17#261
But you can buy a thinkpad for a lot less and it will still last a long time.
bigmaz
3 Mar 17#262
Mac's are not cheap junk mate, let it go.... Go into a shop and inspect it and you will agree, as he says, you get what you pay for, don't believe everything you hear....
CoeK
3 Mar 17#263
You are full of cliche i will give you that.
I never said they were cheap junk.
I just dispute the cost effectiveness that is being claimed.
bigmaz
3 Mar 17#264
Explain your dispute and convince me then
cantonbean
3 Mar 17#265
Do not compare the Lenovo models to a proper thinkpad! You need to be looking at the top of the range thinkpad x1 carbon and even then they aren't the quality of the IBM models! If you want to look at how to destroy a respected brand in 5 easy steps...the X1 carbon starts at 1430 (on offer) exactly the same a macbook pro none touch...so...
CoeK
3 Mar 17#266
I couldn't care less about convincing anyone.
I personally think the macbook pro is a very nice laptop, i like that they went all USB-C, i dislike the touchbar, i use the function keys constantly so it would become a problem not having them. I don't think the hardware merits the high price personally. However if people buy it for mac OS then they don't have many options.
I'd be interested to know what makes this notebook worth the money unless you only care about using Mac OS.
bigmaz
3 Mar 17#267
Good man :smiley: thats exactly what he is doing, hence saying he doesnt know what he is talking about, just looks at prices and what other people say :P at least you have compared like for like.... X1 is a nice piece of kit :smiley: but I rather the build of a Mac, my opinion. But def a good comparison
winchman
3 Mar 171#268
I'm fine, I'm not the one resorting to personal insults when people don't agree with you. You are the one calling people Apple haters, saying they are talking BS, if they don't happen to agree with you.
bigmaz
3 Mar 17#269
I say they are talking BS, when they talk BS, not just when they don't agree with me, its the Apple haters that do that :wink: Please read the posts properly :smiley:
winchman
3 Mar 171#270
You call people apple haters and feel the need to say they are talking BS.
bigmaz
3 Mar 17#271
Of course they are Apple haters if they spread wrong information about them because they don't like the brand... Please tell me what I said was BS that you have an issue with.
CoeK
3 Mar 17#272
You seem to have some kind of emotional investment in this company.
The lenovo X1 carbon is cheaper btw, with a better processor and integrated graphics. Also bigger battery.
The Mac has a better screen at the bottom end though. The base lenovo only has lower resolution but is a bit bigger at 14 inches.
CoeK
3 Mar 17#273
Luckily they have you to protect their honour.
bigmaz
3 Mar 17#274
Please let me know what models exactly you have just googled to come up with that
CoeK
3 Mar 17#275
Crazy i know but i google lenovo x1 carbon to get the details about the lenovo x1 carbon, and then macbook pro 13 to get the details about the macbook pro 13. It's all highly technical but if you google how to google you should get there in the end.
bigmaz
3 Mar 17#276
Exactly, you are just googling stuff for facts that you want to hear... Even though the battery is bigger, do you know any facts about how long each lasts?
winchman
3 Mar 17#277
I'd have thought if you can get £1200 on this deal then there is a very good chance you would get a credit card, you may be offered a lower credit limit on the card than other people if your credit score is not as high as it could be.
winchman
3 Mar 17#278
Your need to call people BS'ers, and apple haters.
whelan189
3 Mar 17#279
I use a laptop - monitor setup because everytime i use a desktop i always find it annoying i can't be somewhere else using it unless i get another laptop and keep using memory sticks, and i recently bought a dell xps 13 all specced out with 2k and touchscreen and thing is i have it plugged in 90% of the time lol, so will be most likely selling it soon and just use my thinkpad which on paper might be not as good as new I7 proccesor but lets be honest most users who buy top spec laptops only browse the web anyway lol, we as consumers just like something new and shiny because we think its better
bigmaz
3 Mar 17#280
But if they are hating on Apple or talking BS, then why shouldn't I?
CoeK
3 Mar 17#281
I agree with you, i hate when people google for facts. In future i will just use my feelings.
15.5 hours of battery claimed, can't see any battery tests yet so can't confirm that, it needs to beat 8 hours on the macbook pro... the old x1 carbon with a smaller battery did around 8 hours.
Is it really hard to believe it can be a better laptop? Surely if the macbook pro was that good you would have one?
bigmaz
3 Mar 17#282
Let me know where you are getting your info, and lets see if you are not talking BS
CoeK
3 Mar 17#283
Because your name isn't apple?
bigmaz
3 Mar 17#284
Eh??? :confused:
Anyway, If someone is talking BS to me, I should just say, "yeah, thats right mate"?
cantonbean
3 Mar 17#285
By what 30 quid and that is only because it is on offer! I'm comparing the base models of both (the none touch) and that is only because it is on offer. The performance between i5s skylake and kabylake is so minimal. Both dual core (quad core and i7 makes a big differance but then you lose battery) same ram, better Iris on the mac and not even going to check ssd speed as Mac will be faster. .3 of a ghz will hardly make a difference! Then the p3 screen on the Mac. I also reckon the mac will have better battery because this model actually has the longest battery life of all the new macbook ranges. In fact it makes the base mac seem good value (I actually think it is ok but the upgrades are a joke price wise!). No idea what specs you are looking at!
cantonbean
3 Mar 17#286
15 hours...what a load of bs! I hate how PC manufacturers quote 0 brightness and no wifi etc in these figures! Be lucky to get 5-7 i bet! Apple has many faults but their battery claims are pretty accurate in terms of real use (say 50% brightness as nits are so good and wifi). Example:- This Mibook Air I am typing on quoted 12 hours at 0% brightness and all wifi etc turned off! Really world usage at 70-100% brightness is more like 5!)
CoeK
3 Mar 17#287
The difference is £70 on the base model. The difference increases when you go up equally on both to £150 on the middle model with the same specs again. Then becomes £110 on the high end, though the lenovo has twice the ram at that point.
I'm not really interested in what you think the battery life is going to be i only really care about what it actually is.
CoeK
3 Mar 17#288
The older model with smaller battery got over 8 hours according to anandtech. Why would it suddenly go down just because you want it to?
CoeK
3 Mar 17#289
No, you should tell them to stop looking at google for "facts".
bigmaz
3 Mar 17#290
Oh jeez.... CoeK, give up... you are just spouting figures you know nothing about... Useless arguing with you... Bye
winchman
3 Mar 172#291
A comment was made about the screen smashing, and you accused them of talking out of their rear end.
A friend dropped theirs a couple of weeks ago on to concrete and the screen smashed, it happens. You don't do your argument any favours by being insulting, especially when people know the screens smash and have seen it happen as I have.
Released 2012 - as for old Macs my 2006 Mac Mini is still running as my iTunes server at home.
CoeK
3 Mar 172#293
You are right of course. I shouldn't use figues at all.
If you give me a day or two i can create an interpretive dance routine which will explain the differences between these two computers in a beautiful and emotional way without relying on stupid facts and numbers.
Just need to find my muse.
bigmaz
3 Mar 17#294
As have I
He was actually saying that the iPhone in particular smashes with the slightest of knocks, which is BS. Read first please :smiley:
CoeK
3 Mar 173#295
This can't have happened. The phone must have broken the concrete and what you thought was broken glass was bits of concrete under a lot of pressure turning into a form of crystal.
bigmaz
3 Mar 172#296
My cheap digital camera has millions more pixels than a particular SLR camera 10 times the price. There you go, there are some facts and figures I googled with bigger numbers in the spec.. My camera must be superior based on the way you do your research :laughing:
Kebabselector
3 Mar 17#297
My credit score on experian (who Barclays use) is 982 (out of 999) - No CCJ or major debts (other than 30k mortgage and 6k CC) or Cifa warnings and I got rejected for £428 0% over 12 months.
