​Quite a simple conclusion. It's a bike from Tesco. ALL of their bikes have 75% or similar off at all times. Therefore the going rate for a bike from Tesco is £45 so this isn't a deal because when this one goes another will appear at the same price, you won't be missing out.

By looking at the bike it is obvious it is not a quality bicycle. Tesco get these delivered for about £10 a unit and the suspension is purely for looks, and will have a detrimental effect on how it rides, not a positive one.

Add in the fact that it will either be self assembly or assembled by a tesco employee with no bike building expertise the £45 doesn't take into account the costs of making it roadworthy.

As a long term prospect item like plastic brake levers, pressed steel brake arms will bend/brake and have so much flex that setting them up is nigh on impossible.

As it's not an established brand, but instead a name put a generic Chinese product any frame specific spares will be nigh on impossible to source, pop along to Tesco customer services and ask what spares support they offer.

At 45 quid any repairs will render it scrap when you take labour into account.

At this price your best bet is to search out a decent used bike on ebay or Gumtree. I wouldn't recommend much new in this price range as by and large it's frankly rubbish.

Cycling is a cheap way to get about but does require some investment at the beginning. I'm of the opinion that something that will be enjoyable, safe and long lasting can't be manufactured for £45. Buy a good bike and look after it and you'll most likely lose less than £45 and your child will have had a better bike. You'll also be keeping the landfill site or back of the shed free of a rusting lump.

My mam and dad never bought me a bike with suspension and they never bought me a lightweight bike. I was brought up in Wales and used to go biking through the forests and up and down steep hills. The chain used to come off and you learnt how to sort it out. The brakes would stretch and you learnt how to sort that. I loved my bikes and they were not these super bikes that that purists are saying you NEED to have or else your child will hate biking. Now don't get me wrong some kids will not want to do maintenance on their bike but just think of the practical hands on education they will get if they do need to do some maintenance. I have a feeling that all these bike snobs have forgotten that once upon a time they did not have this £2000+ bike and they started on some piece of tat and now love their more expensive bike.

1. What? It wasn't me talking about who manufactured bikes - suggest you point your so called learnings at them
2. I think you fail to understand that that bike is really not worth £45 and certainly not £160 - I provided you with a great alternative for £10, so not sure I get your point
3. My comment was that the 15 or so people you are referring to are 'unlikely' to be riding it giving that they are likely to be the parents - all I have done is try and help to point out why it may be worth buying something better
4. I do not believe I have ever said this, especially as I pointed out a £10 alternative along with a brand new bike for under £100, but lets not let facts get in the way of a good story ...

At the end of the day, you appear to be dead set to try and prove me wrong - why I do not know as this isn't about right or wrong, just opinion. I have no interest in buying this scrap metal, but I thought I would help save others some cash by letting them know that there are better alternatives - as always, it is all about choice ... you can choose to listen or choose not to. Same as I now choose to stop discussing this with you as there is an old saying "never argue with an idiot, as they will beat you with experience every time"

Hope your little one enjoys the bike you have bought.

.. Let's also be clear- I won't be responding to you again. I have better things to do

Let's be clear, I'm disparaging rude and arrogant "bikists" like you who put the rest of us off cycling.

"Aspire for better things"? You're now disparaging bike racing? Delightful!

And more don't. I aspire for better things for my kids than that, personally. I certainly don't aspire for them to think if they don't spend £45 on the bicycle tyres, they may as well not bother - or to grow up to think you have to spend lots on things and look down on those who don't.

BTW, Enough of trying to answer questions which has turned into a meaningless discussion. I am out!

Hope this deal has helped few people who cann't afford £1000 bikes like me.

When you find your kid good enough to challenge the racers around the World, Europe, UK or heck even your local county, feel free to get him a Phanuel Krencker’s ‘Bicyclettes de Luxe' retailing at around $34,000.

