The new Golf has Automation which will basically drive the car by itself upto 40mph in stop-start traffic
- simon-c
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g8spur
5 Feb 1734#2
I feel so much better after seeing all these lease deals on here. I used to scratch my head and wonder how the hell everyone is driving round in 30k cars but since discovering lease deals it all makes so much sense.
My banged up Peugeot isn't up to much sadly but I'm playing the long game and paying £300 a month into a private pension so hopefully later in life I'll get my chance to own some nice things.
fedex1401
5 Feb 1723#14
Looks like you just claimed that crown! Might've been better if you had bothered to state why. :man:
webrits to g8spur
5 Feb 1713#12
Dumbest comment of 2017 award
taker920
6 Feb 179#47
Only on HUKD would you come in with the intention of buying a new Golf but come away with a Dacia & higher pension contributions. :laughing:
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simonfowler23
26 Feb 17#78
deposit is bit high. at http://www.newvehiclediscounts.com they can drop your deposit right down. also new golf gtd 250 per month no deposit and 500 admin fee. ring to enquire as not advertised
STi_prodrive
9 Feb 17#77
I WANT THIS DEAL !
g8spur
5 Feb 1734#2
I feel so much better after seeing all these lease deals on here. I used to scratch my head and wonder how the hell everyone is driving round in 30k cars but since discovering lease deals it all makes so much sense.
My banged up Peugeot isn't up to much sadly but I'm playing the long game and paying £300 a month into a private pension so hopefully later in life I'll get my chance to own some nice things.
pablozzzzz to g8spur
5 Feb 172#4
biggest problem with pensions is that they make massive amount of money and pay peoples peanuts
defgimp to g8spur
5 Feb 171#5
Very true, many people (me included) were brought up with the idea of saving for a rainy day/retirement?
Unfortunately, some of them never actually make it that far?
I could never understand why everyone who drove a 2.8 Capri never went above 40 or wore a flat cap/trilby/retired, until you start saving for a rainy day/retirement and realise that you need to be that old before you can afford to insure it :smirk:
Nice to have something new once in a while, suppose that could be "hand-me-down" syndrome (if there is such a thing?) :smiley:
webrits to g8spur
5 Feb 1713#12
Dumbest comment of 2017 award
Macdory to g8spur
5 Feb 171#37
You're not going to get much of a retirement with only £3600 a year going into a pension pot - even less if you are spreading it around in various low return pots ... just saying ...
tmj2007 to g8spur
5 Feb 17#38
Life offsetting... why put off owning nice things now so that 'hopefully' you might in the future?
dnc316 to g8spur
6 Feb 171#44
And if you died tomorrow you couldn't even take your banged up Peugeot with you!
gods_mad_hatter to g8spur
6 Feb 17#74
i know how you feel.
rowland24 to g8spur
8 Feb 17#76
It's all good saying that but you may not be around to see your pension.
Macdory
7 Feb 17#75
I'd be even more reluctant to listen to anyone spouting nonsense about the stockmarket who only has £35k to play with ... hey big spender ...
ses6jwg
6 Feb 17#73
Exactly mate. In my early 20s I used to enjoy potching around with cars now its the opposite. I want something hassle free and safe that I can ferry the family around in. Leasing for us is an affordable way to do that. For £80 a month each we are driving around a brand new fiesta that looks the business and is completely reliable and affordable. No unexpected garage bills or MOT nightmares.
Also I do like to chop and change cars every 2-3 years.
A used car is a great buy if you find a good one and hang onto it for 10 years, but find a lemon or change your mind every 2-3 years like me you're better off leasing anyway.
marathonic
6 Feb 17#72
This is 100% true.
Leasing is also a good option at the other end of the scale, i.e. a brand new model of car is being released and you'd like to be one of the first to own - could be just what you desire or could be that the order books open at the time you need to change car for whatever reason. It'd be a big risk buying before they show up on the forecourts for a test drive but you could consider leasing if a good deal became available.
Many people do this for relatively safe choices like the new BMW 3-series expected to be revealed this Summer. You're 90%+ sure it's going to be a cracking car but, if it turns out to be a dud, you're only stuck with it for 2 years, both under warranty, and don't need to concern yourself with the resale value of the car.
