No. You don't even need to bother buying a GPU if you're editing video, CPU power is way more important and the built in Intel graphics are more than adequate. Unless you're in a professional environment buying a fancy GPU for video editing is pointless.

Pair this with a £100-odd freesync monitor and you're have a sweet set-up capable of playing practically everything at 1080 res

Additional pictures of card:


Really nice design IMO, nice view of heatpipes, backplate included and importantly a nice 8-pin power connection for voltage OC.




The fans unclip easily for maintenance or replacement - no RMA needed for busted fan blades!

Nice features.

wow ok

So many GFX cards coming down. Originally I was going to go for the 8GB version:

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/sapphire-amd-radeon-rx-480-8gb-graphics-card-199-99-amazon-2607595

then some people say this is better then the rx r480 8GB version

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/asus-rx470-strix-gaming-oc-4gb-novatech-for-159-98-delivered-2610214

I think some googling before I decided. Damn!

Have some heat OP

Can everybody just play nicely?

AMD, the people that that bring free adaptive sync, free 3d technologies, open games works and better value for money gpus... dam cold

Been watching this,it's been going down a couple £'s a day across a range of outlets just like the powercolor the other week.
Hold your nerve it will go lower.

XFX cold. Too many X's

Pair this with a £100-odd freesync monitor and you're have a sweet set-up capable of playing practically everything at 1080 res

:confused: this is 40 Quid cheaper than average 8GB RX480, but only 3-5fps slower.

Great price, heat added. Only thing I would say is that 8gb cards make a difference at higher resolution gaming. Raises the debate of spending extra £20 or so to increase the longevity of your card if you ever plan on moving to a higher resolution monitor, or having a go with high res texture packs, like the recent fallout 4 one.

Lovely jubbly

Going slightly off topic here, but for anyone looking for a GPU that doesn't need a separate power connector and draws no more than about 75w, is the 1050ti the best option?

Just added some detail to the first post.

+Card is nice looking and has a backplate, good if you have it in view.
+8-pin power connector, to squeeze the life out of the card you can experiment with voltage (they have very good thermal protection so not very risky)
+Clip-off fans, perfect for cleaning the card, or replacing/upgrading the fans, they do LED fans also. I wish my Fury had this (swap) feature...
+Dual BIOS perfect for flashing or running different boost configs.
+VRM cooling, proper thermal pads and heat-sink.
+3 year warranty.

Shows how bonkers the prices of graphics cards are when there are 470's at a higher price!

My only concern with this card is that I've seen reviews which say that it runs hot and noisy.

Still at least prices are finally starting to come down. Heat given ;0)

Oh. And I would personally go for the 1050 rather than the Ti version. I think its far better value (although I agree with derp).

These can't be flashed to 8GB anymore can they?

Agreed...with a £50 premium!

I'd advise anyone looking at the RX 480s to check out absolutelyhardcoreoverclocking on youtube. Buildzoid's done a few pcb analysis videos (so none for the RX 470) :disappointed:

I'm not in the market for one but this review by JayTwoCents painted it in a very good light!

Does this have led lighting? Tempted to sell my gtx 970 for this.

Interestingly you can buy multiple and save on discount. Anyone interested in a share deal? Buying 2 alone makes the card 140 each 30 cheaper than list price!!

Heat from me.

I do like an XFX card.

If I was building a new rig around this card I'd go this route currently:

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/tkBgqk
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/tkBgqk/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-7400 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (£168.59 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£39.98 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: PNY Anarchy 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£39.55 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Silicon Power Silm S55 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£41.19 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.94 @ Aria PC)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£29.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Cooler Master B500 ver.2 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply (£40.49 @ Ebuyer)
Other: XFX Radeon RX 480 graphics card (£170.75)
Total: £566.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-01 16:07 GMT+0000

Erm... Guys

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sapphire-Polaris-FreeSync-Express-Graphics/dp/B01J1J7WOM/ref=sr_1_15?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1485966798&sr=1-15&keywords=rx+480

That's a 460, it showed up in your search results for 480 - always double check what you buy from searches.

How does this stack up against a GTX 1060?

Is this better than a PALIT GeForce 980 GTX OC?

Ah yeah VAT always screws me over

Don't laugh, but I have a rubbish 4350 radeon thing that is integrated into the mobo and is starting to play up.

I need to replace the graphics card with something else to stop some odd pixelation issue.

If you just wanted to blow just £30 on a used gfx card, what would you get? Something like a Radeon 7750 would easily meet my needs of web browsing, occasional youtube video.

I have an 8gb version of this card and so far I'm really impressed and happy with it.
Why deal shows up as expired? I checked and it is still in stock and available to buy.

Speaking to the MODs to get it live again.

