You can still upgrade for free through this page on the Microsoft site:
Windows 10 free upgrade for customers who use assistive technologies

I did it a few weeks ago and it worked perfectly.

I've done and worked with over 2,000 Windows 10 installs, here's what I think >

Windows 10 - 10240 an absolute dog of an OS - Multiple issues far too many to go in to here. You are an idiot if you insist on installing this version.

Windows 10 - 10586 - Better but still issues with Start menu failing and the whole apps side of Windows 10 failing. Also extremely bad update around a year ago that stopped NAS boxes from being recognised on a network

Windows 10 - 14393 - Better again, but in the last month or so there was an update that messed up wireless cards on multiple computers, I saw and worked with quite a few of those, using netsh commands rectified the issue.

Windows 10 is a BETA OS, there's no doubt about it. One thing that is useful now is you don't need a Microsoft user account login to access free apps from the Windows store. The Windows store has got better but Microsoft came way too late to the party with their store and apps, it's a long road to recovery for them in that respect.

I use MacOS as my main OS and I prefer the simplicity of it just working, I also use Unix and Linux. Windows 10 is useful for DirectX 12 gaming, OK because it's the only OS that runs DX12, which is why I'm hoping Vulkan API eventually gets a much bigger market share.

So there you have it, each version of Windows 10 eventually getting better and there's two more major Redstone versions coming out this year. Microsoft eventually adopting the model Apple started in 2001 with OSX and now MacOS and Microsoft 4 or 5 years too late for app store. At least they're pretty good at cloud computing, until Amazon annihilated everyone on price.

Personally I love Windows 10 because it breaks often enough for enough people that it keeps me in a job :smiley: and I hate it because it's been just a little bit more than crap for about 2 years. At least if you know how to fix it, it's reasonable. Anyway I just sold an iMac to a customer this because Windows 10 14393 decided to corrupt his user profile this week and decided that his HDD was on the blink when it wasn't, so he was utterly fed up with the OS, keep it coming Microsoft :smiley:

If you want to install the latest Windows 10 or fairly easily upgrade to the latest version then use this page >

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10

You can upgrade there and/or use the Media Creation Tool to create a bootable USB or DVD (don't use optical media it's 2017 ffs).

You can easily check your version of Windows 10 by typing winver in to the search or press win key + r and type it in there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_10_version_history

Windows 10 14393.693 is the latest stable (lol) version, most people will want to stay with this version, the .693 indicates the monthly update revision to the OS and was started in build 10586.

basic OS and internet explorer should be free. paying for Windows home which is effectively a fairly basic OS is crazy. they really need to amend their business model on the OS. Pro and Enterprise Linda works as the OS does have many features that are essential for example remote desktoping, bitlocker, network features. but they really should offer the basics OS without cortana and other crap, a vanilla version for free and offer buyable modules so people can buy as addons. so we end with a OS that's cost effective as well as efficient and that will probably stop all the piracy.

I've never had problems with Windows 10. Maybe try reinstalling it?

Good price. Heat added.
I must say Windows 7 is much stable. After upgrading to Windows 10, it is crashed twice in last week.

​Clean installation all the time. Crashes usually during different programming software installations/ updates, never had same issue with Windows 7.

These are counterfeit keys from Hong Kong!

Do you actual get a physical licence on paper

Counterfeit keys are produced using a key generator or taken from a volume license. They should not be promoted here.

Very dodgy geezers!
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1050324&page=2
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/496243-is-this-legit/

If this is counterfeit its expensive, eBay has lots of sellers doing dodgy keys for under a fiver.

argh just want a windows 10 proper transferable license for cheap. I use the win 7 license off binned pc's for vm machines still and you can still upgrade to Windows 10 at the moment

Or just create a bootable "disc" on a USB stick (over 4GB) using another device thats running Windows 10.

No way in hell this is legal.. Even re-sellers like HP and Dell pay more than this per license... 99% sure this will be a volume license key that somebody is illegally selling copies of.
If you're using an illegal key, may as well search the internet and do it for free.

You can still upgrade for free through this page on the Microsoft site:
Windows 10 free upgrade for customers who use assistive technologies

I did it a few weeks ago and it worked perfectly.