Stevie.Badman
5 Feb 171#32
cold - 6k and it's never going to be your car
KCooperman to Stevie.Badman
6 Feb 171#71
What... did you actually expect to own it for £6k?! Some right idiots on here... if you don't understand the benifits of leasing why you even looking here?!
marathonic
6 Feb 17#70
This is pretty similar to my thought process when retirement planning. By investing funds in a range of dividend yielding stocks at an average yield of 4%, and allowing myself to withdraw 1% of the capital annually as well as these dividends, I need 20 times the annual cost to sustain that expense indefinitely.
As an example, the Sky Complete bundle costs £80 a month (£960 a year) so I need £19,200 in my pension pot if I want to prioritise Sky Complete during retirement. Of course, there are deals to be had with Sky and prices will rise through the years (as will dividends) - but it makes you think harder about whether or not you can do without something and how much funds you'll need upon retirement.
Extending on from that, if you consider a retiree that has undergone the above thought process, they might have £41,158.40 in their pension pot earmarked for leasing the likes of the recent Nissan Leaf costing £4,115.84 over two years. They have worry free motoring and are always under warranty.
ses6jwg
6 Feb 17#65
Weighing in on the lease debate. .. always owned cars. usually 3 to 5 years old. I like a sporty hatchback personally.
decided to go for our first lease this year. fiesta zetec s black edition 140 15k allowance, 3+35 £161 pcm + £299 admin fee
main attraction for me was the hassle factor. I look after cars so damage not an issue really. as I get into my late 20s the idea of a warranty is great.
plus it is nice driving around in a new car..ok so we don't own it. who cares. cars lose money hand over fist anyway.
mcaf123 to ses6jwg
6 Feb 171#69
Same for me. Late 20s as well and I just want peace of mind motoring. Already had the battery and clutch master cylinder replaced under warranty. I've got front and rear dashcams in my car running even when the car is off and parked, so if I notice any damage when I get back to the car, chances are I'll see it and look to recoup costs
ZeBadger
6 Feb 172#68
You could just leave your money in your bank account after getting the lease, you'd still be better off. £27.5k vs £22k with no risk.
£27.5k > £22k
People don't understand that it isn't just the cost of buying, it is the negative impact of depreciation.
Even my old 2nd-hand Audi was depreciating at around £1k a year, add to that maintenance costs (which one year for me was £2k!) and you are soon at the point where leasing is a better option as you always have a new car.
Back to the investing element though, here's my idea...
£35k in Funding Circle, returning 6.7% after bad-debt returns £2345 a year. Chuck 25% of that back into the pot to help keep up with inflation and you can pretty much lease something forever for the initial stake.
Edit: you may have to pay tax on the income, so maybe a bit more capital would be required.
lending900
6 Feb 17#64
Well... a house is a necessity and not considered as a luxury as a new car is or any car come to that fact.
This is why most of the nation is in a state.. having things they shouldn't really be able to afford and forever paying for it..
Kids walking around with £800 mobile phones.. massive luxury...
People leasing cars.. I'm not saying it's wrong or right but in all seriousness if you can't afford it then the lease doesn't make it affordable as long term cost.
And in terms of your house analogy, renting is considered more expensive than the mortgage so again is vice versa to leasing cars and people believe leasing is cheaper when in all reality it isn't... your paying to rent something you can't afford..
Put it this way, you could rent a mansion in Mayfair for £10k a night but would cost you £10m to buy... can you afford £10k.. maybe.. probably not the £10m.. hence why you don't do it!!!
So to wrap up.. I disagree with your comment..
m5rcc to lending900
6 Feb 173#67
A house is an asset that generally appreciates in value. A car is quite the opposite and depreciates in value.
If an asset appreciates, buy it. If it depreciates, lease it.
mcaf123
6 Feb 17#49
Leasing cars about to be facelifted or replaced with a new version are definitely the best deals to look out for. I got my Honda CR-V from a main dealer a few weeks before the facelift arrived in 2015 and consequently paid £45 a month less than anyone else was offering at the time for a decent mid spec car. Come replacement time I'll be looking for the same. I usually want the latest and greatest, but when seriously cheap deals can be had, I'm willing to compromise.
