As ever with these - they'll either be key-gen's or illegally redistributed OEM keys. Might work, might not work. Might last for years, might stop working in months.
Val2015
6 Feb 1716#5
Has been posted before.
You can get it for FREE from Microsoft
Yay!! HUKD advocate software piracy again. Top bunch of admins
ficosaneil to Stoofa
6 Feb 1710#40
I realised some time ago that morals go out the window when there is click through commissions to be made!
I particularly dislike the "mis-price go, go, go" posts that they make on Facebook and twitter. Some companies just can't afford the bill or the hassle of cancelling thousands of orders then dealing with the complaints.
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HankHandsome
6 Feb 171#1
ridiculous price .. heated :smiley:
i've got my windows 7 pro key that works fine if i ever need to re-install but this is worth a punt either way i think
Themadcow
6 Feb 1728#2
As ever with these - they'll either be key-gen's or illegally redistributed OEM keys. Might work, might not work. Might last for years, might stop working in months.
Rimi to Themadcow
6 Feb 171#4
Agreed.
Same as to find key for Volume Licenses on dedicated web sites and activate by phone...
wong_go_wild to Themadcow
6 Feb 171#35
not necessarily. OEM windows key can be valid based on recycled PC. as the software is only 18months old, it is highly doubtful that any 18 month old PC would be deemed as so worthless that the most you get out of it is to sell the OEM software it came with. so yes, probably a keygen job.
Cozworth806
6 Feb 176#3
safer to use as mentioned a win7 or win8 key and keep the assisted systems upgrade .exe as will automatically generate a new key on upgrade
Val2015
6 Feb 1716#5
Has been posted before.
You can get it for FREE from Microsoft
The Pro version has some extras not included with the standard home version.
usetheforceluke to Joemobro
6 Feb 172#24
that could be why its called pro as opposed the standard.................
Hardawan
6 Feb 171#8
Could some one help please.
If i buy this can i use it to have it install with clean windows on MacBook?
FTCom
6 Feb 171#9
nice one.
Derek_Duval
6 Feb 172#10
Assuming you've a qualifying version to upgrade from.
chipsnbeanz
6 Feb 171#11
If only I could get it to install to my laptop. Download - successful. Verify download - successful. Looking for updates - FAIL. Grrrr.
CHAOSEN3 to chipsnbeanz
6 Feb 172#13
I've found sometimes you have to just let Windows updates run for awhile and do it's thing.
Alternatively I keep the update file for KB3213986, so straight after installing the latest version of Win 10 (1607), I run it and there's only minor updates left such as Windows Defender.
kevin1961
6 Feb 172#12
Windows never good where updates are behind. If you google you will find out how to manually upgrade crucial updates that will get auto updates working
MrFizzy
6 Feb 177#14
This looks dodgy enough as it is but if you take a minute to understand OEM key licensing you'll absolutely know this can't be right. MS OEM keys can only be used with the hardware (motherboard really) on which they were first activated. The advert says these are OEM keys off broken PCs so strictly the license is tied to the broken motherboard and you should not use it on a different PC.
I'm not saying these keys won't work (at least for a while), but don't kid yourself that these keys are in any way legitimate.
taras to MrFizzy
6 Feb 1710#28
Regardless of this deal, your information on oem keys is wrong.
usa = oem keys need to be sold with hardware and can't be resold after
europe = oem keys can be resold without hardware and are not tied to motherboards. (that is why you can phone up and revalidate oem key)
Basically the courts in the usa went one way with interpretation of oem keys and europe went another. MS likes to make you think - that everyone lives in the states.
more likely multi use keys taken from large corporations
hobbes748 to gazdoubleu
6 Feb 171#29
Quite possibly. I work for a large organization and one of the IT guys told me that none of product keys on our PCs are registered as they use a corporate licence and their own (trimmed down) version of windows. So I photographed one of the labels and tried it on a home build. Worked a charm.
mtodak
6 Feb 171#18
...and all the hassle of reinstallig windows, setting it up and installing all software. Unless disk image/baclup is done prior to using this key, still then all work is lost for the last 29 days
dealchaser888
6 Feb 17#19
I think Paypal would not cover ebay online code purchase (please correct me if I am wrong, thanks)
nomnomnomnom
6 Feb 174#20
I hate these keys as much as the next person, but this isn't what happens when it's deactivated. You simply have the ability to specify a new key. You don't need to reinstall anything, or lose anything. It literally asks you for one when it's deactivated.