Here is what i inferred from your comments:
1. Tesco don't make bikes so don't buy it. Halfords don't make bikes either... Most of the time it is relabelling by major retailers. Hence i suggested earlier to try to understand how retail sector works. You'll learn a lot. I have spent 15 years consulting for retailers so I know a bit or two about how and why you can some times get massive price drops.

2. This is a £45 bike, and because you cann't get a £45 bike elsewhere, don't buy it. What you fail to understand is that this was a £160 bike. Had Tesco offered you the same for £135, you would have happily bought it.

3. You suggest that you have more experience than the 15 odd parents who bought this bike for their kids, and have bothered to rate it too. Your comments should be take more seriously because apparently you can find a £10 bike with your superior searching skills.

4. You believe everyone who doesn't ride a £1000 bike doesn't have a clue on what Bike means.

Dude, this is a bike at £45. On Hot Deals UK, we post deals. Is this a good deal on Price - Yes? Is this a Bad Deal on Quality - ? From your perspective yes but you have neither provided a single bad review about the bike, neither given any evidence to your comments.

And then you ask why people don't take your comments seriously.

Perhaps with an attitude like that that's all they'll ever aspire to too. Plenty of kids race bikes actually.

A kid's bike is mainly used for pootling round the park and back, not for competition or touring....you do know that don't you?!

We clearly have a different view of what 'decent' means - I would suggest that it is at least a dual compound tyre for anyone doing trail riding on a MTB. You can get Racing Ralph's and Nobly Nics for just under £40, but its false economy as they both wear really quickly.

Can't get decent pair of tyres for less than £45? You're kidding right?!?!?!? And you wonder why people don't take your advice seriously...

Would I take the word of random people who shop at Tesco's who likely know next to nothing about bikes, and have passed this to their kids who again likely know nothing about bikes, or the word of someone who works with bikes for a living, and spent many a happy day out riding from being a very young age, who has also been able to get my children into riding also?

Look, you have clearly made your choice to give your little one this bike and I truely hope they enjoy it and get into cycling, but trying to pretend that this is anything other than scrap is dilusional.

A lot of children are put off biking because of the scrap metal their parents bought them when younger - thinking it was cheap and had a nice paint job. Only to find that it was in fact not even worth the £45 they had paid as it laid unused for years in the garage.

To give you some context of how cheap and nasty this bike is, it is hard to find a pair of decent tyres for the price of this whole bike ... what corners were cut in its making?

Hopefully, this post and the others above may not convince you not waste your cash on this item as your mind is clearly made up, but it hopefully provides others with some information they can use to inform their purchasing decision for their little ones.

As for teh challenge to show where the easy to find bikes are - I would start here http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=20+bike&_sop=15

Easy enough - just one google search away :smiley:

EDIT: In fact, just get this - only £10 ... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Boys-DAWES-Redtail-Bike-20-Inch-Wheel-RED-Approx-Age-6-8-/252721542359?hash=item3ad760b4d7:g:v0IAAOSw5cNYd4II

Please help us find "these EASY to FIND" bikes.. Your statement of its rubbish doesn't matter as people who have bought the bike for their kids, are happy and have rated it 4.6/5.00.

If i have to choose between a random statement vs. people who have bought a bike and have rated it, I would happily accept the opinion of the latter, as that is more meaningful!

​Tesco can be good for what they are experts in! Groceriws and electricals!

For bikes they're terrible. An entry level full sussed will cost you around £1000. Food for thought

​Its a pile of rubbish.
I wouldn't buy a sack of rubbish even if it were cheap! Same logic here. Terrible. Easily find rigid 2nd hand bikes at this price.

This is a decent bike. I personally have had good experience with Tesco and their awesome service. If anything is wrong, just give them a call and they will pick it up refunding you in full.

Respect your opinion, however....

1) You have to assemble it yourself. You can make sure you take extra care while assembling it for your child, like every parent does.
2) You do need to care how big retailers work and why they can offer such discounts on bikes in winters.

These bikes come for self assembly with instructions so what does it matter what the shop display is? I had a Tesco cheap road bike before I traded for the cheap hybrid for comfort reasons, and it was fine and I sold in near new condition for what I Paid for it, near as.