100% OT but I'll save you the trouble. Your upgrade isnt an upgrade, save, wait a bit and buy a nvidia 1050 as cheap as you can. Maybe you find a deal here for one but dont buy less then that really.
If you barely use the PC you can buy almost any card I guess also, I expect your problem is software based though

18 available it says now. XFX warranty in the UK is good? anyone have experience ?

Got experience of ballicom doing this before.
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/powercolor-red-dragon-radeon-rx-480-8gb-gddr5-amd-radeon-rx-480-8gb-gddr5-153-pounds-2604077?page=3#comments

I managed to get a flubit offer in before all the amazon prices went back up for £165 but don't like the reviews i can find on the seller(which were mainly there e-bay store) :disappointed:.

I dropped them an email but they're a decent outfit so don't expect them to be moving the goalposts.

If only amd had something as good as nvidias gamestream, would buy in a heartbeat. Granted their cards are a generation behind nvidia in terms of performance per watt but we really need competition.

Take it you don't think much of Relive?Never used it myself still waiting for my 1st amd card but looked good.
http://www.amd.com/en-gb/innovations/software-technologies/radeon-software/gaming/radeon-relive

Why would you buy a 1050 just to watch youtube vids of cats?!
I'm guessing their 4350 worked fine for their needs before.
Have a look for a 4670 on ebay for a tenner or so or a 4550, 5450, otherwise yeah go for a 7750.
Just check that the mobo is definitely PCI, the 4000 series were the last I think to have AGP support, so even though its integrated it might well have a motherboard rocking an older slot.

Pixelation issue in my experience has been due to either overheating of the GPU, or a power supply issue. I'm guessing you've tried the old reinstall drivers routine. Maybe check that the heat sinks aren't covered in crap and are still held securely.

I'm a cheapskate and use moonlight a lot on my phone when using my 3d headset, its the only app that can offer latency low enough to be comfortable.

Have a look at a 650ti

Two points to make about your plans :
1) Save yourself cash on that kaby lake i5 a and get a intel g4560 - myou'd save about £100.
See here - and this is with a rsx 470
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dichjs9HXTg&t=156s

2) Before you buy that skylake h110M motherboard, remember the motherboard bios will need to be flashed with the bios thats compatible with kaby lake processors. i.e. Make sure you have access to a skylake cpu or know a friend or a computer shop that can do this for you.

I am interested in looking at a gaming rig so interested in comments as I too was looking at changing the CPU - but unsure that G4560 is the way to go?? From an initial google it does look like theres very good reason you are saving £100 on it.

Do you know is this good for editing 4k videos ? Or what I should change in this setup ? Any suggestions ? Thank you guys

Is 4gb enough for 1440p? Also don't be shocked if you don't get one, ballicom don't have an accurate stock system.

1440p Minecraft/CSGO/Dots/WoW/e-sports, absolutely. 1440p Star Citizen/Forza Horizon 3, nope not without big quality compromises (low/low-medium settings).

Very hard to answer you accurately without knowing the games in question.

If I wanted to hit 50-70+ FPS in 1440p I'd be wanting the RX 480 GTR 8GB card or similar top spec card, or a Fury based card until the 490 materialises.

I'd be more confident throwing this card 1080p games and hitting decent frames. Though as above it's all game dependant.

Depends on the software used, but assuming it threads correctly I'd be wanting an i7 quad with HT, so 8 logical cores.

I do my drone footage on an i7 4770K (4790K even better) and that does it nicely.

Perhaps post something on an editing specific board, there will be a sub-reddit if you search http://www.reddit.com, ask for some recommendations.

Thanks, agreed. Certainly no requirement for anything more expensive/capable.

Power is a good quality xfx 450w unit and new drivers do nothing. I haven't checked the heat sinks though - good call.

Will look at those other cheaper cards you mention, because your right in saying the 4350 didn't cause an issue, however thought a little more grunt wouldn't be a bad thing.

I have a 7850 and my most demanding game is xcom2!

More than sufficient in that case.

Run it through a Heaven benchmark cycle and see if you can force the issue to occur. Use something like HWmonitor or AIDA64 to monitor the fanspeeds and temps and see if you can correlate the numbers.

Assuming the fanspeeds are sufficient to cool it, it may be some cracked solder or something in the chip that only becomes apparent under certain conditions (I.e it's making a connection but not of sufficient quality).

Tried an air duster on the card to clear any dust?

In line with others, this is overkill. In my Htpc I have a 630GT low profile from years ago, fine for transcoding media and would cost you pennies now.

