i once played a game at 29fps and it made me get a nosebleed. conversely, playing at 61fps reduces my stress levels and makes me more attractive to my usually bored wife. i mean thats just science - they aren't just numbers.

Placed an order yesterday but something went wrong with the card authentication and the order failed, and I have to wait 5 days for my funds to come back out of limbo.

Hopefully the Argos deal will be available by then as it ends 12th March. Or maybe Amazon will give us a Horizon Pro bundle if we all cross our fingers.

Got a refund rearranged since they wouldn't order the lower price for me, didn't even have to return it as they recalled it from the delivery service...

now to try and score that argos deal..

PS4 Pro Rise of the Tomb Raider does use checkerboarding. 2160p checkerboard, this is from the devs who Digital Foundry contacted.

Your missing a trick mate, the Wii U had some of the best games this generation. Your never too old to enjoy Zelda, Bayonetta or Mario, all of which kept me hooked for weeks and dragged me away from my gaming PC.

Just get the regular model then. It's basically half the price of this.

I don't detest everything Nintendo. I just feel that I outgrew Nintendo after the Gamecube and I'm not their target audience anymore.

Yeah, I plan to get a PS4 at the end of its lifecycle and play any games I missed.

I think the perfect combo with a gaming PC is a Switch as it adds portability, but only if you like Nintendos IP. No point getting an Xbox, with cross play offering most of the exclusive on the PC it kinda makes it pointless. Everyone to their own though, no doubt some people on here will detest anything Nintendo but for me it's the perfect combo.

Well i have a gaming PC and a 4K TV but won't put many hours through the PS4 and really only buying to play Horizon and crash bandicoot!

In the UK at least, PSN credit can almost always be found for less than its market value. If you know what you're doing then there should never really be any reason to pay full price for it.

I am pretty much in the same boot , Plus you can still use the o2 credit deal £10 for £20 for any digital sales or 12 monthly subs for PSN....

Depends on you. Do you have a 4k TV and also how often do you intend on using it?

Tomb Raider didn't use the Checker boarding AFAIK. They essentially took the Windows version and then just scaled it back a bit to work with the Pro's enhanced GPU.

IMHO it is worth having a gaming PC and a PS4 (not necessarily Pro) these days. There are bargains galore to be had on the PC and although I greatly dislike the PS4 as a platform, it is pretty much the only console with exclusives that still pique my interest.

True, Watchdogs does run well and they have done a good job, but it's an exception. Take Tomb Raider, it looks dramatically different on the Pro (quality is dialled back considerably) yet it runs at 40 FPS on max settings on a 1070.

Don't get me wrong the PS4 Pro is great for 4K on a limited budget. But if you already have a PC with a decent CPU hooked up to your TV then drop in a 1070 and you can't go wrong, especially now prices are dropping.

Also to add the 1080 is a beast, I have never struggled to run anything at 4K and the difference in quality between the PS4 Pro is night and day. Most games are 60 FPS+ with high settings and in true 4K. It's impossible to compare as it's on another level. The ti will be insane.

My mate was instantly converted after playing Titanfall 2 and BF1 on my rig, he sold his pro and invested in a high-end PC.

is the pro worth the extra over the current £199.99 deal at amazon / argos?

Got the Pro with HZD. Good stuff shopto.

Would be nice. I could more easily convince my far better half to buy me one for Christmas then. :laughing:

No it doesn't. The PS4 Pro uses a custom checker boarding technique to essentially replicate a 4k image. That's why games like Watch Dogs 2 that take full advantage of that technology look comparable to the PC version running at high-ultra settings. The PC literally has no comparable technology right now and the only way to do 4k on a PC is true 4k. Is that a superior alternative? Most definitely but you're not going to get that kind of performance out of a 1070 or even a 1080 most of the time.

And just to be clear, as others on here will tell you, I am definitely no PS4 fanboy. I actually hate the damn thing and I think it has been the most undeservedly successful console since the PS2. Unfortunately when it comes to 4k on a reasonable budget atm though, the PS4 Pro wins hands down.

Some of the guys have never kissed a girl mate.

Or you could just pretend that games are supposed to be fun, enjoyable experiences and get lost in the lore, story, world, whatever, and forget how many pixels you're looking at, because it's really not that important.

Then you could spend more money on games, and less money on tech. 1080 this and 4K this and 60FPS that, it's all justifying why you just spend £700 on a piece of tech. Just play the damn games :smile:

I'm hoping once Scorpio comes out the Pro will drop in price to less than £300

I agree, but in comparison to a PS4 Pro which is touted as a 4k console it offers significantly better performance at 4k.

If you want the best 4k performance then a 1080 or the new 1080 ti. I have a 1080 and it runs 4k in most games at 60 FPS, even at high settings.

Personally I run at 1440p as gaming at 100+ FPS at 144hz is sublime.

The 1070 is no 4k card. I know, I've owned one for the largest part of a year. It blows the ps4 out of the water for sure but it was not designed for 4k.

I refuse to use them again. Some time back I returned a game to them and my bank account had changed in the mean time with the refund going to the closed account. In this circumstance the payment gets immediately refunded by the bank (I checked and confirmed this had happened) but shopto refused to refund me too my new account leaving me out of pocket.

I just got the confirmation. I guess I was one of the lucky ones! :smiley:

You can't, so depends on how much you want to play Horizon.

Each platform has its own exclusives so what you lose on one you gain on another.

Consoles do not run any where near high settings though, they are usually equivalent to medium/low. At these settings 4K 60 FPS is achievable.

Not maxed out or even on high settings, you ain't. Got a GTX1070 myself and it's definitely not a 4K 60fps card.

How many FPS can you play Horizon Zero Dawn at on your PC?