This stands true for even regular, pirated copies - specify a new key are you're good to go. No disk image needed, although you're restricted in what you can do with the OS until you specify a valid key.
PsychoSonny
6 Feb 172#21
a non legit deal posted by brunolegit
you may as well use a pirated copy as this is the same thing tbh but you need to pay for it
Optimus_Toaster to PsychoSonny
6 Feb 171#22
Just pirate it.
Stoofa
6 Feb 1714#23
Yay!! HUKD advocate software piracy again. Top bunch of admins
ficosaneil to Stoofa
6 Feb 1710#40
I realised some time ago that morals go out the window when there is click through commissions to be made!
I particularly dislike the "mis-price go, go, go" posts that they make on Facebook and twitter. Some companies just can't afford the bill or the hassle of cancelling thousands of orders then dealing with the complaints.
tehwabbit
6 Feb 17#25
Another seller pushing VLKs through the market.
Windows 10 is a lot hotter on this, even my MSDN copy which is a legit VLK had connectivity issues after an update until I re-validated!
anfieldlee1982
6 Feb 172#26
bought and upgraded bargain :smiley:
RedRain
6 Feb 17#27
the os should be free or better priced for a fiver you cant go wrong even if its revoked down the line just get another one still cheaper then buying it from amazon ect
Spark
6 Feb 171#30
It's not only that. A lot of companies still use Windows 7 and some even use Windows XP (shudder) but they will buy brand new machines with Windows 10 OEM licenses bundled and those W10 licenses then wind up never being used.
Begize
6 Feb 172#31
As far as I am aware, thats not the case. The rulling by the Europen Courts on software didn't include OEM software bundeled with hardware, it referred to the reselling of software bought as a product in itself. I believe the test case was brought against Oracle because it said in it's licence agreement that the software could not be sold.
The only legal way, in Europe, you can sell an OEM licence is with the original hardware and legally, that licence cannot be installed on other hardware.
good that it works "WORLDEWIDE" :stuck_out_tongue:
danfr
6 Feb 17#33
just sat code not sent, can't be proved, so refund
deadalus3000
6 Feb 174#34
Windows 10 can be used (with limited functionality) without a key.
once you install and setup, you skip activation and that's it.
There is a 'nag' screen, but it still works like it should.
c4chan
6 Feb 171#36
It is against Microsoft licensing to sell OEM products keys that came with disposed laptops, pcs etc.
OEM are only intended for supply with a new PC,
If you have windows 7 or 8/8.1 then windows 10 upgrade is free and you will received the update notification through Windows updates
spannerzone
6 Feb 17#37
Just like Derek Duval said above, it's only FREE if you have a qualifying operating system to upgrade from, eg Win7 or Win8.
It's not a free upgrade if you have nothing to upgrade from.
liamf12
6 Feb 17#38
Last time I installed windows I had a headache with updates, on other installs it was .NET framework missing. When I installed that on the last PC it sat there for ages. Eventually a day or two later it started to behave.
Stoofa
6 Feb 17#39
Real shame you don't know what you're talking about. But I insist, continue to spout your misinformation - like thieves, pirates and general scum of the earth need any form of justification for their actions.
jameshothothot
6 Feb 17#41
i did this over xmas at my dad's house. wanted a pc for when i was there so bought some parts off ebay to build one. some old adventure games for my son had the nag over them (scumm) but new ones like xcom 2 or gta v or rainbiw six seige didn't. must depend if ran full screen or windowed.
118luke
6 Feb 171#42
I know, i feel so sorry for Microsoft.
