High-end laptop for less than £900, CANT GET BETTER SPECS FOR LESS MONEY THAT I CAN SEE
Should be able to play most high end games on good settings
Just specced:- Processor (CPU) - Intel® Core™ i7 Quad Core Processor 7700HQ (2.8GHz, 3.8GHz Turbo) Memory (RAM) - 8GB Kingston SODIMM DDR4 2133MHz (1 x 8GB) Graphics Card - NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1050 Ti - 4.0GB GDDR5 1st Hard Disk - 120GB KINGSTON UV400 2.5" SSD
Chosen without an Operating system, you can get a W10 license a lot cheaper on ebay - or add £92 if you want to buy it from them.
Top comments
The_Hoff
15 Feb 175#3
Such a strange build.
CPU - Significantly better than any other component.
GPU - Underwhelming given CPU is much more capable than it.
SSD - Too small to be useful. 60GB Fallout 4 texture pack anyone? Not that a 1050 would play it well enough.
RAM - 8GB, ok for today but in 18 months? I'd want 16.
I'd have much preferred to see a decent i5 with a 250GB SSD, a 1060 and 16GB of RAM.
Not voting.
steevio_uk
15 Feb 174#23
I think the fact that some people require a decent laptop first and foremost, rather than just purely looking at gaming, is lost on some people and they tend to rate any given system with 95% bias on whether it's a good gaming machine.
Take the 3rd reply in this thread for example.
This above is an excellent laptop for working on. In my own requirements I have needed all the processing power I can get for some spreadsheets I work on.
Add to that, this will play any game you want. I won't get into all the Ultra and FPS arguments, but it will play any game well and at levels better than consoles.
This isn't a pure gaming laptop. But make no mistake, it's great for gaming.
8gb of Ram will be fine. Cheaply upgraded to 16gb in 12 months if required.
Is the SSD small? Yes. But you don't have to install your games onto it. Install them onto a larger, cheap secondary HDD (which I believe this chassis has the room for) and you'll get the same performance, just at the deficit of loading times.
That said, I personally would omit the SSD altogether and source my own larger one.
Specs alone. This is a good deal.
For those that don't hold gaming with as much of a priority as others - such as myself - this is a great deal.
The only questions are over such things as heat dissipation and build quality.
All comments (55)
rivellangel
15 Feb 17#1
This is a good price. The processor is good and the 1050 is a solid budget card and probably the best you'll get in a laptop sub-£1000. Heat.
HasanG
15 Feb 17#2
Very good price for this laptop spec
The_Hoff
15 Feb 175#3
Such a strange build.
CPU - Significantly better than any other component.
GPU - Underwhelming given CPU is much more capable than it.
SSD - Too small to be useful. 60GB Fallout 4 texture pack anyone? Not that a 1050 would play it well enough.
RAM - 8GB, ok for today but in 18 months? I'd want 16.
I'd have much preferred to see a decent i5 with a 250GB SSD, a 1060 and 16GB of RAM.
Not voting.
Zeipher to The_Hoff
15 Feb 17#5
My 850m graphics card plays FallOut 4 decently at 1080p, so why should a 1050 struggle?
8gb RAM is perfectly adequate these days, and I see nothing that suggests 16gb should be the new standard in the next 18 months, but I agree about the SSD. Way too small. Should come with an HDD too or even instead.
118luke to The_Hoff
15 Feb 171#8
The closest you can get would bring this lappy upto £909, thats with an i5, 16GB RAM and 250GB ssd.
I would imagine a 1060 would come in well above £1000 if it was available. But looking at laptops with that card in are coming in around £1150
Spod to The_Hoff
15 Feb 172#25
You can use the dropdowns to downgrade to a quad core I5 and upgrade to 16GB RAM and 250GB SSD for £862 if you prefer a more balanced system.
Marekj
15 Feb 17#4
I'd drop the cpu down to an i5 in exchange for a bigger ssd, in order to make it a more balanced machine, but other than that it seems like a very decent spec for the money. If ram became an issue during the life of the machine, then you have a free bank to upgrade.
The_Hoff
15 Feb 17#6
Yeah it seems they will push 50ish FPS with the right level of compromise. I'm pretty out of touch with the lower end of the market graphically :smiley:
RAM wise, I was speaking with reference to a nicer balance of build, not necessarily that its a requirement for gaming today. 16GB has been the sweet spot for some time.
