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Newbold
5 Feb 17
Probably about time for this to be highlighted again because of all the advertising by Gaviscon.

Gaviscon is the big well-known brand - and very expensive because people will pay more for a brand.

Peptac is almost identical, works just as well, treats exactly the same symptoms - but it's less than half the price because it's a generic equivalent.

Peppermint or aniseed flavoured - just like Gaviscon.

Save yourself some money. Buy it anywhere you like, though a lot of stores choose not to sell it because they make much more money on Gaviscon. Usually £3 or maybe a bit less from your local chemist

Boots sell exactly the same thing, made by the same manufacturer that makes Peptac, at higher prices under their own label. The Boots one is £6.29 - for exactly the same thing. More than twice the price. They have the barefaced cheek to avoid UK taxes and still rip off their customers with ridiculously high prices, even for a generic like this.

Online and in the north Weldricks Pharmacy has a good name - buy it with free delivery click and collect, or £3.19 to have it delivered (free delivery if you spend £35 or more).

Peptac liquid contains three active ingredients, sodium alginate, sodium bicarbonate and calcium carbonate. These three ingredients work together to relieve the symptoms of gastro-oesophageal reflux, such as heartburn. Gastro-oesophageal reflux is stomach acid flowing from the stomach back into the food pipe (oesophagus).

Various conditions can cause reflux as a result of the pressure they exert on the stomach, for example, pregnancy and hiatus hernia. It can also occur following meals. Reflux can cause symptoms such as indigestion, acid regurgitation, or the painful burning sensation of heartburn. Over long periods of time the acid can also damage and inflame the lining of the foodpipe. This condition is known as reflux oesophagitis.

The active ingredients of Peptac are not absorbed into the bloodstream. Instead they work by forming a "raft" that floats on the surface of the stomach contents, physically preventing the acid from flowing back into the foodpipe.

Sodium alginate is a naturally occuring substance that is found in a particular type of seaweed. In the presence of the calcium carbonate it reacts with the acid in the stomach to form a gel. Sodium bicarbonate also reacts with the acid in the stomach to form bubbles of carbon dioxide. These bubbles are trapped by the gel and they allow the gel to float like a raft on top of the stomach contents. The raft prevents acid in the stomach from flowing back into the food pipe. This relieves the symptoms of reflux such as heartburn. In the case of reflux oesophagitis it not only relieves the symptoms, but also protects the inflamed foodpipe from the acid and allows it to heal. The raft lasts for about three to four hours on top of the stomach contents and is then broken down in the digestive system and excreted in the faeces.

What is it used for? Relieving the symptoms of gastro-oesophageal reflux, such as heartburn, indigestion and acid regurgitation.
Top comments
Newbold to lukeo44
5 Feb 17 39 #10
You obviously have no idea how much better it is up here than in most parts of the south (and I've lived south and north) - much nicer houses, much lower prices, open countryside, easy access to beautiful coastlines, friendlier people. And best of all - no awful Londoners. :smile:
saveafew
5 Feb 17 18 #3
I found it was easier to stop eating at the mother inlaws.
whydoineedastupidusername to CouldntThinkOfAUsername
5 Feb 17 14 #5
Did you pick your username after you saw mine ?
buckiebull
5 Feb 17 12 #25
My best friend died yesterday of an overdoes of heartburn liquid.........................I still can't believe Gav-is-gon..:smile:
Latest comments (84)
copperspock
9 Feb 17 #84
Hmm, I sense a business opportunity here. Buy a bottle, then just make copies of the receipt and sell them :smiley:.
3applepie
9 Feb 17 #83
Just the price alone of the Peptac is enough to sooth your stomach compared to Gaviscon price.
copperspock
8 Feb 17 1 #82
Ah I wasn't aware of that, might give those a try. Anything's gotta be better than fermented cabbage :smiley:.
JamesSmith
7 Feb 17 2 #81
Heh... it's certainly not to everyone's taste. Interestingly though, you can get all sorts of different flavours that differ from South Korea's national dish but have the same health giving properties. I have a friend who makes what he calls 'goosegogs' - with fermented gooseberrys. There's loads of variation possible, from mild salsa-like flavours to fruit ferments. So long as it's swimming in Lactobacillus, it will help the body to keep a healthy state of intestinal flora.
copperspock
6 Feb 17 1 #80
Kimchi, argh. I'd rather get heartburn TBH :smiley:.
Musicrab
6 Feb 17 3 #79
e.g. (not scare-mongering) but one example of why the doctor shouldn't always be ignored (even if it takes weeks to get an appointment). I had heart-burn, referred to a specialist who took a swab and diagnosed Barretts-Oesophagus. This is called a "pre-cancer" meaning the chances of it turning into a cancer are 1 in 200. Treatment is a common drug called omeprazole. Oh and a checkup every 2 years.
OB1
6 Feb 17 #78
​Why?
JamesSmith
6 Feb 17 1 #77
You're welcome.

