With hard drive price keep going up, I believe it is now a good time to grab one of these if you are running low on storage.
Specifications
- Interface: USB 3.0 (USB 2.0 compatible)
- Max. transfer rate: ~ 5.0 Gb/s
- Enclosure: Matt
- Colour: Black
- Capacity: 5TB
- Rotational Speed: 7200 rpm
- Cache Buffer: 32 MB
- Average Seek Time: 14 ms
- File System: NTFS (MS Windows)
*The drive can be reformatted to HFS+ file system for full Mac compatibility.
- Power: AC Power adapter cable
Input: 100-240V, 650mA
Output: 12V - 2A
exchangeable plug head
- Dimensions: 129 (L) x 42 (W) x 167 (H) mm
- Backup Software: NTI Backup Now EZ
- System Requirements: Windows® XP / VISTA® / Windows® 7 CPU with 750 MHz or faster, 10MB system hard disk space, 256MB system memory, one free port of USB 3.0 or USB 2.0
Box Contents:
STOR.E CANVIO
NTI Backup Now EZ software (pre-loaded)
USB 3.0 cable ("A" to Micro "B" 2.5")
AC adapter cable
Quick Start Guide
User's Manual (pre-installed on the hard drive)
Warranty Leaflet
Top comments
jimbb to Thermobaric
5 Jan 176#17
It is always because of money and risk.
External drive warranty is voided as soon as it is disassembled. They generally offer same or shorter warranty period. It has added padding between the drive and enclosure so the unit is always well-protected even dropping it from a certain height. All accessories are provided by themselves, therefore, most of the factors are under their control.
However, as if they are selling it a nude drive, except the driver board is being exposed, these manufacturers are exposing themselves to higher risk as well. Let's forget moral for a second and think about this: If you drop a drive and it stopped working, do you think they will still honour the warranty claim? I believe the answer is yes since they are unable (or might not even worth them) to prove that you dropped the drive instead of the drive has developed a fault internally. And yet you have to calculate risk like damages due to bad installation or faulty PSU etc.
Of course, they know people are buying external drives and taking them apart due to lower cost. But if that is the case, they are basically selling a drive that they don't have to be responsible for the coming 2 years. And I am quite certain that the cost of providing support and warranty for 2 years is much higher than what the customer can potentially save.
Customer might save £20 initially, but they have taken on more risks, if the drive does breakdown within warranty, you will end up with a piece of metal where in the other case, £20 for a refurbished drive, I will say it is a pretty good deal :smiley:
And lastly, let's not forget they can also sneak refurbished drive into the external unit and make more money money money.
(Sorry for the lengthly reply hahahahahaahahahah)
Thermobaric
5 Jan 173#16
HDD prices are definitely increasing in general. You will get the occasional good deal on external drives but still, prices are going up. Why external drives are cheaper, I don't know. I guess there is probably a bigger market for external but I mean, external drives have to have a drive, why use different HDDs? You're adding an enclosure, power supply e.t.c. and charging more for a bare drive. Madness. Price collusion and cartels with WD and Seagate.
I bought a WD 4TB Green in May 2015 for £113. The equivalent WD 4TB Blue (as green is being phased out) is now £127.
Latest comments (40)
daBluone
9 Jan 17#40
Noisy drive but good value.
Bizarrely mine has started to cause my windows 10 PC to blue screen on occasion if plugged in on boot?
jimhuf
6 Jan 17#26
5TB is a lot to store on one drive, a lot to lose
nougat to jimhuf
7 Jan 172#39
Draw yourself a treasure map with an X marks the spot. You shouldn't lose it then!
Or buy 1 thousand dvds to back up to, roughly £200 and a lot of time and effort
Atheos
6 Jan 17#37
I bought this when it was £98 on Amazon.
It does get hot and you can hear a clicking sound every now and again.
I sit it on top a fan and that keeps down the temps.
Just use it as a backup drive.
If I was to use it often, I would take it out and run it internally.