Don't go for this, and definitely don't go for ebay keys, they are mostly development ones that run out after 9 months, by which time the seller has changed their name.

Windows 10 still available for free for those that require assisted tools

He speaketh the truth.

The only reason to pay for W10 is for a Pro license, which most don't even need.

do these keys work with windows 10 iso file download

Or just use Linux a lot cheaper.

Ducks and waits for something to be thrown :smiley:

Bet you also park in disabled and parent and baby spots even though you might be none of those :disappointed:

basic OS and internet explorer should be free. paying for Windows home which is effectively a fairly basic OS is crazy. they really need to amend their business model on the OS. Pro and Enterprise Linda works as the OS does have many features that are essential for example remote desktoping, bitlocker, network features. but they really should offer the basics OS without cortana and other crap, a vanilla version for free and offer buyable modules so people can buy as addons. so we end with a OS that's cost effective as well as efficient and that will probably stop all the piracy.

Try a clean install. My brother had a similar thing and I think it was because he upgraded from 7 to 10 and all his problems transferred. Literally EVERY PC I've installed Win 10 Pro on has worked like a charm. I'm talking 20-30 installs over 2016.

The anniversary update messed up a couple of things, but I just updated all the drivers/clean installed the affected hardware and its all good now. The version I use is Windows 10 Pro because it needs a Domain, but I cannot fault it. If you're having problems, change hardware or just check if you're doing anything wrong. I roll it out on USB, so I back that method 100%.

I got free upgrade to windows 10 last week through assistive technology website.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/accessibility/windows10upgrade

cold - illegal

Nothing wrong with that.....make them walk.....do them good.

They definitely can revoke your licence as part of updates. They can either revoke it fully or stop you getting updates.
Not uncommon, especially for VLKs - although only if someone reports and keeps track of the number of users on their VLK.

Blah blah blah - another post for pirated software on an apparently legitimate website.
Buy at your own risk - but please, just pirate it yourself, don't pay someone to do it for you.

Pretty sick of seeing obvious illegal sites selling windows software advertised on Hukd.

Shoddy way to administer a site. When closed down by the Fbi you'll look back and wonder why

Why haven't the Mods banned this? Poor form.

There is so much piracy going on, I honestly don't think can monitor it. I know SO MANY people that have used these, some have even used pirated versions of 7, and upgraded to legitimate versions of 10.

I don't have to worry about it, even if deactivation is possible. I've never pirated Windows myself because I can get legit keys through work. I've never heard of a single case of this though, I even tried Googling it just now. Call it scandalous, criminal, cheap or whatever, but one thing I wouldn't be worried about is it deactivating after its been redeemed. Personally.

I have yet to shake the hand of a truly completely honest person.........and no don't kid yourself......your not :wink:

20 pints for £9.59 - you really need to post that as a deal.... think of the heat :smirk:

Windows 7 > Windows 10

If you are going to use pirated windows, I don't understand why you'd pay for it.

hi guys, I want to make windows 10 back on USB drive, I got a message I need 16GB but someone mentioned We actually need 32 GB USB drive, someone can confirm

Save your money, they're £3 on eBay.

I've done and worked with over 2,000 Windows 10 installs, here's what I think >

Windows 10 - 10240 an absolute dog of an OS - Multiple issues far too many to go in to here. You are an idiot if you insist on installing this version.

Windows 10 - 10586 - Better but still issues with Start menu failing and the whole apps side of Windows 10 failing. Also extremely bad update around a year ago that stopped NAS boxes from being recognised on a network

Windows 10 - 14393 - Better again, but in the last month or so there was an update that messed up wireless cards on multiple computers, I saw and worked with quite a few of those, using netsh commands rectified the issue.

Windows 10 is a BETA OS, there's no doubt about it. One thing that is useful now is you don't need a Microsoft user account login to access free apps from the Windows store. The Windows store has got better but Microsoft came way too late to the party with their store and apps, it's a long road to recovery for them in that respect.

I use MacOS as my main OS and I prefer the simplicity of it just working, I also use Unix and Linux. Windows 10 is useful for DirectX 12 gaming, OK because it's the only OS that runs DX12, which is why I'm hoping Vulkan API eventually gets a much bigger market share.

