Oh that’s a shame - were they apologetic about the mix up? I seem to have driven more miles than expected so far! Probably should have gone for 10k miles!

Yep, all good, haven't driven it as much as I would have liked but all good even though they didn't provide the correct colour interior :disappointed:

@alu355 @scarypowder you both enjoying it?

Still no news on mine :disappointed:

few more days only to go here!

Got mine last week. It's great!

No news on mine, will give them a call on Monday

That's good to hear! Mine is getting delivered Monday 12th. There was the potential for it to come next week if I wanted it driven down.

My car arrived today! Well worth the wait! Have you got yours yet?

I called up Mill and asked for an update, they checked their systems

Hi. How do you know it's here?

Mine arrived in the UK today, looks like it'll take about 10 days to get to me, via Newcastle

Yes, I sent them a tweet and got the following reply:

'Hi, the My Volvo site is being updated & Order Tracking has been removed. Please speak to your local Volvo dealer for updates'

Checked with Mill and they confirmed my order will be with them early June.

A search on a Volvo forum showed that its an update to the site and it looks like they've pulled the plug on order tracking. Oh well!

Yes, same for me. I might try to contact them

I cant see my order under MyVolvo anymore! It looks like they may have updated the site for just owners (requires VIN). Anyone else having the same?

SE T5 NAV with 6000 miles PA at £190 per month

I tried a moan too as my original delivery date was in March too. But alas it didn't work - I just kept being told it was an amazing deal. I couldn't argue anymore. What spec did you go for?

OK just re-read my agreement and can see that anything over £185 road tax we'll need to pay :disappointed:

Although will have a moan as they originally quoted 22nd March as the delivery date

Yes, mine is the same. Ordered but not in production - I think their system is quite glitchy. Registering for MyVolvo also gives you access to some deals - I just ordered the sunshades for my new XC60. Really excited about it arriving!

I ​got my order number from Mill just now. They say it's due in the UK on 22nd May... then a 5 day lead

I just registered the order in myvolvo but shows as just ordered... no production or build info... meh!

Hi. I had to get a order number from MILL - you then register and add the vehicle on MyVolvo. The number isn't your reference number it's one you have to request from MILL. If you check your signed lease it will say that tax is included but only for the original rate (before 1st April) any increases would need to be paid by the customer. It increased mine by about £10 per month. Plus a bit extra on the deposit. It made me cross but I didn't have any choice. I guess it's still a pretty good deal.

How did you link a MyVolvo account to the order? Is it based on the order reference number?

I can't see how they can charge you for road tax when the lease agreement includes this.

FYI

"...We also need to inform you that Government regulations regarding Vehicle Excess Duty changes from 1st April 2017, meaning all vehicles across all manufacturers registered after this date will be subject to new Vehicle Excise Duty."

Was what I was told in an email!

​It's Beth.

Thanks for the responses!

I'm told my car will be delivered around the 6th of June. The MyVolvo tracking seems to fluctuate quite a lot. Afraid my deal was revised when the tax charges changed. Interested to know who you're dealing with at MILL?

12th June for me, at the moment no one has said anything about paying extra tax, in fact my lease agreement which I signed says it's included so not sure how they can hike it

Any news on delivery for those that ordered? If so, have any of you got away with the tax piggyback price hike? Thanks!

I ordered on 30th Jan also and at the moment am being told 5th-8th June.
On the plus side no mention of any price increase yet

Have ended up buying a temporary car to fill the gap

You did well, I ordered 30th Jan but had my order bumped until June so need to find something else as the timing causes issues.

I just picked mine up from Mill today, ordered 1st February. It was taxed on 31st March. I added family pack, leather and tinted glass. It looks like they added the winter pack and rear view camera for free :-)

I just picked mine up from Mill today, ordered 1st February. It was taxed on 31st March. I added family pack, leather and tinted glass. It looks like they added the winter pack and rear view camera for free :-)

I guess the ones that did would have bought before the deal came on here

Did anyone actually have a car delivered in March?

In my case they haven't said anything a change in price, not sure they can seeing as we have signed a contract

What did you get them to agree on for the excess mileage charge in the end?

Mine is apparently the week of the 5th June now.

8k a year, got them to drop excess mileage also.

Anyone had any news on delivery times?

Bunch of cowboys, have also been told June now and have already got a buyer for our old car

They've revised my quote by a lot more - interested to know your mileage for comparison.

I had the following reply when escalating the issue to Customer Services manager:

Thank you for your email.

I am very sorry however I must confirm the information provided by Mill Garages is correct. We will of course honour our quote in terms of the price of the vehicle however any VED changes are out of our control. We must therefore reflect the higher rate for cars due from 1st April 2017. Likewise if the government had reduced the VED price, we would have ensured the saving was passed back to the customer and I feel our customers would rightly have expected that.

I’m afraid this VED change is out of our control and isn’t something we can waiver, it must be paid to the government.

I regret Mr Sparrow that there is nothing further we can do to assist. If you want to proceed, the higher rate of VED will apply.

Just been told that my delivery date is 6.6.17 - a 20 weeks wait from when I ordered. Oh, and also I'll have to pay more now as the new VED charges will apply. So angry with Volvo and Mill.