What a lot of people seem to miss about leasing is the fact that it's as close to fixed cost motoring you can get short of a fully maintained company car. Any issues will be covered under warranty and any damage will have to be repaired like any other car you own outright - either way you're paying to get it repaired or losing out on the resale value. After having to spend a fair bit of money on my 2 previously owned cars, I will probably lease for as long as I can
ses6jwg to mcaf123
6 Feb 17#66
this is what we did we got an end of life zetec s just been replaced with the st line same in all but name but much cheaper and better mileage allowance
vultan999
6 Feb 17#63
No. Because the value of a house is far higher than the value of a car, banks will make the tests much more difficult/stringent to secure a mortgage than to secure a lease for a car.
lending900
5 Feb 17#29
To be fair on a lot of these comments.. if you can't afford the new car then you shouldn't be able to afford the lease!
DJCriddz to lending900
6 Feb 17#62
So by definition, if you can't afford a new house then you can't afford to rent one?
ashleylangford503
6 Feb 17#61
This seems expensive for a lower model. I'm sure you can get the GTD for this price or a little more.
pothole
5 Feb 176#6
Is it really value for money if you're spending like £6.1k over two years just to lease a car? I don't really understand where the value is when it comes to leasing.
Not picking on anyone or any OP, just wanted to ask the question.
chrisom to pothole
5 Feb 172#8
it comes down to driving a new car . if you compare lease deals to purchasing a brand new car , the amount you potentially lose through depreciation , cost of car tax , savings interest lost if your were to purchase it outright with your own funds. it can work out cheaper to lease the same car drive it for 2 years , and hand it back .
so lease contract may cost £8 for 2 years , but a car might depreciate £10k in the same period. hence making it a better deal to lease over that time frame
118luke to pothole
5 Feb 173#11
Leasing certainly isn't designed for everyone.
If your a high mileage driver then probably better to own, also if you want to not have to continuously pay towards your car and not bothered about having a brand new one every three years then you might as well buy and keep driving it.
Some though are terrified that their car will break down after 3 years (even though cars have never been as reliable) so turn to leasing.
I have a company car and a car i bought as an ex-demonstrator 7 years ago. The ex-demo is now not costing me anything to buy (as i fully own it) and flies through the MOTs each year. By the time i come to selling it, i would be better off financially than leasing over the same length of time, plus i can do as many miles as i want and not have to pay excess charges (of course it will be worth a bit less because of more mileage).
Its all down to circumstances to be honest.
poi55on to pothole
6 Feb 171#60
The way I look at it, it's a 24k car, drive it off the forcourt and you've lost the VAT 4k, 2 years would prob see it drop to 11/12k So if you like changing your car regularly you've saved 6k on this deal. Not exact science, just the way I see it :wink:
KCooperman
6 Feb 17#59
Exactly, my last car was on pcp and had a small dent and curbed alloys, but because it was within the standard wear and tear guidlines I did not have to pay any charges what so ever. Even if you have a huge dent, they can only charge you the actual cost of repair.
It's the same as renting a house, you can't expect to get your deposit back if you have left it in poor condition..
m5rcc
6 Feb 17#58
And generally, most lease firms apply a standard wear and tear rule of allowing small areas of chipping, light scratches up to 25mm in length and dents up to 10mm, providing paint is not broken.
KCooperman
6 Feb 17#57
Your assuming someone wants to keep the same car forever! you will find some millionaires don't even own their cars outright because they only want them short term. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter if you own it outright, have it on finance or lease - you still get to drive around in a new car. So obviously the cheapest option is always going to be the best option, which in most cases in leasing.
If like me, you want to drive a new car every 2-3 years then it's a no brainer. If you want to keep it for ever then of course it makes sense to own it.
In terms of damaging a lease car, it's same stress as owning it. TBH, I would be more stressed having payed £30k cash for a car and damaging it, then worrying about being charged a fee by leasing company...
gedhickman1
6 Feb 171#56
Only if it is a DSG and has the cost option added.
dogsballs
6 Feb 17#54
these lease deals, is insurance included in the price or?
m5rcc to dogsballs
6 Feb 171#55
No - you take out your own insurance, just like you would if you bought the car.
m5rcc
6 Feb 17#53
Because the 7-speed dry clutch DSG is still having problems and, despite being designed as non-maintenance, it now requires a change of oil every 40,000 miles. Of course this is not applicable on a lease with such mileage, but they have been notorious for poor performance in accelerating from low speeds, like approaching/leaving a roundabout. The 6-speed wet clutch DSG is more reliable but it is in the process of being replaced by a better 7-speed wet clutch DSG across the range.