I'll pick up a watch using my money from my isa instead, just use that for effectively a 1.5% loan (as I wont get interest on it!).
I didn't bother trying Paypal's 0% as I cant stand they way they operate. And to thank Barclays I closed down 4 accounts with them yesterday.
bigmaz
3 Mar 17#298
You have lost it mate, walk on buddy, your job of loosing an argument here is done :smiley:
CoeK
3 Mar 17#299
Yes comparing vague products like cheap camera and particular SLR is the same as comparing 2 products know to everyone.
Hang on a minute while i google cheap camera v particular SLR to confirm you haven't missed anything...
Wow you are correct google said your cheap camera is better than that particular SLR.
CoeK
3 Mar 171#300
I've loosed off a few arguments, you'll have to tell me which one made you done?
bigmaz
3 Mar 17#301
Lol, man, you argue like a kid :laughing:
Anyway, you are boring me now with your weak arguments. I'll keep on with life un blinkered, choosing the right device for me, wether it be Apple, Samsung, Lenovo, Microsoft. While you march on with your biased agendas :smiley:
CoeK
3 Mar 172#302
BS, thats total BS, i do not argue like a kid why are you talking BS...
This will go over your head like most things but at least i amuse myself.
bigmaz
3 Mar 17#303
You have amused me as well with your arguments, was a good laugh, cheers :laughing:
CoeK
3 Mar 17#304
No problem, a little bit of ice in a tea towel, a few paracetamol and your headache from all those figures will be gone quickly.
bigmaz
3 Mar 17#305
Aye, the ones that won you the argument? Aye, very good, well done son... :laughing:
Well done with finding some numbers that don't prove anything... Takes a special person to come up with what you did, very special :wink:
Kimsiev
3 Mar 17#306
Yes, I love your comment.
croz123
3 Mar 171#307
Unfortunately , the 0% offer isn’t available through the Educational Online Store, and while the 0% offer is running, the standard 14.9% "Barclays finance" & "Paypal credit” are unavailable as well I am afraid.
Can confirm disappointed.
CoeK
3 Mar 17#308
Wait til you see my dance routine.
winchman
3 Mar 17#309
The point I was making was that you do yourself no favours by saying people are talking BS, or talking out of their rear end all the time.
firstofficer
3 Mar 17#310
Voting this cold. Not a deal.
Anyway, what's wrong with paying using cash?
bigmaz
3 Mar 17#311
Sorry, did I hurt your feelings? Hehe.... I apologise, my goodness, people are soft these days :stuck_out_tongue: I just call a spade a spade, no beating around the bush with me, haha!! If someone talks BS, I tell them, but I am sorry if this offends you.
bigmaz
3 Mar 17#312
So do I, was the best comment of the thread :smiley:
winchman
3 Mar 17#313
Not offended and no feelings hurt, just sorry for you having to resort to insults to try and get your point across.
CoeK
3 Mar 17#314
Don't bring facts to a emotion fight.
Next you will be googling for information and posting it like it means something to people.
bigmaz
3 Mar 17#315
I can type how I like buddy, I don't have to use that to get points across, the person done that themselves by talking BS, I was just pointing it out :smiley: And if you think that is not on, then maybe an open forum is not a place for you :wink:
Don't feel sorry for me, I am perfectly fine :smiley: unlike the Google guy :laughing: a few screws loose I think
bigmaz
3 Mar 17#316
What Apple products have you tried buddy?
CoeK
3 Mar 17#317
I had iphones for ages, i had an ipad for years, i need a pc that can play games as well as do work so i have never owned their PC's unless you count school or having a shot with my sisters macbook.
Is my issue that i have never formed an emotional attachment to any of these things?
bigmaz
3 Mar 17#318
Who has an emotional attachment? You have lost it mate....
CoeK
3 Mar 17#319
Well i don't see why else someone would complain about facts and figures being used when the actual discussion was about macs being more cost effective.
You keep saying stuff like"you have lost it mate" but really all i was looking for was for someone to show me why apple is more cost effective. What you have said amounts to"it's more cost effective because i say so now stop showing me facts and figures to prove otherwise".
Also you have said how biased i am, i don't really know what i am biased towards or do you think i'm just generally biased away from apple?
I have said quite a few times now that i am a fan of some apple hardware, i like the new macbook pro for its all USB-C implementation, but that doesn't mean i will defend it's price at all costs(pun intended) or refuse to acknowledge it isn't the best hardware for everyone.
Also when people want to make claims about something being the better option price wise i am inclined to want some proof, maybe it's because i'm an accountant and we just like the numbers.
I'm sure for some people apple is by far the best option, but i think for most it isn't the case.
bigmaz
3 Mar 17#320
But my megapixel example explained why your findings were of no meaning, you keep going back to it, it was just random stuff you quoetd, Ok, it's a faster CPU, so what? Back up if that makes the computer faster overall. A Rolls Royce has a huge engine, doesnt mean its going to be the fastest car as it weighs a tonne. You have to back your figures up.... And if you are an accountant, I hope you can back up your accounts better than you computer arguments :laughing:
frozencake
3 Mar 17#321
Unfortunately it doesn't work that way
jkbx
3 Mar 17#322
Can't get it with student discount though :/
cantonbean
3 Mar 17#323
In what conditions? What resolution is the screen too?
cantonbean
3 Mar 171#324
Anyway...the point is premium products cost money. The only PC I see as better value for money is the Dell XPS 15 new version...nearly bought one but I don't like 15 inch laptops! The Linux compatibility is a big plus though! The XPS line still isn't cheap though!
cantonbean
3 Mar 17#325
I only refer to products for work btw
cantonbean
3 Mar 171#326
I've just bought a retro iMac from 2003 and it works fine! Also use a white MacBook from 2009 daily and with an SSD and 4GB RAM it's perfectly usable! Can't say the same about most PCs I earned! Then again I didn't have the money for premium products back then (the White MacBook I bought 2 years ago to keep on work desk as nobody would bother nicking it (the SSD and RAM cost same as the laptop!)
mushypeas25
3 Mar 172#327
Nerds arguing again
roguesspam
3 Mar 17#328
But apple stuff is worse than other products and the other products dont have the idiot tax that is applied to apple merchandise.
CoeK
3 Mar 17#329
You really aren't getting this. I used an example someone else used as a good PC to compare with a macbook, i then stated exactly what figures i got from both of those manufacturers own websites. Again, this was someone that thinks the macbooks are good value's own comparison, they stated they were the same price, they weren't the same price nor were the the same hardware.
If you want to argue that the macbook is worth more because of mac os then that is your opinion and i can't really disagree with what you need a notebook for. But if someone says that one piece of hardware costs the same as another piece of hardware then i will look into that and see if its true. It wasn't and the figures on each manufacturers website said as such, not argos, not john lewis but both manufacturers.
Saying that a ferrari 458 is slower than a fiesta is something you can check and disprove, you saying a certain cheap car is faster than a much more expensive sports car isn't something that can be checked, its too vague which is my problem with your silly example.
If you want backup for my figures go to the lenovo website and the apple website and they are there, its really really simple to do.
Apologies if i have explained this like i am explaining to a 5 year old, i can only work with what's in front of me.
CoeK
3 Mar 17#330
Why don't you google for real life battery tests? I don't have this PC and only brought it up as you thought thinkpads were a good example of a notebook comparable to the macbook. The newest one is only just out so i guess they haven't tested it yet.
CoeK
3 Mar 17#331
Yes premium costs money.
But apple also charge over £1200 for a macbook with an intel m3 at 1.1Ghz. Is that really a sensible purchase for anybody? Is it made of adamantium?
The macbook pro is much more sensible.