I'd say a Nvidia GTX 560 Ti is around the best card you can get for your money in that price bracket, assuming you have room for a dual slot graphics card and have a PSU that can power it. There's the non-Ti version for £28+2.50PP on CEX at the moment. A Nvidia GTX 460 or ATI 5850 can be had for similar money, but the GTX 560 is a good chunk quicker. I'd recommend using http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_list.php - sort in in rank order, then check ebay for sold prices and see what best fits your needs. If you're single slot or low profile then let me know and I'll have another quick look :smiley:

Is this card going to be enough to hook up to my UE48JU6400 4k TV for gaming?

it doesnt need power to hook to a tv,

But it cant play 4k Games on most games, maybe a few games you get Low setting 4k

I have the XFX GTR black edition which is the top of the pile - laptopsdirect circa £251 less the Which? trial subscription (was £20 discount, now £15). They still have the product numbers mixed up though (the standard GTR and black editions have the code swopped - I phoned up to highlight the issue) so I had to ensure I received a card with the correct product code - rx-480p8dba6. Topcashback wiped out the additional postage cost.

http://www.xfxforce.com/en-us/products/amd-radeon-rx-400-series/rx-480-gtr-black-8gb-dd-led-rx-480p8dba6

Umm... You suggestions entirely depend on the kind of games you play.

For example, even an heavily overclocked G4560 will bottleneck a RX 480 in CPU-heavy and open-world games like GTA V, Fallout 4, The Witcher 3. An i3 or i5 is a better pairing for an RX 480 in DX11 games at least.

When I spec machines for people I tend to build them with extra headroom in the CPU department, since you should upgrade your GPU every 3-5 years, but your CPU and the main platform for your rig every 5-8 years.

No. You don't even need to bother buying a GPU if you're editing video, CPU power is way more important and the built in Intel graphics are more than adequate. Unless you're in a professional environment buying a fancy GPU for video editing is pointless.

The guys budget is bigger than the budget builds that Im suggesting. And there isn't much real world difference when playing games between the g4560 and its vastly more expensive i5 or i3 especially in 1080p when pair with a RX470, RX480 or a gtx 1060 GB. Those vids I linked shows that.
Having said all this, my advice would be told hold out till march and wait for the Ryzen chips. More competition and hopefully this will drive better pricing and choise for customers.

Looking to upgrade my gtx 670, tempted.

Had shipping notification, so I guess this time I'm getting one.

RyZen will initially launch with the higher end i7 competing products I believe. May need to wait until Q3 for the lower end stuff.

I suspect much of the reasoning is the Xbox Scorpio is supposedly using the same chip which has been pretty much AMD's only profitable computing arm this generation.

If they missed supplying Ms there would be some very harsh ramifications I'd imagine.

I'm looking forward to seeing RyZen and Vega in action this year. Pending the performance I may upgrade my 4770k for one.

11 left according to the site. Was 19 this morning.

review says its the warmest rx 480 out there

https://www.slant.co/topics/6904/viewpoints/5/~amd-radeon-rx-480-card~xfx-rx-480p8dfa6-8gb#title

the Asus ROG they say is the best - https://www.slant.co/topics/6904/viewpoints/7/~amd-radeon-rx-480-card~asus-rog-strix-radeon-rx-480-8gb-oc-edition

Different card.

The card I posted does run warm having read a number of YouTube comments, but it's well within spec.

Allegedly the best way to run it is with a 2600RPM fan limit set within the driver (using wattman) and even under stress it stays within temp specs whilst not being overly noisy - 3000RPM apparently is too loud for many.

Not sure if things have changed with drivers and new firmware from a heat perspective either, with ReLive you have options with the Chill feature and also some optimisation of the chipset.

This card uses the reference PCB which is why it runs warmer than a longer custom PCB like the one in the GTR.

Was 11 when I purchased around 8:15, so has nobody else ordered all day?

ye i run the powercolor 480 8gb on 2800rpm when it hits the target while playing resident evil 7 , **** gets hot if not done properly otherwise

8 left seemingly.

7 now but I still don't trust it, they had around 40 of the 8Gb cards left the other week when I ordered but then said they didn't have enough stock to fulfil the order.

Maybe they employ a chimpanzee to play with the numbers all day.

One thing is for sure, the number is going down consistently, not up.

My PC is just next to me, so I can hear it if I play on a low volume, but nothing too disturbing. My case is not the best though (my PC is HP H9-1250ea), so others experience may differ quite a bit.
I think playing something like Fallout 4 in 1080p and everything on ultra it does not go past mid 60-s. Really happy with the card. Love the removable fans, just for the ease of the dusting out alone, so recommend it.