More RAM
More storage
Better GPU
2 Year parts warranty
£150~ more, but £30 Quidco and perhaps some codes floating around. So could be nearer £100 more.
Zeipher
15 Feb 17#7
Ahh, I always thought with graphics cards having decent speeds these days only 4gb ram was a good standard. This laptop seems to be torn between supporting gaming and high end image/video editing.
explosiveblarg
15 Feb 17#9
What is the build quality like on these?
haritori to explosiveblarg
15 Feb 171#14
Pretty good but I would never use them again, the screens i got had massive clouding and was suppose to be a quality 1080p screen.. if it wasnt for the subpar screen used i woudl of been happy.. they considered it fine so i had to pay a returns fee.
dannykerner1990 to explosiveblarg
15 Feb 17#19
They are not too bad just watch the hinges as they can break away from the base and are slightly hard to replace.
mikecalm to explosiveblarg
24 Feb 17#50
Hi. I have previous generation Optimus V 17.3 as well. After two years .... screen flex ribbon cable is broken, must be open in certain angle range to have picture. GPU got soldering issues, practically no gaming anymore, otherwise freezes, palm rest started loosing paint. When CPU demanding task running, gets hot and noisy. Ribbon can be replaced, but resoldering might work or not (can't risk).With big regret I will not buy this brand anymore (and any Clevo based laptop).
MBeeching
15 Feb 172#10
Quite tempting at £764 (i5 / no storage / no OS).
Could retire an SSD from my desktop or keep an eye out for a 250gb+ at a better price.
Laptops with 1060 start from £970 if looking at prices EU wide; 1050Ti is ~67% of the performance of 1060, and as the price-gap is obviously nowhere near that big, it seems that gamers would be best advised to go for the faster solution.
The new Lenovo Legion Y520 (15" with 1050Ti) is available for pre-order for the equivalent of £764 and is, according to the first few reviews, a beast of a machine.
8GB is more than enough for games. It's not shared like on consoles, although the OS obviously uses a lot more. Still, the graphics card comes with another 4GB of VRAM. 1050Ti seems to be better than my 960M, but you can get a laptop with 960M for around 200 pounds less. It's not a bad price, if the build quality is good. That's the main caveat of most laptops for me, they just break down and start chugging and overheating after a couple years of heavy usage.
stanlenin
15 Feb 17#15
£100GPU makes a £300 laptop into £900. Good business. I know the CPU in this one is expensive, but I could live with a weaker cheaper one if the price was indeed £400.
poison3k to stanlenin
15 Feb 171#17
if only it was that simple. The mobile version of gfx cards are not the same price as the desktop equivalent. In fact as a consumer its very difficult to actually buy mobile versions of gfx cards. A gaming laptop mobo that can take these gfx cards are also more expensive than the desktop version and when you factor in the extra cooling and heat dissipation these laptops require while keeping it laptop size and weight down. The production costs quickly rocket.
ianuk2005
15 Feb 171#16
I would also like to know that, I would pre-order instantly. But I'm guessing they took the US price and converted it to £ which obviously is pointless.
poison3k
15 Feb 17#18
Think its based on US prices which never convert to the GBP equivalent. Y520 with 1050ti in the US is $899...
Buy a Nintendo switch and a ps4 pro.
Sorted for gaming out and about and at home and saved hella cash :sunglasses:
longback2 to Kegga
15 Feb 17#21
this is a good option, and having had many laptops and mobile gaming devices, this is the combo I'm resorting to, with some other stuff. but a laptop has a lot more versatility
poison3k to Kegga
15 Feb 17#22
steevio_uk
15 Feb 174#23
I think the fact that some people require a decent laptop first and foremost, rather than just purely looking at gaming, is lost on some people and they tend to rate any given system with 95% bias on whether it's a good gaming machine.
Take the 3rd reply in this thread for example.
This above is an excellent laptop for working on. In my own requirements I have needed all the processing power I can get for some spreadsheets I work on.
Add to that, this will play any game you want. I won't get into all the Ultra and FPS arguments, but it will play any game well and at levels better than consoles.
This isn't a pure gaming laptop. But make no mistake, it's great for gaming.
