Nice size with full HD screen and 3 year warranty. There also appears to be an empty M2 so you can add an additional hard drive, can't be certain though.
In my experience, HP business laptops are reliable but home laptops tend to experience problems and can have relatively noisy fans. I presume from the 'pro' this is more aimed at business so might be okay. Overall a pretty good deal on the face of it if you don't mind a 14" screen rather than 15.6".
Gkains to MarkShopper
19 Feb 171#2
ProBook is the cheapest business range similar to a Dell Vostro or a Lenovo Thinkpad L or E range.
My i7 640 is falling to bits. It's lived on a dock for most of its two years, but the lower panel doesn't stay attached, and the screen bezel is coming away on the lower right corner - coincidentally where the fan/heatsink is when the machine is run closed. In the BIOS it's set to fan always on when on A/C so should really be OK being run closed.
The older 84** Elitebooks were like tanks but seemed a lot more robust.
Musicrab
19 Feb 17#3
Good deal during rising prices; 3 year warranty is worth about £50; may be worth taking a picture of the screen if you buy just to ensure that its not an error ; part number X0Q83ES#BUN is consistent across the BT sites to include the 3 year warranty.
K1LLER_HORNET
19 Feb 17#4
TN Panel :disappointed:
winchman to K1LLER_HORNET
19 Feb 17#6
I know they are cheaper but they also use less power than IPS screens. It's not as if this is a gaming machine.
hatchers
19 Feb 17#5
I really need a Windows 7 laptop that I could dual boot W8.1 on. Would this fit the bill or does anyone know of anything cheaper? I prefer something new rather than a refurb.
It seems hard to find W7 laptops now (except for really expensive ones or really old refurbs).
I've seen ones like this but I heard bad stuff about HP so wasn't sure:
I have a W10 PC from the Dell outlet and am very happy with it and would buy another one but they only seem to do W10 laptops now so it's too late for a W7 one it seems.
K1LLER_HORNET
19 Feb 171#7
What?
A gaming machine would have a TN panel for fast response times. That's the argument thrown around anyway.
Not that I'd accept that as an excuse to use a **** poor panel type in anything you have to look at for extended periods of time.
CampGareth
20 Feb 17#8
Cheaper yes, use less power? I suppose they have dimmer backlights with worse colour space coverage and hence they consume less but how much power are we talking here?
I can see why they've gone with a TN panel but it's still disappointing in an age when even a £50 tablet gets an IPS display. The thing I spend 95% of my time doing with a laptop is looking at the display so make it a nice one!
plewis00
20 Feb 17#9
You can still get good high-contrast TN panels as well as poor IPS panels. I would say resolution is more important than anything else on a non-gaming machine but I guess that can differ for others.
Well both of those are consumer laptops whereas this is a business one. So more serviceable which is nice. Think the 250 G5 uses a chassis not to dissimilar to this or an EliteBook (but not as strong) whereas Pavilion looks less durable.
ollie87
22 Feb 17#13
TN is better for gaming anyway, much faster than IPS
Blackfudge
22 Feb 171#14
I have this laptop, the ssd is m2 however you can add a 2.5 inch drive but you need to buy a adapter for it.
Noxia
22 Feb 17#15
Only if you play a lot of FPS, plus there are now 100hz+ IPS. Would rather have the higher IQ myself.
Cost isn't an object for true PCMR. Yes TN is cheaper but for those wanting the best of the best I'd be personally going IPS GSYNC monintor all day.
Ingramfv
22 Feb 17#20
Love this computer.
REAL_DEAL
22 Feb 17#21
Anyone know the weight?
winchman to REAL_DEAL
22 Feb 17#23
1.7kg I believe.
As for the other laptops people have shown, this one is lighter, arguably better looking, 15" is a bit bulky for my liking, find 13/14in a better size for moving round with.
Rom
22 Feb 17#22
My mum's been after a new laptop for a few weeks but there haven't been many deals around lately, anyone got a recommendation?