Thought this may have happened. If you can afford the extra few hundred pounds then fine, but I'd threaten to cancel the order. If enough people do this then the dealership/Volvo finance will absorb the cost.

I've just recieved a double-blow of bad news! Delivery date is now 5th June and becuase of the VED changes coming into play 1st April, they've revised the quotation, some exta £10pm and the inital up another £70 or so!

They said that the January promotion generated orders in excess of 5000+.

This was with Mill Volvo.

All very annoying as I was getting ready to sell the wifes current car!

Nothing yet. I keep chasing but get one word answers from Mill, if I'm lucky! I was told that dates would be confirmed by end of trade on Monday - no response yet.

I would guess no as most delivery dates seem to be March 31st at the earliest. In fact, I got a call last week from Mill Volvo informing me that my delivery date is likely to be early April.

Has anyone taken delivery of theirs?

I've not had confirmation of a build date as yet.

I concur the correspondence from them is very very slow. You literally have to call them a few days after emailing them.

correspondence from Mill Volvo is horrendous

The delivery date for mine was with the contract paperwork that was sent over for me to sign.

Drop an email to your contact at Mill Volvo, they should be able to confirm.

My signed contract was returned to Mill Volvo on Friday 27th Jan. On Friday 3rd Feb, I recieved the counter signed copy of the contractin in the post but wasnt give any other information. I wasnt sure if those who had confirmation of a delivery date had chase Volvo for this or if they recieved confirmation in the post etc.

First, inital payment shouldn't come out (as a direct debit) until delivery from what I understand.

The deal was being done by Mill Volvo Sunderland so had to liaise with them. Spoke to them a few times. No payments made as yet but contracts and credit checks are all done.

Those with build dates, did you have to call Volvo for that?

Got mine too! Delivery date 31st March. Thanks OP

Thanks to the OP, I finally managed to sign my paperwork today after much back and forth.

There has to be a threshold, I can't see how they'd police a system where discounts were involved. You can argue the design of the system is flawed, and of course I can see your point.

Indeed it has, though the ones affected by the £500+ tax are the ones we were discussing.

autoexpress.co.uk/car…tax

carwow.co.uk/new…060

It's increased cost for most car owners that buy new cars. I believe existing cars registered before the 1st April 2017 won't be subject to the new rates. Also if you lease a car you can work it so that the tax you pay is less, check the tables out.

You won't have to wait long I have had a car on order since 1st of October

Thanks, yes will let you know when I get it

road tax will be included

Cool, I hope you enjoy the car as much as I do. At the price you paid a bargain.:D

Let us know what you think of it?

is road tax included? it dont say on my quote. what is the price for the maintenance?

gonna ring them tomorrow so hopefully still available

Delivery just confirmed for 17th March, thanks OP

Then its a moot point you were trying to make - it would be as relevant saying a Ford Mondeo has the same wheelbase as a van (which it does) - completely irrelevant.



Hows driving a Volvo being a badge snob??

It was my local Kia garage. I shopped online then got them to match it. Got the new auto box in the 1.7. Wessex Kia I found the best price out there to beat.

Same here with the beige leather. Looks brilliant and the leather hasn't 'dirtied' in the year that I've had it so far. Seats are extremely comfortable - and I have a bad back! This car is a steal at the price, in my opinion.

What do you mean 'you said; ? It's 2.7m isn't it yes or no? (along with the Range Rover) My point was that people moaning about £500 VED, which wasn't bad given its almost got the same wheelbase as a 9 seater mini bus, yet I never see more than 3 people in these. Usually a Mum and the token child. Obscene.
Chip on my shoulder? I stopped caring about English roads years ago. Worst in Europe and horrendous congestion thanks to the ghetto housing culture.

In fact I believe it's the ghetto housing culture (known as housing estates) cheap tacky samey looking houses, that fuels Britain's strong desire for luxury cars and its unique badge snobbery.

I wonder what happens if, say you bought a Range Rover Evoque that had a base price of £39,000 - then added extras (metallic paint, sunroof, bigger wheels etc) and push it over the £40k mark. Do they go on base price or final selling price?

Completely different engine mate. I used to have a Volvo S80 T5 (I got 25mpg); like your S40, it had a 5-cylinder turbo 2.5l.

This is a 4-cylinder 2l, and is obviously far more economical.

Yeah thats what its been... :rolleyes:

‌ :wink:

let's not forget that the plethora of diesel cars on the road was entirely down to Gordon Brown (the lummox) deciding to link road tax to CO2 output (rather than something sensible like miles covered) which meant loads of people bought diesel cars (more MPG and less road tax) as they have lower CO2. Massive amount more NO2 though. Bad science, bad policy from a truly bad politician. We'll not talk about gold, WMD or Iraq.

Then you read it wrong - it reads "T5 PowerShift 33.2–42.2 mpg 23.1 mpg"

honestjohn.co.uk/rea…008

I'd like to see a peer-review on this. Like I have for the diesel particulate papers.

Absolute BULL. Why do you spread complete NONSENSE?