CoeK
3 Mar 171#332
winchman
3 Mar 17#333
I'm not sure anybody knows which way credit referencing works!!
misterleoni
3 Mar 17#334
No they don't...
misterleoni
3 Mar 174#335
Why on earth are people arguing about the cost of Apple products on here? They charge the money people are willing to pay and it works for them. Whether you like them or not is irrelevant as you don't *have* to buy their products, and it's certainly foolish to get angry about it, as if on some kind of mission to enlighten people and make them buy a PC and an Android phone. Apple products don't run the same OS as other products so making a direct comparison is irrelevant anyway, and in all walks of life there are things we might see as a rip-off that other people are happy to pay for - football, designer handbags...the list goes on. Sometimes you just have to leave people to do what they want to do and spend their money how they see fit.
The 'deal' here is the 0% interest finance, and for that reason I'm voting hot. If you don't want to buy anything from Apple then move along, don't get into an argument. This deal simply isn't for you. Broadly speaking though, 0% interest on a desirable product is a hot deal.
winchman
3 Mar 171#336
The only way to improve the deal is a longer interest free period. If only there were a way to get a longer interest free period?
Samiq77
3 Mar 17#337
How do I apply for financing if I am a student? I tried doing it through PayPal, got rejected. There is no option of student/unemployed @Barclays. Any help?
CoeK
3 Mar 17#338
Same reason people discuss other deals? Same as when someone is buying a surface to do things a £200 notebook would do, or someone is buying an i7 to word process etc. People like to discuss these things.
Oh and i voted hot too 0% is a good deal if you need an apple product obviously.
cantonbean
3 Mar 17#339
I acutally own the M5 version and they have sold a large amount. I admit that for some it is to pose at a coffee shop. If you can get over the one port the Macbook is actually a very good machine. No fan noise and near enough i5 performance on the M5 and M7 and super portable. Also M5 version has 512SSD and 8GB RAM so for me it is actually a great machine as decent storage and some of the best build quality and super portable. The 2016 is also a very capable machine (the 2015 wasnt) and I run VMware on it with no issues! I also bought it at pre price increases as I decided that for me to spec out the Macbook Pro was too much money (512SSD 16GB RAM). I don't video edit so I can do 99% of work on the Macbook! Don't knock it until you have tried it....superb speakers and lot of screen real estate in more space mode in a super small footprint. It is great for doing work on as silent!
stugga
3 Mar 17#340
voted cold, can't see why this is hot, over priced to begin with and you think your getting a good deal with 0%, come on guys, think about it!
gr1340
3 Mar 177#341
17 pages of utter drivel.
If you want Android, buy Android. If you want Apple, buy Apple.
If the deal is for Tesco chicken soup, does everyone argue that Sainsbury's is better?
Do you see Apple owners going on to every Android phone thread and throw their toys out the pram?
So why does every Apple thread end up with Android owners doing that?
Yes, Apple is expensive but come the time you want to sell then a year old iPhone will be worth more than a year old Sony/Samsung so it balances out.
If you don't want or do not like Apple then go somewhere else, why post on a deal about Apple?
Just for the record, I have an IPhone at the moment, prior to that I had an S7 Edge, before that several other iPhone and Android phones so I have experienced all of them.
I don't agree with anyone that categorically states that one is better than the other, they all have good points and bad points.
However, and rather controversially, what I do think is that jealousy plays a large part in these arguments or the need to justify that a lower priced product is better than a higher priced product. Just my own opinion obviously and everyone is entitled to there own, I just wish if you are not interested in a deal you would just leave it alone.
misterleoni
3 Mar 17#342
They're very rarely actually 'discussing' though - discussing isn't jeering like a schoolboy at someone else's interests.
cabstar
3 Mar 171#343
I've actually found Very to he excellent for returns. They replaced my Nikon D750 within 24 hours of a fault developing. If you're using consumer finance to purchase a product the chances are you are a consumer and not a business transaction...
ezzer72
3 Mar 17#344
Are they really so heavy?? Was that 'fact' from Google?
brilly
3 Mar 17#345
what part of the 'fact' is wrong?
are you saying:
it doesn't weigh a tonne
its the fastest
should you have googled first?
ezzer72
3 Mar 17#346
The lightest model weighs around 2.5t
brilly
3 Mar 17#347
so?
ezzer72
3 Mar 17#348
Wow, I'll never be able to compete with your intelligence and wit, I surrender.
croz123
4 Mar 172#349
I ended up buying the Macbook Air £850. It will do me for a few years. Sold my old macbook pro for £400 too.
frozencake
4 Mar 171#350
Great choice, I got the same but on the Very deal... received today it is amazingly good
whelan189
4 Mar 17#351
Considering apples 20% increase in many products makes apple store sorta like Very.com, claiming you pay 0% finance when in fact they just added the average % finance to the price
misterleoni
4 Mar 17#352
Blah blah blah blah BORING
scalpels
4 Mar 17#353
ZZZzzzzz... Go stand in front of a mirror and bore yourself to sleep.
Sogaaddict
4 Mar 17#354
You'd think that the banks and Paypal would have got this sorted by now, in the interests of purchasers, since over 99% of items on eBay are "pay through Paypal" which indeed negates the bank protection on credit cards on purchases of £100 +.
whelan189
4 Mar 17#355
When people complain they don't earn much money to afford to go on holiday the real reason is they buy into marketing to much
boomish
4 Mar 17#356
lol true & how expensive are they , again you get what you pay for..
vennuth1
4 Mar 17#357
Can't be bothered to read the thread as it'll be all petty arguing, but a word of caution; the Mac models (bare Pro with touch bar) are all due an imminent update, as are iPads.
stugga
4 Mar 171#358
I agree, why people can't see this is beyond me.
manbearpig
4 Mar 171#359
If anyone did that NUS discount, you can get 10% off apple products via their website. No finance available at 0% though.
If you have the cash its better than this.
croz123
4 Mar 171#360
Oops I liked your comment by accident. This is due to inflation apple were just first in line to raise the prices. Microsoft are now next as they recently announced a price rise on their surface tablets.
Krizzo3
4 Mar 17#361
Im on my 3rd iphone, but not sure if that will continue
krisward7955
4 Mar 171#362
Glad this thread has gone hot. Didn't even bother to read all the Fandroid comments.. I'm happy with the gadgets I have so won't be buying direct, but when I got my iPad Pro, it came with 2 years interest free from someone else. And I'm more than happy with it. Good find OP :smiley:
krisward7955
4 Mar 17#363
Cus he's a ****
nevergofull
4 Mar 171#364
Just in case anyone else is trying to use 0% with your NUS discount, you can't! Just been confirmed with Apple live chat. Great payment option though, heat from me.
Ali.Balamir
4 Mar 17#365
0% interest must be on all the time not just occasionally, hot from me
Petetobin
4 Mar 17#366
I like a new toy every year.
Noobster101
4 Mar 172#367
Go through Unidays portal instead.
shwany7
4 Mar 171#368
Tried to go through UniDays and also didnt give me the option :disappointed:
aeykeay
5 Mar 17#369
This only suggests one thing, more better products are releasing soon another hint is look at when this deal ends and the next day new items will be announced etc. Hot deal for someone who has no 0% credit cards, cash and/or urgent need to buy but can't pay straightaway.
CoeK
5 Mar 17#370
lol
jizzyjosh
5 Mar 17#371
I suspect this offer ends just as they unveil new ipads.
David18
5 Mar 172#372
Gotta love the hate Apple always gets on here. I bet many of their haters are typing it on modern smartphones they can thank Apple for inventing...
pengwyn
5 Mar 17#373
For year I believed the bs that apples where more efficient. Just gone to the dark side and got a 4s what a pile of ****. No way is the 4s as good as any 1gb android phone... Any 1gb android phone. Get it if you are an isheep. Glad I got a wireless pen drive means I done have to deal with iTunes ****.