Their top bosses had to settle for Audi Q7s this year instead of Bentley Bentaygas, all because of HUKD promoting 'piracy'.
polly69
6 Feb 17#43
OMG how this a deal? if you look on eBay you can get Pro keys for £3.75. Cold as it can be had cheaper.
Ordessa
6 Feb 173#44
Oh for goodness sake... Look at the picture... The scammers can't even spell!!!! Wake up folks
hero9989
6 Feb 171#45
Cold because not legal.
Val2015
6 Feb 17#46
Yes ,you're right isn't quite a moral thing but nor the topic. Microsoft don't check if your disability,
acsnet83
6 Feb 171#47
The price it should retail for
tom_gov
6 Feb 172#48
funds albanian mafia cold
tom_gov
6 Feb 17#49
use kmspico activator
tompow
6 Feb 17#50
Just put new keys without reinstalling
Derek_Duval
6 Feb 17#51
I meant if you've got an earlier version of Windows that you need to upgrade from. With this deal you can use it for new systems that don't have an older version of windows.
Stevie.Badman
6 Feb 171#52
cold - illegal
minmanas
6 Feb 171#53
"WORLDEWIDE" ??? :laughing:
Fleabum
6 Feb 17#54
If anyone has bought this, please post the last 5 characters (JUST the last 5 characters) of the key they supplied you, lets see if every key is different.
Regards
Flea
skykid3
6 Feb 172#55
80085
tan159
6 Feb 172#56
Mine is TH13F
sinxa
6 Feb 17#57
Lol
MrClifford
6 Feb 17#58
If your running vista then shame on you. If you're running anything pre vista then your machine needs to be recycled.
Basically anyone can upgrade to 10
gap30
6 Feb 171#59
Got frisky this one
XP and Ubuntu does the job
gap30
6 Feb 17#60
I run XP and trust me my machine wont need recycling for a long time
XP 2017 mind....
andy71
6 Feb 171#61
Damn, I paid over £20 on Kinguin last night.
badboyofrock
6 Feb 172#62
If you're going to use pirated software, why did you pay anything?
spannerzone
6 Feb 171#63
Remember folks, each time you use a non legitimate unlicensed installation of Windows 10 a puppy is killed. It was an anti piracy scheme brought in with Windows 10.
Previous schemes have included being paid $50 to install Windows 8 - yes as unbelievable* as it sounds MS would pay you to use counterfeit software or legitimate software, they didn't care as long as someone used Win8, anyone. However people soon saw through this and stuck with Windows 7 and handed back the $50.
Windows Vista cannot be discussed.
*unbelievable in the sense of it being untrue.
LondonsRichestTramp
6 Feb 171#64
its in microsofts own interests to get as many people using windows 10. legit or not.
it increases their market share. the more people using windows the less using linux, ios, etc...
also it helps unify the windows platform, stabilising 10 as the go to os.
they are doing the smart thing by "letting" people get away with dodgy keys or oem installs.
they are smart enough to realise that they are being purchased by people that probably wouldnt have bought windows legit anyway. and the benefits far outweigh any imaginary cost they would be theoretically incurring.
wouldnt be suprised if these keys came from microsoft themselves as a viral (ahem) way to get more people onto win10
omgpleasespamme
6 Feb 17#65
I don't know if this has been suggest here already but if MS can use these keys as a mechanism to get people used to paying a fiver here and there, they can get people used to the idea of a subscription. The Operating System as a service, £5 a month. I mean, they already have xbox users paying for networking hardware and then charging them something like £25 a month for the ability to use it.
andy71
6 Feb 17#66
Who said anything about pirated? It was downloaded legally from Micro$oft, and AIUI under EC law licences can be bought/sold.
I know enough to know that it is entirely possible that a pirated copy of windows or an activation cracker contains rootkits/trojans/whatever. I don't know enough to be certain of removing said malware.