You don't really want to have the headache of going to a garage three months into a lease and wasting time.
vtec
6 Feb 17#52
reason?
marathonic
6 Feb 171#51
You do realise this is a non-formal deals website? Why do you feel the need to correct what was obviously the result of a mobile phone auto-correction? Regardless, what has financial advice got to do with spelling? Would you like some financial advice from Warren Buffet - or perhaps you'd prefer to receive such advice from the winner of the 2016 National Spelling Bee?
DonDraper
6 Feb 172#50
I have to say I'd be very reluctant to take financial advice from anyone who can't even spell the word lease (hint: there's no 't' in it).
marathonic
6 Feb 171#48
You're most welcome. For those that may not get it yet, here's an equation:
£31,350 in the stockmarket > car worth about £22,000
taker920
6 Feb 179#47
Only on HUKD would you come in with the intention of buying a new Golf but come away with a Dacia & higher pension contributions. :laughing:
marathonic
6 Feb 17#45
Those that drive new cars are usually those that understand the potential benefits of stockmarket investing as opposed to the fear of potential loses.
Personally, if I have £35,000 in my bank account earmarked for a car, my choice is:
Set aside £7,500 for a least and put the other £27,500 to work in the markets for an "expected" return of 14% over the 2 years - at the end, I've drove a new car for two years and have £31,350 in the stockmarket.
Alternatively, buy the £35,000 car outright. After 2 years, I'll have a car worth about £22,000.
Of course, there'll be plenty down years in the stockmarket where the above won't work. However, the intelligent investor doesn't look at the period of any 2 year lease in isolation. The long term expected returns may be 7% per annum. My next two year least may involve me losing 30% and the following one may involve me making 60%. If you don't understand, and embrace, such risk, then stick to you 15 year old bangers or your Dacia Dusters
g8spur to marathonic
6 Feb 171#46
I see the old "smart people do what I do, stupid people don't" method of debate. Good of you to explain it to us lesser beings though, how magnanimous of you.
tmj2007
5 Feb 17#43
There are ways and means to have both. As you say, each to their own. It's for that reason that I chose to be self-employed.
vtec
5 Feb 17#30
don't like manuals. any deals with dsg box?
m5rcc to vtec
5 Feb 17#42
Unless it has the new 7-speed wet clutch, avoid DSGs.
m5rcc
5 Feb 17#41
Then you do not understand the time value of money.
g8spur
5 Feb 17#40
Preferable to "living" now and working until you die perhaps. Horses for courses.
g8spur
5 Feb 17#39
Got to start somewhere bro.
DonDraper
5 Feb 17#36
Given that the market for used diesels is dropping like a stone, you'd be better off leasing this particular model Golf than suffering its high depreciation (relative to petrol versions) when you came to change it in 2 or 3 years time.
adamc11
5 Feb 171#35
Saying that buying is a better long term saving than leasing doesnt make sense - If you want to be HUKD savvy about it then look to lease end of line models on cars. You can always pick up great deals on them and by the end of the lease you wont even have paid off the depreciation.
I use my leon as an example, a £23k car roughly that after 3 years is worth £10-12k. After 3 years I will have paid 7550 on it. So I am SAVING money here by NOT owning. Its just a case of working out how much the car depreciates by over 3 years then finding a deal on it that works out cheaper than the depreciation.
You also cut out the annoying sales guys trying to rip you off when you want to change it....
Joshimitsu91
5 Feb 171#34
I think he was joking. Of course you don't get a brand new Golf for 6 grand. But what you do get is to drive a brand new Golf for 2 years at round about the same as said Golf would have depreciated if you'd bought it.
The.Equalizer
5 Feb 17#28
So is the car yours after the 2 years, or do you have to give it back?