Do yourself all a favour duck this off and get an android phone it'll be better and far cheaper voting sub zero
SkatePalace
5 Mar 175#374
The iPhone 4s is years out of date. Stop embarrasing yourself.
m5rcc
5 Mar 17#375
Each to their own...
david_robinson94
5 Mar 171#376
Lower Battery life, GPU Faults, screen faults, keyboard issues. All reported and consistently found issues.
The 2015 model does not have any of these widespread problems, is almost as fast in real world tests and is cheaper.
Sure you do miss out on the touch bar, however I don't think most people will miss it.
The 2016 MacBook Pro was a total balls up, it is not what one would expect of an Apple Product.
david_robinson94
5 Mar 17#377
You are a very unlucky individual, your issues are not widespread if they were it would be front page news.
CouldntThinkOfAUsername
5 Mar 17#378
Yawn. Do you even have one or are you one of those Apple haters who believe what they read on the internet?
My Radeon 450 touch bar model has been working fine for the past two months other than the already stated third party dongle wifi issue. I'm sure it'll out last any current windows pos. It's better than any similar priced windows laptop.
if you buy apple apple product from third party if anything happens you have to deal with them not apple that makes it more complicated, So I think few pounds that you save from third party seller is worth investing for longer insurance directly with apple. my 2 cents :smiley:
westernise
5 Mar 171#380
The only reason I use apple is because of the good battery life. The operating system of the phone does not drain your battery as quickly as Android for example. However, I would change to Android today if they had same battery life as the iPhone.
davilown
5 Mar 17#381
I have a LG G5 and the battery always lasts a lot longer than my wife's iPhone 7.
Had you said laptop or MacBook then apple has always out performed battery wise any laptop I've had - though have now switched to an iMac
kDelta
5 Mar 171#382
So what you are saying is that customers in the UK should be offered a discount because they were retarded enough to vote for Brexit? Like it or not we live in a capitalist society. Businesses charge what they like and the consumer decides if they feel it is worth paying for. You expect Apple to pay for the mistakes of the British people? They are the ones who increased the cost of imports, Apple has no obligation to absorb that cost increase.
kDelta
5 Mar 171#383
Out of interest is your wife "closing" her apps? If so this is why her battery life sucks. Huge and seemingly unstoppable myth that this increases battery life, it does the opposite.
gidsterc
5 Mar 17#384
just another way from get you to buy the latest stuff (that you don't need anyway)!
maltikism
5 Mar 17#385
Apple probably charge more than £399 for a USB adaptor. And you'll need 4 of those if you want the "new" (despite having a last gen processor) Mac Book "Pro" (despite not having an SD card slot for professional photographers to use).
CoeK
5 Mar 17#386
He literally just defended apple in the post before yours. However nice knee-jerk defence.
xeroc
5 Mar 17#387
They're £9 (£7.50 with education discount) :smiley: Or you can get a third party one for £6ish!
maltikism
5 Mar 17#388
some people like throwing their money away.
david_robinson94
5 Mar 171#389
No, I've been using Apple computers for the last 21 years.
I was one of the of the first people in the UK to have an iPhone (went to the USA and bought one rather than waiting for UK release) and my home is very Apple centric.
In short I'm about as far from an Apple hater as one could get.
I'm glad your new MacBook Pro is working for you and that you are not concerned with the decreased battery life against the previous generation.
I hope it continues to function perfectly, but there are a lot of users who have had issues, one of my colleagues has had a problem with the keyboard and the issues are actually wider spread than you might wish to believe.
CouldntThinkOfAUsername
6 Mar 17#390
My last MBP was a 2009 model and in between I've used high end Windows laptops which have had annoying things about them. This MBP TB clearly isn't worth upgrading a 2013-2015 MBP but any issues, Apple will replace parts or get a refund if you bought it direct from Apple. People who had issues should have returned it within 14(?) days.
I can get 8 hours of web browsing which is good enough, had 46% battery left, I streamed an episode of Mr Robot, around 3 hours of web browsing and downloading stuff before the battery was critically low.
pengwyn
6 Mar 17#391
Haha Clown... If you haven't extrapolated that the new 2gb iPhone are as good as a 30 gbp 2gb android phone you can get off ebay you've already lost.. Get a life
Anon32
6 Mar 17#392
Don't you hate it when people delete out their comments because they have made themselves look stupid when they have been quoted! Makes them look even more stupid!
davilown
6 Mar 17#393
Not sure, I'll ask her - Cheers
ST3123
6 Mar 17#394
I'm saying large wealthy companies like Apple with the capital to comfortably absorb the cost increases should do so. At the prices they charge I am sure they wouldn't have been making a loss on their original pricing model (just less profit) and the profits from other regions with more favourable trading climates would balance out any short term losses of profit in any event. Don't forget most of these big companies that are pushing up their prices are worldwide organisations, they don't just sell in the UK.
And don't forget only barely over half the population made that choice (to leave EU), it was not a overwhelming majority by any means. Personally, I didn't decide either way, as I didn't want the choice to make, it's a decision the prime minister should have made rather than farming it out to the people IMHO but I digress....
cantonbean
6 Mar 17#395
Prices were put up all over not just UK so stop blaming Brexit for Apple greed! We are still actually one of the best places in Europe to buy an Apple device even taking Euro to pound into account!
tianuk3
6 Mar 17#396
Good deal; but pity that everything is now even more overpriced following Brexit; utter rip off now.
DealmasterLawson
6 Mar 17#397
Fire rated hot :stuck_out_tongue: would be better without the £3 minimum spend:{
SkatePalace
6 Mar 17#398
Why would I want a 2GB '30 GPB' Android mobile phone? My 18 month old iPhone 6s does everything that I need and so does my 2014 Macbook Pro... They're both ready to be replaced later this year actually, maybe I could send you out my old devices so that you can have a taster of the finer things in life, 'Mr Android FTW'.
messer79
6 Mar 17#399
Can't go wrong with this
bigmaz
6 Mar 17#400
Just cannot believe these Fandroid folk eh? "the new 2gb iPhone are as good as a 30 gbp 2gb android phone" :laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing: Obviously knows his stuff.... :stuck_out_tongue:
pengwyn
6 Mar 17#401
I do know my stuff I am an apple experienced 'fandroid' I'm sending my ipuke to landfill and I suggest you do the same
pengwyn
7 Mar 17#402
I always suspected iPhones were **** no I know there ****
whatyadoinsucka
7 Mar 171#403
Just get the Sainsbury's Credit card 28 months interest free , when you repay 2.25% of the balance each month
Nerval
7 Mar 171#404
Voted cold cos it's Apple, but did this on my lovely 27 inch iMac with Retina display
Now there's irony for you :smiley:
harveylong26
7 Mar 17#405
This deal ends on the 14th of march, one day before payday. In need of a new computer so gonna try and make use of this. Thanks for sharing this! :smiley:
winchman
7 Mar 171#406
I've suggested a credit card too! But people seem keen to defend this as somehow a better deal, no idea why. There may be differences in peoples credit rating, but the credit card gives you better options than a 12 months 0% on only Apple products.
bigmaz
7 Mar 17#407
What if they cannot get accepted for a long term interest free CC, or simply do not want to get a CC? People seem to know everyone's financial situations, let people decide for themselves according to their situation... Everyone knows about long term interest free CC's
1Baloo
7 Mar 17#408
GREAT! Just in time as looking to buy a iMac!
davilown
7 Mar 171#409
Hold it, you'll get called an apple hater...... :wink:
davilown
7 Mar 171#410
But what's the difference in applying for this compared with a 0% CC?
aarontp
7 Mar 17#411
It is a good deal but this may be because the UK prices have shot up by 20% due to Brexit so now more potential customers are being priced out of the market. It is disgusting how much they have pushed prices up but this may be the only way people could afford one so at 0% it is a good deal. If you are going on holiday to USA it is a lot cheaper (we both Apple products whilst we are there) as they haven't put their prices up like in the UK, and they are international so the warranty works worldwide.
aarontp
7 Mar 17#412
It is a good deal but this may be because the UK prices have shot up by 20% due to Brexit so now more potential customers are being priced out of the market. It is disgusting how much they have pushed prices up but this may be the only way people could afford one so at 0% it is a good deal. If you are going on holiday to USA it is a lot cheaper (we both Apple products whilst we are there) as they haven't put their prices up like in the UK, and they are international so the warranty works worldwide.
bigmaz
7 Mar 17#413
Same reason why it's easier to get a CC with only 3 months 0% than it is to get a CC with 20 Months 0%.