Krizzo3
6 Feb 171#67
Free on piratebay last time I bought from there worth a look
bobpike1
6 Feb 17#68
I bought one of these last year from another site, Opium Pulses, and I have it installed on my MacBook Pro on Bootcamp. Works perfectly.
taras
6 Feb 17#69
Windows 10 has made product key sales only pretty much the norm, as you can go to the microsoft store buy and download w10 from there. So the argument over hardware is null.
As you can resell physical oem coa (as 2nd hand) it being tied to a mobo forever is also null too. The digital product keys might be a different matter but I would wager that they would be classed as the same.
The only case where its probably different is the w10 freebie upgrade program...
bayhabourbutcher
7 Feb 17#70
few years ago I switched to an SSD drive on my laptop & re-installed a clean windows 7 - tried to enter the licence number listed on bottom of the laptop butt it wasnt accepted - phoned microsoft & was told I had to buy a new licence even though I had only switched the hard drive
told them where to go & just left it saying 'this copy of windows is not genuine' - still using the laptop today - for a while I even managed to get windows updates but that seems to have stopped working for some reason now
not ideal but no way Im forking out for a new licence due to a hard drive change
edit : windows updates working again so all very strange
Jackfrostsfinger
7 Feb 17#71
You have to make sure windows updates is turned off on your existing os first otherwise both your old and new version conflict with each other. Both try and update at the same time and it will keep going in circles.
louiearch9309
7 Feb 17#72
Anyone know where you can buy keys to activate against your Microsoft account?
alexjameshaines
7 Feb 17#73
A replacement legitimate key and license sticker would fix that :wink:
You see these are not legitimate keys, as there is no valid COA to accompany the key assuming the key is even valid. Please do not buy and do not fund these crooks! If you absolutely have to dodge licensing just fully dodge it and get it foc using a mini KMS of some description.
Note: I do not condone these keys or KMS. Just buy the damm software if you are using it!
alexjameshaines
7 Feb 17#74
This is already in place. There is an office 365 license type that gives you an enterprise install of Windows :wink: Not expensive either!
alexjameshaines
7 Feb 17#75
It's still pirated, it's giving money to crooks (possibly organised) and against the Microsoft ToS. The key is only valid if it has the COA! As stated, if you have to do this, don't give money to the crooks and do it foc!
badboyofrock
7 Feb 17#76
Haha! OK. The download maybe from Microsoft, but if you are paying this kind of money for a 'key', it's illegal. Simple as.
Begize
7 Feb 17#77
Not sure on the point you're making here. You claimed you can legally resell OEM licence keys in the EU without hardware.
You can't and you cannot, legally, install that software onto other hardware.
What the EU rulling said is that you can resell software bought as a physical product or download. That might include a licence for Windows or Office software bought outright but it excludes anything covered by an OEM licence that means it did or should have come bundled with hardware.
It's not a case of wagering. There was a case in the European Courts and a decision was made.
This is why eBay state in their listing policies for OEM software like this that it must come bundled with the original hardware.
duncanddisorderly
7 Feb 17#78
£3.39 on ebay
taras
7 Feb 17#79
Your agument is muddled. There is no longer a requirement to buy hardware with a oem license. Scan.co.uk ebuyer.co.uk both are resellers of oem software, no hardware is needed to buy the os..This is way ebay's requirement is usa centric.Even the physical COA has become outdated and no longer a requirement.
the need for hardware with oem licenses is no longer valid. Nor is it tied to a mobo forever, as you can resell that license.. if your mobo dies, you can legally transfer it - under eu law.
under eu law. oem licenses can not be used on more than the stated seats on the purchase document. so 1 seat = 1 devices, 5 seats = 5 devices.
if you resell on the license, you must remove the software from your machine and also have the original reciept etc (2016 requirement).
What i've said is that you don't need hardware to buy oem licenses = true
you can also move or sell oem licenses as long as you remove the software from the previous device = true.
taras
7 Feb 17#80
Your agument is muddled. There is no longer a requirement to buy hardware with a oem license. Scan.co.uk ebuyer.co.uk both are resellers of oem software, no hardware is needed to buy the os..This is way ebay's requirement is usa centric.Even the physical COA has become outdated and no longer a requirement.
the need for hardware with oem licenses is no longer valid. Nor is it tied to a mobo forever, as you can resell that license.. if your mobo dies, you can legally transfer it - under eu law.
under eu law. oem licenses can not be used on more than the stated seats on the purchase document. so 1 seat = 1 devices, 5 seats = 5 devices.
if you resell on the license, you must remove the software from your machine and also have the original reciept etc (2016 requirement).