Actually Ryzen will launch in March with a full stack to comptet against i3, i5, and i7 - 4C/4T 4C/8T 8C/8T 8C/16T there is also a rumor of a 6C/12T
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That's what I did, and dude - totally worth it, as now I can play any of my games on ultra settings and it does make a big difference.
I got £80 for my 670 and I'm quite happy with it, because even though it is still reasonably powerful card, if you look on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUOrnp2PjK4 (I know it's 680 vs 1050ti, but unless I'm totally wrong, then 670 should score somewhere between 1050 and 1050ti). My point is GTX 1050 new only costs around £100, so I think my £80 for 670 was a fare deal.
So my suggestion is go for it, while you can still make a something from your 670! Good luck!

I also read that article, but nowhere does it confirm your claim.

Everything I have read up until this point has suggested that the top end chip will be on sale first and this is also true of Vega with their 1080 competing GPU landing first.

Of course it makes sense because they want benchmarks to sell the chip.

We'll see but I'm going to lean with the media and I'm expecting an i7ish product with varying amount cores.

Now 15 in stock, the chimpanzees are back in the office :laughing:

How many people have actually ordered one?

I did, mine has shipped.

And yet again down to 8 & back to 15,never ending supply?Just can't bring myself to trust them again.

Definitely strange up/down affair, but they're trustworthy.

https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.ballicom.co.uk?utm_medium=Trustbox&utm_source=Carousel

They may have a good rating but they don't have a reliable stock system, this was proven last week when they said they had items in the warehouse that they later admitted they did not and were hoping to back order.

try here free shipping so its just about the same price as ballicom - http://www.ilgs.net/xfx-rx-480p4lfb6-radeon-rx-480-4gb-gddr5-graphics-card?gclid=CPPDyP2589ECFaeT7QodSsgPkw

^^^ the price of the link i posted went up within just 30 mins wtf? it was £176.66 incl vat but after 30 mins it became £211.99 incl vat wow just wow

Incl. VAT: £211.99

14 now in stock at ballicom, can't help wondering how many they buy at a time.

Just sent them a mail, got a response in 15 minutes - explains things somewhat:

-----------------------------------

Message for: General Sales;
Telephone:
Email:[email protected]
Message:
Hello,

I'm interested in buying 2 of the RX 480 you have listed under quick code - 1288469 - can you tell me how many you actually have in stock? The reason being over the last 24 hours I've noticed the number go up/down/up/down, is this a real time stock level or is there some inaccuracy in that count?

Thank you.

----------------------------

Hi,

We receive a few a day and book them in accordingly. At the moment we have around 13 left.
We are expecting a further 9 more units today.

It goes down because people buy them. Don't forget we list on multiple marketplaces, not just our own website.
It goes up because we receive a delivery and book them in.

Kind Regards,
xxxxx

Looks like they hold limited stock of the item or perhaps dropship from their supplier. Little to worry about in any case but perhaps explains the deal you mentioned, if they takes more orders than their supplier can fulfil it's liable to happen.

Seem legit.

Mine should be here this afternoon :smile:
Was torn between waiting for another 8Gb deal but I rarely game anyway. This would be used for 1440p on my monitor for games as basic as xcom2 and on a steam link at 1080p for more arcade styles. As I'm OK with the 7850 I currently have I guess this will be a fine upgrade for my needs, wish I'd got the £150 8Gb version last week though!

By all means give us some info when you have it, interested to see how it performs.

Any miners on here?

i looked into that as just got rx470. but uptodate stuff suggested need AISC?? card as graphics cards not profitable anymore

lol

Last time I looked at ethereum mining (when I had my 290) the UK energy prices were largely prohibitive when you balanced it up. Try running your figures through a mining calculator - but you'd be better off getting a paper round.

There are plenty of GPU algo coins you can mine

:wink:

Thanks for your advice

On that point although the 290 is quicker for mining it used 2x as much energy, so 480 may stack up better.

All I know is that people who mine with these cards use a custom Bios: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mwb67g4skGM

Not entirely true. Some programs can levy a graphics card. However an extra £170 into the CPU choice (a nice i7 so an extra 4 threads to play with) would be the smarter choice if you don't wish to game. Not a bad system you've managed to put together though :laughing:

So... basically the same thing I already said.

Will do, although its bound to be a massive improvement on what I have!

You're both correct, but it depends on the requirements. CPU is without question imperative, but if he's dealing with 4K in h.265/HEVC and editing on the fly having GPU decoding will significantly reduce his labour times. I do mine in Power Director and have my GPU acceleration enabled - which needs a card of suitable means.

i wanna try the new i3 7100 gonna spend another 250 on the full bundle

21 now.

Hint: Post #93

:man:

On tenterhooks,did it come?

Won't ship to Ireland or Northern Ireland unfortunately.
Real pity.

Ordered it, chose free delivery and it came the next day!

Yup! Windows was playing up so did a reinstall, steam installed and a games downloading now so we'll see.

Download the 17.1.2 drivers and downloads Valley benchmark.

https://unigine.com/products/benchmarks/valley/

What does it score?