Corasli
7 Mar 17#414
Mine's not BS but you dont know what your talking about, the reason they gave you a new one is because you had extended warranty and they couldnt repair your old one! Any company would do that!!!
My point is this, paying a premium for their service or products is not worth it. I have been using macbooks since 2001 and iphones since 2009 so I know what they were and what they are now you d.mbo.
bigmaz
7 Mar 17#415
The difference with Apple service is you can just walk into a store and get it replaced. But with another make, you'd need to send it away, then wait for delivery of a new one. And the people that say you are better ordering a £30 smartphone from China than buy an iPhone, then you have no hope in hell getting a new replacement quickly
bigmaz
7 Mar 17#416
I think you will find its more biased to people getting called iSheep, and all sorts of names for buying a phone... but hey :wink:
breslau
7 Mar 17#417
Unix for people who like to pay an additional £699 for a shiny brushed aluminium case.
prize1
7 Mar 17#418
get your NUS card first :wink:
geolykos
7 Mar 17#419
They can't justify it...not anymore. Quite a few big companies make equally good products for lower prices. Though I gotta say, Microsoft is following Apple's footsteps and they don't have the quality to back it up either.
superfinno
8 Mar 17#420
I've owned both Android and Apple. Our family of four, through our experiences of both, now only have Apple products. Seamlessly work together and last ages. I'm happy to pay the premium (if that's what it really is), for what happens to be more robust products, and a brilliant service (from the Leicester Apple Store). Samsung and other Android products would have to do something remarkable to win us back, or Apple will have to seriously drop the ball. Just my opinion. And this deal (that's why I'm here in the first place!) - good for those in the moment. As always, there's always something else round the corner. It's heat from me. :smiley:
OldCity
8 Mar 172#421
I got accepted for a 2nd Tesco CC for 31months 0% interested free yet I got declined on Apple...it's hit and miss, the credit scoring system is a total bs.
bigmaz
8 Mar 171#422
Agreed, but there you go...
Corasli
8 Mar 17#423
It used to be like that, now you walk in to an apple store, wait for 2 hours. then they take your device, after a week they tell you what they intend to do and then 2 weeks later you get your item back.
Kebabselector
8 Mar 17#424
I get the feeling as I only applied for £428 Barclays turned me down - If I'd ordered a MacBook I'm fairly sure I would've got the credit. Anyway as you said credit scoring is BS. Barclays use experian and my score is 982 (it was 999 the previous day, I guess the -17 points was the Barclays rejection).
winchman
8 Mar 17#425
You can't say that!!
bigmaz
8 Mar 17#426
When did they change that? I recently got my iPhone replaced there and then....
paul.jacobs
8 Mar 17#427
I wouldn't use any kind of credit to purchase a laptop, or anything of value, unless you know you can trust a company to repair a gadget. Your not covered if you have warranty disputes.
A couple of years ago I had to get a credit card refund for a Dell XPS 15 laptop that near enough stopped working, 10+ mins to fire up. Dell told me it was a software issue and I had to pay to get it serviced, even though it was under warranty. It was only running Adobe software and photo mechanic, nothing else. Utter nonsense as I was running the same software on another Dell laptop as well, luckily Amex were great and refunded me, Dell never contested it.
I now use a mac, got one of those NUS cards with one of those online courses and bought in full with a credit card.
paul.jacobs
8 Mar 17#428
I wouldn't use any kind of credit to purchase a laptop, or anything of value. Your not covered if you have warranty disputes.
A couple of years ago I had to get a credit card refund for a Dell XPS 15 laptop that near enough stopped working, 10+ mins to fire up. Dell told me it was a software issue and I had to pay to get it serviced, even though it was under warranty. It was only running Adobe software and photo mechanic, nothing else. Utter nonsense as I was running the same software on another Dell laptop as well, luckily Amex were great and refunded me, Dell never contested it.
I now use a mac, got one of those NUS cards with one of those online courses and bought in full with a credit card.
Sephiroth
8 Mar 17#429
I wouldn't buy anything from Apple after the trick they pulled post Brexit.
Tequila
8 Mar 17#430
fantastic deal.
heat added.
Rockclimber
8 Mar 171#431
I'm triggered. Typical excuse of an ignorant snob "people hate Apple because they can't afford their products". I could buy a new macbook every second day but still hate their **** because of my experience with it's products. Closed system, forced lack of compatibility with other manufacturers' devices, crippling web apps in the past and building products designed to fail and impossible to be fixed. My 3gs caught fire. iPhone 4s was the worst phone I ever had (overwritten backup, power button broken, extremely difficult to replace screen, finally switching off when temperature was still plus 5 degrees) and failed me so many times that I shot it to death with a BB gun. That was the end of Apple experience. I switched to Note 4 and finally felt free!
Apple fans-warriors are people making barely more than others, but are still nobodies and need to boost their egos after watching softly-spoken, pseudo-premium advertisements hoping that they now belong to elite.
The truth is real pirates have rough edges, Apple users have polished UIs and glowing logos of thier mind-controlling cult establishment who makes fools of their own customers.
Think same as other sheep, think Apple.
ddub
8 Mar 17#432
Right Im coming off this website, it costs me a bl00dy fortune! 27" iMac in the post!
bigmaz
10 Mar 17#433
:laughing: What a load of BS
DUNOEboutTENG
10 Mar 17#434
Managed to stop myself ordering a iPhone, was very tempted on this deal but really is no need :laughing:
My contract is up in Sept so shall wait, when a new model is out also and I'll make a decision then
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I know this is not really a deal as such but for me its a much better way of affording Apple products without having to pay a huge amount in one go.
There's a couple of options for the finance either you can go through PayPal Credit (although I have heard bad things about credit with PayPal) or through Barclays which seems the best bet in my opinion. I used them when i got my new iPhone 6 a couple of years ago and didn't have any problems at all.
Representative Example:
£699 Loan Amount
Cash Price £699
Duration of Agreement 12 months
Representative APR 0% APR
Rate of Interest 0% p.a
12 Monthly payments of £58.25
Total Amount Payable £699
Credit subject to status
Ends 14th March 2017
Just thought I would share as anyone looking for any Apple products its a more affordable way to shop.
I am not a Apple fan boy by any means, and I know this is probably going to get plenty of cold votes as well, but hopefully this will be of use to some people :smiley:
Cheers
Andrew
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(And it's a bit foolish to read posts labelled clearly about the very Apple stuff you hate isn't it?)
Don't give them your money, financed or not, remember they were one of the first to up their prices after Brexit despite needing it the least, since they were hardly competitively priced to begin with....
That aside, I have no problem with the deal itself if it helps out people who were going to buy Apple anyway, just don't get how they can justify their pricing.
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Or at least there was when I checked before posting the deal!