Synology are pretty picky with their recommended drives. The internal HD is on the approved list.
jimbb to Atheos
6 Jan 172#38
You should also look into Xpenology + HP Proliant Server which you can get a 5 bay "Synology" for about £170 :smiley:
And it won't have the picky problem as it just a generic computer.
Shard
6 Jan 17#36
Tried it, £125
jimbb
6 Jan 17#35
That's correct. Warranty is voided when you pry it off. But if you want to use it as an internal drive, that's the only way.
But if you only want to use it as it intended to (external drive), of course USB 3.0 is more than enough to max out the driver itself.
daskapital
6 Jan 17#34
Surely this invalidates the warranty? USB3.0 should be fast enough right ? I mean USB 3.0 at 5Gbits has a rate of 5 Gbit/s (625 MB/s) ... i'm quite sure the drive itself will not be that fast.
Thermobaric
6 Jan 17#31
How is the noise on these? I hear Toshiba drives are quite noisy.
jimbb to Thermobaric
6 Jan 17#33
I think they are not particularly noisy compare to the other brand, but they do get quite hot (45 degree) during a long period of read/write operations. Lucky that it is getting quite cold this winter :\
B1000
6 Jan 17#32
Bought one recently and returned it within few days. This drive is extremely noisy and sounds like a dying HDD. I shouldn't of ignored the reviews I guess. It's unfortunate as the Toshiba 2/3TB drives work great, and never had any issues with them. But these days I would recommend WD Elements drives over these.
thevman2k3
6 Jan 17#28
one of the worst desktop hard drives. went faulty within 6 months of buying the 4tb version a year back. Go Western Digital
jimbb to thevman2k3
6 Jan 17#30
It is always about luck and probability, I have 6 of these and they all run 24x7 for the past 2 years, still going strong though :smiley:
masktron
6 Jan 17#29
Waiting for a good NAS deal on here but they seem few and far between. Hope my patience pays off!
DonCapri
6 Jan 17#27
i have 500gb, 1tb, 2tb, 4tb hard drives. should i wait for 8tb or get this hmmmmm...
DrManhattan
6 Jan 17#25
I bought a 4TB external several years ago for roughtly the same price.. I'd expect 8TB's to be this price now.
Cold to the industry. Not a hot deal imo so not voting.
edit: bought 4TB TOURO feb 2013 @ ~£130
ukez
5 Jan 17#22
eBuyer are Messer's
jimbb to ukez
5 Jan 17#24
One trick you can try, Flubit, I got an offer for £101 through them via another supplier.
xraven360
5 Jan 17#23
Yeah was planning on adding it to my xbox one for some extra storage, allready got a 2tb seagate one connected but that's nearly full :disappointed:
Thermobaric
5 Jan 171#21
I've never thought of it from that angle before Jimbb. Quite clever really. Force your customers to void warranties chasing a bargain so they don't have to deal with it in the future.
skengali
5 Jan 17#20
I'll ask so someone else doesn't have to lol. Can this be used for a PS4?
Shard
5 Jan 172#19
If you want another excuse, bear in mind the pound has been going down against other currencies for the last 6 months, especially the dollar, and will probably either stay the same or continue for at least the next year, unless Trump really screws up.
That's been my excuse for all the electronics I've been buying anyway :-)
4Qman
5 Jan 171#18
Jimbb, thanks for this input.
Thermobaric
5 Jan 173#16
HDD prices are definitely increasing in general. You will get the occasional good deal on external drives but still, prices are going up. Why external drives are cheaper, I don't know. I guess there is probably a bigger market for external but I mean, external drives have to have a drive, why use different HDDs? You're adding an enclosure, power supply e.t.c. and charging more for a bare drive. Madness. Price collusion and cartels with WD and Seagate.
I bought a WD 4TB Green in May 2015 for £113. The equivalent WD 4TB Blue (as green is being phased out) is now £127.
jimbb to Thermobaric
5 Jan 176#17
It is always because of money and risk.