Not a Dr but I would recommend taking a tablespoon straight down and quickly follow with water.
ciderno1
6 Feb 17 #76
How would or should one take the Aspall Cyder Vinegar?
JDPower
6 Feb 17 #75
Yup, totally safe:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cu0BIBhWIAA3djk.jpg
ciderno1
6 Feb 17 #74
Thank you for the information.
Newbold
6 Feb 17 #73
Surely you're forgetting the constant mantra from the Conservative Party every time there's a General Election: "The NHS is safe in our hands".

Every time they spout it. And every time they're proved total liars when the NHS collapses around our ears. Saying the NHS is safe in their hands is a bit like saying that democracy's safe in the hands of Donald Trump.
JDPower
6 Feb 17 2 #72
Ah but they're bringing the national debt down:
http://i.imgur.com/aSvXHmY.png

Oh, whoops :neutral_face:
JamesSmith
6 Feb 17 1 #71
Omeprazole is one of the protein pump inhibitors that I mentioned earlier. Only use this short term. Get off the stuff as soon as you can.

Cider vinegar has connotations with new age alternative medicines, but some of those alternative medicines have value (that cannot be licensed by pharmas!).

If it works for you - great news! I recommend getting unpasteurised live food. For many food groups this is difficult, but Aspall Organic Cyder Vinegar is live and a rarity - you can buy it in Tesco!

http://img.tesco.com/Groceries/pi/608/5012845032608/IDShot_540x540.jpg

Also look at other living foods which provide good gut bacteria. Not bio yoghurts but fermented foods, kimchi, live sauerkraut, etc. They help restore a healthy balance and work to eradicated such problems as yeast overgrowth.
JamesSmith
6 Feb 17 2 #70
This is the real truth. The NHS has existed with these sorts of minor inefficiencies for years and was still ranked No.1 health service of 14 developed nations (including switzerland, germany) until the Tory party got their hands on it.