Don't give them your money, financed or not, remember they were one of the first to up their prices after Brexit despite needing it the least, since they were hardly competitively priced to begin with....
That aside, I have no problem with the deal itself if it helps out people who were going to buy Apple anyway, just don't get how they can justify their pricing.
(And it's a bit foolish to read posts labelled clearly about the very Apple stuff you hate isn't it?)
Otherwise I suppose this is decent.
Please don't use Paypal. Not even under £100. They dont tell you about this fraud so are they trustworthy?
The 2015 is one heck of a machine.
Build quality of 2015 is exceptional, as no doubt 2016 is.
heat added.
"Very returns-"
• 6.2 All products are sold on the basis that they are for personal, domestic use only.
... so no good for a business purchase.
• http://returnspolicy.net/v/very/
"...The item must not have been used"
Yes you have the "Consumer Rights Act 2015" and the The Consumer Contracts (formerly Distance Selling).
But clearly there may / will be "quibble" with Very returns.
AVOID
Heat added!
Shouldn't have voted out of the EU.
I tend to go sim only at the moment (£10.00 a month unlimitted 10GB data EE) and may buy the 10th anniversary iPhone outright in Sept and sell Sept 2019 for approx £300 to £350 as I 'baby' my iPhones and expect a good resale value.
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/08/19/sim-only-march-consumers-hold-handsets-longer/
Any way you look at it, you are buying on credit, as the zero % interest spent on this deal you could put the money you'd use, away on deposit.
Why dont people save up for a house instead of getting a mortgage, or waiting instead of taking out finance for car?
Credit is not bad tool, its the people who fail to use it properly who are the problem. Get a grip.
Finally, does anyone think this move by Apple will lead to any new offers from other mainstream retailers in the next week or so?
It depends how much you need a phone.
My iPhone 6 is 2 1/2 years old and had a new battery replacement last Sept. I'm holding out for the 10th anniversary iPhone.
Which model do you have, and is it in need of replacing sooner rather than later?
Some folks aren't experiencing any issues many are, in my opinion apple need to address all issues as these machines are not inexpensive.
Also you have to ask what you need from the MacBook Pro and your max budget.
Oh and a Mac runs windows directly or as a virtual machine - that's really bad isn't it.
As for cost - it is expensive, perhaps over priced, but you'll get back half of the original buy price after 3 years of use as long as it's looked after.
This is exactly why I hate them too.
Before you gob off think!
Great post OP, makes it reasonably affordable to everyone.
Just like what you like and shut up about it. Your choice of consumer brands does not make you any better than anyone else.
http://www.apple.com/uk/shop/iphone/iphone-upgrade-program?afid=p238%7Csolb09zUn-dm_mtid_20925ukn39931_pcrid_178269666908_&cid=wwa-uk-kwgo-iphone-slid-0pjWF8mt
Also, having credit isn't actually a bad thing, as long as you don't over extend yourself. Makes getting credit easier if you really need it because you can show that you are capable of repaying it.
P.s. I'm not mentioning the fact that there are only usb-c ports on the device, it is annoying, but I can definitely see it being the future, and it's cool I can charge my Nexus 6p and laptop using the same charger :smiley:
thanks to OP :smile:
Longevity of their products.
Superior macOS operating system.
The overall polish of their products (I have never come across a trackpad as good as what's on their laptops).
• it is impossible to tell an apple refurb from 'factory fresh' apart from the box colour.
• apple give a full 12 months warranty on refurbs and allow apple care to be taken out on refurbs to back up their 100% confidence in the items quality.
Emailed CEO who was another useless person, eventually my bank put a chargeback for a faulty product. Never again these bigheaded narcissist idiots deserve a happy slapping.
They are not even apologetic, I thought I was paying the premium for their service but their service is like any other company now, it is not what it used to be
I have now ordered a galaxy S7 edge and a surface tablet, no more apple's for me.
I'm writing this here to warn those who think they are paying the premium for quality and service, it is none existent.
My 2011 macbook is starting to die a little now, so was wanting to upgrade anyway.
In fairness, one would be better off buying anything like this via a credit card: one can pay it at 0% for a longer term and get Section 75 protection for it should it fail (which one would need given it's an Apple).
Thats insane. Im sure last yr without discount it was sub £1k.
All imported stuff will cost more, that's the price of 'freedom'
if you require this to afford an apple device then save your money and sort your priorities
if you have the cash then the deal is surely just the interest that the cash would have gathered in your account which is not worth much at all
not knocking apple just the 'deal' :wink:
You can get this sort of service with John Lewis as well.
I get your point I just like to be pedantic.
Why does every apple/microsoft thread turn into a who likes what thread?
All this technology and the human race is still picking a tribe, only difference is now its verbal fights on the internet instead of clubs and spears in a field.
I like the look of the new MBP, i like that they went all USB C too. I don't own any apple products at the moment. Use a surface pro 4 when i need to move around and a PC in the house because i like to play games.
Maybe I'm just too poor.
Examples, Apple phones continued to use dual core CPUs long after competitors were on quad core and above, they typically have less RAM (2GB vs 3 to 4GB) and their computers rarely have dedicated graphics and if they do they are never anywhere near what you can get on the equivalent PC system. Yes not everyone needs or cares about those things but for those that do, Apple is poor value...
I posted this deal before. It was great for us got our daughter the latest iPad for xmas which at the time we didn't have the lump sum to pay.
Any ideas when the next MacBook upgrade is going to be?
Granted it's not always used the proper way if people that genuinely can't afford stuff use it, but if spending £3k on Apple products why on earth would you use cash when an interest free option is available which would allow you to keep your £3k in a (relatively) decent interest rated account/investment? That £3k could earn you at £1/2/500 depending on what you do with it over the year effectively knocking off that amount from the original cost.
Don't be too quick to jump to old fashioned conclusions, it's always wise to use interest free and keep the cash earning interest, any decent economist would tell you that.
Or is there a stigma attached that our silly society has created that stops people doing it? :smirk:
Get a 0% spending credit card, you then get 2 years or more of 0%, which is a typical time scale of phone contracts anyway. Can also use it to buy an Apple laptop. They are silly prices, but hold more value second hand, so this brings down actual amount in real terms.
I just upgraded my 4 year old MacBook and sold it for over 500 which still works and is super fast still & extremely reliable. I'm not sure anything else upholds its value like apple products. They just work and integrate flawlessly between iOS/Mac devices.
Oh and after 4 years on Mac I tried out a Alienware and Gigabyte laptop before getting a 2016 MacBook Pro. Guess what? Both those had issues especially Alienware with terrible light bleeding/overheating and "awesome" Indian tech support.
I have a Macbook Air which I have all but stopped using, use Macs at work and I wouldn't recommend them to an average Joe. The cost is too high for regular usage scenarios.
Even then, if you are a creative type, then unless you're using Final Cut Pro heavily (and if you are then why?) then a Mac is no better than any similar spec PC you can buy for less than half the price.
Also without dedicated graphics in most units you can't even play anything more demanding than point and click games or older AAA titles.
Simply 'being able to afford' Mac is not justification for owning one or multiple.
:stuck_out_tongue:
I still have a 6 year old laptop that cost me £600 working fine with dedicate graphics, intel processor, i added an SSD of course. How much would the equivalent mac book cost and how much would it drop in price in 6 years?
If it cost £1k and is worth £300 then i would have lost out since i can't lose more than the £600 my old laptop cost.
Either way I think both phones are fairly expensive and probably going to be even more this year.
Now this game is change - on the market you have some many devices with same quality materials or better
Samsung got new tablet Galaxy Tab S3 and I will have it - Some will say o it is not Ipad Pro ? But I do not see anymore why Ipad is Better
it was time when IOS was better than android , but this game is lost for Apple
Android now have much more options and it is cheaper Do not see why you want IOS with locked functions
Try to copy movie to Ipad need to use Itunes Where on Android just connect and copy
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I don't even need to connect my iPad to transfer a movie to it; I can just AirDrop it directly from my Mac wirelessly and choose the app I want to open it in. Easy!