What i've said is that you don't need hardware to buy oem licenses = true
you can also move or sell oem licenses as long as you remove the software from the previous device = true.
kick_u_in_the_nuts
7 Feb 17#81
just get the windows 10 download iso from microsoft for free and then get the kms toolkit for free as well
Begize
7 Feb 17#82
You may be able to buy OEM licences from Scan, but they are brand new full product supplied with media. These are meant to be sold to system builders with, for example, a new motherboard, hence why Scan sell them. They are not reselling "used" ones, they are selling them for the first time, hence the high price similar to that you would pay for a retail licence. If you, as the system builder, purchases the licence and installs it, you are able to sell that licence on with the hardware you install it on. You cannot legally transfer it to another machine once it's been activated.
This eBay listing states these are used OEM licences from scrap PC's, not brand new unused ones.
What you actually said is "oem keys can be resold without hardware and are not tied to motherboards." - In this case, this is false. These licences are not new, they have legally already been sold as part of a hardware purchase and must be sold on as such. You also cannot legally move activated OEM software like this, bundled with hardware, to another device, regardless of if you uninstall it or not.
The important thing here is the difference between sold and resold.
badboyofrock
7 Feb 17#83
Might as well, it'll be as legit as this deal.
qwales
7 Feb 17#84
Voting cold as this is free on any torrent site if you want dodgy keys
greg666
7 Feb 171#85
Go Linux and pay nothing :-)
chipsnbeanz
7 Feb 17#86
Aaahr, thanks for that. Will try it. Cheers pal :smiley:
fleebleflam
7 Feb 17#87
That is not true at all, i have bought a few of these keys from opium pulses, last April. I only just activated one of them Yesterday through my Microsoft account, and it is now fully officially activated.
fleebleflam
7 Feb 17#88
No! i have an Asrock motherboard which i put in my pc when i built it about 3 years ago. I am still using it now, and have just Activated a Pro OEM key which i bought last April. Have latest 1607 version and is probably activated through my Microsoft account (which i did online).
My properties window states now fully activated and has my Asrock logo with dedicated phone number support underneath.
They work fine.
MrFizzy
7 Feb 17#89
No!! I didn't say they won't work, I'm saying they, or there (use assuming they were ever official keys) is not legit.
eatmybogbrush
7 Feb 17#90
Correct me if I am wrong but you don't get COA sticker any more with new laptops and tablets, I didn't with my tablet, there are cheaper ones on ebay anyway I found one for £3.18.......
fleebleflam
7 Feb 17#91
I know you didn't say, they wont work, but they are legit, they are from an original windows 10 Machine.
All you have to do is install a fresh OEM PRO image and use the key.
demosn
7 Feb 17#92
Can someone verify to me if you can use these keys to activate your windows 10 with Microsoft?
s0s
8 Feb 17#93
not for FREE, they'll gather a lot more info about you than a normal windows !
118luke
8 Feb 171#94
Trust me, that is the least of your worries. You'll leave far more tracks every time you use google or the internet in General.
I don't believe > but i like to assume like that as it makes me happy, by the way can you help me?
badboyofrock
10 Feb 17#101
I can help you. Don't buy this deal, or any deal like it because it's illegal.
Shengis
11 Feb 17#102
People ITT need to get a life.
VincentGO
11 Feb 17#103
So after all these debates, are these license really OEM and can be use even after 3 months, 6 months, 1 year or 10 years if I bought on eBay?
badboyofrock
11 Feb 17#104
The reality is, you might get a genuine OEM key, and it'll work forever. What's more likely, however, is that they are Volume License Keys to be used in big companies with lots of seats, and they are being used against the terms of the agreement. This is why they stop working after a few days or weeks. Of course, they might not work at all. It's a gamble, because, as far as I know, PayPal don't cover digital items, so you'd struggle to get a refund.