Will do. Installed the drivers, will get the benchmark. For reference this is my system spec:

Radeon Software Version - 17.1.2
Radeon Software Edition - Crimson ReLive
Graphics Chipset - Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics
Memory Size - 4096 MB
Memory Type - GDDR5
Core Clock - 1266 MHz
Windows Version - Windows 10 (64 bit)
System Memory - 8 GB
CPU Type - Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz

Interesting to get your view on the noise before going on to wattman and setting the fan ceiling to 2600.

You going to attempt any OC?

50.4fps
2108 score
Extreme HD setting

No idea how that stacks up? Not even looked at the settings yet.

Not too noisy. Bit worse than my old windforce 7850 but I'd spent a while perfecting the fans on that!

anybody get the ghost recon wildlands and sniper ghost warrior beta yesterday? plays smooth on the rx 480 was on it until 4am and i dont even play for that long

What settings/Res? Can do my Fury for comparison.

Lied about temps. Sorry, not intentionally! 69-73C that's on 1080p
Had an interesting experience though, wheres my PC would boot up with a black screen (no splash screen, nothing), so OK, I tried a few more times and the same thing. So I checked the HDMI cable and that worked fine.
At the end I decided to try it with the included Y adapter (2x6pin to 8pin), even though I do have an 8pin (6+2) on my PSU, PC booted fine and so far no problems. My PSU is DPS-600WB 600W but as I understand it is a multi rail PSU and I don't really understand the power distribution on the label, but I think that not enough amps were my problem... Anyhow, thought I'll share...

Check your BIOS settings. I'll guarantee if you plugged a VGA in to your onboard video card it would be booting for you.

Likely works via HDMI owing to CEC or something.

Change your BIOS to only output from PCIE.

I put it on extreme HD, it greyed out everything but I think it was 1080p.

Just spent ages trying to diagnose an issue where my monitor dies every time I put my windows password in. Swapped my HDMI for a DP, rewired the power to the graphics card, just wouldn't fix it. Was about to try my old graphics card when I noticed a small click from the plug socket, I have one of those energy saver things that shuts down peripherals when the main plug goes off and its decided now was a good time to break!

whats your psu?

Dunno, the way it's mounted in my case means I can't tell but it's a coolermaster 550 or 600.

My Fury scored 3264 on the same settings, but i'm running an i7 4770k so hard to draw many conclusions.

Interested to see what a step up if would have been from your previous card though, feel zippy? happy?

Just the fact my pc turns on every time now is worth it! But yeah, feels faster. Still only played xcom though!

Anyone know what the personal activation code does? I registered my product with XFX but it doesn't let me enter it anywhere?

Seems to indicate you enter it on your Xfx profile page for any game or rewards that may be tied to your card.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=xfx+personal+activation+code+not+working&oq=xfx+pers&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l3.4538j0j4&client=ms-android-lenovo&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Ballicom are a terrible company. If you filter out the obvious shill reviews on reviews.co.uk Ballicom score a miserable 1/5. common tactics include different model from displayed.

No problems reported so far and plenty of positives on trustpilot.

They cancelled my last order due to no stock, hence my previous warnings. They also sold grey imports of HP microservers that were ineligible for cashback, which again I was caught out in. Buy stock they actually really have and aren't just pretending they do though and they are no different to anyone else!

Had a reply off XFX, it does nothing! Apparently they send them out regardless in case they retrospectively make an offer, so that cards already in the channel can be eligible.

On a side note my AMD settings seem to crash a lot when I go into wattman, yet always work the second time. Odd!

i'll be interested how this benches vs the 8gb version in that valley benchmark / DX12 benchmarks.

Got mine today. Probably slightly overkill for my G4560, but this is replacing a Geforce 460! 300%+ faster, uses less power and is totally silent (fans don't spin) when idle. Fits nicely in the Thermaltake Core V1 too.

That's quite a step up!

Incase anyone was interested I emailed the company and they will ship to Ireland/N.Ireland.

Does wattman work for you? My fans seem to be going mental in game yet the GPU says its at <50c

You need to set custom fan curves based on temp and rpm. There will be some guides on Google if you're unsure.

Glad you answered this, I haven't a clue what to do with Wattman!

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.pcworld.com/article/3094984/components-graphics/how-to-use-amds-wattman-the-powerful-new-overclocking-tool-for-radeon-graphics-cards.amp.html

Probably better guidance elsewhere, but out and about right now.

My cousin got a 1060 and it didn't for in the core v1. So had to get a different case.

Must have bought a particularly large 1060 as the Core V1 has quite a bit of room really.