External drive warranty is voided as soon as it is disassembled. They generally offer same or shorter warranty period. It has added padding between the drive and enclosure so the unit is always well-protected even dropping it from a certain height. All accessories are provided by themselves, therefore, most of the factors are under their control.
However, as if they are selling it a nude drive, except the driver board is being exposed, these manufacturers are exposing themselves to higher risk as well. Let's forget moral for a second and think about this: If you drop a drive and it stopped working, do you think they will still honour the warranty claim? I believe the answer is yes since they are unable (or might not even worth them) to prove that you dropped the drive instead of the drive has developed a fault internally. And yet you have to calculate risk like damages due to bad installation or faulty PSU etc.
Of course, they know people are buying external drives and taking them apart due to lower cost. But if that is the case, they are basically selling a drive that they don't have to be responsible for the coming 2 years. And I am quite certain that the cost of providing support and warranty for 2 years is much higher than what the customer can potentially save.
Customer might save £20 initially, but they have taken on more risks, if the drive does breakdown within warranty, you will end up with a piece of metal where in the other case, £20 for a refurbished drive, I will say it is a pretty good deal :smiley:
And lastly, let's not forget they can also sneak refurbished drive into the external unit and make more money money money.
(Sorry for the lengthly reply hahahahahaahahahah)
xraven360
5 Jan 17#11
How reliable are the drives tho?
ThatTechGuy to xraven360
5 Jan 17#12
coinflip
jimbb to xraven360
5 Jan 17#15
What you need is backup, backup and backup.
RAID is not a backup. Consider Crashplan or Backblaze or Arq + Amazon Cloud drive / Google drive unlimited.
Or if you like DIY and command line, rclond is your friend :smiley:
Sambat
5 Jan 171#14
Thanks, just trying to track down large 5400rpm cool running drives.
popoyaya
5 Jan 172#13
Read the article. It applies to mechanical drives too.
sradmad
5 Jan 17#10
good find op, heat added
JC2MULTIPLAYER000
5 Jan 17#9
this is not an ssd drive that uses nand. It's a mechanical drive so the shortage is irrelevant
JC2MULTIPLAYER000
5 Jan 172#1
since when were hdd prices going up?
jimbb to JC2MULTIPLAYER000
5 Jan 171#8
I read this article hrough a reddit post previously, not sure if it is true but it seems 5TB was not dropping back to £99.99 that Amazon once did.
Ordered one of these over breakfast this morning and contemplated putting it up myself until the site told me it was already added 3 months ago, is still live and is still cold!
Heat from me.
Opening post
Specifications
- Interface: USB 3.0 (USB 2.0 compatible)
- Max. transfer rate: ~ 5.0 Gb/s
- Enclosure: Matt
- Colour: Black
- Capacity: 5TB
- Rotational Speed: 7200 rpm
- Cache Buffer: 32 MB
- Average Seek Time: 14 ms
- File System: NTFS (MS Windows)
*The drive can be reformatted to HFS+ file system for full Mac compatibility.
- Power: AC Power adapter cable
Input: 100-240V, 650mA
Output: 12V - 2A
exchangeable plug head
- Dimensions: 129 (L) x 42 (W) x 167 (H) mm
- Backup Software: NTI Backup Now EZ
- System Requirements: Windows® XP / VISTA® / Windows® 7 CPU with 750 MHz or faster, 10MB system hard disk space, 256MB system memory, one free port of USB 3.0 or USB 2.0
Box Contents:
STOR.E CANVIO
NTI Backup Now EZ software (pre-loaded)
USB 3.0 cable ("A" to Micro "B" 2.5")
AC adapter cable
Quick Start Guide
User's Manual (pre-installed on the hard drive)
Warranty Leaflet
Top comments
External drive warranty is voided as soon as it is disassembled. They generally offer same or shorter warranty period. It has added padding between the drive and enclosure so the unit is always well-protected even dropping it from a certain height. All accessories are provided by themselves, therefore, most of the factors are under their control.