First things first

(a) this car is not on honestjohn, the T5 that is on there is the T5 r-design which this car is NOT, that engine was introduced in 2011 autoexpress.co.uk/vol…ign and rated at 198g co2, 33.2mpg
(b) the t5 that appears on honest john is NOT 17.5mpg, it is 23.1mpg honestjohn.co.uk/rea…08/
(c) the t5 on honest john used the 1990+ Volvo Modular Engine en.wikipedia.org/wik…ine
(d) this is NOT the Volvo Modular Engine, it is Volvo Engine Architecture first developed in 2013, and this variant was first sold in 2014/2015 en.wikipedia.org/wik…ure
(e) whereas the honest john car is 198g co2 33.2mpg, this is rated at 157 and 42.2mpg, so that's 20% less to start with.
(f) there is no way unless you drive like an utter c**t this car will do less than 25mpg, and I'd predict more like 30mpg

That's bizarre - I swear it said 17.5mpg last night, now says 23.1mpg - wish I had taken a screen shot.

I think a lot of angry 'science teachers' from here must have added submissions to lift/change the average, seriously.

Shocking mpg for a modern moterway car.

I have just leased a sportage new auto in 2 spec. 720 and 23 payments of £240. Getting 40mpg out of first three tanks(will only increase). On the 12000 I do this Volvo would cost a extra £120pcm in fule alone!!

Ouch, the tank on these is big but you'll be filling this up regularly at 17.5 MPG!!. Costs me £80 to fill up my R-Design Diesel. Goes 650 miles per tank at 47 MPG. At 17.5 MPG, a tank of petrol will go roughly 225 - 275 miles oO. Running costs would be prohibitive on this deal.

I'd recommend the car itself thoroughly, nice to drive, safe, comfortable, spacious, no major reliability issues. Get it in black looks much better!

There has to be a cut off point somewhere, most people spending £40,000+ on a car are doing so for 'luxury' reasons.

EC Urban 58mpg
EC Extra Urban 67mpg
EC Combined 62.8mpg

But real world per HonestJohn is c.41MPG. More than double the petrol version.

also, on a used car i'd own i would not bother re-painting bumpers some lovely people keep scraping. with a lease arrangement however i presumably would be *heavily* punished financially after those 2 or 3 years for every single little scratch or dent as a result of other people's wonderful parking skills?

I did mention the source - Honest John's Real MPG site, where actual owners/drivers submit actual results.

This car will drop to £140 - only cars with a list price of £40,000+ suffer the extra tax, last I heard anyway.

So well done, you made it into top comments without an ounce of accurate info - good old HUKD :smile:

20mpg oh my god!

would the insurance premiums be a lot higher considering you are insuring a more expensive new car? as opposed to owning a used car.

Avoid a GLC unless you like crabbing...

I got one

You're a lucky one never getting any break down, do you buy lottery tickets too? :-)

The problem is that the anti-lease peoples that come up with these "cheap motoring alternative" put no value on luxury, comfort (I guess the value of these are arguable) nor reliability (again if you don't need a working car, then maybe it is not very valuable) and always use a £0 maintenance and repair cost. E.g £2500 for a S40 T5, one would be looking at ~10 years old and 80-100K miles on the clock if not more. Keep it for 2 years and do the equivalent mileage of this deal ~15K miles = never ever any major repair bill nor even any basic service bills, no broken gear box, clutch, suspension, exhaust falling on the road, blown turbo, etc.

But yes, I agree, it is possible to get cheaper motoring with second hand car even including repair bills and depreciation.

There you go - fair wear and tear guidance...

issuu.com/bfw…511

8000 mpa @ 20mpg = 400gal/pa not 800.
800 gal/pa =10mpg

If you treat it like you were suggesting you treat a second hand car and hand the lease car back scuffed, scratched and dinged, then you will be hit by big charges.

If you look after it as you go along - then theres no big bills and no surprises at the end of the term.

There is a standard to which they must adhere when relating to damage they can charge for - ie, they cant charge for the odd stonechip, but if the front of the car looks like its been hit by a shot gun thats a different story.

Also, invariably its cheaper to get it sorted out yourself in advance of handing it back rather than allowing them to apply top end rates to the charges.

I'll see if i can find the link to the guide - although maybe someone else will post it first.

Hi all, I never lease a car in my life. So I need your kind advices. Is that true people saying leasing companies try to get money when you return the car( i.e.- scratches). If you use a car for three years there will be some dents. Scratches. Please reply.

Another brilliant idea from the government.

What car does emit more CO2 - 1.2tdi Fabia repmobile doing 500 miles every day, or my sports car used for an hour every odd weekend?

that should have read "on average" not "non average". it won't let me edit...

i don't follow... if you get a scratch and you "repair it" you will get a bill for bodywork paint, pride or no pride you get a bill... if you return a leased car you get a bill as well, but it will probably be dearer.

i was hoping someone who has experience having leased cars would share their experience of how expensive those tiny imperfections can be when you return the car. presumably one has little negotiating power at that point.

What is the mpg on diesel?

​we've three cars. none of them do much above 25mpg. an A45 merc, a boxster and a Volvo s40 t5. oO

these xc60 t5s will do close to 25mpg non average. the 17.5mpg was misquoted. it is NOT the figure on the honest john website.

did anyone manage to get this or was it a mis-price?

I posted this deal last week on a diesel:

hotukdeals.com/dea…088

High spec Volvo XC60 for just over £10k over 3 years on a more realistic 12k pa

£9932 across 3 years plus £234 fee

3 months down then £261 pm - all inc. VAT

Includes leather seats, Sat Nav, Bluetooth etc.