The.Equalizer to The.Equalizer
5 Feb 17#31
ok after reading the thread in detail. looks like you give it back.
Not to sure about £6k for 2 years use. at the end of it, no car. If you start again on a new lease, another 6k please. 12 grand in 4 years and still no car at the end of it.
I'm sure it'll suit some, and i can definitely seer the benefit of no mechanical outlay or servicing, but it's not for me.
74BHP, WTF! and it needs a further facelift if you ask me!
Just noticed it comes with a no cost optional extra, full face balaclava, presumably so as no one can see you are actually driving this thing rather than for a bank robber hoping to make his escape with a 0-62 time of 19.........days.
muffboy
5 Feb 171#24
Yes we can all drive around in a £1000 banger and MOT it every year and spend further money on maintenance.
I prefer to drive expensive, quality cars given the chance and leasing/PCP deals are the way to go versus horrendous depreciation on most new cars, even premium brands. Having said that I have purchased outright a BMW with a list price of £54,000 that was pre registered to a dealer for £28,000. I also have a new Nissan Leaf @£125 a month over 24 months with no deposit. The deals are available for those prepared to do some research, HUKD, Parkers, HonestJohn, Carwow, to name a few.
JasonThomas2014
5 Feb 179#13
leasing is for poor people who want to pretend they're rich.... you dont even own the car as you have to fix evetything you break and any dents you make its ridiculous. Borrowing something you cant afford is never a good idea and those that quote 6k a year known better that there are more costs involved in leasing and the only benefit is you can show off against your neighbours or whatever....
fedex1401 to JasonThomas2014
5 Feb 173#15
Nonsense. While I personally prefer to buy nearly new, I know plenty of people I would not describe as poor, who live by the following: if it appreciates buy it, if it depreciates lease it. The leasing vs buying argument generally only works for those who want a new car every 2 or 3 years. :man:
alu355 to JasonThomas2014
5 Feb 173#19
So if you dent your own car you don't fix it?
russtyk to JasonThomas2014
5 Feb 171#23
Err, if you broke something on a car you owned I'm pretty sure you'd have to pay to get it fixed, although admittedly you might have a choice.
If all you want to do is show off, then leasing's a route you can go down, but for thousands of other people it's also a way of having a new reliable car at a fixed monthly cost.
It sounds like you know a few people who are leasing to show off.
Chrisrules334
5 Feb 17#22
Total cost £6,226.
Meh.
g8spur
5 Feb 17#21
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Alansmithee
5 Feb 17#20
It's possible to do both - it's about balance - I've saved since I was 18 and still managed to have a decent life.
alu355
5 Feb 172#18
If it's cheaper to lease than buy then you should lease.
Daaaavvveee
5 Feb 17#17
Depends if you will want another one in 2/3 years. If you take your 2 /3 years depreciation on a new car then compare it to the cost of the lease.
Majority of the time, you would save money by leasing
JasonThomas2014
5 Feb 171#16
why would you choose to lease if you can afford to buy? Leasing is renting. I know load of people who lease a car and are so stressed that anything will happen to it... it's pathetic
fedex1401
5 Feb 1723#14
Looks like you just claimed that crown! Might've been better if you had bothered to state why. :man:
MusaX
5 Feb 173#3
If you live il then... never leave today's work for tomorrow
g8spur to MusaX
5 Feb 171#10
True but given the average live expectancy it's probably safe to play the odds.
Tbf I use private pension as a general term for preparing for retirement. That £300 gets spread around a bit in various long term savings vehicles.
DodgyDC
5 Feb 171#9
Great thing about leasing is if you dont like the car you havent spend 35k on it and can give it back ... Cant wait to give my GTE back .... Charging a phev is a pain in the a#&e
adamc11
5 Feb 173#7
I will always lease my cars tbh, I'm paying £218 a month for a 1.4 leon fr technology 15k miles a year which works out roughly 7.5k for three years driving a £23k car with the added extras on it. I could never afford a car this nice if I was to hire purchase it and I wouldn't buy second hand unless it was a high end bimmer
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Volkswagen Golf GT Edition 1.6TDI 5 Door Manual.
Total Price of £6086.