RedJenny
11 Feb 171#105
WORLDEWIDE! Much Genuine! Very Authentic! Wow!
botted
14 Feb 17#106
worth a shot
TonyBet
15 Feb 17#107
OK, so this is scamm!
Activation Required- that's what I get on my Windows 10. Done clean install, all worked fine for a week and today all gone....
webvamsi666
16 Feb 17#108
Did you link your windows activation to your MS account?
TonyBet
16 Feb 17#109
Of course I did. I have called Microsoft activation and they told me I have bought fake license and they receiving hundreds of calls regarding same seller ...
Shame on you HUKD for promoting this scam!!!!
poolman
16 Feb 17#110
Slightly off topic but maybe useful info for any proliant microserver users out there; if/when you upgrade to win 10 it will knock out your ethernet card, you will not be able to fix it with a driver and will need to reflash your bios!
Interestingly, win 10 seems to knock out numerous makes of ethernet/wifi cards on both PC's and laptops, although most seem to be able to fix this with driver updates or rollbacks....but not the proliant. Only the bios update will do.
One other thing, yes, if 'upgrading' you can rollback to win 7/8 BUT it wanted 52GB (?!!!) of space on my c: drive to do it, so you might want to plan ahead!!
badboyofrock
18 Feb 17#111
Well, there's a surprise.
LondonsRichestTramp
27 Feb 17#112
you obviously dont know anything about how microsoft themselves shared their change in tactics and why they did it.
back in the day when developers would use microsoft studio as a programming platform it came with msdn, which used to cost thousands.
msdn was like the reference guide for the developers. and microsoft knew they could charge ridiculous amounts for it.
but slowly over time the new younger generation of developers started asking why should i save up and buy this when i can just learn to program in other competing languages for free.
microsoft tried to stick it out as they were the gold standard at the time for windows development, but eventually did a complete 180.
they explained how they were making free versions and cheap versions of their platforms to reduce the barriers facing the next generation of developers and also cement their status for years to come. things that used to cost thousands eventually became free and their policy worked perfectly.
if you dont know what youre talking about, or its over your head, dont start calling people crazy.
badboyofrock
27 Feb 17#113
I didn't call him crazy, I just pointed out that if he believes all the garbage that you were spouting, then he needs help.
webvamsi666
1 Mar 17#114
Bro i work in Azure & .net platform > i know what i am talking about and what i believe lol, you need some education...
badboyofrock
1 Mar 17#115
I accept that you know what you believe, most people do. But know what you're talking about? I think not. Oh, and I'm not your bro.
webvamsi666
1 Mar 171#116
its ok, I like hot deals but don't like hot discussion threads as they always hurt other person feelings... no worries I accept that I don't know what i am talking. Happy ending :smile:
Cheers...
brentk
12 Mar 17#117
Yes this is true but I've tried to do this upgrade but always fails!
joshs213
26 Apr 17#118
Microsoft don't actively encourage license distribution this way, but as others have pointed out, they turn a blind eye in order to retain their market share. Hence why they offered the free upgrade to Windows 10 from Windows 7/8/8.1. Similarly, no one will buy a Microsoft license for silly money (£100+) if they can use Linux or an equivalent for free. It's one of these things that's not really hurting anyone and is actually more beneficial than detrimental to Microsoft. Yes, the sellers are benefiting at Microsoft's expense, and by the looks of their feedback they must be rolling in it given the hundreds of thousands of sales that have been made. By the same token, the sheer number of sales makes it impossible to police. Therefore, Microsoft use it to their advantage. It's a bit of a dark subject I suppose.