As an example this from Decathlon will be better suited for a new rider - no gears to worry about and rigid frame reducing the weight (3.25kg lighter - which is quite a big difference, especially for small legs)

https://www.decathlon.co.uk/20-racingboy-300-kids-bike-id_8339604.html

£40 more, but will be good for regular family rides and will likley still be worth £40 when they outgrow it - so financially net neutral with the tesco one.

20" bikes are generally for kids between 6-8. When they move up to 24" bikes, you can take a judgement call - if they are really enjoying cycling then I would advise investing a bit more into the 24" bike as it should last for around 4 years (8-12) - again Decathlon do a good range of reasonably specced reasonably priced bikes for regular riders - or you could go for a Specialized equivalent if your child is keen to get more into riding.

The other thing to consider is suspension - for a kids bike suspension is mainly pointless. A rigid frame/fork would actually be better for 99% of kids (unless they are doing regular red/blue runs at a trail centre) ... the tyres will provide enough shock absorbtion for someone that size.

All cheap suspension does is add more weight (making it harder to pedal and get uphills) and bounce around making the bike less predictable and an absolute chore to ride.

Consider a rigid bike, especially for a young rider - if you do go for suspension then front only is more than adequate, but make sure it isn't just a pogo stick spring ... needs some dampening control.

A very quick google search and at the top of the page was this:





Hopefully, you can see the problem - unfortunately, not everyone can until it results in a trip to A&E

Seriously, just do the math ... break down the cost of the component parts and wonder at what corners are cut to sell for £45 and also provide all parties in the supply chain with a margin.

If you want a bike to jump on evry blue moon then may I suggest getting something entry level from Decathlon (reasonable spec for very cheap). Buying one of these BSO's will only result in a bad experience from biking and likely put the person off resulting in a £45 rust pile in your garage. Surely it is worth spending a little more and getting something that will inspire more use?

I'm not the initial person you replied to (Brian). I don't think it's worth £45 or any amount of money, I wouldn't pay money to risk my safety.

I don't feel like I need to provide evidence that they're dangerously assembled, I've seen it for myself from a post on facebook for the local cycling shop a friend has recently set up. He's already had one bike turn up with the forks on the wrong way round.

I don't honestly care how big retailers work. I don't think they should sell these pieces of junk - it's that simple.

Is this similar to the POC 200?

No heat this is truly awful full Susser bike to do what. It weights a ton, just buy so.ething second hand if £45 is all you can afford. I bought second hand bikes all the time for my kids. Trek, specialised far better than this crud. Both my kids now enjoy biking. Buy your kids this and they will hate, no resale value either.

For balance, I bought a bike last year from Asda for £89, was originally £99 and then went down even more after I got it. It's an adult flat bar hybrid, with aluminium frame and shimano gearset. It's absolutely fine. Cheap doesn't have to mean bad.

Let me get this straight.. You voted this cold because Tesco does not make bikes but stocks them? Mate, do you have any idea how the retail sector works, and especially how the mega retailers work.

Regarding your comment on building a bike, are you talking about the manufacturing or assembly. These are two different things. I have seen no evidence from the comments of other users the front fork has been built backwards. Care to share some evidence?

I have no issue with you voting this cold, but at least make a decent effort to justify your comment on why you think it is a £45 bike at best as per your comments as my objective here is to understand why you think its not worth more.

Let me suggest a better way of dealing with such a situation.

1. User A posts an item heavily discounted.
2. User B suggests the discount doesnt matter as the item is worth the current offered price.
3. User A requests more information.
4. User B posts 10 different items, of similar size, better build quality at a fractionally higher cost thus justifying why his comment was not a random comment but he had done some research into this before commenting.
5. User A accepts the new information, cancels his order, buys the new shiny item, with much better specs, build quality at a fractionally better price!!!