Thats going to blow his mind.... lol

The new tax rate for all cars registered from April 2017 is £140, each car will also have a one off tax payment based on several factors, including value, emissions etc. So this would go from 180 per year to 140 per year, with probably a 500 one off up front payment.

I thought my Octavia VRS was thirsty at 39mpg - it's frugal compared to this!

17.5mpg is a crazy figure. Its like a Range Rover numbers!

Cheers - thanks for the info. I wrongly "assumed" the 5 still stood for 5 cylinder.

Interesting to know its an all new engine.

That is horrendous mpg figure. It will probably be worse as well if you do most of your driving in traffic and around town.

I agree, I'm paying £325 per month on a personal loan and it's worth every penny. The car will be mine in 6 months, then I'll likely give it to my wife and get a lease deal. Amazing deals on leases these days.

Personally i take pride in my cars so i proactively maintain and repair it. If you dont, then yes, you run a risk of facing a bill at the end of term. And as you're only renting it, you can understand why.

You said in your original post THESE chelsea tractors, intimating this one. It doesnt. Its got no bigger a wheel base (or footprint) than a regular saloon variant.

HTH

And obscene? Really? What does it matter if someone wants to drive one? I'd an X5 a while ago on big 20 inch rims. Huge it was. Lovely to drive, and great for **** off people like you with chips on their shoulders :wink:

Same here. Have the D5 SE Lux Nav manual as well, with beige leather interior. Probably the most comfortable seats you'll ever have in a car under £100K. Paying 300/month but it's worth every penny. For this price for the geartronic, it's an absolute steal. Buy one before they're all gone! Just factor in the cost of petrol for your mileage and you won't have any surprises.

I dont own a dog, so this deal is useless for me.

Its crazy because its mis-quoted. Thats NOT the average MPG figure recorded on Honest John

So far so good on both. The Volvo has just 51K miles, FVSH and one previous owner and is 2004. Its "the runner" as far as we are concerned. Ends up getting the mundane jobs - i use it to leave at the airport when i working away from home each week and to do the shopping runs at the weekend. The Porsche is the weekend toy. Its got 69K miles and has been trouble free in the six months since i got it and no bills pending. Its tucked up in one of our garages at the minute for the winter.

Leasing either of those would be a bit silly - the former just needs to be some old car performing a function for us. I wouldnt want the vehicle fulfilling that requirement for us to be a new car - it would be a waste of a new car and of money. The latter wouldnt be a candidate for leasing as its not used during the winter so we'd be paying for something all winter we dont use and monthly leasing costs would be sky high on a new one

The third car we have on a PCP deal. Its our main car and gets the most use - an A45 AMG Mercedes. We'll run it for the duration of its three year warranty and then chop it in for something else interesting and probably do similar again. We didnt go for leasing on it as we had an option heavy specific spec we wanted so leasing would have been pricey anyway. Plus if we want to keep it at the end of term we've the option of just paying the final payment.

To reiterate my view - different solutions work for different scenarios for different people. Theres no one size fits all solution. My way to drive one particular car wont be "correct" for everyone else and that doesnt make them wrong because they've done something different.

I'm not advocating leasing OR buying outright, i'm advocating supporting people picking the right solution for their particular needs and budget.

if you have one in the brown, you are certainly not a geography teacher :wink:

Wow

​It's funny you say that. I agree with you to a point but the way the XC90 handles has nothing on an X5, Q7, ML etc.

good deal but i m to young to drive a Volvo...voted hot tough

Where did you get that deal from, Local dealer was asking for £320 for the Sportage 2 auto. thanks

Then you'd be wrong. The new taxation system IS ridiculous. List rice of £39,999 and you pay one rate, list price of £40,000 and you pay £500 a year. If you buy a £40,000 car and get a 25% discount you STILL pay £500 a year tax. Buy a £39,999 car and get no discount and you dont.

Hows that sensible?

Common sense isn't welcome on HUKD.

Feels above reals is the name of the game.

Err did you just get here from the 1970's?

God I'm old. Have gone from looking at Toyota Supras and lotus Elises over the years to checking out a good value Volvo. Where's that dignitas brochure?

17.5mpg is not the real MPG of this car. It'll do 30+ on longish runs and on average well into the 20s.

Also, you do know thats just a sample pic, right? You dont have to have it in that colour?



Its quite simple really. If you were to buy a car and sell it after 2 years or 3 years, you'd have nothing to show for it anyway. Other than a lot less money than you started with.



Sorry to hear that. However, i'm not sure of the relevance to those who might take this deal because it suits their needs and they see the value in it?



Again - whats the relevance? Your needs are different from other peoples. That doesnt make them wrong - you do know that dont you?



You can yes. Thats what i am doing with 2 out of our 3 cars. Volvo S40 T5, bought for £2,500 and probably worth £2K in a couple of years time. Boxster, bought for £6,750, probably worth £5K in a couple of years time.

However that doesnt make everyone elses choices wrong.



I would say most people who buy or lease a new car do so because it suits them to and they like the hassle free aspect of having a new car.

Sorry your prejudices cant let you see that.

Certainly fits the "if it appreciates buy it, depreciates lease it" argument....

I was sorely tempted by this but was disappointed when I saw that 5th seat. Great car for a family of 4 but for my 3rd child that would be an uncomfortable long journey.