Hey guys, need a new gpu as my HD7850 died recently. This looks like the best option but curious about the best alternatives around £150-170 with 4gb VRAM? And is worth considering a older gen gpu? I'm not a heavy gamer, mainly use my system for music but want to play games like W3 on Ultra at 1080P. I also have a 500w antec truepower plus PSU so would prefer a card that draws from the PCIe. Thanks!

To be honest, at this price there's not really a lot that will touch it, even a second hand 970/290 will fetch £140+ and once you factor in a 3 year warranty it's hard to argue against this 480. Of the last gen, really you only option is a 970 otherwise if you wanted those settings and lowish power, a 290/380/390 will use a lot of juice and whilst it will run happily on that PSU it's money for old rope.

Like most a 480 or 1060 is your best option and from a price perspective it's a 480 I think that makes most sense, all be it less efficient power wise.

Thanks. Yeah gotta think about the longevity of the card, just like to know the best options before making a decision and I'm well out of the loop! I'll check the other cards out, budgets a bit tight and I need a card asap. So Ballicom are reliable?

​i got an rx 470 for 150 from amazon. so check best price for 470 as little differenence with 480 at 1080p ultra. i waa putting bids on ebay for old 290s but not prepared to pay more than 110 or 120 as at 140 150 better to get something new with warranty and hdmi 2.0 support. can't remember if older ones have frresysnc or not. oh and less power so more resellable in future as more pptential customers as large number of customers will have weaker psu

470 haven't really dropped their prices significantly versus the 480 deals, least not that I've seen. Given performance, price, resale I think the 480 is the better pick.

290 supports freesync just fine and is a solid card, but very thirsty. In the summer it is hard to keep temps down if you're running on its limit. The reason the costs are high is that card is still lauded by miners as it's very good cost/block rate.

Either way, plenty of good deals to be had :smiley:

Got a G4560 coming so interested in what PSU you using? Don't suppose you've got a wattmetre thingy so u can measure draw at the wall?
Cheers

I'm using a Corsair CX430 (it worked fine for the Geforce 460 too, which is even more power hungry). I do indeed own of those thingys, a tp-link smart plug wotsit. At idle the system uses about 35w. With load on both the CPU/GPU it shows about 165w.

Nice one cheers, bl00dy good planet saving figures there for a state of the art setup! :smile:

You need a good quality 450 watt plus psu to run an rx 480 with a pentium.
A CX 430 wont cut it, its a tier 4 low quality unit with cheap low temp capacitors.
The xfx ts 450 would be ideal if you can find one.

Part Number : RX-480P4LFB6
Product Name : AMD Radeon™ RX 480
Product Description : RADEON RX 480 RS 4GB D5 1266M HS BP 3xDP HDMI DVI
UPC Number : 778656072589

PROCESSOR & BUS
Bus Type : PCI-E 3.0
Chipset version : Ellesmere XT
GPU Clock : 1266MHz
Performance Category : Enthusiast
Stream Processors : 2304

MEMORY
Memory Bus : 256 bit
Memory Clock : 7000Mhz
Memory Size : 4GB
Memory Type : GDDR5

FEATURE TECHNOLOGIES
AMD Eyefinity Technology : Y
AMD Xconnect Technology : Y
AMD Virtual Super Resolution : Y
AMD GCN Architecture : 4th Gen
AMD FreeSync Technology : Y
AMD LiquidVR Technology : Y
FinFet 14nm : Y
Microsoft Windows 10 Support : Y

OTHER FEATURES
Highlight Features - 1 : Custom Designed Full Cover Backplate
Highlight Features - 2 : Hard Swap Removable Fan Technology
DirectX™ 12 Support : Y
Radeon Software : Y
VR Ready : Y
HDR Ready : Y

ENVIRONMENTAL
RoHS : Y

DISPLAY OUTPUT
Display Port ready : 1.4
HDMI Ready : 2.0b
Max Supported Resolution (DIGITAL) ;4096 x 2160(HDMI;DP)
Output - Display Port : 3
Output - HDMI : 1
Output - DL-DVI-D : 1

PHYSICAL
Card Profile : Dual
Thermal Solution : Ghost
Thermal Type : Dual Slot
Card Dimension (cm) : 24 x 12.1 x 4
Card Dimension (inch) : 9.45 x 4.76 x 1.57
Master Carton Dimensions (cm) : 43 x 49 x 35.5
Master Carton Dimensions (inch) : 16.93 x 19.29 x 13.98
Master Carton Weight (Kg) : To Be Determined
Master Carton Weight (lb) : To Be Determined
Package Dimensions (cm) : 34 x 24 x 8
Package Dimensions (inch) : 13.39 x 9.45 x 3.15
Package Weight (Kg) : 2.35 est.
Package Weight (lb) : 5.18 est.
Units/Carton : 10