As bad as vegans Apple fan boys.
I have never actually needed tech support for any phone, including the iphones i've had. Not had an iphone since the 4s though so maybe things have changed.
Android fan boy? Please enlighten me as to where this was made clear? I never mentioned mobile phones.
You of course have contradicted yourself by not backing up any of your claims about usability, price to value ratio.
I'm saying you're full of shiiit3 mate. So bore off.
Iphones/Ipads/Macs
Cons
1) Very expensive
2) Lower spec than PC/phone/tablet equivalent eg the samsung edge 7 has a bigger screen than the iphone 7 plus but its smaller than the iphone 7. Also, its a much higher spec phone - screen, processor, features. Apples tablets are better though
3) Limited configuration possible
4) Little or no upgrading
5) Limited software
6) Poor for gaming
7) Expensive accessories
8 No touchscreen on macs or mac air
9) Poor support - 90 days for iphones/ipads
10) lousy warranty - 1 year
Pros
1) OS is much more stable than Windows and you do get fewer issues
2) One provider for the OS and hardware; PC's will have several and loads if its custom built. his could be a con too if its a simple issue as youd have to return/send the whole item which you might not with PCs eg faulty screen on MACs
3) Great resale value
4) Look nice, nicer than ,most if not all PCs
5) longetivity - can be used for years, unlike pcs that need a refresh or replacement every 2 years or so, but then again who wants to use 5+ year old tech
6) Shops are nice and handy if you have one near. If not ,support is terrible (in my experience, which is part why i ditched Apple-"Hi my iphone doesnt work after your last update", "you are outside your 90 days complimentary (sic) support, you will have to pay £79 to proceed" "WTF!!?? is that so you can explain why you have stuffed my phone and to fix the issue YOUR company caused")
Regards
- log in to PayPal
- click the cog at the top right of the screen
- click on the payments tab
- scroll to the third option "paying online"
- you have the option to choose from "PayPal Credit" or "Choose a funding source at checkout"
when I checkout at a site using PayPal, it asks me to select a funding option, it does not default to PayPal Credit
PayPal Credit is still governed by UK Consumer Credit Act which will include Section 75
It's not.
only thing good apple can be praised for is there phone being able to keep up with speed which is at a very big cost to the OS being so locked down and dull, but still props for that but not my cup of tea rather get same performance but with fast charging and dozens of over features iphones don;t have :smile:
Such a shame I would of purchased if I could of used my education discount.
Cons
1) Very expensive - So is the alternative equivelant, e.g. Dell XPS, Surface Pro etc
2) Lower spec PC equivalent - Does not need such high specs as the software is optimised run the hardware smoothly
3) Limited configuration possible - see above
4) Little or no upgrading - Agreed, but so are other tablets and other laptops
5) Limited software - Explain? App store has the widest selection for iPad/iPhone, Mac, you can run Windows, so actually has more software options
6) Poor for gaming - Agreed
7) Expensive accessories - Agreed
8 No touchscreen on macs or mac air - Agreed, although don't see that as a major issue
9) Poor support - 90 days for iphones/ipads - Utter BS
10) lousy warranty - 1 year - Not any worse than others, plus Apple Care is good value
Pros
1) OS is much more stable than Windows and you do get fewer issues
2) One provider for the OS and hardware; PC's will have several and loads if its custom built. his could be a con too if its a simple issue as youd have to return/send the whole item which you might not with PCs eg faulty screen on MACs
3) Great resale value
4) Look nice, nicer than ,most if not all PCs
5) longetivity - can be used for years, unlike pcs that need a refresh or replacement every 2 years or so, but then again who wants to use 5+ year old tech - well this has just proved the point that they are actually better value for money, plus 5 year old Mac will still run great
I bought a Mac 2 years ago from a deal on here and was moving from Windows after 16 years, everyone said not to bother but I have never looked back. For a slightly higher cost I have a better more reliable system, all Windows dev software I use has been replaced with similar/equivalent software on the Mac and it all just works without drama.
I sometimes have to use a Windows 10 laptop and it frustrates me so much now to use Windows that I nearly end up smashing the thing!!
Not for everyone, but if you work in dev/software then the Mac is a good move. My iPads work much better than my kids Android tablets as well. :smiley:
I think that was the commenters attempt at sarcasm, who knows :stuck_out_tongue:
Thanks to the OP for posting this, it is a deal and I used this last year to get a brand new MacBook through Barclays over 12 months.
Yes I was lucky enough to have the cash at the time but it is nice to be able to spend over 12 months so you don't drop a lump sum in oneYes I do prefer Apple products but also have android devices in my household as well as a MS surface. Personally I use my MacBook the most as i find the experience more enjoyable.
Also to the person asking does it stack with student discount, yes it does and it did last year for me as I got 3 years apple care and a discount off my MacBook before the finance amount. You need to go through the Unidays Apple Higher education portal through Unidays (Student discount page)
EDIT: Just found it, apparently you can. https://www.apple.com/uk/financing/consumer.html
Meh :disappointed:
Ok, I'm going back :laughing:
Back to your natural habitat :stuck_out_tongue::smile: (see ya round Misc)
Expressed better than I could-
http://www.cultofmac.com/439968/why-do-some-folks-hate-apple-its-complicated/
"Relax … It is just a phone.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rwsuXHA7RA
https://youtu.be/4wpInnqHUXo
iPads, imo, beat any android or windows device and so does the iMac. Why can't anyone else have an opinion without being jumped on?
Manners and courtesy are missing severely.
Let's not get their high end stuff mixed up with their common as muck and average at best handsets.
That is quite literally the polar opposite of buying the best stuff out there.
since when do you need a new pc every two years lol?
I own a dell xps 13 and still use my thinkpad x230 more because its a solid machine and is over 10 years old, i Can't see anyone using 10 year old macs still
Would love to but a new MacBook Pro but the drop in the exchange rates has made them even more eye-wateringly expensive.
http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/credit-cards/best-0-credit-cards
yes a 300£ laptop is most likely going to be binned in 5 years, but a mac is not 300£ i would bloody hope it will last longer then 5 years
Well having experience in both for over 25 years, I think I can say I have a feel for it by now.... More than I can say for most Apple haters who have never touched an Apple... I go on fact, not on what I hear on the grapevine and go with an agenda to hate something I know nothing about
I never said they were cheap junk.
I just dispute the cost effectiveness that is being claimed.
I personally think the macbook pro is a very nice laptop, i like that they went all USB-C, i dislike the touchbar, i use the function keys constantly so it would become a problem not having them. I don't think the hardware merits the high price personally. However if people buy it for mac OS then they don't have many options.
I'd be interested to know what makes this notebook worth the money unless you only care about using Mac OS.
The lenovo X1 carbon is cheaper btw, with a better processor and integrated graphics. Also bigger battery.
The Mac has a better screen at the bottom end though. The base lenovo only has lower resolution but is a bit bigger at 14 inches.
15.5 hours of battery claimed, can't see any battery tests yet so can't confirm that, it needs to beat 8 hours on the macbook pro... the old x1 carbon with a smaller battery did around 8 hours.
Is it really hard to believe it can be a better laptop? Surely if the macbook pro was that good you would have one?
Anyway, If someone is talking BS to me, I should just say, "yeah, thats right mate"?
I'm not really interested in what you think the battery life is going to be i only really care about what it actually is.
A friend dropped theirs a couple of weeks ago on to concrete and the screen smashed, it happens. You don't do your argument any favours by being insulting, especially when people know the screens smash and have seen it happen as I have.