8gb of Ram will be fine. Cheaply upgraded to 16gb in 12 months if required.
Is the SSD small? Yes. But you don't have to install your games onto it. Install them onto a larger, cheap secondary HDD (which I believe this chassis has the room for) and you'll get the same performance, just at the deficit of loading times.
That said, I personally would omit the SSD altogether and source my own larger one.
Specs alone. This is a good deal.
For those that don't hold gaming with as much of a priority as others - such as myself - this is a great deal.
The only questions are over such things as heat dissipation and build quality.
markkeenan
15 Feb 17#24
Guys, sorry for hijacking thread but I was about to buy the laptop below. There seems to be some really clued up people on here, could you give me your opinion on it please?
Not required for gaming, but will be using Autocad on it.
steevio_uk
15 Feb 17#26
What sort of things on AutoCAD? Wire workings mainly, of full 3D rendered projects?
If it's the former, then much design work is CPU based, though it never hurts getting a better GPU for the price.
This is only a U processor. You should be looking at getting better for your buck at this price point, same with the GPU.
Have a tweak around on the PC Specialist site :smiley:
markkeenan
15 Feb 17#27
Mainly 2D drawings, possibly a bit of 3D stuff but not much, will also be using Navisworks for viewing a 3D Model.
steevio_uk
15 Feb 17#28
It's not a bad laptop, but I'd be on the search for a HQ model CPU and a couple of steps above the 930m if it's not to price prohibitive.
DoctorDeals
15 Feb 17#29
Bruv, can I use this with Apple?
Arslol to DoctorDeals
15 Feb 17#31
Yes of course you can.
oddballmv
15 Feb 171#30
It's the VAT, people always forget to add it on when looking at US prices.
mikecobb
15 Feb 17#32
is a 980m faster than a 1050ti ?
The_Hoff to mikecobb
15 Feb 17#40
Yes, significantly so.
980m is 970 power which is much more adept for gaming (talking 20-25%).
Personally I think the Medion I posted with the 980m is the best of the laptops mentioned, taking quidco, newsletter discount code and anything else you can find in to account.
MSI look great too.
poison3k to mikecobb
16 Feb 17#41
Yes, its a high end mobile card versus a low end card, not that the 1050ti is bad mind you.
Ive decided to order it in the end.
Gone for
4GB Ram - Will order an extra 8GB stick from Novatech as it will be cheaper, then will have 12GB total
240GB SSD
i7-7700HQ Processor
Nvidia GTX 1050Ti Graphics
Taken it upto £864 + £45.17 Extra 8GB RAM from Novatech (So £909.17 total)
Pretty decent spec i reckon for the money!
You must be collected paving slabs because those are serious brick like laptops you have there! :confused:
Some laptop manufacturers don't seem to realise that it's 2017, not 1985!!
118luke
15 Feb 17#39
Taken my Toshiba laptop completely apart in the past. The heaviest part by far was the screen itself.
Even the outer casing was very heavy!
Slash
16 Feb 17#42
I was considering a Medion but it seems their customer service is non existence. They give 2 year warranty but there is not use for it if they don't even pick up the phone or respond to emails? Anyone actually had to get a Medion repaired through warranty? Where in UK do you have to bring it for repair?
mubashar
16 Feb 17#43
How does the HP Pavilion 17-ab200na Laptop compare for £999?
HP branded laptop
Intel® Core™ i7-7700HQ (2.8 GHz, up to 3.8 GHz with Intel® Turbo Boost Technology, 6 MB cache, 4 cores)
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1050 (4 GB GDDR5 dedicated)
16 GB RAM
1 TB 7200 rpm SATA HDD
128 GB M.2 SSD
Battery life: Up to 10 hours and 45 minutes
SuperMulti DVD burner
I bought a laptop from them a few years ago. It had a power problems pretty much as soon as the warranty ended and the build quality was terrible compared to my alienware laptop. the specs are good tho if that's all you care tho
The_Hoff
21 Feb 17#46
Code "TRAIN" will knock £15 off.
HugoLuca
23 Feb 17#47
Apart from the price - Anyone with real knowledge give advice and comparison on OP's laptop post here, and this recent laptop post:
Gaming LaptopMSI GT72S 6QE Dominator Pro G Gaming Laptop £1,049.99
This one is better value in my opinion. The 980m one is a big and bulky laptop because it has last year's top end card but barely beats the 1050ti in most games. For £1050 you should really be hunting down something with a 1060. £450 off sounds like a lot but it's just because it's very old now and would never sell at close to rrp with the 10-series out.