So there you have it, each version of Windows 10 eventually getting better and there's two more major Redstone versions coming out this year. Microsoft eventually adopting the model Apple started in 2001 with OSX and now MacOS and Microsoft 4 or 5 years too late for app store. At least they're pretty good at cloud computing, until Amazon annihilated everyone on price.

Personally I love Windows 10 because it breaks often enough for enough people that it keeps me in a job :smiley: and I hate it because it's been just a little bit more than crap for about 2 years. At least if you know how to fix it, it's reasonable. Anyway I just sold an iMac to a customer this because Windows 10 14393 decided to corrupt his user profile this week and decided that his HDD was on the blink when it wasn't, so he was utterly fed up with the OS, keep it coming Microsoft :smiley:

If you want to install the latest Windows 10 or fairly easily upgrade to the latest version then use this page >

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10

You can upgrade there and/or use the Media Creation Tool to create a bootable USB or DVD (don't use optical media it's 2017 ffs).

You can easily check your version of Windows 10 by typing winver in to the search or press win key + r and type it in there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_10_version_history

Windows 10 14393.693 is the latest stable (lol) version, most people will want to stay with this version, the .693 indicates the monthly update revision to the OS and was started in build 10586.

what is assistive technologies? I am guessing to help with disability?

got for 3.70 on ebay colddd brrrr

This is old news, Windows 10 will upgrade any Windows 7 COA that is legit for free, yes even after the summer cut off date. You absolutely do not need to use the assistive technologies link. How do I know because the warehouse I work for upgrade over 200 laptops a week. Windows 8 machines have the COA embedded in the MSDM table in the BIOS, so they should upgrade without using a licence or rather typing one in. Not all Windows 8 machines have a key in the MSDM table, you can check using software called RW Everything if you really want to.

Incorrect - Windows 10 offers connection to domain functionality, it does not need a domain, as you state, this would not make sense, it offers the facility to connect to a domain, there is absolutely no domain requirement to use Windows 10. Maybe this is what you meant. So you only really need Windows 10 Pro if you want to connect to a network that uses domains or the encryption features, which are better offered by third party software. Other reasons for Windows 10 Pro are listed in the link below.

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/feature/windows/windows-10-home-vs-windows-10-pro-uk-difference-3618710/

If you have a network that connects to domain then you wish to control user logins and data via a central domain server, this is out of the remit of most home users, unless they're practising possibly using VM's (I hope so, who needs all that hardware in their house!).

Take Linux and then b'stardise it by trying to make it look like Windows! The whole point of Linux is not to do this, Linux is really about control, you wouldn't take a rake and try and make it in to a spade would you, if you would then you need Zorin obviously.

This is not a de facto rule, in fact some consumers have to upgrade to a new OS this way, the reasons for this are multiple but usually stem from complex configuration issues, although they should be aware of the reasons and compatibility issues of doing so.

You want legit copy with COA, Windows10 Pro OEM £50 fulfilled by Amazon. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B010S3VVJW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

And that's all I got to say about that.

I've never really had an issue with any Windows OS since 7. But as many have said, Windows never really feels finished, there was always a 3rd party app needed to do a small task.

That being said 10 does everything I require and it's never crashed on me on a 6 year old Dell XPS machine.

The PC's I setup need adding to a Domain therefore I need Windows 10 Pro. I've no idea what you thought I mean't, but thanks for the paragraph explaining what a Domain is. :wink:

More to the point though, in my experience Windows 10 Pro is a damn good operating system. You said "I don't know why anybody would install it", but I don't know why people wouldn't choose Windows 10 for a multitude of instances, considering it's competition. I mean, sure, for older PC's I would use a lightweight Linux variant (being a Cisco engineer, Linux is bae). For a gaming PC I would choose Windows 10 hands down, because of it's compatibility with Steam games. I'm not a fan of 8, but both 7 and 10 have been equally stable recently, and fit for purpose. I wouldn't use any other OS. My own personal gaming build/OS is solid as a rock, and that is Windows 10 Home. Again, I would never change it.

You have to remember that main-stream applications such as Photoshop, Adobe, Internet Explorer (eww) have little or no compatibility with Linux. These are all common applications people use, which could be some of the reasons your business has made the executive decision to install it over 2000 times.