Or use the same cash to upgrade your PC with a 1070 to experience real 4k at 60+ FPS

Tbh I don't really use my PS4 enough to justify the high price of the Pro atm. If it was under £250 then I'd probably bite but at £350 its a hard sell for me. I have Horizon now and will probably make my way through that over the next few weeks however that's going to be the first game I've played on my PS4 since Christmas.

Got a dispatched email at £344 as well. Better have HZD included. :smiley:

Thanks for sharing OP

I feel the same in general about a pro, but will be hanging on for a 249 deal, one is bound to drop, crazier prices have happened

I suggested selling your current ps4 and then buying a pro

I think I got lucky. I originally ordered at 364 and someone mentioned it was 344 so I wnt back on there and the price was 344 so I ordered again. Called to confirm the price was correct and they confirmed on the phone and cancelled my 364 order so I processed my payment early and waited. I then got the dispatch confirmation earlier this afternoon.

Looks like I was fortunate with the timing.

Bought it at £344, but haven't received a confirmation on the delivery yet...

Yeah I think some people just got lucky and looked at the website at the right time. I'm half tempted to message shopto.net saying I saw a different price at the time and see what they come back with.

I don't think it was charging people for the game before and that was why. The console solus pack is £344.

It showed £344 for me earlier. Just visited again and its £364. I assume someone bungled.

Just had my "DPD" despatch Email.

Paid £344.86 & that's the amount showing on my Invoice & On PayPal!

Happy Days!!

The price is showing £364 how did you and many others get it for £20 less?

I quoted the wrong person my bad.

I didn't get it for £20, its always shown as £364 for me. I asking how the others managed to get it cheaper.

The price is showing £364 how did you and many others get it for £20 less?

Showing £364.86 on payment. Not £344....... someone care to explain how they got this payment if genuine.

My payment confirmation Email is showing £364.85? Have I done something wrong?

Just got my Dispatch notification

PS4 Pro 1TB + Horizon:Zero Dawn
£344.86

Edit: Might be worth updating the deal?

Happy Bunny

I've been on the fence about ordering myself a PS4 Pro and have been checked Amazons prices regularly, this was clincher for me. Thanks OP. Ordered and heat added.

Got a dispatched email at £344. And it seems there are no PS4 pro bundles at all. So horizon dawn will be separate?

I've just got the confirmation email,
PS4 Pro 1TB Console + Horizon Zero Dawn for £344.86

Hopefully no surprises tomorrow

Will the game be a "not to be sold separately" version, do you know?

Bargain @ the £344 price - hope someone managed to grab it.

The price is back up, what does your preorder show?

​No point in having 2 ps4's in the house , plus I'm not that desperate since I have my PC for better graphics and nicer frame rates

Why? I'm doing the exact same thing. If/when my original PS4 breaks and if I can't fix it then I'll buy a Pro. There just isn't enough in there to justify the price and an impromptu upgrade IMHO.

Samsung KS7000 For £999 here with 6 year warranty. :wink:

49 inch version is available for £849 on the site too.

Do want, no 4k tv yet though and I do need a new television as my current Samsung is shot. Just cant bring myself to invest the time in researching a good tv for under £1000, anyone wanna do the leg work for me :man: - would be for chromecast streaming and PS4 only.

how good are shopto? any concerns regarding returns/refunds/repairs etc? and do they take payment upfront or when dispatched?

bargain at 344.86 if people can get it for this price

I'm sure no-one on here knows if this is glitch or not...

The site says 15% off now instead of 10%, I'm in the same boat as you, the one I placed this morning was not a pre-order as it showed in stock. easy enough to cancel it if they refuse to honour the lower price other people here have got.

If they revert to the original then, no harm done.

Is this a glitch? I pre-ordered earlier at 364 and it still shows as 364 on my account. I have done a second pre-order which is showing as 344. I saw the console on it's own was 344 earlier - will shopto honor this? I need to cancel one of my pre-orders.

Starting to get close to the £350 with a new game that I have been waiting for. :man:

I ordered it this morning at the old price it was saying in stock, not preorder, as usual I always go for things at the wrong time... I've messaged them to confirm they'll honour this.

This is now showing as £344 BTW an extra £20 off...

I'm currently thinking of getting a PS4 is it worth gettting the pro over the slim? I don't have a 4k TV and not planning on getting one anytime soon. I have a an Xbox one which will be used for most of my gaming, so PS4 is only going to be for exclusives. Will games get any slow down in the slim compared to the pro, or is it just upscaled graphics?

i once played a game at 29fps and it made me get a nosebleed. conversely, playing at 61fps reduces my stress levels and makes me more attractive to my usually bored wife. i mean thats just science - they aren't just numbers.

Said there was stock when I placed my order, however I'm still awaiting confirmation email.

'Horizon is a technical masterpiece on PS4 and Pro'* - Eurogamer

*at 30fps.

I'll upgrade when everything is 60fps or not at all.

I've been playing video games at 60fps or higher for at least a decade, 30fps is not an enjoyable experience for me. In fact any drops below this (i.e. Last Guardian) are headache inducing.

Ordered but on Back Order - assuming out of stock

Anyone contacted shopto and know when they are expecting stock?

I'm hoping to have it in time to play Ghost Recon on the 7th.

Thanks for posting the deal.

Good price that, stock was hard to come by a while back!

Boom. Right in the nick of time. Ordered! Great find OP.

good find op, heat added

Waiting for my original ps4 to die before I go for a pro , no 4k TV though but still plenty of benefits , good price

It's nice in down sampled to 1080p too. As well as other benefits.

Have some heat. Best game to show off the pro..... sadly still waiting for my 4K TV to come down a bit more, otherwise I would have given in to this offer.