However, as if they are selling it a nude drive, except the driver board is being exposed, these manufacturers are exposing themselves to higher risk as well. Let's forget moral for a second and think about this: If you drop a drive and it stopped working, do you think they will still honour the warranty claim? I believe the answer is yes since they are unable (or might not even worth them) to prove that you dropped the drive instead of the drive has developed a fault internally. And yet you have to calculate risk like damages due to bad installation or faulty PSU etc.
Of course, they know people are buying external drives and taking them apart due to lower cost. But if that is the case, they are basically selling a drive that they don't have to be responsible for the coming 2 years. And I am quite certain that the cost of providing support and warranty for 2 years is much higher than what the customer can potentially save.
Customer might save £20 initially, but they have taken on more risks, if the drive does breakdown within warranty, you will end up with a piece of metal where in the other case, £20 for a refurbished drive, I will say it is a pretty good deal :smiley:
And lastly, let's not forget they can also sneak refurbished drive into the external unit and make more money money money.
(Sorry for the lengthly reply hahahahahaahahahah)
I bought a WD 4TB Green in May 2015 for £113. The equivalent WD 4TB Blue (as green is being phased out) is now £127.
Latest comments (40)
Bizarrely mine has started to cause my windows 10 PC to blue screen on occasion if plugged in on boot?
Or buy 1 thousand dvds to back up to, roughly £200 and a lot of time and effort
It does get hot and you can hear a clicking sound every now and again.
I sit it on top a fan and that keeps down the temps.
Just use it as a backup drive.
If I was to use it often, I would take it out and run it internally.
Synology are pretty picky with their recommended drives. The internal HD is on the approved list.
And it won't have the picky problem as it just a generic computer.
But if you only want to use it as it intended to (external drive), of course USB 3.0 is more than enough to max out the driver itself.
Cold to the industry. Not a hot deal imo so not voting.
edit: bought 4TB TOURO feb 2013 @ ~£130
That's been my excuse for all the electronics I've been buying anyway :-)
I bought a WD 4TB Green in May 2015 for £113. The equivalent WD 4TB Blue (as green is being phased out) is now £127.
External drive warranty is voided as soon as it is disassembled. They generally offer same or shorter warranty period. It has added padding between the drive and enclosure so the unit is always well-protected even dropping it from a certain height. All accessories are provided by themselves, therefore, most of the factors are under their control.
However, as if they are selling it a nude drive, except the driver board is being exposed, these manufacturers are exposing themselves to higher risk as well. Let's forget moral for a second and think about this: If you drop a drive and it stopped working, do you think they will still honour the warranty claim? I believe the answer is yes since they are unable (or might not even worth them) to prove that you dropped the drive instead of the drive has developed a fault internally. And yet you have to calculate risk like damages due to bad installation or faulty PSU etc.
Of course, they know people are buying external drives and taking them apart due to lower cost. But if that is the case, they are basically selling a drive that they don't have to be responsible for the coming 2 years. And I am quite certain that the cost of providing support and warranty for 2 years is much higher than what the customer can potentially save.
Customer might save £20 initially, but they have taken on more risks, if the drive does breakdown within warranty, you will end up with a piece of metal where in the other case, £20 for a refurbished drive, I will say it is a pretty good deal :smiley:
And lastly, let's not forget they can also sneak refurbished drive into the external unit and make more money money money.
(Sorry for the lengthly reply hahahahahaahahahah)
RAID is not a backup. Consider Crashplan or Backblaze or Arq + Amazon Cloud drive / Google drive unlimited.
Or if you like DIY and command line, rclond is your friend :smiley:
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ssd-hdd-shortage-nand-market,33112.html
HTH
Guide here: http://goughlui.com/2013/10/01/how-to-disassemble-toshiba-canvio-desk-3tb-external-hard-drive/
Heat from me.