BT so they will probably cancel the orders.

This is the same deal that got cancelled last month by BT.

Yep, my order was cancelled three weeks ago, same again I expect.

I ordered these 3 weeks ago and they cancelled my order.

Oh, I'm sorry. I think my use of English confused you. When I said that I was seeing if the results in published articles were reproducible and noticeable on our home systems, what I meant was... hmmm, how to dumb it down further? We were taking a tiny bit of time to see if the articles were lying. Spoiler alert: they weren't.

I'm also sorry to hear that you have some terrible wasting disease that means that 90 minutes is a full day for you. I'm healthy, so I get 16-17 hours of waking time each day. 90 minutes of playing games and drinking whisky with friends [real friends who I can meet in real life, if you're unfamiliar with the concept] before going out for the evening doesn't exactly destroy a day for us. I'm not sure where the blindfolding comes from, though..? We usually don't do that until after we get back in. :man:

Thank you for referencing Ars, TomsHardware and Techspot before then going on to produce benchmarks from... TechBuyersGuru. :smile: It's good to see you do have a sense of humour after all. (And, unless I'm much mistaken, weren't those taken from a quad-channel X99 system? :smile: Hardly representative for gamers in general, let alone the HUKD crowd!) You'll obviously see more benefit on a dual-channel system - and either you're technically-inept, and you didn't know the difference; or you did know, and purposely chose to use unrepresentative benchmarks to win Internet points at the risk of giving bad purchasing advice to everyone else reading. Again, don't be that horrible kind of person, please. Our comments here are supposed to help people with purchases.

It's nice to hear you talk about theoretical performance bottlenecks without referencing the effects in practice - that at least proves that you're not an experienced technical user. If you're interested in reading up on actual performance differences (of which I've checked just a couple for myself to confirm, and shared my experience with the people here - thank you for telling me I can't have experienced what I did experience and what all the other articles claim to have experienced, though), there's a nice collation of multiple articles and summarised results here. If you have any questions, I'm happy to help. :smiley:

(Your "8GB vs 16GB" graph seems to be on a completely different topic..? Still, it agrees with another link I shared a few hours ago - no apparent difference in game performance between 8GB and 16GB of RAM.)

I stopped reading after a paragraph. Had to go down outside.

Like I said, you were wrong, there's no difference kiddo.

Cancelled mine too.

Yes, mine was cancelled too.

Yep got canccelled

got cancellation email :disappointed:

Oh, I do apologise. Please excuse us for taking an hour and a half to pursue our interests (and for me to personally check whether or not it's worth spending extra money on faster RAM for a new build next month). No doubt when you've finished coolly writing your comments about memory speed on a UK deals website, you immediately take a limo across to your private jet, fly to Italy and spend the rest of the day playing electric guitar in the Colosseum. :man:

But I am interested in a source for your numbers - only three games will see a max of a 3% improvement? That doesn't match either my personal experience, or the articles available on the subject - and, as you've fallen into the trap of thinking the average frames per second is the important figure in this case, I think that exposes just what an expert you are on the subject. :wink: As mentioned repeatedly by everyone with any experience or technical knowledge, it's the minimum frame rates where you see/feel the benefit, and it's a lot more than 3% in most 2015-onwards AAA games. Let me guess: you're another DDR4-2133 owner? I'm sorry if that's the case, but please don't be that horrible kind of person that wants everyone else to make the same mistake you've made.

Flat lie from them. Availabble for 119.98.

Ah well... I guess I'll have to keep an eye on eBay for some mythical £80 bargains instead.

Lol as expected... Order cancelled. BT is so good at this :stuck_out_tongue:

Discontinued now - hope those that ordered get it

If i ordered now, will they cancel it then?

This isn't true and is one of the biggest myths going. Shops can refuse to sell an item to you that is a misprice. Contracts are only formed once cash is handed over. It's the same online and offline.

Wait until you're a company and one of your employees makes a mistake on entering a price potentially costing you £30k. See how sympathetic you are then.

Sounds like you guys know how to have a good time!

Memory speed will benefit any CPU bound games (FO4, 1-2 others) but we're talking apparently 1%-3% in terms of FPS, so 2FPS average gain @ 60FPS, but in GPU based games that won't be as evident if at all.

In terms of % cost increase from 2400 to 3200, you need to decide is that's worth while.

Oh, what testing have you done?

Last week someone here was doubting all of the articles that claim faster memory produces better in-game results (they didn't have a counter-argument or source showing the opposite, they were just making contrary statements based on nothing... other than the fact that they'd bought 2133 :wink:). Despite their incredibly poor argument for memory speed not making a difference, it did make me wonder if the results were a) reproducible and b) even noticeable.

