This is a very old version of the Hive and I picked one up last time this same offer was on at screwfix, After installing I had nothing but problems with keeping a stable connection between the thermostat the receiver and the internet, simply put it wasnt fit for use (in my own experience). I sent it back and replaced it with the latest NEST unit, which just worked straight out the box and has been rock solid since, the NEST user interface on the thermostat, on my phone and on my laptop is very simple a pleasure to use. So if anyone is interested in my opinion avoid this unit and save yourself frustration and wasted time & effort. Cold from me.
callum84 to ro53ben
3 Feb 173#52
Not this again. Bet you cream your pants everytime you see a hive thread.
Are you here to "protect stupid people from themselves" as you put it last time. :wink:
jonohanson to ro53ben
3 Feb 173#40
Do you still get up to change the TV channel? I imagine people said the same when the remote control came around.
I have one, and Alexa, and Hue. I can sit in my chair and turn the heating on with my voice, or when i'm out I can set the heating to come on as we're travelling home. I can also set up a geo-fence so when I get close to home the heating comes one.
howbord to ro53ben
3 Feb 173#51
Dont buy one then
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ashleyh
7 Feb 171#60
To report back. I bought the Hearing and Hot Water version because it was the only one available.
I have a Hallstead Ace combi boiler. I checked the installation guide for the boiler and confirmed it uses 230/240v for the control/signalling input. Our combi boiler has a mechanical timer built in, so I set that to constant on. We had a Drayton RTS 1 manual thermostat in the hall. After isolating the mains supply I removed the cover from the thermostat and confirmed a neutral wire, a live wire, and the signalling wire back to the boiler connected to L3 on the Drayton backplate.
I had to change the backplate as the Hive Receiver need the Central Heating signal on L4 which had no terminal on the Drayton. Total time including setting up the Hive Hub and Wireless thermostat was under 30 minutes. All working perfectly and Alexa is now in control of our heating!
I hope this information proves useful. It is VITALLY important to determine your boiler control/signalling voltage before making any connections. Please get a qualified electrician in if you are unsure of anything. I accept no responsibility for the above information.
tonytiger to ashleyh
7 Feb 17#61
Excellent information. Thank you!
bkpatel
7 Feb 17#59
I too foolishly bought a hot water and heating one for a combi. Slightly off topic would my wireless thermostat with my current Bosch Worchester work with a ideal vogue? Or do I need a completely new setup?
my combi is in the garage and the thermostat in the house , both about 4 meters from each other with an external wall between them, and the virgin superhub is about no more than 7 meters away... all relatively short distances. I'm glad to hear others have had a more positive experience than me with the hive because I paid almost 3 times this price for my Nest.
deanos
4 Feb 17#56
got mine today, all working fine, thanks op
ro53ben
4 Feb 17#55
When you use your TV remote, does it turn on all the TVs in the house at the same time?
ashleyh
3 Feb 17#23
To clarify, I have just ordered the heating and hot water version as it was the only one available.
Can you not just use the CH connection on it?
Mind you if that was the case, why would they make two versions.
30 day returns policy, so worth a look I suppose, but would appreciate hearing from anyone that had use the CH + HW version on a. I'm I boiler. Thanks.
mickjack to ashleyh
3 Feb 17#45
I would think that may work Ash, not worked with these but did lots of the old mechanical timers.
I have a Worcester Bosch as they are "quality" but once out of warranty started turning off and would not reset. I've lost faith in them plus they only offer a 5 year warranty whereas everyone else offer more as standard. Even bexi, who I've never heard of, offer 7 as standard. Which makes me think they start developing faults after 5 years.
That's why I'm even considering ideal with their 10 year warranty.
ro53ben
3 Feb 17#38
I've never really seen the point in these.
jonohanson to ro53ben
3 Feb 173#40
Do you still get up to change the TV channel? I imagine people said the same when the remote control came around.
I have one, and Alexa, and Hue. I can sit in my chair and turn the heating on with my voice, or when i'm out I can set the heating to come on as we're travelling home. I can also set up a geo-fence so when I get close to home the heating comes one.
howbord to ro53ben
3 Feb 173#51
Dont buy one then
callum84 to ro53ben
3 Feb 173#52
Not this again. Bet you cream your pants everytime you see a hive thread.
Are you here to "protect stupid people from themselves" as you put it last time. :wink:
jonohanson
3 Feb 17#50
But if you want to turn it on when the timer is off then I you would need to interact, the joy of Hive is there is no messing with often awkward to setup timers, you set schedules in a web page, and it's just so much easier. Then if you want the heating on out side these times it's simple to do. I can also see graphs of temps and can see how long my house takes to reach various temps.
Yes a conventional timer would work, but Hive makes it simpler, and smarter. Plus at this cost it's cheaper than most 'dumb' timers!
Jamiep335
3 Feb 17#1
Is this all you need to work your heating from your mobile with there app?
