this.

I personally hate tearing. It really ruins the experience for me and V-Sync is less than ideal making you sacrifice rates for tear free gaming.
I purchased a G Sync monitor not too long ago and the difference is astounding. No more torn frames while the GPU pumps out however many frames it can muster.

Freesync is practically the same and either form of adaptive sync should be standard on all panels imo as they're essential for a good experience.

That's BS. There are games that require over 4Gb. Resident Evil 7 requires at least 6 to have all features on at FHD. Don't be an idiot. You only need 1 ONE game to make use of more memory to make the card with less memory a low end trash.

Where is your 4Gb now???

Nice price.

Hot for being Amazon, shame it's reference design.

Nice price.

Hot for being Amazon, shame it's reference design.

cracking card i picked mine up last week. very little noise and blows away any game ive thrown at it.

Ive just got myself a freesync monitor..... does it really make a big difference? I currently have a Geforce 1060 6gb (I didn't get buy the monitor for the freesync, it just comes as a feature).
I am debating selling my 1060 if the freesync is worth it!

argh. I'm torn. this or a 6gb 1060!

hot price for 8gb! I got the 4gb 470 from amazon and happy with everything in 1080p hd. I tried it on 4k on my dad's tv and it was poor. not sure the 480 is ready for 4k - i think more 1440p? so waiting for the '490' til i upgrade

Seeing a few good deals on these :smiley: makes me optimistic :smile:

Wanted a freesync card but after 2 480s both giving flickering on desktop and black screens I went with the 1060 6GB. It's a known driver problem. A 470 had the same problem on my other PC. I know three other people who avoided the RX cards for this exact reason. AMD **** up.

should I wait for Vega? I have an 1440p freesync 144hz monitor

This is simply not true.

You can see recent tests here:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_1080_Amp_Extreme/29.html

Ignore the 1080 eye candy, techpower re-run all their tests with the same drivers.

Take a look at the 480 and the 1060.

Now, right now, without any deals, the 1060 is selling for 228.99 (Amazon price).

The difference is a bit much at this price point and the 480 at 199.99 is a good price.

What is not good though, is that this a reference 480 design, which is, without mincing words, awful.

Blower cooler, doesn't OC well, and is loud.

If you already have an AMD FreeSync monitor, then there is little point buying anything but AMD. So, if you have FreeSync and need a budget card, go for it.

If not, consider your options, look for a non reference design (AMD or NVIDIA).

Both cards are good at this class and price.

Vega, hopefully, won't suck. But AMD have delayed the dates till mid 2017, so if you can't wait 6 months, then you know what to do.

Cheers for ur replies.
I have just got a AOC u3477pq, so its 3440 x 1440, but i am running a geforce 1060 6gb graphics card. I didn't get the monitor for the freesync, but seeing as I have have it, im thinking of maybe selling the 1060 and getting this RX 480.
I have never seen games with sync on, so i don't know how much difference it makes and if its worth it.

​i have a build with a 290x and I gonna move it to my living room TV, in the moment what I play most is gears of war 4 I hit 90 fps locked on high in multiplayer and titanfall 2 I maxed out and plenty fps, but I'm really an hardcore gamer still have to finish tomb raider and deux ex in the moment. I plan doing a ryzen mini itx build and add this rx 480 10 fps boost on gears I would be happy do you reckon?

If you're doing an ITX build a blower fan is actually a better choice, in a case that small you want all the hot air out ASAP, and a blower will do that. Even if the 290x fit you would absolutely not want that card anywhere near an ITX chassis, it will turn it to molten steel.

Depends on how much you need those frames, but given the ITX a 470 would also do a good job on those titles, whilst using less power. Otherwise look at the 1050ti LP cards.

You can ignore Nate's generic link if you'd like something more objective.

http://www.babeltechreviews.com/rx-480-vs-290x-vs-gtx-1060-amd-neglected-hawaii-35-games-benchmarked/

There's little to pick between them. Either card could be faster depending on the titles you play, but importantly this article also shines a light on the driver optimisation that's taken place since launch on the 480, but fallen away on the 1060. This article was also pre ReLive too, so expect another 1-2fps on many titles.

​i want amd otherwise no point in having freesync and the case is the Silverstone sg13 my 290x won't fit is the 3 fan vapor x model

Freesync simply eliminates tearing.
If tearing has bothered you then you'll enable vsync but that will drop you down to 30fps if you can't maintain 60fps. Freesync fixes all those issues.

Perhaps Linus can explain.

I tend to play all games windowed borderless, FPS limited with RTSS, and in-game v-sync disabled. Smoothest I've found.

I think this for per spec to price ratio and I have been looking at some reviews and it does outperform in most cases. Noise isnt too bad knowing its doing a good job :smiley:

better waiting till may for the new AMD gpus

Cheaper than 1060. Quicker. More Vram.