INCLUDES
Driver Disk Installation Guide : 1
8-pin to 6pin Power Cable: 1
Warranty Terms Card: 1
Installation DVD : 1

REQUIREMENTS
External Power - 8-pins : 1
Minimum Power Supply Requirement : 500 watt
XFX Recommended Power Supply : XFX 550W PSU

Thanks, that gives me some idea of what I should expect to pay. I need a solid card they ain't likely to fail so will go new. Prices I can see on the 470 are the same if not more so I'll just get this as I need to get up and running asap. Cheers.

https://www.ballicom.co.uk/powercolor-axrx-470-4gbd5-3dh-oc-.p1287379.html?ref=PLA&gclid=CjwKEAiAoOvEBRDD25uyu9Lg9ycSJAD0cnByAFfufYUYUOVioUbWRR8gIfP-Goz1HO8FDBnt01uAJhoCm4jw_wcB

152 for rx 470 from same supplier. agree price on 480 is great but not seen it is much better for 1080p ultra gaming so I preferred to save the cost mainly as I am a geek ans was trying to get my gaming pc as cheap as possible as a project. Got a second hand dell t7500 with xeon quad core processor with hyperthreading and 1100w psu and 12gb of ram for around 150 so total cost around 300.

Dude give the Pentium bashing a rest, you remind me of the Celeron nay sayers :confused:
I don't care if your caps are made out of Superman's knickers! The other dude says it works with a 430 watter! :stuck_out_tongue:
How about I get a mini-stx board, a state of the art MXM GPU and dare I say it, a Pentium, what sort of watts do you reckon I'll need then? :smirk:

Nice price but it's costing you £50 a year to run and destroying the planet :wink:

ha. but it doesn't draw 1100w when idle? has the potential to run 2x hefyy gpu and 2x xeons but this max speed not average speed?

First, why didn't I check and second, why didn't it show up with Google!? :confused: Nah, I went with the 480 for monitor support, I'm 1080 now but I plan to have 2, maybe 3 monitors in the future. I've really wanted to get a 27" monitor for a while and will run at higher resolution when I do so wanted a card equipped to handle some heavier use without drawing too much on system resources.

Anyway for an email from Ballicom today, order should be here Friday so free shipping is the way to go if you don't need it urgently.

Just a heads up, i had a hell of a time getting it installed and working and turns out there's a lot of people having issues with the drivers, with mine the computer kept rebooting every time the installer ran, massive headache. The fix is here but you have to use an older driver: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2PA2NGOc-A

It seems to be either that or fresh install of windows if you want to install the latest drivers. Really wish i'd checked around first but might save you some pain. :wink:

I just plugged it in, booted, downloaded the newest drivers from AMD and rebooted, no troubles.

What card were you coming from?

I would always recommend using DDU prior to installation of a new card and driver, link here.

You may have done this so apologies if I'm teaching the art of sucking eggs, but I also tend to do this even when moving from one version to another as a best practice.

Thanks for the info in any case.

HD7850. I didn't know of DDU but i do now! I had no end of issues since Friday with constant reboots and other issues which started as soon as the driver was installed, almost within a few seconds each time, absolutely fine with the basic display adapter.

Same issue is reported a lot on the amd forums so anyway i'm returning it. Shame cause there doesn't seem to be anything as good at that price and the price seems to have just gone back up.

GTX 1060 the next best thing? Still think my PSU might be a bottleneck though.

Just run DDU, reboot, install 17.1.2 drivers. No need to return the card before trying that, it sounds purely like a driver conflict.

If you only want 50-60 FPS @ 1080p and are happy to perhaps compromise settings in future, you could look to a 1050ti, otherwise pick up the 1060.

Meant i did, AMD utilities and all that. DISM, scannow etc. I can't even boot into windows though to try, just reboots after 30 seconds. PSU could be the issues but apparently a 1060 will be fine with mine, 400w minimum. Gonna try baking my HD7850 in the meantime...

So with onboard video and your old card it boots OK?

What are your specs (including drives) and what's the PSU you have in there?

Have you tried unplugging optical drives, removing all but 1 stick of RAM, unplugging all HDD apart from boot/OS drive?

That should tell you if you have a power issue.

Unplug the kettle lead and press and hold your power button for 15 seconds before you start messing with your board, just in case.

I've been hovering on this for a few days, finally decided to bite the bullet.... and its now back at £220 :disappointed:

Contact them and state you're from HUKD (seriously) they might do you a deal. I messaged them and they're aware of the thread, I had some dialogue about the deal.

Otherwise if teejuana is returning his card, it may be worth PMing him to buy it for cost.

There's a few deals at £210 for 480 8GB and 1060 6GB otherwise.

I'll expire this.