No stock anywhere in the North West :disappointed:
ro53ben
3 Feb 17#47
My TV doesn't have a timer, my central heating does. It can turn itself on and off without me having to mess around with my phone. It also has a thermostat, so it comes on when it's cold.
InTheKnow444
3 Feb 17#46
got the Hive 2 with installation for £183 (deal was on here last December)
Best deal I have done on here
littel.helper
3 Feb 17#44
missed out again.. :disappointed:
wenx
3 Feb 17#43
Any available any where?
stanno
3 Feb 17#42
Not available for delivery or C&C
morrig
3 Feb 17#41
Valiant boilers for quality and value,but for more money go for Worcester.
Read the reviews on Screwfix and all good no problems using or fitting.
shidahmid
3 Feb 17#39
Hot got one ordered for delivery tomorrow :wink:
jarjarmustdie
3 Feb 17#37
Thanks got one paid ready to pick up heat added to take over 100 degrees so should start warming up now.
Miniwinnie
3 Feb 17#35
Many thanks - had this for a year or so now with no issues - bought one for girlfriend for Valentines day
welshblob to Miniwinnie
3 Feb 171#36
You old romantic !
bkpatel
3 Feb 17#32
Is this easy to install yourself or do you need to get someone in?
Thanks
welshblob to bkpatel
3 Feb 17#34
It depends how competent you are and what sort of wiring you currently have. It could be as simple as removing the old programmer and just replacing with the Hive equivalent if the back plate and wiring is the same.
Robo
3 Feb 17#33
Zero stock in my area
timetosurf
3 Feb 171#19
Ps it don't matter who buys it as it won't effect warranty. You will pay more for the boiler than you gas safe engineer but then he or she will add there Mark up on it. Hope that helps
bkpatel to timetosurf
3 Feb 17#31
I know very little about baxi they seem cheaper than others with 7 year guarantee. But like I said reputable wb failed after 6 years. Do they send engineers promptly or is it a slog when things go wrong? I had considered one. This will work with it?
Thanks for info
CloudHeaven
3 Feb 17#30
Yeah that's right both Hive thermostats are but the Nest wanted plugging in which for me was a deal breaker :disappointed:
I got two last time and installed one at my mum's house and one at mine. It's been rock solid and to be honest I've never used the thermostat to control anything (its there and reporting temp) so I wouldn't bother with the newer one.
Got this last time and it's been great! Only difference between this and the newer one is the actual stat design - everything else is the same and is compatible with the bulbs, switches, sensors etc.
If you really want the new style stat it's probably still cheaper buying this and then buying the v2 stat on its own.
XXBBXX
3 Feb 17#25
oos
XXBBXX
3 Feb 17#24
oos
Wilma.Rubble
3 Feb 17#20
will the version with the hot water work with a combi boiler or do I need the one without the hot water control
anniemay31105674 to Wilma.Rubble
3 Feb 17#22
Without water I have it it's best thing ever
Barge
3 Feb 17#21
I have the 2nd generation nest and can confirm that it is wireless!!
bkpatel
3 Feb 17#17
Sorry for sounding dumb. I was going to buy a new boiler and could I buy this instead of the manufacturers own version which is much more expensive and less capable?
Thanks in advance.
Ps anyone know about ideal vogue boilers. Any good? Good places to buy it from? Is it better/cheaper to buy it myself and get a gas safe guy to fit it? Warranty etc will still be valid?
timetosurf to bkpatel
3 Feb 17#18
Yes you can use this on a combi boiler. As for ideal and installer will say different things again one boiler manufacturer to another. Personally I am not a fan of ideal boilers and I prefer baxi. But of course that is my opinion. I guess look at price and warranty then make a decision.
Sid.Harper
3 Feb 171#16
Get tado. Set and forget, it knows when you're heading home and switches on, if you're away stays off. Works with echo too.
tek-monkey
3 Feb 17#15
Could you not get the dual use one but ignore the water side of it?
jaykay1975
3 Feb 174#5
This is a very old version of the Hive and I picked one up last time this same offer was on at screwfix, After installing I had nothing but problems with keeping a stable connection between the thermostat the receiver and the internet, simply put it wasnt fit for use (in my own experience). I sent it back and replaced it with the latest NEST unit, which just worked straight out the box and has been rock solid since, the NEST user interface on the thermostat, on my phone and on my laptop is very simple a pleasure to use. So if anyone is interested in my opinion avoid this unit and save yourself frustration and wasted time & effort. Cold from me.
spinks to jaykay1975
3 Feb 172#6
This is the older version. I picked one up last time it was on offer. For a combi you just need the version with heating controls. Not the hot water too.
Installation took me, with some googling of my existing unit wires, 15mins.
Not had any connection issues. Hub plugs into virgin router by Ethernet and receiver on boiler is about 5 meters away. Only issue come from the rubbish Virgin hub losing connection but then the device works from the wall unit to thermostat. Or worst case use the manual buttons on the receiver.