Holdsworth37
1 Jun 17#119
I currently have windows 10. It was a free upgrade from a legitimate windows 7 software. I am wanting to put a fresh copy of windows 10 on my laptop. Can i download the free install from google then use the same key as i have now when prompted or do i have to the purchase one of these keys? Thanks
Holdsworth37
1 Jun 17#120
I currently have windows 10. It was a free upgrade from a legitimate windows 7 software. I am wanting to put a fresh copy of windows 10 on my laptop. Can i download the free install from google then use the same key as i have now when prompted or do i have to the purchase one of these keys? Thanks
Rimi
2 Jun 17#121
Stupid question! Of course you need to buy Windows 10 key.
Opening post
Top comments
You can get it for FREE from Microsoft
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade
I particularly dislike the "mis-price go, go, go" posts that they make on Facebook and twitter. Some companies just can't afford the bill or the hassle of cancelling thousands of orders then dealing with the complaints.
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i've got my windows 7 pro key that works fine if i ever need to re-install but this is worth a punt either way i think
Same as to find key for Volume Licenses on dedicated web sites and activate by phone...
You can get it for FREE from Microsoft
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade
If i buy this can i use it to have it install with clean windows on MacBook?
Alternatively I keep the update file for KB3213986, so straight after installing the latest version of Win 10 (1607), I run it and there's only minor updates left such as Windows Defender.
I'm not saying these keys won't work (at least for a while), but don't kid yourself that these keys are in any way legitimate.
usa = oem keys need to be sold with hardware and can't be resold after
europe = oem keys can be resold without hardware and are not tied to motherboards. (that is why you can phone up and revalidate oem key)
Basically the courts in the usa went one way with interpretation of oem keys and europe went another. MS likes to make you think - that everyone lives in the states.
source (one of many as its the EU court of appeal) https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120703/11345519566/eu-court-says-yes-you-can-resell-your-software-even-if-software-company-says-you-cant.shtml
This stands true for even regular, pirated copies - specify a new key are you're good to go. No disk image needed, although you're restricted in what you can do with the OS until you specify a valid key.
you may as well use a pirated copy as this is the same thing tbh but you need to pay for it
I particularly dislike the "mis-price go, go, go" posts that they make on Facebook and twitter. Some companies just can't afford the bill or the hassle of cancelling thousands of orders then dealing with the complaints.
Windows 10 is a lot hotter on this, even my MSDN copy which is a legit VLK had connectivity issues after an update until I re-validated!
The only legal way, in Europe, you can sell an OEM licence is with the original hardware and legally, that licence cannot be installed on other hardware.
https://www.itassetmanagement.net/2014/02/13/yes-you-can/
once you install and setup, you skip activation and that's it.
There is a 'nag' screen, but it still works like it should.
OEM are only intended for supply with a new PC,
If you have windows 7 or 8/8.1 then windows 10 upgrade is free and you will received the update notification through Windows updates
It's not a free upgrade if you have nothing to upgrade from.
Their top bosses had to settle for Audi Q7s this year instead of Bentley Bentaygas, all because of HUKD promoting 'piracy'.
Regards
Flea
Basically anyone can upgrade to 10
XP and Ubuntu does the job
XP 2017 mind....
Previous schemes have included being paid $50 to install Windows 8 - yes as unbelievable* as it sounds MS would pay you to use counterfeit software or legitimate software, they didn't care as long as someone used Win8, anyone. However people soon saw through this and stuck with Windows 7 and handed back the $50.
Windows Vista cannot be discussed.
*unbelievable in the sense of it being untrue.
it increases their market share. the more people using windows the less using linux, ios, etc...
also it helps unify the windows platform, stabilising 10 as the go to os.
they are doing the smart thing by "letting" people get away with dodgy keys or oem installs.
they are smart enough to realise that they are being purchased by people that probably wouldnt have bought windows legit anyway. and the benefits far outweigh any imaginary cost they would be theoretically incurring.
wouldnt be suprised if these keys came from microsoft themselves as a viral (ahem) way to get more people onto win10
I know enough to know that it is entirely possible that a pirated copy of windows or an activation cracker contains rootkits/trojans/whatever. I don't know enough to be certain of removing said malware.