I'm just doing that now, i unplugged everything and checked all connections, made all the cables weren't tangled etc. It's those drivers i'm concerned about though, many reports of issues with more recent ones, some seem to have to run 16.1.2 to get it working, even installing the driver manually.

Oh yeah my SSD was running super slow as well which made me think it was a power or GPU issue, back to normal now so maybe the gremlins have been expunged! I also discovered the bios switch on the side, don't know if that could be related. Will update in a bit.

Anyway to test the card without installing the drivers?

It sounds purely and simply like a lack of power mate if there's an impact to your SSD. If you've got a friend with a computer that may be suitable that's a possible option.

AMD just released 17.2.1 today. The BIOS is worth checking as typically one is "boost" and one is "normal", boost will obviously use more power, but either shout boot technically.

Before you continue though, try running in safe mode, then run DDU again.

Log back on and install 17.2.1.

I'm not sure what was going on but in hindsight i should have done a lot of prep before installing the GPU instead of just casually plugging it in. I installed the 16.1.2 drivers tonight and it worked! Image quality is a big step up from the HD7850, really pleased.

Yeah my SSD was booting faster after i ran diagnostics on it on my laptop so i think the issues was with that and not the card. Now boots in about 12 secs and seems a lot more responsive.

I've created a recovery drive should i run into issues, see how it goes but i'm chuffed. :smile:

Oh yeah no idea what the bios was set to initially, would help if AMD put that info somewhere lol. Are you saying clean install drivers each time they're released?

Ah, congrats. Perceiverance to the rescue.

To be honest, it shouldn't be that difficult but it sounds like you had a rare mix of issues which probably clouded things somewhat.

The BIOS switch is marked on my Sapphire Fury, but I guess it is one of those things you'll find out when you read the manual (:stuck_out_tongue:) prior to installing... I know, who reads that guff?!

The driver stuff, well you now I think have a repeatable process in the worst case with the 16.X drivers. Personally I always do a DDU when going from one version to the next (16>17) but not each increment.

Prior to updating though I always check the AMD Reddit for any large issues with titles I play, though to be honest I haven't suffered any side effects even for games citing issues in the known issues notes.

So, I'd say try you luck when you're feeling brave and update to 17.2.1.

Anybody still looking, grab one from Novatech.

Got mine 10 days ago, not worked for 9 1/2 days..........
Installed drivers, all was good.
Played bf1 for half an hour, all was well, and then screen was playing up, flashing etc.
Now it wont even post on start up. Says no signal from card. Blue power light works on card, idicating the power supply is good.
After reading plenty, the UEFI problem keeps getting mentioned. My PC is not UEFI, but it worked fine for 30 mins !
Dont think I can run this mobo with UEFI ( too old ? 2012), maybe Ive got a card that was weak from the start !!!

MY PC should be enough for it.... guess more reading is required.....

Gigabyte 970A ds3 rev 1.0 Bios f7d ( latest for 8 core)
Fx 8320e
16 gb Ballistix sport 1600
750w Novatech 80+
120gb SSd
Windows 10.

S**t!

-Have you tried flicking the BIOS switch on the card?
-Do the fans spin OK? Unobstructed etc?
-Was it overclocked?
-Have you tried removing all additional RAM/Drives from your machine and booting?
-Tried resetting your BIOS to default settings?
-Tried the card in a friends machine?

Try some/all of the above and report back, otherwise it looks like RMA time.

Here are some alt. options depending on how your RMA plays out:

4GB:
https://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/amdradeongraphicscards/radeonrx480series/rx480armor4goc.html

8GB:
https://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/amdradeongraphicscards/radeonrx480series/rx480armor8goc.html

1060:
https://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/nvidiageforcegraphicscards/nvidiagtx1060series/gtx1060-6gt-ocv1.html

Tried all options you have suggested, not overclocked either, only one not tried is in other machine, this is tricker because how many pc's can slot in a rx480? Its not so small and I thought my humble machine was enough !
I'll try in a mates pc then ill speak to ballicom ......
Thanks for the input.

Speak to Ballicom tomorrow and process your RMA, usually takes a bit of time and you can always cancel it. It sounds like it's dead TBH, if it was a BIOS issue it wouldn't post at all.

Not a great experience for you!

@Simon_H It does sound like it might be faulty, i looked at all the issues with the 480 when troubleshooting and most were reboot loops driver related) or random shut downs (PSU related).

I've got the 480 working now with the 16.7.1 drivers but i updated and Windows crashed, rolled back and it's fine but i am getting shut-downs when gaming even though i set the cpu to stock so definitely a PSU issue, mine's a 550w antec truepower fwiw but maybe try the older drivers.

The only other thing that worked for was installing the driver manually via system the installing the radeon applet and using Trixx to set the clock speeds but obviously such workarounds are not idea with a new GPU.