There is no right answer though. Your OS isn't "one size fits all", it's down to hardware, purpose, and what the end user prefers.

Windows 10 has truely f**ked me off, recent updates totally screwed up all USB drivers on my desktop.
Google "lemobile android device" to see what I had been up against.

Another vote for the assistive technology upgrade route. I do ocasionally use a screen reader for reading large reports as tend to get eye strain.

Windows 7 upgraded to windows 10 pro.

After upgrade it seemed to use a fair bit of storage, 60 GB and left a reserved partition I could not delete.
Wiped and clean installed. Much better.

Why has this expired? The deal isn't over.

Hi thanks for all the infomation it really helps me, I just used creation tool and it setup all files to my 4GB flash drive, so do I still need higher ? because I when I checked Dell tool its asking me minimum of 16GB, one more question looks like it is not a system image like I have create previously for windows 7 which is the exact image of windows includign all drivers and even software install that time

thanks

Might as well pirate it. It's cheaper, same amount if money goes to MSoft and no money goes to a dodgy source.

I wasn't able to do a clean install on the SSD as it wouldn't work. I forget what the issue mesage was. May have been that I couldn't format the drive either. I think the drive had pretty much had it as it I couldn't run sfc /scannow or do other testing to it. I obtained a download direct from Microsoft for Windows 10 Pro clean install and put it on a USB drive. I had upgraded to Windows 10 Pro previously so was doing everything legit and correctly. Luckily I had a spare unused SSD. Only issue was the old SSD was 128GB and the spare new one is 120GB. So had to use some partition software to play around and resize partitions.

Now things seem fine with the new SSD. Quick boot and shutdown. No need for a clean install at the moment..

I only ask,as i am thinking of buying a refurb laptop. I am guessing this might come with windows 8, which is **** in my opinion. .So I was hoping to upgrade.
I have done so on my windows 7 desktop, on a new partition.I was hoping to role back, but for some reason it wouldnt, So i didnt get the dual boot option of windows 7/10 available. Like the guides had suggested, was possible. But now thats dead, i got the laptop on 10 (also a upgrade)

​​​You disgrace!!

Your argument is flawed, you are barely worth acknowledging.

You moron

Nobody wants windows 10

Clearly a Microsoft employee

Apart from all the people in the thread you mean?

I don't argue with bottom feeders, sorry.

Do you understand the terms your even using? Everything I said was fact, it's very simple, bottom feeder.

Do elaborate on why my argument was flawed, I won't hold my breath.

We're talking about different things. The Media Creation Tool only creates a bootable USB of the latest version of Windows 10, it doesn't offer all drivers for all machines. What you're thinking of is the Recovery Media Creator which makes an image of your system with the current drivers. I never use the Recovery Media Creator. I prefer the following:

1. Media Creation Tool to install latest version of Windows 10
2. Snappy Driver. Snappy driver is available in offline (SDI-Lite) and online version (SDI Full), online is very small and you use download an index of your current setup and it will tell you which driver packs you require. The online version is very large 10GB+ but has drivers for just about anything. https://sdi-tool.org/
3. Windows update to update the system, bearing in mind that if you have the latest version of Windows 10 then you'll only need one cumulative update to update it. As I said before Windows 10 is the only Microsoft OS to update this way and Windows 10 is entirely in line with how Apple updates its MacOS system. Apple have been using this model since 2001 when OSX (now rebranded MacOS) first came out.

The disadvantage of the lite version is that there's no drivers, until you download the index and then download the driver packs. However on many modern systems, you'll have at least your Ethernet working, so you can use the lite version, if you don't have any connection to the Internet, then you will have to get the network working first to use Snappy Driver Lite.