Erm...

I have the diesel manual version of this and it does 47-49mpg. Lovely car. Small point, dont assume that YOUR mobile is compatible with the Bluetooth handsfree, check on the volvo website to see if yours is listed. I had to change phones (Company car / Company car)
You dont get a full printed manual either with Volvo these days, its £40 or so extra. Electronic version on board, and downloadable.

Thanks for posting, I did the maths as well and came to the same conclusion, was just too lazy to post.. lol

Still a great deal, especially for those who prefer a petrol car

Am I being a little bit blind. I can only see this at £222.91

Now you too can drive like an absolute **** knowing that you'll be safe behind all that steel when you inevitably trainwreck someone else.

I'd prefer to change the word ridiculous you used, to sensible.

They just offered me XC60 D4 (190) R design 10k miles 24 months at 268 monthly plus £805 initial payment...

“If it appreciates, buy it. If it depreciates, lease it.” J.Paul Getty.

These drive really well. On par with an XC90 that I've owned before, very comfy, smooth gear change and great spec.

you can't postpone when you get one of these can you?
i.e. change the delivery date?

Great, forwarded to my granddad

Especially as he appears to be a Maths teacher

Shame this model is one of the ones doesn't support android auto. Fell in love with it on my latest car.

There has been no road tax since 1938, although it's going to be introduced again. What we have is VED, it's general taxation.

yes should be ok i ordered my replacement lease for my 208 gti and that was ordered late sept for march delivery

I did the online form and followed up with a call

It not about narcisism. Not always.

Put simply, it can be cheaper to rent than own. Sure you can buy an old banger, I used to drive an old V70, and I'd look at these deals with the same "some people have money to burn" mindset as you, but then the clutch and DMF went and I had a £1500 repair. I ended up getting that fixed then sold the car for pretty much what the repair cost, and I was £5k down on the thing.

Contract hire gives you a car with warranty, a fixed monthly charge, and you don't have to borrow money (picking up finance charges) or lock up capital in something that's certain to lose money.

I'm presently doing it both ways, I'm hiring a Nissan Leaf, that's does most of the miles and it's the 'go to' car for nearly all of our trips. Leasing that is definitely cheaper than owning there. I also have a 10yr+ 520d estate for long runs and towing, that lost most of its value years ago. I'm feeling tempted to replace that with one of these XC60s, but I know deep down hanging on to the BM is going to cost less, but it needs to, it's an old car with a far greater chance of something breaking.

People have different circumstances, just understand that what works best for you isn't necessarily the smart move for everybody else.

No idea where you're getting that 17.5mpg figure from - its showing as 23.1mpg. I'd say if used mostly round town thats about right. My S40 T5 does around 27mpg on average.

Agreed, but making it a hard break based on list price is plain daft.

Looks like it. Trying to get a call back from the dealer at the minute.

No its not - its the same wheelbase as a typical saloon car - Volvo S60, etc.

fabulous deal for a really good car.

Offer finished now? The link doesn't work anymore...

The new 'tax' system isn't related to emissions anymore, some would argue it never should have been.

If you look at what I said again, I didn't say all 40k cars were luxury cars - my point was more that almost nobody truly NEEDED cars of such value, so they were usually a luxury rather than a necessity.

Passat diesel estate seems to start at about £24,000 btw - maybe the 'BiTurbo' variants could be considered a bit of a luxury, though not a 'luxury car'.

Knowing some people in the civil service, they've looked at tax proportionate to mileage many times, but it simply doesnt bring in the revenue that blanket taxation does.

Marshall's Volvo in Milton Keynes is offering a slightly cheaper deal for the same term and conditions at £5,669.50 or £236.23/net/month.

Perhaps your nearest Volvo dealer could match?

2.7m with the Range Rover. The Vivaro 9 seater bus is 3m and has narrower tyres. Chelsea tractors are just obscene.

Well the basic BiTDI estate is £37K so it wouldnt take much to push it over £40K.

The point still stands - i dont think anyone looks at a Passat estate and thinks "wow, luxury car"

You can buy a five litre, yes, 5.0 v8 petrol Mustang, shipped half way around the world to your local Ford Dealer and not pay the £500 a year tax.

Or a 240BHP Jaguar XE sports saloon and still get the cheap tax.

Still seem like a sensible policy?

Or you know maybe some people live by "If It Appreciates, Buy It. If It Depreciates, Lease It"... Or maybe some of us make more than minimum wage and don't want to drive around with a family in a £4000 car....Suppose I could go on but seems like most of the comments replying to yours have gotten the point across. I guess we'll see you in the next lease deal post that goes hot.

Lets hope you like it as you'll have 23 months to kick yourself

Irrespective - theres been people on here with them saying they average a lot more. So the honest john figure was wrong if it was 17.5mpg. More likely someone had entered spurious figures that were updated / removed rather than someone trying to make you look stupid on the internet.

Theres no mission it only does 17.5mpg

9000 miles, due to collect on the 31/3/17

Try some leasing quotes & be honest about your mileage - as high mileage would seriously damage the resale value of the car. IE you will pay a lot more per month for 20k miles PA compared to 8k.
Lloyds a flex finance with a purchase option at the end of loan. You get to find your own used car & go from there.
for example £15k is 4.5% APR over 3yrs = £300 a month with a final optional purchase sum of £5750

I already own a XC60 D5 SE Lux Nav. The car is superb. Whilst the petrol model is certainly more thirsty, it's still a fabulous car. This is an unbelievable reasonable lease price for a lot of car.