The destruction of our NHS is intentional and by design to shoe in privatisation. We now spend far significantly less % of GDP compared to any of our EU rivals on healthcare, and it's being stretched to breaking point so they can bring in private firms (eg private ambulances attending emergencies rose over 1089% since 2011). I do find it strange that people wilfully ignore the abundance of evidence, and assurances by professionals in the health service, that this is by design. That's what Tories voted for.
nodrog1
6 Feb 17 #69
Not as good as Gavi. !
MynameisM
6 Feb 17 #68
​there's probably cheaper tablets aswell.
pat-w
6 Feb 17 #67
Thanks OP
Newbold
6 Feb 17 4 #66
But the main reason isn't people being prescribed medications they need to remain healthy - it's simply a refusal by the government to fund the NHS according to its needs. Or road repairs. Or care for the elderly. Or education. Or anything. Just for the spurious reason of lowering taxes - even though it costs people far more than the tax they 'save'.
nickhale756
6 Feb 17 1 #65
Very interesting I hadn't heard of this. I just wanted to flag up that taking such medicines indefinitely is not a good idea without further checks and others have confirmed this. Job done I think so lets not forget this is a bargains website!
Helgrr
6 Feb 17 #64
This right here is just one of the many reasons the NHS has no money
ciderno1
6 Feb 17 #63
That is also very true. My gp did try to wean me off these but the symptoms came back , tho I have noticed the omeprazole did work better when I first started to take these. By the way , I also take apple cider vinegar daily, cold milk too occasionally. I have recently cut down on the omeprazole ie 1 every few days.
copperspock
6 Feb 17 #62
Plain old milk works for me, as well as avoiding eating anything before bedtime.
fizzypopman
6 Feb 17 #61
Many people under 60 are now getting oesophageal cancer. I would advise anyone with persistent heartburn or acid reflux to see their GP.
fizzypopman
6 Feb 17 3 #60
Folks... if you're suffering from acid reflux or heartburn on a regular basis (and haven't done so already) then you really should be talking to your GP about this. It's most likely nothing serious (and if monitored regularly/caught early is very treatable).

If left undiagnosed/treated, this can lead to oesophageal cancer (which can be terminal)... save yourself from an early death and get yourself checked out! Finally, if you don't feel your GP is treating your condition seriously enough, then get a second opinion!

https://sites.google.com/site/barrettsoesophaguscampaign/
https://www.actionagainstheartburn.org.uk/
http://www.opa.org.uk/

Lecture over. Normal service will be resumed shortly.
JamesSmith
6 Feb 17 1 #59
He might have had Barrett's esophogus which is known cause of cancer. Very likely if he had GERD over many years. Possibly negligence on the part of his doctor if he wasn't checked for Barrett's.

Protein pump inhibitors are also over-prescribed and long term use can result in irreversible acid production changes in the gut as it changes it's behaviour.