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https://www.nationalvehiclesolutions.co.uk/Volkswagen-Golf-5DR-1.6-TDI-GT-Personal-Lease/47220
10k =
£141.98 inc VAT
£2400 INC VAT Initial Rental
£239.99 Inc VAT Admin Fee
The new Golf has Automation which will basically drive the car by itself upto 40mph in stop-start traffic
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My banged up Peugeot isn't up to much sadly but I'm playing the long game and paying £300 a month into a private pension so hopefully later in life I'll get my chance to own some nice things.
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My banged up Peugeot isn't up to much sadly but I'm playing the long game and paying £300 a month into a private pension so hopefully later in life I'll get my chance to own some nice things.
Unfortunately, some of them never actually make it that far?
I could never understand why everyone who drove a 2.8 Capri never went above 40 or wore a flat cap/trilby/retired, until you start saving for a rainy day/retirement and realise that you need to be that old before you can afford to insure it :smirk:
Nice to have something new once in a while, suppose that could be "hand-me-down" syndrome (if there is such a thing?) :smiley:
Also I do like to chop and change cars every 2-3 years.
A used car is a great buy if you find a good one and hang onto it for 10 years, but find a lemon or change your mind every 2-3 years like me you're better off leasing anyway.
Leasing is also a good option at the other end of the scale, i.e. a brand new model of car is being released and you'd like to be one of the first to own - could be just what you desire or could be that the order books open at the time you need to change car for whatever reason. It'd be a big risk buying before they show up on the forecourts for a test drive but you could consider leasing if a good deal became available.
Many people do this for relatively safe choices like the new BMW 3-series expected to be revealed this Summer. You're 90%+ sure it's going to be a cracking car but, if it turns out to be a dud, you're only stuck with it for 2 years, both under warranty, and don't need to concern yourself with the resale value of the car.
As an example, the Sky Complete bundle costs £80 a month (£960 a year) so I need £19,200 in my pension pot if I want to prioritise Sky Complete during retirement. Of course, there are deals to be had with Sky and prices will rise through the years (as will dividends) - but it makes you think harder about whether or not you can do without something and how much funds you'll need upon retirement.
Extending on from that, if you consider a retiree that has undergone the above thought process, they might have £41,158.40 in their pension pot earmarked for leasing the likes of the recent Nissan Leaf costing £4,115.84 over two years. They have worry free motoring and are always under warranty.
decided to go for our first lease this year. fiesta zetec s black edition 140 15k allowance, 3+35 £161 pcm + £299 admin fee
main attraction for me was the hassle factor. I look after cars so damage not an issue really. as I get into my late 20s the idea of a warranty is great.
plus it is nice driving around in a new car..ok so we don't own it. who cares. cars lose money hand over fist anyway.
£27.5k > £22k
People don't understand that it isn't just the cost of buying, it is the negative impact of depreciation.
Even my old 2nd-hand Audi was depreciating at around £1k a year, add to that maintenance costs (which one year for me was £2k!) and you are soon at the point where leasing is a better option as you always have a new car.
Back to the investing element though, here's my idea...
£35k in Funding Circle, returning 6.7% after bad-debt returns £2345 a year. Chuck 25% of that back into the pot to help keep up with inflation and you can pretty much lease something forever for the initial stake.
Edit: you may have to pay tax on the income, so maybe a bit more capital would be required.
This is why most of the nation is in a state.. having things they shouldn't really be able to afford and forever paying for it..
Kids walking around with £800 mobile phones.. massive luxury...
People leasing cars.. I'm not saying it's wrong or right but in all seriousness if you can't afford it then the lease doesn't make it affordable as long term cost.
And in terms of your house analogy, renting is considered more expensive than the mortgage so again is vice versa to leasing cars and people believe leasing is cheaper when in all reality it isn't... your paying to rent something you can't afford..
Put it this way, you could rent a mansion in Mayfair for £10k a night but would cost you £10m to buy... can you afford £10k.. maybe.. probably not the £10m.. hence why you don't do it!!!
So to wrap up.. I disagree with your comment..
If an asset appreciates, buy it. If it depreciates, lease it.