Released 2012 - as for old Macs my 2006 Mac Mini is still running as my iTunes server at home.
If you give me a day or two i can create an interpretive dance routine which will explain the differences between these two computers in a beautiful and emotional way without relying on stupid facts and numbers.
Just need to find my muse.
He was actually saying that the iPhone in particular smashes with the slightest of knocks, which is BS. Read first please :smiley:
I'll pick up a watch using my money from my isa instead, just use that for effectively a 1.5% loan (as I wont get interest on it!).
I didn't bother trying Paypal's 0% as I cant stand they way they operate. And to thank Barclays I closed down 4 accounts with them yesterday.
Hang on a minute while i google cheap camera v particular SLR to confirm you haven't missed anything...
Wow you are correct google said your cheap camera is better than that particular SLR.
Anyway, you are boring me now with your weak arguments. I'll keep on with life un blinkered, choosing the right device for me, wether it be Apple, Samsung, Lenovo, Microsoft. While you march on with your biased agendas :smiley:
This will go over your head like most things but at least i amuse myself.
Well done with finding some numbers that don't prove anything... Takes a special person to come up with what you did, very special :wink:
Can confirm disappointed.
Anyway, what's wrong with paying using cash?
Next you will be googling for information and posting it like it means something to people.
Don't feel sorry for me, I am perfectly fine :smiley: unlike the Google guy :laughing: a few screws loose I think
Is my issue that i have never formed an emotional attachment to any of these things?
You keep saying stuff like"you have lost it mate" but really all i was looking for was for someone to show me why apple is more cost effective. What you have said amounts to"it's more cost effective because i say so now stop showing me facts and figures to prove otherwise".
Also you have said how biased i am, i don't really know what i am biased towards or do you think i'm just generally biased away from apple?
I have said quite a few times now that i am a fan of some apple hardware, i like the new macbook pro for its all USB-C implementation, but that doesn't mean i will defend it's price at all costs(pun intended) or refuse to acknowledge it isn't the best hardware for everyone.
Also when people want to make claims about something being the better option price wise i am inclined to want some proof, maybe it's because i'm an accountant and we just like the numbers.
I'm sure for some people apple is by far the best option, but i think for most it isn't the case.
If you want to argue that the macbook is worth more because of mac os then that is your opinion and i can't really disagree with what you need a notebook for. But if someone says that one piece of hardware costs the same as another piece of hardware then i will look into that and see if its true. It wasn't and the figures on each manufacturers website said as such, not argos, not john lewis but both manufacturers.
Saying that a ferrari 458 is slower than a fiesta is something you can check and disprove, you saying a certain cheap car is faster than a much more expensive sports car isn't something that can be checked, its too vague which is my problem with your silly example.
If you want backup for my figures go to the lenovo website and the apple website and they are there, its really really simple to do.
Apologies if i have explained this like i am explaining to a 5 year old, i can only work with what's in front of me.
But apple also charge over £1200 for a macbook with an intel m3 at 1.1Ghz. Is that really a sensible purchase for anybody? Is it made of adamantium?
The macbook pro is much more sensible.
The 'deal' here is the 0% interest finance, and for that reason I'm voting hot. If you don't want to buy anything from Apple then move along, don't get into an argument. This deal simply isn't for you. Broadly speaking though, 0% interest on a desirable product is a hot deal.
Oh and i voted hot too 0% is a good deal if you need an apple product obviously.
If you want Android, buy Android. If you want Apple, buy Apple.
If the deal is for Tesco chicken soup, does everyone argue that Sainsbury's is better?
Do you see Apple owners going on to every Android phone thread and throw their toys out the pram?
So why does every Apple thread end up with Android owners doing that?
Yes, Apple is expensive but come the time you want to sell then a year old iPhone will be worth more than a year old Sony/Samsung so it balances out.
If you don't want or do not like Apple then go somewhere else, why post on a deal about Apple?
Just for the record, I have an IPhone at the moment, prior to that I had an S7 Edge, before that several other iPhone and Android phones so I have experienced all of them.
I don't agree with anyone that categorically states that one is better than the other, they all have good points and bad points.
However, and rather controversially, what I do think is that jealousy plays a large part in these arguments or the need to justify that a lower priced product is better than a higher priced product. Just my own opinion obviously and everyone is entitled to there own, I just wish if you are not interested in a deal you would just leave it alone.
are you saying:
it doesn't weigh a tonne
its the fastest
should you have googled first?
If you have the cash its better than this.
Do yourself all a favour duck this off and get an android phone it'll be better and far cheaper voting sub zero
The 2015 model does not have any of these widespread problems, is almost as fast in real world tests and is cheaper.
Sure you do miss out on the touch bar, however I don't think most people will miss it.
The 2016 MacBook Pro was a total balls up, it is not what one would expect of an Apple Product.
My Radeon 450 touch bar model has been working fine for the past two months other than the already stated third party dongle wifi issue. I'm sure it'll out last any current windows pos. It's better than any similar priced windows laptop.
http://www.apple.com/uk/legal/statutory-warranty/
if you buy apple apple product from third party if anything happens you have to deal with them not apple that makes it more complicated, So I think few pounds that you save from third party seller is worth investing for longer insurance directly with apple. my 2 cents :smiley:
Had you said laptop or MacBook then apple has always out performed battery wise any laptop I've had - though have now switched to an iMac
I was one of the of the first people in the UK to have an iPhone (went to the USA and bought one rather than waiting for UK release) and my home is very Apple centric.
In short I'm about as far from an Apple hater as one could get.
I'm glad your new MacBook Pro is working for you and that you are not concerned with the decreased battery life against the previous generation.
I hope it continues to function perfectly, but there are a lot of users who have had issues, one of my colleagues has had a problem with the keyboard and the issues are actually wider spread than you might wish to believe.
I can get 8 hours of web browsing which is good enough, had 46% battery left, I streamed an episode of Mr Robot, around 3 hours of web browsing and downloading stuff before the battery was critically low.
And don't forget only barely over half the population made that choice (to leave EU), it was not a overwhelming majority by any means. Personally, I didn't decide either way, as I didn't want the choice to make, it's a decision the prime minister should have made rather than farming it out to the people IMHO but I digress....
Now there's irony for you :smiley:
My point is this, paying a premium for their service or products is not worth it. I have been using macbooks since 2001 and iphones since 2009 so I know what they were and what they are now you d.mbo.
A couple of years ago I had to get a credit card refund for a Dell XPS 15 laptop that near enough stopped working, 10+ mins to fire up. Dell told me it was a software issue and I had to pay to get it serviced, even though it was under warranty. It was only running Adobe software and photo mechanic, nothing else. Utter nonsense as I was running the same software on another Dell laptop as well, luckily Amex were great and refunded me, Dell never contested it.
I now use a mac, got one of those NUS cards with one of those online courses and bought in full with a credit card.
A couple of years ago I had to get a credit card refund for a Dell XPS 15 laptop that near enough stopped working, 10+ mins to fire up. Dell told me it was a software issue and I had to pay to get it serviced, even though it was under warranty. It was only running Adobe software and photo mechanic, nothing else. Utter nonsense as I was running the same software on another Dell laptop as well, luckily Amex were great and refunded me, Dell never contested it.
I now use a mac, got one of those NUS cards with one of those online courses and bought in full with a credit card.
heat added.
Apple fans-warriors are people making barely more than others, but are still nobodies and need to boost their egos after watching softly-spoken, pseudo-premium advertisements hoping that they now belong to elite.
The truth is real pirates have rough edges, Apple users have polished UIs and glowing logos of thier mind-controlling cult establishment who makes fools of their own customers.
Think same as other sheep, think Apple.
My contract is up in Sept so shall wait, when a new model is out also and I'll make a decision then