The cheapest easy simple remedy is a swoosh of Sodium Bicarbonate - the main ingredient of these OTC heartburn 'medicines'. I found a plant based diet free of gluten and dairy helped my heartburn symptoms when it was a daily problem.
JB2
6 Feb 17 #58
Hate to be pedantic (I don't really!), but surely if a medicine is a generic, it wouldn't have a brand name, in this case "Peptac", (so, for example, ibuprofen is generic, "Neurofen" a brand). (Then again, I suppose "Sodium Bicarbonate (133.5mg/5ml), Sodium Alginate (250mg/5ml), Calcium Carbonate (80mg/5ml), Carbomer, Sodium Hydroxide, Saccharin Sodium, Ethyl Parahydroxybenzoate (E214), Propylparahydroxybenzoate (E216), Butylparahydroxybenzoate, Isopropyl Alcohol, Erythrosine Colour (E127), Aniseed Oil, Purified Water." wouldn't exactly roll off the shelves, would it?)
Newbold
6 Feb 17 #57
It is - but maybe not indefinitely. After a while it can cease to work, as the body becomes resistant to it. Worked fine for my wife for quite a time, but then actually started making the problem worse, so she's back on the Gaviscon again.
ciderno1
6 Feb 17 #56
Omeprazole really is a life changer.
sam1123
6 Feb 17 #55
this is brilliant, thanks for posting OP!
crofter
6 Feb 17 #54
This is what I get on prescription to treat my hiatus hernia - tried all the tablets but nothing had any effect and generally left me feeling worse so any bouts of acid reflux I get I just reach for this ...
helloyoufool
6 Feb 17 #53
I've heard that Stockport Grammar have been using this this topic as an example in Chemistry lessons recently!
elpimpi
6 Feb 17 1 #52
Get to your doctor and get omeprazole prescribed and heartburn, acid reflux, etc will be a thing of the past. It's a life changer.
James_cleeve73
6 Feb 17 #51
Personally I recommend a course of leeches.
PierremontQuaker
6 Feb 17 1 #50
I was reading this a few days ago about apple cider vinegar - ordered a bottle from Amazon - worth a try!
peaky19881
6 Feb 17 #49
You can get packs of 12 (75mg) from Poundland too :smiley:
OB1
6 Feb 17 #48
​As you prefer. Personally I have the spoon of vinegar neat, then rinse my mouth with the glug of water before swallowing, so that vinegar doesn't stay on my teeth. Pretty much always immediately stops heart burn for me and importantly treats the cause, not just the symptom.
Chillaxingh
6 Feb 17 2 #47
Depends how old.. Usually anyone with persistent heart burn over the age of 60 warrants further investigation.
benjai
6 Feb 17 2 #46
It's all the chips on their shoulders.
broadyo796
6 Feb 17 #45
This is available in most chemists but they keep it under the counter .I've paid as low as £2 for it .
jayman1986
6 Feb 17 #44
​Gav-is a con? No wonder he's gone.
The.Cat
6 Feb 17 #43
Realise this will sound crazy, but; My horse was on ranitidine for Gastric Ulcers. He's now on alfalfa and rape seed oil as a preventive treatment. I realise alfalfa isn't particularly human friendly but the science behind it and the oil will be the same.
nickhale756
6 Feb 17 3 #42
I agree Jimbo but my brother's doctor prescribed him antacid/heartburn medicine on repeat prescription for years-right up until he was diagnosed with oesophogeal cancer -he died three months later. I will always wonder if it should have been picked up sooner.
nickhale756
6 Feb 17 #41
Think the question was for me.actually. ASDA 500mL for £4-50 cf Gaviscon 600mL for £8 (in Asda) actually identical! Ingredients
: 133.5mg Sodium Bicarbonate 250mg Sodium Alginate, 80mg Calcium Carbonate , It also contains Carbomer, Sodium Hydroxide, Saccharin Sodium, Ethyl Hydroxybenzoate (E214), Propyl Hydroxybenzoate (E216), Butyl Hydroxybenzoate, Isopropyl Alcohol, Erythrosine Colour (E127), Aniseed Oil, Purified Water .
simonl2014a
5 Feb 17 #40
I normally buy tescos own brand or ranitine tablets.
I went to the doctor but he put me on Lansoprazole - I came off these after a few years and found out what was causing the acid instead.
Simonol
5 Feb 17 1 #39
Importantly, find out why you're needing to use any of this!
Check out Coeliac Disease. I drank gallons of this for years, turns out I just need to avoid gluten.
itsmattyjayy
5 Feb 17 1 #38
They're used for the exact same problems. I work at a pharmacy and have seen how recently doctors have stopped issuing Gaviscon and now issuing peptac. This isn't a case of Asda price vs brand names, medicines have stringent testing procedures...
saxo_appeal
5 Feb 17 1 #37
The main, and only reason I use Gaviscon is because its sold in tablet form

No chance I'm carrying around a bottle everywhere on the off chance I start getting heartburn
Tequila
5 Feb 17 #36
there is absolutely no comparison.
Peptac tastes disgusting,and is no where as effective as Gaviacon.
It really isn't on par.
ramkmr
5 Feb 17 #35
Ultimate is white cabbage
Eat portion of green cabbage in the morning in empty stomach and drink water later some time
Best natural way of curing acid problem with no side effects
OB1
5 Feb 17 2 #32
Try a spoon of apple cider vinegar washed down with water. Works for me.