Brilliant kit. Yes the thermostat controller unit looks old. Just use it as a room thermostat and use the hub as controller.
We're on holiday and set it to 'holiday mode' as we forgot to do it from home.
CrazyBob to jaykay1975
3 Feb 171#7
How far from the receiver was the thermostat.
I am looking at putting a combi in the loft of a bungalow, so need something wireless to control it.
Tempted by the Nest though.
matengawhat to jaykay1975
3 Feb 17#14
Never had any issues with mine, have a largish 3 story house, recently bought some bulbs which at opposite end of house and were struggling with connection, called hive/bg and after 5 mins on phone with them trying to connect sent me a signal booster for free, no further issues and great service
sherbolton
3 Feb 171#13
I have the netatmo thermostat which is fully wireless.
swhdesigns
3 Feb 17#12
heating only out of stock everywhere within a 50 mile radius of me
bauer
3 Feb 171#11
Out of stock for heating only, wouldn't let me check out ffs
mistermoneysaver
3 Feb 171#10
Got this last time around. Brilliant unit.
CloudHeaven
3 Feb 17#9
I don't think the Nest thermostat is wireless, at least that's what I was told by the guy in JL when I went to buy it.I bought hive V2 in the end and it's excellent. Never had a single drop out and it's on the opposite side of a faily large (1930's all brick interior walls) house.
Treat yourself to an amazon echo and you'll think you're living on the Enterprise!
shorty1892
3 Feb 17#8
got this on offer last year. 100% with no issues. may not look cool but does what it says on the tin. you only use the phone app anyway.
Opening post
half price
deal of the day
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Are you here to "protect stupid people from themselves" as you put it last time. :wink:
I have one, and Alexa, and Hue. I can sit in my chair and turn the heating on with my voice, or when i'm out I can set the heating to come on as we're travelling home. I can also set up a geo-fence so when I get close to home the heating comes one.
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I have a Hallstead Ace combi boiler. I checked the installation guide for the boiler and confirmed it uses 230/240v for the control/signalling input. Our combi boiler has a mechanical timer built in, so I set that to constant on. We had a Drayton RTS 1 manual thermostat in the hall. After isolating the mains supply I removed the cover from the thermostat and confirmed a neutral wire, a live wire, and the signalling wire back to the boiler connected to L3 on the Drayton backplate.
I had to change the backplate as the Hive Receiver need the Central Heating signal on L4 which had no terminal on the Drayton. Total time including setting up the Hive Hub and Wireless thermostat was under 30 minutes. All working perfectly and Alexa is now in control of our heating!
I hope this information proves useful. It is VITALLY important to determine your boiler control/signalling voltage before making any connections. Please get a qualified electrician in if you are unsure of anything. I accept no responsibility for the above information.
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Can you not just use the CH connection on it?
Mind you if that was the case, why would they make two versions.
30 day returns policy, so worth a look I suppose, but would appreciate hearing from anyone that had use the CH + HW version on a. I'm I boiler. Thanks.
That's why I'm even considering ideal with their 10 year warranty.
I have one, and Alexa, and Hue. I can sit in my chair and turn the heating on with my voice, or when i'm out I can set the heating to come on as we're travelling home. I can also set up a geo-fence so when I get close to home the heating comes one.
Are you here to "protect stupid people from themselves" as you put it last time. :wink:
Yes a conventional timer would work, but Hive makes it simpler, and smarter. Plus at this cost it's cheaper than most 'dumb' timers!
says so on q&a
Best deal I have done on here
Read the reviews on Screwfix and all good no problems using or fitting.
Thanks
Thanks for info
Sorry for the confusion, I went for the hive V2 because it's battery powered so literally no wires at all.
Some useful info in the old thread.
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/hive-v1-smart-heating-controls-54-99-screwfix-2533395
If you really want the new style stat it's probably still cheaper buying this and then buying the v2 stat on its own.
Thanks in advance.
Ps anyone know about ideal vogue boilers. Any good? Good places to buy it from? Is it better/cheaper to buy it myself and get a gas safe guy to fit it? Warranty etc will still be valid?
Installation took me, with some googling of my existing unit wires, 15mins.
Not had any connection issues. Hub plugs into virgin router by Ethernet and receiver on boiler is about 5 meters away. Only issue come from the rubbish Virgin hub losing connection but then the device works from the wall unit to thermostat. Or worst case use the manual buttons on the receiver.
Brilliant kit. Yes the thermostat controller unit looks old. Just use it as a room thermostat and use the hub as controller.
We're on holiday and set it to 'holiday mode' as we forgot to do it from home.
I am looking at putting a combi in the loft of a bungalow, so need something wireless to control it.
Tempted by the Nest though.
Treat yourself to an amazon echo and you'll think you're living on the Enterprise!