I want 15.6", 1080, preferably SSD though I'll swap out if necessary. Processor not too important, she's no gamer :stuck_out_tongue:
What is supposed to contradict what I said? Don't tell me Reddit users are some kind of authority :laughing:
Caste system within a caste system, 1440p+ IPS or bust. Anyway this is off topic, IPS > TN, cost isn't a factor, plus you said TN was 'faster' which in itself was wrong. End of.
minicale
22 Feb 171#27
Not a fan of the mobile i3s but for 8gb of ram a 250gb ssd and a 1080p screen this looks like a good buy especially as it is a 14" form factor.
bAZZA279
22 Feb 17#28
There seems to be 2 options one with Win10 Pro and this one that says Win7 Pro but then Win10 Pro in description, prices are different (not much) and the Win10 version only had 1 left? Could this be Win7 with an upgrade option?
winchman to bAZZA279
22 Feb 17#29
The other option is more and doesn't come with the 3 year warranty.
It's not clear if it's 7 or 10, but maybe it's 10 with an option to change to 7..
ollie87
22 Feb 17#30
You're the reason people play games on consoles instead of joining the PCMR, just so you know.
Being snobby about parts/other people's rigs is literally the opposite of the PCMR ethos.
Noxia
22 Feb 17#31
We must read different internets. Ethos? Get real. As long as people have fun that is all that matters though.
qwerta369
22 Feb 17#32
I still have my HP ProBook 4530s that I bought via HUKD back in 2012. Hackintoshed since day 1 and still works beautifully.
How do you find the screen? And don't tell me, open the lid ;-)
support11
23 Feb 17#37
AVOID HP LAPTOPS
TI am a service technician running my own business for 15 years and HP are the most common laptops we receive and even less than 1 year old they are VERY PROBLEMATIC and fail at all levels.
Gkains to support11
23 Feb 17#38
But are you talking about HP consumer or business class?
ProBook, EliteBook and ZBook are a bit different than some cheaply made Pavilion. Obviously the quest for 'ever thinner' hasn't help longevity (thanks Apple!), but the older pre-Haswell Elitebook (8470p for instance) were build like a tank making ThinkPad T's look flimsy.
The HP Pavilion DV6000 series on the other hand were some of the most unreliable laptops ever made. Yes, they had the unforeseen bad luck of using those Nvidia chips with the solder defects (bumpgate), but their cooling was so bad that they were probably the first lot to fail due Nvidia's incompetence.
Noxia to support11
23 Feb 171#39
They are also the biggest seller right? Almost like there is some kind of correlation there.
amy606
23 Feb 17#40
Im after a new laptop as mines on the way out it keeps just shutting down not long after powering up. Can anyone recommend a decent laptop? Id want it to be pretty snappy and need a cd drive...also prefer to go down the ssd. Any help would be ace
winchman to amy606
23 Feb 17#41
Sure you don't just need a new battery for £30ish, can always add an ssd for £50.
As far as a new laptop goes, depends how much you want to spend.
amy606
23 Feb 17#42
Around the £500 mark
winchman to amy606
24 Feb 17#43
There is nothing wrong with this HP if 14in screen is suitable. I think its a much better size than 15" if you have to carry it around or you often sit on the sofa with it on your lap. And it comes with a 3 year warranty.
I need an cd/dvd drive so I can put my music onto my ipod
qwerta369 to amy606
24 Feb 171#45
What year do you live in?!
winchman to amy606
24 Feb 17#46
Ok, so you can either buy a 15" laptop as most smaller than that don't come with Cd/DVD drive, or you buy a smaller laptop and a USB CD/DVD drive for apx £25 like this https://www.amazon.co.uk/LG-GP57EB-Ultra-Portable-DVD-RW/dp/B00OIZ1HBY/ the advantage being that most of the time you probably don't need to carry it round.
amy606
24 Feb 171#47
One that needs a laptop with a cd drive to put music on my ipod
amy606
24 Feb 17#48
Ooh that sounds like a plan the lg cd/dvd drive looks good
Opening post
HP ProBook 440 G3 - 14" - Core i3 6100U - 8 GB RAM - 256 GB SSD
Product Type
Notebook
Processor
Intel Core i3 (6th Gen) 6100U / 2.3 GHz / 3 MB Cache
Memory
8 GB DDR4
Storage
256 GB SSD
Optical Drive
No optical drive
Display
14" LED backlight 1920 x 1080
Graphics
Intel HD Graphics 520
Integrated Webcam
Yes
Networking
Gigabit Ethernet
Dimensions (WxDxH)
33.92 cm 2.09 cm
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In my experience, HP business laptops are reliable but home laptops tend to experience problems and can have relatively noisy fans. I presume from the 'pro' this is more aimed at business so might be okay. Overall a pretty good deal on the face of it if you don't mind a 14" screen rather than 15.6".