I know it sounds unintuitive to treat acid indigestion with acid, but there's sound science behind it.
ramkmr to OB1
5 Feb 17 #34
Do you mean drink spoon of vinegar with water?
Wear_The_Fox_Hat
5 Feb 17 1 #33
Let's all have a civil war over a bottle of antacid. Maybe the manufacturer will sell a few more bottles with all the stress indigestion...... :wink:
99rb
5 Feb 17 4 #30
If you use a lot, go to your doctor.
jimbo23 to 99rb
5 Feb 17 3 #31
Very true. I'm pretty sure you're not meant to use stuff like Gaviscon/Reenie/Other brands of this medicine all the time as constant heartburn/indigestion could be an indication of something underlying. I think if you also suffer a lot from heartburn, you can get a prescription "drug" which is more potent at treating heartburn from your doctor.
mocmocamoc
5 Feb 17 1 #29
Home Bargains does an own brand as well, good price if you need it not often. However if you need it all the time I suggest visiting the doctor and getting some tablets.
CouldntThinkOfAUsername
5 Feb 17 5 #4
Unless it's a deal, then cold. People should research themselves not get spoon-fed information on a "deals" site.
whydoineedastupidusername to CouldntThinkOfAUsername
5 Feb 17 14 #5
Did you pick your username after you saw mine ?
pnaylor39 to CouldntThinkOfAUsername
5 Feb 17 8 #28
​Disagree. A deal is all about value. whether it's a heartburn treatment or a mobile phone . if I can pay half as much for an alternative brand wirh same features then you'd be a fool to ignore it. if someone prepared to do research then they should be commended. why pay more when there's no need to ..That's common sense.
Gyre8
5 Feb 17 #23
Can you elaborate on 'almost identical' please? Is there a difference in ingredients and, if so, what is it? Thank you.
Newbold to Gyre8
5 Feb 17 3 #27
Gaviscon aniseed

Active ingredients Sodium Bicarbonate (133.5 mg), Calcium Carbonate (80 mg) and Sodium Alginate (250 mg).
The other ingredients are carbomer, methyl and propyl parahydroxybenzoates, sodium saccharin, sodium hydroxide, fennel flavour, erythrosine and water.

Peptac aniseed

Active Ingredients: Sodium Bicarbonate (133.5mg/5ml), Sodium Alginate (250mg/5ml), Calcium Carbonate (80mg/5ml).
Other Ingredients: Carbomer, Sodium Hydroxide, Saccharin Sodium, Ethyl Parahydroxybenzoate (E214), Propylparahydroxybenzoate (E216), Butylparahydroxybenzoate, Isopropyl Alcohol, Erythrosine Colour (E127), Aniseed Oil, Purified Water.
buckiebull
5 Feb 17 12 #25
My best friend died yesterday of an overdoes of heartburn liquid.........................I still can't believe Gav-is-gon..:smile:
CouldntThinkOfAUsername
5 Feb 17 #24
Never seen yours but mine is clearly better.
Kebo88
5 Feb 17 #22
One problem with Peptac is the taste of it I found horrendous!! Had to bin it and get Gaviscon....But if u can take the taste of peptac your on a winner and the loser is your stomach Acid
634miyamoto
5 Feb 17 #21
pepsi works too
nickhale756
5 Feb 17 2 #20
Al the major supermarkets do their own brand of Gaviscon at about half the price and the composition is almost identical. I always use ASDA's
sueyc
5 Feb 17 #9
this is what I get for free under minor ailments scheme made me feel like I was drinking camomile lotion lol does work but not as pleasant as the dearer stuff but can't complain since free
pink_elephant to sueyc
5 Feb 17 #13
Didn't know you could get this on the minor ailments scheme. Do you just tell them you got indigestion?
Magister to sueyc
5 Feb 17 #19
You probably meant calamine lotion. Must be terrible to have an itchy inside.
lukeo44
5 Feb 17 1 #18
Thanks! I was only making an ironic throwaway statement in jest. Seems to have touched a nerve though :confused:
Magister
5 Feb 17 1 #17
He probably moved down there from up here.
lukeo44
5 Feb 17 3 #7
I'd sooner pay the extra not to have to live up North :stuck_out_tongue:
Newbold to lukeo44
5 Feb 17 39 #10
You obviously have no idea how much better it is up here than in most parts of the south (and I've lived south and north) - much nicer houses, much lower prices, open countryside, easy access to beautiful coastlines, friendlier people. And best of all - no awful Londoners. :smile:
lianne21 to lukeo44
5 Feb 17 2 #14
Oh my goodness, a Southerner with a sense of humour !!
Magister to lukeo44
5 Feb 17 3 #16
We'd sooner pay the extra for you to stay down in that hellhole called the South.
lianne21
5 Feb 17 4 #15
No you have to say your feet are painful.
mjunaid106
5 Feb 17 #12
They work the same way but Gaviscon has far better flavour.
ToneC
5 Feb 17 1 #11
Thanks for the tip
benjammin316
5 Feb 17 8 #6
Value spaghetti hoops cost less than heinz too folks
Newbold to benjammin316
5 Feb 17 2 #8
Possibly. But Peptac Liquid has almost exactly the same ingredients as Gaviscon Liquid, and for that reason will do exactly what Gaviscon Liquid will do, and is every bit as effective, for less than half the price.