As you can resell physical oem coa (as 2nd hand) it being tied to a mobo forever is also null too. The digital product keys might be a different matter but I would wager that they would be classed as the same.
The only case where its probably different is the w10 freebie upgrade program...
told them where to go & just left it saying 'this copy of windows is not genuine' - still using the laptop today - for a while I even managed to get windows updates but that seems to have stopped working for some reason now
not ideal but no way Im forking out for a new licence due to a hard drive change
edit : windows updates working again so all very strange
You see these are not legitimate keys, as there is no valid COA to accompany the key assuming the key is even valid. Please do not buy and do not fund these crooks! If you absolutely have to dodge licensing just fully dodge it and get it foc using a mini KMS of some description.
Note: I do not condone these keys or KMS. Just buy the damm software if you are using it!
You can't and you cannot, legally, install that software onto other hardware.
What the EU rulling said is that you can resell software bought as a physical product or download. That might include a licence for Windows or Office software bought outright but it excludes anything covered by an OEM licence that means it did or should have come bundled with hardware.
It's not a case of wagering. There was a case in the European Courts and a decision was made.
This is why eBay state in their listing policies for OEM software like this that it must come bundled with the original hardware.
the need for hardware with oem licenses is no longer valid. Nor is it tied to a mobo forever, as you can resell that license.. if your mobo dies, you can legally transfer it - under eu law.
under eu law. oem licenses can not be used on more than the stated seats on the purchase document. so 1 seat = 1 devices, 5 seats = 5 devices.
if you resell on the license, you must remove the software from your machine and also have the original reciept etc (2016 requirement).
What i've said is that you don't need hardware to buy oem licenses = true
you can also move or sell oem licenses as long as you remove the software from the previous device = true.
the need for hardware with oem licenses is no longer valid. Nor is it tied to a mobo forever, as you can resell that license.. if your mobo dies, you can legally transfer it - under eu law.
under eu law. oem licenses can not be used on more than the stated seats on the purchase document. so 1 seat = 1 devices, 5 seats = 5 devices.
if you resell on the license, you must remove the software from your machine and also have the original reciept etc (2016 requirement).
What i've said is that you don't need hardware to buy oem licenses = true
you can also move or sell oem licenses as long as you remove the software from the previous device = true.
This eBay listing states these are used OEM licences from scrap PC's, not brand new unused ones.
What you actually said is "oem keys can be resold without hardware and are not tied to motherboards." - In this case, this is false. These licences are not new, they have legally already been sold as part of a hardware purchase and must be sold on as such. You also cannot legally move activated OEM software like this, bundled with hardware, to another device, regardless of if you uninstall it or not.
The important thing here is the difference between sold and resold.
My properties window states now fully activated and has my Asrock logo with dedicated phone number support underneath.
They work fine.
All you have to do is install a fresh OEM PRO image and use the key.
Clicky - and be astounded
Activation Required- that's what I get on my Windows 10. Done clean install, all worked fine for a week and today all gone....
Shame on you HUKD for promoting this scam!!!!
Interestingly, win 10 seems to knock out numerous makes of ethernet/wifi cards on both PC's and laptops, although most seem to be able to fix this with driver updates or rollbacks....but not the proliant. Only the bios update will do.
One other thing, yes, if 'upgrading' you can rollback to win 7/8 BUT it wanted 52GB (?!!!) of space on my c: drive to do it, so you might want to plan ahead!!
back in the day when developers would use microsoft studio as a programming platform it came with msdn, which used to cost thousands.
msdn was like the reference guide for the developers. and microsoft knew they could charge ridiculous amounts for it.
but slowly over time the new younger generation of developers started asking why should i save up and buy this when i can just learn to program in other competing languages for free.
microsoft tried to stick it out as they were the gold standard at the time for windows development, but eventually did a complete 180.
they explained how they were making free versions and cheap versions of their platforms to reduce the barriers facing the next generation of developers and also cement their status for years to come. things that used to cost thousands eventually became free and their policy worked perfectly.
if you dont know what youre talking about, or its over your head, dont start calling people crazy.
Cheers...