Yeah, appreciate it wasn't that funny but its early and I haven't had any coffee yet!!!

it's a helluva deal. Lease cars just simply do not work for me. Shame, I would have been interested

Is that the basic model?? Or perhaps a more 'luxury' spec...

'Buy Volvos. They're boxy but they're good'

Any better ?

£500 isnt that bad in the grand scheme of things. The wheelbases of these Chelsea tractors are almost as long as a minibus.

I signed up for a D4 last week and they quoted April delivery.

No, I really didn't - it definitely said 17.5mpg when I commented.

Very good deal.

Where are the comments saying that a 10ten year old Beeemer with a dodgy gearbox for the same £££ is a better option?

You missed less reliable now too.

It comes right hand Drive presumably, the pictures all show left hand drive..

Lease cars more expensive but less hassle. The only smart way to own a new car, no depreciation worries as not an asset, just revenue expenditure. Think I.ll consider one next time with the car allowance, easy come easy go

What mileage?

The diesel is £20 more. I was going to try and see if they will match the petrol price. Anyone else keen?

Agree on the metallic "I'm not farting with confidence" brown colour but thats where it ends....

Comparing a £35k car with a £5k car is like comparing a night of passion with Taylor Swift vs a night of regret with Cletus' toothless sister.

If you were even just a bit unlucky, you could easily end up spending 70% of the lease deal total cost just to keep the £5k car on the road for 2 years. Not all of us are DIY mechanics and even those that are may not wish to spend their valuable time throwing spanners around at the weekend to save money.

Not to mention some of us spend a lot more time in our cars than others so will happily pay extra for a certain degree of luxury and gadgets to soften the level of soul destruction brought about by long motorway journeys.

I had heard the reason Diesel hybrids never really took off was due to several key factors.
- Diesels are more expensive to manufacture, couples to expensive hybrid systems means they would be prohibitively expensive to buy
- Diesel engines are also heavier, and would have a negative impact on the battery range.
- Diesel engines are also physically bigger (usually) so less room for the electrical components and much harder to design.

But, Diesel engine technology has advanced at a faster pace than petrol over the last 2 decades.
Mazda's new Skyactiv-D looks an interesting concept, which promises serious reductions on NOx and Soot.

mazda.com/en/…-d/

My own car uses Adblue, meaning that there are no NOx emmisions, only
Nitrogen, Carbon Dioxide and Water.

Sadly, MPs have out-of-date information (like always) that stems from about 2005, Diesels produced today have never been cleaner.

Lease one.

8K as standard or 10K for a few £ a month more? Doesnt sound far away from the miles most users of these would do?

Also, spending a lot of time in your car does not necessarily mean a lot of motorway miles....

I am a sceptic and when my X5 had to go in for some body work I was loaned one of these and was very impressed. Looks and drives great. Practical as you would expect but all the tech is well implemented and easy to use. Handling is light and doesn't have the feel or the keenness of my X5 but great cat for driving in town and would buy one if I didn't have the Beemer.

Awesome deal for a pretty plush 4x4. If you bought this new you would easily lose double if not triple the total amount of the lease over 2 years. The T5 is a lovely engine too (not particularly ecomical though cough cough...), had the Ford ST version several years ago which was purposly de-refined to make it a bit more chavtastic. Was great fun :smile:

I'm great fun - you'll find me in the kitchen cracking jokes about bmw's coming with optional indicators, skoda'a doubling in value when you fill them with petrol, curved screen TVs being good if you live in a lighthouse and, my absolute favourite, "Volvo = geography teacher"

do it good that when the old one gets collected you have no messing around with it just collected and thats that

Did you call them or fill in the online enquiry form? I filled in the form but no response as yet. Not sure whether I should hope for one now that the deal has expired!

Humanities included geography when I was at school! Unless a bug whoosh just went over my head of course and that's the joke!

How can this be 18mpg? Volvos website quote average of 42mpg. I know manufacturers exaggerate the figures.but I think if there was that much discrepancy you would have every right to return the car under mis-selling

Doesn't matter any way, since tax is included in the price of the lease.

It's a non-issue here.

Went to my local Volvo dealer and secured the XC60 R Design with Maintenance deal (includes service and wear and tear on tyres) 48 month lease £298 per month + 3mth @ £894. Bargain..

I hear you, however, spending lots of time in a leased car? I think not, as the mileage alloawance is very low.

Long motorways journeys would easily take you to triple the amount of miles per year included by most leasing deals.

That's a 50+ car. They are releasing new xc60 which will look like the new xc90 this year so getting rid of stock

Hi, whats the best deal you managed to get on the s class merc ive been looking into getting one as well, thanks.

It'll go to £500 for the first year. Every year after that it will drop to £140, unless the car costs over £40k in which case it will go up to £450 each year for the first five years before dropping to £140.

gov.uk/veh…017

Am I missing something...the initial tax on purchase is higher under the new rules from April 1st but thereafter each year it is a standard rate of £140 unless the value of the car on purchase is over £40,000, whereby it has an additional £310 subsidy to pay for 5 years thereafter and then it reverts to the standard £140 a year under these rules.