You can get it from Weldricks for £2.99 (free click and collect) or you can spend £35 (12 bottles of Peptac will do it) and get free delivery to your home.

You may even find it cheaper in your local pharmacy - though Boots and a lot of stores choose not to sell it simply because they make far more out of you by selling you the much more expensive Gaviscon.

If you want to pay twice as much for the same thing with a different label, feel free. :wink:
saveafew
5 Feb 17 18 #3
I found it was easier to stop eating at the mother inlaws.
ryancurly
5 Feb 17 2 #2
ranitidine is also very good and fast action it's tablets that can be bought in the drug isle at Tesco or the chemists it's about £1.50 for 8 75mg
gabesdad
5 Feb 17 #1
Prefer Pepto-Bismol myself. Got some in the US a few years back before it could be bought here. Works very quickly in my experience.
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Kids Foldaway Seat And Storage Box C&C
3 stars +182

Kids Foldaway Seat And Storage Box C&C

£4 £7 The Works10 Oct 17
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Washing up bowl / coloured tub Asda
3 stars +159

Washing up bowl / coloured tub Asda

£0.10 George (Asda George)10 Oct 17
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Ultimate Rotary Can Opener - WHITE AND GREEN with code
3 stars +141

Ultimate Rotary Can Opener - WHITE AND GREEN with code

£0.68 GearBest10 Oct 17
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Pyrex square dish 21cm x 21cm
3 stars +170

Pyrex square dish 21cm x 21cm

£0.50
Instore Morrisons10 Oct 17
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Whyte & Mackay Special Blended Scotch Whisky 70cl
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Whyte & Mackay Special Blended Scotch Whisky 70cl

£10 Sainsburys10 Oct 17
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Huawei Smart Watch with Link Band Silver
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Huawei Smart Watch with Link Band Silver

£149 Huawei Honor Store10 Oct 17
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ASUS G11CD Gaming PC
4 stars +361

ASUS G11CD Gaming PC

£499.97 Currys10 Oct 17
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iPhone lightning cable - super cheap (C&C)
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iPhone lightning cable - super cheap (C&C)

£1.97 Currys10 Oct 17
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Xbox One Elite controller PLUS either Middle-earth: Shadow of War or Forza Motorsport 7
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Lego Friends Calender
3 stars +168

Lego Friends Calender

£15.98
£3.99 P&P + options Amazon UK10 Oct 17
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3 stars +179

Double LEGO VIP Points

Lego10 Oct 17
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Graco Fast Action Fold Travel System in Bowtie Bear @ Tesco Direct (more in OP)
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Graco Fast Action Fold Travel System in Bowtie Bear @ Tesco Direct (more in OP)

£98 £200 Tesco Direct10 Oct 17
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Gears Of War 4 Steelbook Edition (Xbox One) (Open Box)
3 stars +129

Gears Of War 4 Steelbook Edition (Xbox One) (Open Box)

£12.99 Studentcomputers.co.uk10 Oct 17
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The Body Shop Sale Now On Plus 50% Code when you spend
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The Body Shop Sale Now On Plus 50% Code when you spend

£40
Free P&P 10 Oct 17
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