What a lot of people seem to miss about leasing is the fact that it's as close to fixed cost motoring you can get short of a fully maintained company car. Any issues will be covered under warranty and any damage will have to be repaired like any other car you own outright - either way you're paying to get it repaired or losing out on the resale value. After having to spend a fair bit of money on my 2 previously owned cars, I will probably lease for as long as I can
Not picking on anyone or any OP, just wanted to ask the question.
so lease contract may cost £8 for 2 years , but a car might depreciate £10k in the same period. hence making it a better deal to lease over that time frame
If your a high mileage driver then probably better to own, also if you want to not have to continuously pay towards your car and not bothered about having a brand new one every three years then you might as well buy and keep driving it.
Some though are terrified that their car will break down after 3 years (even though cars have never been as reliable) so turn to leasing.
I have a company car and a car i bought as an ex-demonstrator 7 years ago. The ex-demo is now not costing me anything to buy (as i fully own it) and flies through the MOTs each year. By the time i come to selling it, i would be better off financially than leasing over the same length of time, plus i can do as many miles as i want and not have to pay excess charges (of course it will be worth a bit less because of more mileage).
Its all down to circumstances to be honest.
It's the same as renting a house, you can't expect to get your deposit back if you have left it in poor condition..
If like me, you want to drive a new car every 2-3 years then it's a no brainer. If you want to keep it for ever then of course it makes sense to own it.
In terms of damaging a lease car, it's same stress as owning it. TBH, I would be more stressed having payed £30k cash for a car and damaging it, then worrying about being charged a fee by leasing company...
You don't really want to have the headache of going to a garage three months into a lease and wasting time.
£31,350 in the stockmarket > car worth about £22,000
Personally, if I have £35,000 in my bank account earmarked for a car, my choice is:
Set aside £7,500 for a least and put the other £27,500 to work in the markets for an "expected" return of 14% over the 2 years - at the end, I've drove a new car for two years and have £31,350 in the stockmarket.
Alternatively, buy the £35,000 car outright. After 2 years, I'll have a car worth about £22,000.
Of course, there'll be plenty down years in the stockmarket where the above won't work. However, the intelligent investor doesn't look at the period of any 2 year lease in isolation. The long term expected returns may be 7% per annum. My next two year least may involve me losing 30% and the following one may involve me making 60%. If you don't understand, and embrace, such risk, then stick to you 15 year old bangers or your Dacia Dusters
I use my leon as an example, a £23k car roughly that after 3 years is worth £10-12k. After 3 years I will have paid 7550 on it. So I am SAVING money here by NOT owning. Its just a case of working out how much the car depreciates by over 3 years then finding a deal on it that works out cheaper than the depreciation.
You also cut out the annoying sales guys trying to rip you off when you want to change it....
Not to sure about £6k for 2 years use. at the end of it, no car. If you start again on a new lease, another 6k please. 12 grand in 4 years and still no car at the end of it.
I'm sure it'll suit some, and i can definitely seer the benefit of no mechanical outlay or servicing, but it's not for me.
https://www.nationalvehiclesolutions.co.uk/Volkswagen-Golf-5DR-1.6-TDI-GT-Personal-Lease/47220
10k =
£141.98 inc VAT
£2400 INC VAT Initial Rental
£239.99 Inc VAT Admin Fee
The new Golf has Automation which will basically drive the car by itself upto 40mph in stop-start traffic
Just noticed it comes with a no cost optional extra, full face balaclava, presumably so as no one can see you are actually driving this thing rather than for a bank robber hoping to make his escape with a 0-62 time of 19.........days.
I prefer to drive expensive, quality cars given the chance and leasing/PCP deals are the way to go versus horrendous depreciation on most new cars, even premium brands. Having said that I have purchased outright a BMW with a list price of £54,000 that was pre registered to a dealer for £28,000. I also have a new Nissan Leaf @£125 a month over 24 months with no deposit. The deals are available for those prepared to do some research, HUKD, Parkers, HonestJohn, Carwow, to name a few.
If all you want to do is show off, then leasing's a route you can go down, but for thousands of other people it's also a way of having a new reliable car at a fixed monthly cost.
It sounds like you know a few people who are leasing to show off.
Meh.
Majority of the time, you would save money by leasing
Tbf I use private pension as a general term for preparing for retirement. That £300 gets spread around a bit in various long term savings vehicles.