A friend of mine has an i5-6600K with a 6GB 1060 and 16GB of DDR4-3200, and so we tried some of the games that seemed to benefit from faster memory. Testing was easy - just change the game settings to be high enough to average above 60, with some dips below 60 during playtime. On Fallout 4, Rise of the Tomb Raider and The Witcher 3, the difference between 2133 and 3200 is absolutely unmissable, whether you're watching or playing. The hitches are frequent and noticeable at 2133 in many areas (although some places, like that radioactive desert place in Fallout 4, didn't drop below 60 on either). We also tried The Division, to see if we could reproduce others' claims that there's no difference, and sure enough, we couldn't tell any.

Finally, as another friend was joining us, we set up Fallout 4 again (starting from Diamond City), but lied to our friend about which setting he was trying each time, so he was using the memory at 2133 when he thought it was 3200. He claimed the "2133" was much better, and suggested that the system must be automatically lowering the latency to give the "improved" performance (we set up everything manually, by the way - timings were consistent) - so that seemed to show conclusively that there's a noticeable improvement.

We wanted to test Ryse due to its claimed sometimes-hilarious performance on 2133, but none of us owned it a week ago - and now we all own it from that Humble Bundle that came out a couple of days later! I'm not sure if we'll get back to testing it.

So, what games did you test? And what memory speeds?

Bought a g4560 from them 2 weeks back or so £52 but why is there delivery charge for the ram?

Ok mate, so he sold you something completely incorrectly listed, I get it.

You'll forgive the scepticism on grounds your posted some shopped image and the auction is completely as odds with what you're claiming I'm sure.

You got a good deal, irrelevant to this deal mind you.

Not sure what you are trying to achieve here but as you are so doubtful in my replies and links just send the seller a pm asking did he sell 4x8 YES 4x8 to me Andrew for £80 posted on the date stated. Then you can come back here and apologise for doubting me.

Exactly, 8x8 not 8x4 as was mentioned and unsold as you said.

Ordered a few to sell on at a margin. Hope it goes through.

It's because as you increase voltage and clock speed you also increase latency
Overclocking ram is a game of diminishing returns
If the chips ran faster and at least as stable (in real world use) with those overclocked settings, chances are the engineers who designed it and marketing people who sell it would have made that the stock setting.
Think about it - if they didn't do that they'd be leaving money on the table

I overclock, but just barely, and I do it mostly for fun/hobby. I know that the most I'll get is 2-3fps better. If I want bigger improvements, I upgrade my hardware.

BT often cancels their orders. Though I have ordered, I don't expect it would be any different this time around.

I hate how companies have a right to cancel on a whim. If you go into a shop they have to honor the price on the label unless it's been switched, it shouldn't be different online. I ordered 1 set of this could do with a lot more but didn't want to be greedy. Probably will get cancelled anyways.

I'm confused... That's a link to 64GB (unsold), whereas you say you got 32GB.
Fair enough though, as the poster above says, people missel stuff on eBay all the time. I remember using a website years ago that searched for common misspellings of whatever you wanted to search for and you could get some absolute bargains that never showed up in the normal search.

Nice find, you got lucky there!

If you look at his sold items, the 2 auctions that they sold the RAM in were badly labelled. Titles were just "32GB Ram" and "Kingston Hyper x ram". In the item specifics, on one item they included the capacity ("32GB") and type ("DDR4"). On the other item they didn't even do that.

The result: Most people wouldn't have found these items. Anyone selecting RAM by speed or searching for "DDR 2400" or selecting 32GB in the filters would have missed them.

Often you get the best finds on eBay by browsing through hundreds of items instead of searching, to find items not well marked up.

I've heard similar, but as far as I'm aware it can be done. Best to ask on TomsHardware to be sure in my opinion.

Ok here is the link as he has sold the others.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kingston-HyperX-Fury-Black-DDR4-64GB-Kit-8x8GB-2133mhz-/122332504358?hash=item1c7b95e126%3Ag%3AXE0AAOSwImRYGit-&nma=true&si=I29LITwoZhLUQX3o4LIkVpnUWIw%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

PS: I don't BS :smiley: and if you are still doubting me I can Pm you my Paypal Invoice .

Because they might have a motherboard that only supports DDR4 and do not consider the faster speeds to be worth the premium.

How much does 16GB of 3200mhz+ memory currently cost?

But mismatch could cause issues from what I've heard.

As far as I'm aware you can buy it, as long as your board is DDR4, it will just run at a reduced speed.

I don't BS, so here's a heavily edited image to prove that...

Maybe you did buy it at that price, but that was a couple of weeks ago now and anything else on eBay now is in the region of twice what you paid.

Dammit! Wish my board supported this. I need another 8b of 2133 and Hyper fury x which I have one of is dam expensive!

I do not BS why would I do that!! I have edited the sellers name and item number as I am seriously thinking in buying his other 24 sticks ( If he still has them )

Best I found was an auction. I've bid on it. Winning at 102 pounds at the moment. I'm half hoping I lose though, I've bought like 128gb of ram in the past day just because I'm scared it will go up in price :neutral_face:

Strange, I just checked the listings including sold items and see nothing close to that price.

