The main reason for HDD price increases is due to consolidation of manufactures. WD bought Hitachi, Seagate purchased Samsung. Less competition == higher prices. :disappointed:
Mada06 to Yesgo
1 Jan 174#5
The 3TB Western Digital hard drive, an essential for any poor person. Behave!
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Spark
7 Jan 17#28
So is this actually a blue or a green drive?
I bought a Toshiba 3TB drive just over 3 years ago and I think it is starting to fail but it is the drive with my Steam Library on it so a green drive is unlikely to cut it performance wise.
It feels like a couple of years ago - because it literally was. 2011 Thailand floods
Don't know where he got 2004 from.....
Knottyboy
4 Jan 17#25
2004? It feels like it was a couple of years ago... man I feel old.
Oneday77
2 Jan 172#23
What a load of old cobblers on here.
Black - performance drive with long warranty. Noises but on of the quickest for a mechanical.
Blue - not as fast as a Blue with a shorter warranty. Though quieter and more consumer focused.
Green - intended for archive style
Storage where performance isn't much of a requirement. Though low power requirement is ideal.
Red - designed for 24-7 running with greater performance and reliability compared to green.
All drives will work in a PC but some are better than others. Video and Photo editing will be better on a blue or black drive. Though SSD would obviously be better still.
mrew42 to Oneday77
3 Jan 17#24
Wow
You certainly managed to un'cobble' this thread. :man:
frogbog
2 Jan 17#22
Well it still isn't the answer I was looking for, because I wanted to know if this 5400rpm hdd is faster than an external hdd on a usb 3.0...specifically this one:-
I think people are missing the point in drives of this size. Yes they are getting towards a good price point but I'm sure the majority don't intend to backup all of the information stored on these drives in case of failure
10TB drives could be £100 but people will only buy one as they hunk drive failure will never happen to them.
From my own experience drive failure is just pot (bad) luck.
My current server build holds 24 drives (1x8tb and 23x 4TB) and so far I've been lucky to (in the last 3 years) have no failures.
However, just being lucky isn't good enough, in order to have full or even partial redundancy, a secondary copy of all important data is required.
In my case I'm lucky to have the exact same build at a second property that I own and that devices has regular updates via a portable USB3 drive (even super fast broadband would just be too slow for the purpose of continual backup) whenever I'm at that property.
I know that eventually I will have a failure but luckily I should be a week out of sync at the most and easily back up and running fairly quickly.
Never underestimate drive failure and never have a single 4/5/6/8TB drive as internal PC storage as one day when you try to boot your machine to find a dead drive, you'll be very annoyed you didn't go with a Full backup
frogbog
2 Jan 17#19
Guys, can someone pls help answer my previous question? Is this 5400rpm hdd enough for HD video editing? Also how does this drive compare in speed with the:-
You keep banging on about 5400rpm and HD video editing... it would take like 10 minutes to google this information.
So you know 5400rpm is plenty for hd vid editing, google told me just now
Dawsy
2 Jan 17#18
Simples... All we need it to start a new UK HDD Brand with manufacturing plant... Anyone want to go on this years apprentice with the business plan...
Yesgo
1 Jan 172#4
Dumb ass Brexit. The poor just gets poorer...
Mada06 to Yesgo
1 Jan 174#5
The 3TB Western Digital hard drive, an essential for any poor person. Behave!
haritori to Yesgo
2 Jan 171#17
What you on about? prices went up when most manufacturers facilities were destroyed in the Tsunami in 2004 and they never recovered..
oh and look the price was the same, before and after the Referendum.. but now is the cheapest its ever been...
tan159
2 Jan 17#16
LoL. I've been on the lockout to upgrade my nas drives for over a year but just thought I kept missing out on the deals.
ukez
2 Jan 17#15
They were cheaper than this 5+ years ago. I picked up 2TB Samsung drives back then for £45 each,.
The market has since been monopolised, companies have all been bought out and prices fixed.
That whole brexit thing is yet another justification to add a price rise in the market, just like the flood and fire did with the RAM and HDD market and never ever recovered.
The main reason for HDD price increases is due to consolidation of manufactures. WD bought Hitachi, Seagate purchased Samsung. Less competition == higher prices. :disappointed:
jouster
1 Jan 17#9
Why do people think they need a black instead of a blue.
What exactly are these being used for?
CraigT to jouster
1 Jan 17#13
I bought a black for the 5 year warranty and supposed best performance (for a HDD). My only comments are that it is still working and that it is noisy.
Blues okay for regular use, green for low power usage, red for nas use.