HugoLuca
23 Feb 17#49
Thanks for that.
kha327
13 Mar 17#51
i am thinking of ordering the one you suggested, just wondering if you know of any discount codes? thanks
The_Hoff
14 Mar 17#52
Sorry, i do not.
kha327
15 Mar 17#53
no problem, ordered anyway. thanks
Mr.No
4 Jun 17#54
Cold, why buy a laptop when you can pick up a pen, paper and calculator for next to nothing?
118luke to Mr.No
4 Jun 17#55
Pahaha did you honestly feel the need to look up an old deal I posted just to troll?? Pathetic and sad, no wonder you need a flash lease car to bolster your ego. Shall I do the same with your posts now?
Opening post
CANT GET BETTER SPECS FOR LESS MONEY THAT I CAN SEE
Should be able to play most high end games on good settings
Just specced:-
Processor (CPU) - Intel® Core™ i7 Quad Core Processor 7700HQ (2.8GHz, 3.8GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM) - 8GB Kingston SODIMM DDR4 2133MHz (1 x 8GB)
Graphics Card - NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1050 Ti - 4.0GB GDDR5
1st Hard Disk - 120GB KINGSTON UV400 2.5" SSD
Chosen without an Operating system, you can get a W10 license a lot cheaper on ebay - or add £92 if you want to buy it from them.
Top comments
CPU - Significantly better than any other component.
GPU - Underwhelming given CPU is much more capable than it.
SSD - Too small to be useful. 60GB Fallout 4 texture pack anyone? Not that a 1050 would play it well enough.
RAM - 8GB, ok for today but in 18 months? I'd want 16.
I'd have much preferred to see a decent i5 with a 250GB SSD, a 1060 and 16GB of RAM.
Not voting.
Take the 3rd reply in this thread for example.
This above is an excellent laptop for working on. In my own requirements I have needed all the processing power I can get for some spreadsheets I work on.
Add to that, this will play any game you want. I won't get into all the Ultra and FPS arguments, but it will play any game well and at levels better than consoles.
This isn't a pure gaming laptop. But make no mistake, it's great for gaming.
8gb of Ram will be fine. Cheaply upgraded to 16gb in 12 months if required.
Is the SSD small? Yes. But you don't have to install your games onto it. Install them onto a larger, cheap secondary HDD (which I believe this chassis has the room for) and you'll get the same performance, just at the deficit of loading times.
That said, I personally would omit the SSD altogether and source my own larger one.
Specs alone. This is a good deal.
For those that don't hold gaming with as much of a priority as others - such as myself - this is a great deal.
The only questions are over such things as heat dissipation and build quality.
All comments (55)
CPU - Significantly better than any other component.
GPU - Underwhelming given CPU is much more capable than it.
SSD - Too small to be useful. 60GB Fallout 4 texture pack anyone? Not that a 1050 would play it well enough.
RAM - 8GB, ok for today but in 18 months? I'd want 16.
I'd have much preferred to see a decent i5 with a 250GB SSD, a 1060 and 16GB of RAM.
Not voting.
8gb RAM is perfectly adequate these days, and I see nothing that suggests 16gb should be the new standard in the next 18 months, but I agree about the SSD. Way too small. Should come with an HDD too or even instead.
I would imagine a 1060 would come in well above £1000 if it was available. But looking at laptops with that card in are coming in around £1150
RAM wise, I was speaking with reference to a nicer balance of build, not necessarily that its a requirement for gaming today. 16GB has been the sweet spot for some time.
Something like this I think is a better buy:
http://www.medion.com/gb/shop/gaming-laptops-medion-erazer-x7843-17-3-high-performance-gaming-laptop-130020268.html
More RAM
More storage
Better GPU
2 Year parts warranty
£150~ more, but £30 Quidco and perhaps some codes floating around. So could be nearer £100 more.
Hi. I have previous generation Optimus V 17.3 as well. After two years .... screen flex ribbon cable is broken, must be open in certain angle range to have picture. GPU got soldering issues, practically no gaming anymore, otherwise freezes, palm rest started loosing paint. When CPU demanding task running, gets hot and noisy. Ribbon can be replaced, but resoldering might work or not (can't risk).With big regret I will not buy this brand anymore (and any Clevo based laptop).