You can spend £40,000 on a Passat 2.0TDI estate these days. Hardly a luxury car?

if only this was an xc90 I would've gone for it. need the 7 seats

Other colours are available :smile:

Can't compare a 3 year old £5000 car to a brand new £36,000 one. Of course the older car will be cheaper but that like saying that a Travelodge is cheaper than The Ritz

Perhaps. But the issue can be corrected by using hybrid technology. I don't see many manufacturers building hybrid diesels.

Particulates are really only an issue in densely populated areas.

I managed to get one, thanks OP

My current lease is coming to an end in June and had a call recently offering me an XC60 D4 on 3+35 deal with 10,000 mpa at £243.55 per month or 8,000 mpa at £232.78

Guessing quite a few places will be doing deals on this car and really tempted to go for this

Edit: That's with fleetprices and does not include a ~£300 processing fee

I have one in brown and love it....and no I'm not a geography teacher, I teach Humanities :wink:

Facts that have been quietly brushed under the carpet, i'm afraid. Politicians have the agenda to be anti-diesel, yet they arent enforcing Particulate Filters to be fitted to the new gen petrols. It makes sense if you think about it, if the fuel burn is quicker on a GDI engine, then it will result in an incomplete burn - which creates soot - remember all those Chemistry lessons with a yellow flame Bunsen burner vs blue flame.

I'm afraid if things continue the air will be no cleaner in 15 years time than it is now (maybe worse if GDI engines become more widespread)

It all depends on the method of funding you go for...Personal Contract Hire includes Road Fund Licence for the full term of the contract, Personal Contract Purchase only includes RFL for the first 12 months :smile:

It's not that simple:
- you do not pay road tax on leased cars
- you do not have to worry about MOTs
- brand new tires
- all leasing deals include free breakdown cover
- better safety, better mpg (not in this particular deal, but 90% of the leasing deals posted are diesel cars)

When you factor it all in, you micht find you save quite a lot compared to an old second (3rd or 4th) hand car, that will almost certainly need attention, tires, might fail MOTs etc etc

Dirty polluting petrol. Ill stick to clean, economical Diesel thanks.

Bet you're fun at parties

the deal seems to be expired, the link isn't working like it did yesterday, all i can see now is £221 in vat per month :disappointed:

Brown, Volvo, 17.5MPG 8000 annual miles - bargain!!

Whenever I see any lease deals and the total price you pay to not own a car I never understand it.

Well, I do. My sister is a shallow narcissist who has no appreciation of value and is quite happy living on the never never.

To me a car is a vessel to get from A-B in the dry. My local built up area there are traffic lights every 500 - 1000 metres.

You can own some very decent cars for £4-5000 that you'd be able to sell for £3000 after 2 years. If you are only doing 8K annually then how much damage is going to be done?

I understand that that a lot of people have to have a new car to show off to their neighbour's. A new, juicy brown Volvo would make me question their sanity!!

​I am a lease convert after the 208 deal for peanuts last year. One factor you don't consider, many people are in receipt of a car allowance from work and the terms stipulate the car must be under a certain age, or in manufacturers warranty. Even if not the case, the 208 gti for 160 a month actually meant I was spending less month keeping the mileage down on my aging 16 mpg Scooby. it goes in 2 months though and still no deal comes close. The scirroco deal looks OK, but still not even close.

You get, I don't, don't speak for all of us.
If a petrol does just 17mpg v 40-55mpg fpr the diesel, there would need to be more than 2 times more fuel trucks to transport the fuel to the pumps if we all used petrol. And those trucks run diesel

The refinery pollutes less to produce diesel as well.

And of course there this: dailycaller.com/201…eo/

As much as I don't subscribe to the lease mode of ownership this is an amazing deal.
Seriously thinking of joining the lease camp now.

There was no indication of the lead time in the quote and for the colour, it does say Metallic paint is included but doesn't specify the options.

Looking at leasing but I do 20k per year.Would it be worth leasing(not so much this one but in general) or buy one with instalments as I can't afford to buy one out right

New version is out soon and they are struggling to shift these beforehand

I'll start by saying that I am completely aligned to lease deals - I got the Golf R deal from here nearly 2 years ago and will shortly pick up an S Class Mercedes, on a lease deal, for stupid money per month. However, the OH wanted an SUV and I put the best lease deals, including the various Volvo XC60deals like this, to her and she eventually purchased the latest VW Tiguan that could not match even historical best lease deals; given the mileage, spec etc.

Working it out very roughly, it would've taken similar deals to lease the vehicle over 6 years and she'd have been left with nothing (given lease costs, servicing etc), but at the end of it she's got a vehicle that she owns and doesn't worry about mileage constraints and is still worth something after the 6 years.

Overall, in normal deals then lease is the way to go, but there are better deals if you have the cash to purchase and I'm glad I did it that way for the OH's vehicle. However, maybe that's coming from someone that got an amazing deal on a pre-reg vehicle.....

​need something a bit more roomy. we want the sportage but for the price this is hard to knockback. got the quote through and they are standing over it. pity Kia wont!!!