You said "The version I use is Windows 10 Pro because it needs Domain" which is gibberish. Therefore my reply and my disclaimer that what you just stated is what you meant. Pendantic maybe, but I expanded on the differences between Windows 10 Home and Pro for people that don't know the differences. No harm done I feel :smiley:

No harm done at all. I've even added the word "a" in front of Domain for anyone else that struggled to understand. :smiley:

Thanks for clarifying this confusion, actually I always Used to make system image after installing Microsoft office Adobe and few important things, it definitely take 3 hours to install but you don't need to sit in front just run it and leave it until done, but now I am not doing as I have to buy USB separately and also its not clean install, What I did is create USB disk as you said, and I download manually all the drivers (took 10 minutes) through Dell system detect and copy it to my external drive.......so I don't have to search again while reinstalling..............but thanks again really helpful information.........and save lot of time

We do so many fresh installs where I work, we need the quickest system. Windows 10 installs very quickly and it's very easy to install drivers using Snappy Driver. Of course a system image is very useful for some people. We don't use system images, as they tend to cause more pain than good for our purposes.

I would like to refer you and everyone else to https://ninite.com/

You select what you want and create a small download, the download when executed will automatically install all the software you've ticked off. You might be tempted to tick everything, I would only select what you really need. Sadly Adobe took their programs off Ninite because they prefer to advertise and install 3rd party products in their installers. Fortunately any Ninite created before any apps have been removed still work.

Lastly I can recommend this app, which automatically deselects any 3rd party installs when installing software. Great for people who don't read every page when installing software and accidentally install end up installing crapware.

https://unchecky.com/

Hi fishmaster, Thanks for the useful links. Have you ever had issues with those software installing incorrect drivers or behaving in ways to cause other issues?

I've been using Drive Booster Pro which I got free via giveawayoftheday. Sometimes it seems to list updates for hardware which I think may be wrong. For example the Creative Z software states there isn't an update but Drive Booster says there is for the soundcard. Makes me a little unsure! I do let Drive Booster create a restore point before doing any changes.

Driver Booster is a hopeless program, iobit make it and Advanced System Care that they produce is actually quite useful. Driver Booster however is a total mess of a program. Never use it, it can cause a lot of pain! I've had to fix systems where Driver Booster has been used, I definitely don't recommend it.

My experience in using Snappy Driver came from using Driver Pack Solution, Snappy Driver was created by people who used to be involved with Driver Pack Solution. Driver Pack Solution can be useful, but it will definitely install a lot of crap if you don't configure it correctly. Snappy Driver will only install the drivers you select. I usually don't update keyboard or trackpad drivers unless really necessary. If you break your keyboard using a broken driver it can be painful to get it working again which means editing the registry. Snappy Driver is generally a very useful program. Some of the team I work with will use Slim Drivers, however I use Snappy Driver and Driver Pack Solution, and mostly Snappy Driver. I don't advise using Driver Pack Solution unless you know what you're doing, as you'll end up with loads of software you didn't really need and their crappy Driver Pack Solution updater app.

Thanks. :smiley:

​actually you are wrong. hardware support is largely done by manufacturers. there are fairly generic standard which certain hardware has to be conformed to. there are international standard for that reason thus making DLL for OS isn't as hard as you might think. secondly there are free OS already out there, Linux, unix, mobile systems there are even more. of course programmers should be paid and Microsoft should be paid, but for a basic set of interface and basic driver support, that Linux can offer as well is just a bit rich especially considering how much a retail license actually cost for home edition. as I argued, the pro and enterprise edition are worth it. and they can make money by giving options to buy addons. I would have paid for bitlocker, dynamic provisioning, and all the networking features even if it is on some kind of subscription basis. by doing this they can focus more on development of critical part of the OS and making it better instead of aggregated putting out updates for all features which 95% (hyperbole don't quote me on this figure) isn't utilised. this will also obviously increase the security of the OS, less stuff less chances of exploits.

BTW windows 10 didn't support a lot of my hardware when it rolled out. they were all fairly big standard stuff. Intel z97 chipset, nvidia quadro card with a SSD and Corsair H100i cooler. my qaudro driver had to use a custom bootloaded windows 8 driver, my wireless card driver had to be implemented via registry to get it working but not working properly. whilst Intel chipset were supported, Intel rapid storage were broken meant my raid wasn't working. so I had all these problems at the beginning of w10 and for an OS that charges £100+ that's frankly rubbish. and all of the support didn't come from Microsoft. they were all subsequently downloaded from hardware manufacturer and implemented by me not MS updates

Moron

You are irrelevant