Could retire an SSD from my desktop or keep an eye out for a 250gb+ at a better price.
(I should have purchased that Medion from Argos last year...).
The new Lenovo Legion Y520 (15" with 1050Ti) is available for pre-order for the equivalent of £764 and is, according to the first few reviews, a beast of a machine.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-Legion-gaming-laptops-announced-Legion-Y520-Y720.189794.0.html
Sorted for gaming out and about and at home and saved hella cash :sunglasses:
Take the 3rd reply in this thread for example.
This above is an excellent laptop for working on. In my own requirements I have needed all the processing power I can get for some spreadsheets I work on.
Add to that, this will play any game you want. I won't get into all the Ultra and FPS arguments, but it will play any game well and at levels better than consoles.
This isn't a pure gaming laptop. But make no mistake, it's great for gaming.
8gb of Ram will be fine. Cheaply upgraded to 16gb in 12 months if required.
Is the SSD small? Yes. But you don't have to install your games onto it. Install them onto a larger, cheap secondary HDD (which I believe this chassis has the room for) and you'll get the same performance, just at the deficit of loading times.
That said, I personally would omit the SSD altogether and source my own larger one.
Specs alone. This is a good deal.
For those that don't hold gaming with as much of a priority as others - such as myself - this is a great deal.
The only questions are over such things as heat dissipation and build quality.
https://www.medion.com/gb/shop/multimedia-laptops-medion-akoya-p7641-entry-level-gaming-laptop-30020877a1.html?searchTerm=30020877
Not required for gaming, but will be using Autocad on it.
If it's the former, then much design work is CPU based, though it never hurts getting a better GPU for the price.
This is only a U processor. You should be looking at getting better for your buck at this price point, same with the GPU.
Have a tweak around on the PC Specialist site :smiley:
980m is 970 power which is much more adept for gaming (talking 20-25%).
Personally I think the Medion I posted with the 980m is the best of the laptops mentioned, taking quidco, newsletter discount code and anything else you can find in to account.
MSI look great too.
http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1050-Ti-Mobile-vs-Nvidia-GTX-980M/m223242vsm15596
Gone for
4GB Ram - Will order an extra 8GB stick from Novatech as it will be cheaper, then will have 12GB total
240GB SSD
i7-7700HQ Processor
Nvidia GTX 1050Ti Graphics
Taken it upto £864 + £45.17 Extra 8GB RAM from Novatech (So £909.17 total)
Pretty decent spec i reckon for the money!
Weight 3.1kg"
That makes a garden paving slab seem portable.....
My Dell T7720 also weighs 3.28Kg
Also have a Toshiba P200-1K9 which also weighs 3.27Kg.
Other that the very quiet operation / benign fan signature, I wasn't too impressed with the previous Y50.
Other 1050/Ti lappies here: http://laptopmedia.com/highlights/list-of-all-gtx-1050-1050-ti-laptops-release-dates-specs-prices/
Some laptop manufacturers don't seem to realise that it's 2017, not 1985!!
Even the outer casing was very heavy!
HP branded laptop
Intel® Core™ i7-7700HQ (2.8 GHz, up to 3.8 GHz with Intel® Turbo Boost Technology, 6 MB cache, 4 cores)
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1050 (4 GB GDDR5 dedicated)
16 GB RAM
1 TB 7200 rpm SATA HDD
128 GB M.2 SSD
Battery life: Up to 10 hours and 45 minutes
SuperMulti DVD burner
http://store.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=Z9E10EA&opt=ABU&sel=NTB&lang=en-GB&jumpID=ps_xeuz482n9f/sf:_sku:Z9E10EA&k_clickid=EMEA%7C_kenshoo_clickid_&kpid=Z9E10EA&gclid=COLqjemRldICFUq37QodxzsJ4w&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=CO_QqemRldICFRZFGwodsNUHTw
Gaming LaptopMSI GT72S 6QE Dominator Pro G Gaming Laptop £1,049.99
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/gaming-laptopmsi-gt72s-6qe-dominator-pro-g-gaming-laptop-1049-99-incl-vat-was-1-2622699