I thought it was a great deal...then worked out that if i accidentally did a few thousand extra miles, it was a TERRIBLE deal. Good deal if you go to the shops and back.

Excess mileage charge is a bit excessive! 18.36p per mile

Get her a Focus or something then, no need for an SUV. If it's about image (which is almost certainly the case) this will be 'the old shape' in about a month.

thi king of getting one for the wife. not sure on tbe excess mileage cost thoufh and worried about fuel consumption on the school runs!!!!!!

Yes you're right and it's still much more expensive

True, but obviously the lease companies will factor the higher rates into their leases from April. You're still paying it, just indirectly :wink:

D4 represents better value for money compared to the T5 - no question about that.

Unfortunately, I'm a petrol-head; not a diesel-head. X)

You like diesel then?

We get it. You hate both cars AND you hate the very thing keeping us alive, air.

​But not both at the same time.

The D4 190 bhp returns 40-45 mpg with an 8.0 sec 0-60.

Different trim level.

​Although it is 800 gallons over the 2 years. I think that's what I must have been thinking

​You're right. Sorry! Been a long day.

​Apologies. Diesel is only available on 36 month lease.

The same dealer is showing a price of £314 a month on their website

volvocars.com/uk/…c60

Check your maths. 8000 miles @20mpg is 400 gallons. :-)

​Honest john diesel mpg is approx 40mpg depending on gearbox.

Click this

whatcar.com/car…02/

​Diesel is only £18 + VAT more!!!!!!

is the deal still on?
I only see:
24 months (6+23)
8,000mpa
£1,253.23 initial
£208.87 (Inc VAT) Monthly rental

what am i doing wrong?

​If £40 pm more, diesel would be cheaper if 40 mpg achievable.

​I am pretty sure I saw diesels on the same site for around £40pm more, so indeed might be cheaper overall

I would say these deals might get better, new model expected to be revealed in March which might mean a lot of these to shift before it's release.

Thanks, am considering going for this. Do you know if any colour is available? Also any idea on lead time?

Got a quote from Mill Volvo. Terms are slightly different but better in my opinion. They quoted me 6 + 23 @ £221.34 per month + £664.02 initial. Total cost of £5754.84.

Oh my.... That's not good.

8000 miles per annum at 20mpg = 800 gallons of jungle juice. At £5 per gallon = £4k. 40mpg would be £2k. So comparable deal for diesel would be £83.33 per month more, £281.77 per month if diesel deal would be equivalent. Still a cheap car. Just need to factor in the fuel compared to the overall cost. Not bad for a 35k car

​yes

petrol? Cold

Your joke = not funny

Apparently, brown is currently the most popular colour for new vehicles. Used to be black a few years ago, then white more recently and now, brown.

I have the Diesel D5 of this and paid a lot more before they started discounting it. Hands on the best vehicle I've driven in 20 plus years of motoring - and I've driven a fair few new ones via leases.

Volvo = geography teacher

Doesn't sound so bad if you say it will be between £40-£50 of petrol a week. :smile:

Very good dea l. Paying 320 for the new Tiguan and this is a much better deal

Sounds about right for a 2 tonne vehicle with 245bhp and a 0-62mph in 7.2s. :grin:

Very good, especially as its an auto and there are next to no good deals on autos.

Might pop to a dealer to have a look at one.

I was thinking the exact same thing, I'd have no use for this at all :grin:

i was sold till I saw the mpg

Super Heat !!! If wasn't a 25year old bloke with no kids I would go for this !!! It's just abit beyond my years to own something like this ha.

Ouch!!

​My dad has one & whilst it's not in the teens, it's not much more, about 21-22mpg

not one of the dealers stand over the cost advertised on that site. had two quotes for a Kia Sportage today and they were approx £40/month higher than advertised. false advertising!!!!!!

17.5mpg according to Honest John's Real MPG site.

A lot of car for the money without a doubt, and heat added, but remember it's a 9 year old model now, with a new one imminent.

Wow. oO

http://www.whatcar.com/car-leasing/deals/volvo/xc60/estate-t5-245-r-design-nav-5dr-geartronic/personal/1188406/

One of the problems with lease deals, you just don't know what offer's on next.

Enjoying the car? :smile:

Holy moly that's a lot of car. Anyone know excess mileage costs.

Great car. Got the r design just a few months ago but paying £300 a month over 36 months. Cracking find

Nice car but being petrol may be very thirsty?

​you wouldn't pay the tax on this deal

​this is a lease, they pay the tax for you...

If you are thinking of buying a car like this then I suggest you do so before 1st April when the road tax will increase from £180 to an eye watering £500 !

Cars registered before 1st April will also likely command a much higher residual value as a result of the ridiculous road tax increases.

WoW !!!

Very Very tempting - voted hot

Very tempted too get this, always wanted to see how these volvo performed

Good deal. Voted hot.... typical as ive just swapped!

that is ALOT of car for the money oO

Think its because when people **** themselves over May's brexit terms it will show far less...

Good deal.

​To appeal to everyone's inner James May :grin:

As above. It's basically your first monthly payment with 23 monthly payments to follow.

Yes, that's correct

Good deal. Voted hot.

Why they are using a brown car to sell it is beyond me! :neutral_face:

Very nice deal. Heat added.

What does the initial rental mean? Is it what you pay upfront as a deposit but don't get back? Cheers