If I were starting from scratch I'd go for a 500Gb ssd, with a WD blue for my data files, backed up regularly to a WD black.
Useful link: Reddit conversation about the WD colours
I wasn't able to find a good comparison on the WD site!
frogbog
1 Jan 17#12
So does having 5400rpm mean a usb 3.0 hdd would be faster?
sunama
1 Jan 17#6
Reading through the comments, it would appear that the 3TB drive is actually a WD Green. So it will run at around 5400RPM (not 7200RPM).
slayermatt to sunama
1 Jan 17#11
The listing does state it is a 5400rpm drive however :stuck_out_tongue:
frogbog
1 Jan 171#10
would 5400rpm hard drive be okay for video editing HD movies?
SCOUSEKEVIN
1 Jan 17#8
Buy from a Known supplier, or one supplied by Amazon. You would be amazed by how many second/hand/user hard drives are sold on Amazon as NEW and the prices are about the same as for a genuine New one LOL, though if you have been stung it's not so funny.
friar_chris
1 Jan 171#7
Member when a Samsung 2TB Spinpoint drive was £55? We've come a long way in the last 6 years.
ukez
1 Jan 178#1
HDD prices suck!
rnem170 to ukez
1 Jan 172#3
Were cheaper before brexit. Everything imported has gone up.
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The main reason for HDD price increases is due to consolidation of manufactures. WD bought Hitachi, Seagate purchased Samsung. Less competition == higher prices. :disappointed:
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I bought a Toshiba 3TB drive just over 3 years ago and I think it is starting to fail but it is the drive with my Steam Library on it so a green drive is unlikely to cut it performance wise.
Don't know where he got 2004 from.....
Black - performance drive with long warranty. Noises but on of the quickest for a mechanical.
Blue - not as fast as a Blue with a shorter warranty. Though quieter and more consumer focused.
Green - intended for archive style
Storage where performance isn't much of a requirement. Though low power requirement is ideal.
Red - designed for 24-7 running with greater performance and reliability compared to green.
All drives will work in a PC but some are better than others. Video and Photo editing will be better on a blue or black drive. Though SSD would obviously be better still.
You certainly managed to un'cobble' this thread.
:man:
https://www.cclonline.com/product/112782/HX-D301TDB/G/External-Storage/Samsung-D3-Station-STSHX-D301TDB-3TB-Hard-Drive-USB-3-0-Black-External-/BAK3722/?siteID=TnL5HPStwNw-7J4b0iYKdbY0iefqXzz.CA
10TB drives could be £100 but people will only buy one as they hunk drive failure will never happen to them.
From my own experience drive failure is just pot (bad) luck.
My current server build holds 24 drives (1x8tb and 23x 4TB) and so far I've been lucky to (in the last 3 years) have no failures.
However, just being lucky isn't good enough, in order to have full or even partial redundancy, a secondary copy of all important data is required.
In my case I'm lucky to have the exact same build at a second property that I own and that devices has regular updates via a portable USB3 drive (even super fast broadband would just be too slow for the purpose of continual backup) whenever I'm at that property.
I know that eventually I will have a failure but luckily I should be a week out of sync at the most and easily back up and running fairly quickly.
Never underestimate drive failure and never have a single 4/5/6/8TB drive as internal PC storage as one day when you try to boot your machine to find a dead drive, you'll be very annoyed you didn't go with a Full backup
https://www.cclonline.com/product/112782/HX-D301TDB/G/External-Storage/Samsung-D3-Station-STSHX-D301TDB-3TB-Hard-Drive-USB-3-0-Black-External-/BAK3722/?siteID=TnL5HPStwNw-7J4b0iYKdbY0iefqXzz.CA
So you know 5400rpm is plenty for hd vid editing, google told me just now
What you on about? prices went up when most manufacturers facilities were destroyed in the Tsunami in 2004 and they never recovered..
oh and look the price was the same, before and after the Referendum.. but now is the cheapest its ever been...
The market has since been monopolised, companies have all been bought out and prices fixed.
That whole brexit thing is yet another justification to add a price rise in the market, just like the flood and fire did with the RAM and HDD market and never ever recovered.
The main reason for HDD price increases is due to consolidation of manufactures. WD bought Hitachi, Seagate purchased Samsung. Less competition == higher prices. :disappointed:
What exactly are these being used for?
Blues okay for regular use, green for low power usage, red for nas use.
If I were starting from scratch I'd go for a 500Gb ssd, with a WD blue for my data files, backed up regularly to a WD black.
Useful link:
Reddit conversation about the WD colours
I wasn't able to find a good comparison on the WD site!