Item number if you'd be so kind? I call BS

Who where what when, link please!

That's a cracking deal. You would never know the difference between 2133 and 3000+ on DDR4 anyway, from all the testing I have done.

Sod it, worth a punt. I'm leaning towards a Ryzen build to replace my trusty 2600k one, but was considering keeping that around for VM use (32GB DDR3)
Might as well make a fresh start and flog the old stuff.

Yeah, thinking the same thing here. I bought from the UK store also, delivering to a family member in London. If one of my orders ships I'll be happy!

Thanks,

Unfortunately, don't have an Irish address available right now. Gave it a shot in the UK store, total for 2 kits £113.59 incl. delivery. Great price if they ship.

See my post above. When added to cart final charge Inc delivery appears as that.

Site probably just ****.

https://www.businessdirect.btireland.com/products/corsair-vengeance-lpx-16gb--2-x-8gb--ddr4-dimm-288-pin-2400mhz-cl14-memory-kit-cmk16gx4m2a2400c14-B9Q3.html

It's weird though, I'm looking in my account and it says I was charged 78 euro for my order, but in the order confirmation it said differently. Plus, it looked like it subtracted the delivery charge or vat rather than simply leaving it out.

Here's a screen

Don't yet know what my card has been charged with. I'll confirm when it goes through. To be honest, I'm happy with either! Ram prices are crazy these days.

Edit. Screen shows I should have been charged this. Let's wait and see.

Faster than 2400mhz DDR4 RAM? That's pretty decent for any setup

I bought 32GB 4x8Gb DDR4 HyperX 2133 MHz from EBay brand new £80 including delivery and he has 24 strips left.

Hmmmmmm probably not.

It would probably be a decent investment to buy all this stock and then sell it when ddr5 comes out.

Only if you were a member?

Member when you could get 16gb ddr3 for £50? I member

You'd think the eBay market would be flooded with the stuff, bringing used prices down... but they are still insanely high as well.

bite the bullet, going to build a new pc and was going for 3000mhz but at this price you cant argue. hopefully they deliver.

When DDR4 is cheaper than DDR3 :disappointed:

Great deal. I just bought it. Then I realized it's even cheaper on the bt Ireland site. Bought it for 52.85 eur including delivery! What's that, like a little over 40 quid?

For some reason I was charged even less than the listed price. Something probably bugged... Praying it gets delivered.

Hahaha :smile:

Standard Due date unavailable

Any good deals for 1 x 8gb stick of ddr3 1333mhz?

Thanks ordered, wanted to upgrade to 32gb from 16gb, noticed playing the rise of the tomb raider on max settings peaking at 15gb of ram!!

running 2x 980ti's @ 1.49ghz and 5820k @ 4.6ghz

Ordered this last time and a few days later, they cancelled... good luck, hope those that orderd get their memory sticks. I was fortunate enough to get Corsair Vegence LED's 16gb 3200mhz's for £88 on eBay... so turned out alright for me :laughing:

Nice.

Nice.

Thanks for this. Ordered some though not hopeful. I hope FatTony saw this!

P.S. Check your account regularly to see if the order has been cancelled.

Nice find! Managed to get this deal a couple of months ago from Eclipse Computers. They didn't cancel either and I paid half-price, although a few minutes after I ordered, the price went back up to £105.

Bad deal...If you're getting DDR4 why would you get one that has a similar speed to ddr3? At least get 3200mhz+

Ordered thanks ! Got 32gb ddr3 that needs to be flogged soon...

DDR3 is better, its true

I'm pretty sure his Ryzen build would be useless with out RAM, so he needs it.

Hot! Ordered, let's hope they send it out. Need ti for upcoming Ryzen build!

Heat added, if it was 3000mhz, I would be buying this to upgrade to 32gb

Is this for laptop or desktop.

I hav the yoga 510 i3 with 4gb.

No way you'll get it for this price. The real prices you'll find on Amazon UK and other sites.

Yep, my order was cancelled three weeks ago, same again I expect.

this will get cancelled

This is the same deal that got cancelled last month by BT.

I ordered these 3 weeks ago and they cancelled my order.

Great Price. Shame its not 3200 I would buy it

thought I had deja vu http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/corsair-vengeance-lpx-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-dimm-60-28-bt-shop-2608507#

With regards to the request order, it was the same with the ddr3 I mentioned, know someone who did order and managed to get them.

BT so they will probably cancel the orders.

Great price have some heat :smile: Although, still don't understand BT "order upon request" status anyone had any troubles ?

Extremely hot price, especially at 14-16-16-31.

Note that memory speed has started to noticeably impact games from the last couple of years, so if you're looking to put together a good gaming PC you may benefit from faster RAM, but for a cheapy gaming PC or an HTPC/encoder etc this is an absolutely fantastic deal.