The hardware manual doesn't say the M.2 is optional so it should be on all of them. The two official HP part numbers are a 256GB drive (826393-00) and a 128GB drive (826392-00) which both seem to be 80mm which is good and from the NBC review:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/HP-ProBook-440-G3-Notebook-Review.156151.0.html
it seems to have the thread for the 42mm size too. (But not 60mm from the look of it.)
EDIT: Crucial also list 2280 M.2 drives on their page:
http://uk.crucial.com/gbr/en/compatible-upgrade-for/HP---Compaq/probook-440-g3-(ddr3)
The older 84** Elitebooks were like tanks but seemed a lot more robust.
It seems hard to find W7 laptops now (except for really expensive ones or really old refurbs).
I've seen ones like this but I heard bad stuff about HP so wasn't sure:
http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/hp-250-g5-core-i3-5005u-2ghz-4gb-500gb-dvd-rw-15.6-inch-windows-7-professio-w4m90ea/version.asp
http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/hp-250-g5-core-i5-6200u-2.3-ghz-4gb-500gb-dvd-rw-15.6-inch-windows-7-profes-w4n13ea/version.asp
I have a W10 PC from the Dell outlet and am very happy with it and would buy another one but they only seem to do W10 laptops now so it's too late for a W7 one it seems.
A gaming machine would have a TN panel for fast response times. That's the argument thrown around anyway.
Not that I'd accept that as an excuse to use a **** poor panel type in anything you have to look at for extended periods of time.
I can see why they've gone with a TN panel but it's still disappointing in an age when even a £50 tablet gets an IPS display. The thing I spend 95% of my time doing with a laptop is looking at the display so make it a nice one!
Previous deal for the 440.
http://www.ebuyer.com/762290-hp-250-g5-i5-laptop-x0q07es-x0q07es-abu?mkwid=sWA3N2WiH_dm&pcrid=51630194939&pkw=&pmt=&gclid=COvus-zKo9ICFfMW0woddQQJSA
Well both of those are consumer laptops whereas this is a business one. So more serviceable which is nice. Think the 250 G5 uses a chassis not to dissimilar to this or an EliteBook (but not as strong) whereas Pavilion looks less durable.
As for the other laptops people have shown, this one is lighter, arguably better looking, 15" is a bit bulky for my liking, find 13/14in a better size for moving round with.
I want 15.6", 1080, preferably SSD though I'll swap out if necessary. Processor not too important, she's no gamer :stuck_out_tongue:
Caste system within a caste system, 1440p+ IPS or bust. Anyway this is off topic, IPS > TN, cost isn't a factor, plus you said TN was 'faster' which in itself was wrong. End of.
It's not clear if it's 7 or 10, but maybe it's 10 with an option to change to 7..
Being snobby about parts/other people's rigs is literally the opposite of the PCMR ethos.
Anyone know if this model can be hackintoshed ?
https://www.tonymacx86.com/threads/hp-probook-440-g3-skylake.189961/
https://www.tonymacx86.com/threads/guide-hp-probook-elitebook-zbook-using-clover-uefi-hotpatch-10-11.189416/
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/best-300-laptop-deal-hukd-hp-probook-440-g3-14-core-i5-6200u-8-gb-ram-256-gb-ssd-2482529?p=28437654
TI am a service technician running my own business for 15 years and HP are the most common laptops we receive and even less than 1 year old they are VERY PROBLEMATIC and fail at all levels.
ProBook, EliteBook and ZBook are a bit different than some cheaply made Pavilion. Obviously the quest for 'ever thinner' hasn't help longevity (thanks Apple!), but the older pre-Haswell Elitebook (8470p for instance) were build like a tank making ThinkPad T's look flimsy.
The HP Pavilion DV6000 series on the other hand were some of the most unreliable laptops ever made. Yes, they had the unforeseen bad luck of using those Nvidia chips with the solder defects (bumpgate), but their cooling was so bad that they were probably the first lot to fail due Nvidia's incompetence.
As far as a new laptop goes, depends how much you want to spend.
You may prefer a 2 in 1 like this http://store.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=W8A14EA&opt=ABU&sel=NTB