Link to a good read on why you shouldn't buy a BSO ... https://www.southcoastbikes.co.uk/Dont-Buy-a-Cheap-Bike

Exactly ... I bought my kids the Specialized Hotrock for £220 each ... just sold my eldests last year for £150 ... so it basically cost me £70 for a great bike, the kids want to ride. Rather than buying this £45 thing that will weigh a lot, has pogo suspension, and will likely ride awfully resulting in your kids just leaving it in the garage to rust, I would support jonnystorms point, and suggest you either buy a better bike new, or look for a second hand one - you won't lose as much in the long term as it will have a resale value and your kids will love it!

Lets just agree to disagree whether it's a good bike or not.

Dealwise, it's not a great deal because it's essentially RRP. It's the deal equivalent of posting up all those Sofas that are in the year round sales at you know where. You're not getting anything that you can't get for that price all year round! :smile:

Superb deal and heated up :smile:...got the boys black and white one, which was helpfully posted previously.

Bike punches well above its £45 weight.....not heavy or cumbersome to ride.....yes its 14kg's but my little person will not be carrying it....it's a bike, you ride it.....

Superb deal and heated up :smile:...got the boys black and white one, which was helpfully posted previously.

Bike punches well above its £45 weight.....not heavy or cumbersome to ride.....yes its 14kg's but my little person will not be carrying it....it's a bike, you ride it.....

Bicycle shaped object...

BSO

Sure, so long as you can reccomend me a new car for £500. Cars, planes, trains...fortunately for us you can't buy these things at such a low price that they're dangerous. Sadly that's not the case for bicycles.

Would you trust a shelf stacker to MOT or service your car? No? Oh but you'd trust a shelf stacker with no relevant training to build a bike for your child? On your head be it, seems like a recipe for disaster for me. Seems to be a regular occurrence that the front fork on these things is installed backwards on these BSO's given the lack of training, yet people keep giving them money. *sigh*

Voted cold - only buy this for your child if you don't care much for their safety and want to put them off cycling for life. It might work for the first month or two but good luck after that. Sorry OP!

20" bike, so intended for ages of around 7 years old and yet it weighs 14.25kg. That's not a bike, that's a tank. Junk.

​Quite a simple conclusion. It's a bike from Tesco. ALL of their bikes have 75% or similar off at all times. Therefore the going rate for a bike from Tesco is £45 so this isn't a deal because when this one goes another will appear at the same price, you won't be missing out.

By looking at the bike it is obvious it is not a quality bicycle. Tesco get these delivered for about £10 a unit and the suspension is purely for looks, and will have a detrimental effect on how it rides, not a positive one.

Add in the fact that it will either be self assembly or assembled by a tesco employee with no bike building expertise the £45 doesn't take into account the costs of making it roadworthy.

As a long term prospect item like plastic brake levers, pressed steel brake arms will bend/brake and have so much flex that setting them up is nigh on impossible.

As it's not an established brand, but instead a name put a generic Chinese product any frame specific spares will be nigh on impossible to source, pop along to Tesco customer services and ask what spares support they offer.

At 45 quid any repairs will render it scrap when you take labour into account.

At this price your best bet is to search out a decent used bike on ebay or Gumtree. I wouldn't recommend much new in this price range as by and large it's frankly rubbish.

Cycling is a cheap way to get about but does require some investment at the beginning. I'm of the opinion that something that will be enjoyable, safe and long lasting can't be manufactured for £45. Buy a good bike and look after it and you'll most likely lose less than £45 and your child will have had a better bike. You'll also be keeping the landfill site or back of the shed free of a rusting lump.

Great find thanks, just ordered the black one for my sons birthday next month.

Great price. Thanks.

They want ultegra full carbon with di2 for the price!

How exactly did you come up with the conclusion that it is a £45 bike at best? Have you or your children had experience riding this?

A rating of 4.6/5.0 indicates it is a pretty decent bike.

Would you please recommend other options at this price for the same size?

​On this occasion he has a point. This is a £45 bike at best. For the RRP you'd have to be mad not to buy a Specialized or other quality brand instead.

Heat and wheelspin from me.