You mean he has to update his bookmarks and stop bellowing debunked information on every AMD thread past and present? He's not going to like that much.

significantly better than a GTX 970 right?

That's BS. There are games that require over 4Gb. Resident Evil 7 requires at least 6 to have all features on at FHD. Don't be an idiot. You only need 1 ONE game to make use of more memory to make the card with less memory a low end trash.

Where is your 4Gb now???

P.S. you sure know what you are talking about you silly thing.

What the ****!?

So the 480 trounces the 1060 AND 1070, but also rips my Fury a new one... that makes no sense unless it really is swapping memory that hard.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/resident-evil-7-pc-favors-radeon-over-nvidia/

Even the 470 murders my card and obliterates the 1060 and 1050. What a strange title!

Anyone have any idea whether a regular good graphics card such as this is good for CAD and other calc/design work (not proper 3D stuff, just structural engineering), or whether a similarly priced CAD dedicated card would be better?
My brother is after one and he has no interest in gaming whatsoever.

Kinda need a 4GB 480 in there to see wtf is going on. Very strange results indeed.

My son has a GTX 1050Ti. Is the RC 480 8 GB worth the upgrade? Or is there another model upgrading too? Or is the GTX 1050Ti good enough to wait for the next big step forward.

does Amazon include free CIV6?

I ordered mine from amazon on the 17th at £220 , contacted amazon chat to see if I could get a refund of the difference and they said no. But if I wanted I could return it for a full refund and buy it again at 199 !!!!!????!!!!!
What an utter pile of nonsense. I explained that both Amazon and me would both be better off if they simply refunded me the difference but no. So amazon now have to pick up the tab for the postage too lol

Wait for Ryzen

Make of this what you will >

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/5q3tdo/resident_evil_7_runs_up_to_22_faster_on_radeon_rx/

Both cards have around the same performance, the RX480 will be better in DX12/Vulkan titles of which there aren't any. For this money I'd get the RX480 even though it has the reference cooler.

Ryzen is a CPU, I've no idea what relevance it has to buying this graphics card, there are decent CPUs already which won't bottleneck this graphics card. Your post is trolling.

That is very interesting :smiley:

I'm waiting for Vyzen.

Lighten up, Fish.

For design software you want to focus on a good CPU.

Freesync/Gsync over standard is a night and day difference. It's like going from DVD to Bluray, or 1080p to 4K, the difference to your gaming experience when you don't have tearing, juddering and jumpy frame rates massively improves your gaming experience

​Your lucky, when I've had to do this in the past I ended up having to pay postage too. Still worked out cheaper. No doubt they are betting most people won't bother because of the hassle.

Had the same thing last week for a £10 difference from one day to the next. Wouldn't budge, nor give me credit for the difference.

Sent it back with a load of pubes in the box*

*Some of this may not be true

480 has slightly better performance, but 1060 uses less power and is quieter.
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-RX-480-vs-GeForce-GTX-1060

:laughing:

this or a 980 for £200?

Running my rx-470 red devil on a 27" 1440 144hz monitor atm and seeing ave 70FPS in COD and Just Cause 3, therefore I cant see the need for the 480 unless you are looking at 4k real-estate

I have this card and a 1060 and this card out performs my 1060 consistently, the only problem with it is how noisy it is. AMD have really improved their drivers too, they finally have an automatic game setting program and a way to record game video like Nvidia. The difference is at 1440p though, I heard at 1080p the 1060 takes the win, but it's probably due to it's lack of Vram.

Currently same price at Overclockers and in stock too.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sapphire-radeon-rx-480-8192mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-379-sp.html#description

This isn't used though?

Oh me too, I'm just getting excited about decent upgrades to my card being available at this price point :smiley:

Yes that would make most sense. You would definately, get your money back if you sell it now. This rx 480 is the reference card, for a bit more refinement check overclockers because you can get an after market rx480 8GB card for another £20- £30

The only BS here is you and your fake chart!
Next time when you uploading plane benchmark chart, please include a link of sorce you got it from!
This is the real chart from guru3d -
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And here is a link of sorce - http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/resident_evil_7_pc_graphics_performance_benchmark_review,6.html

If you can read - they turnd one setting off to see an increase on cards with less than 8 Gb of Vram and rebenched. Mine is the original bench run.


That setting actually helps cards with 8Gb Vram or more achieve higher speeds as Guru3D write themselves. Therefore the graph that you posted is incorrect. It allows 4-6Gb cards run game better (due to turned down setting "shadowcache"), while reducing scores for 8Gb cards. Especially ruining RX480 score, which runs best with all features turned ON and not down.

I can read, can you!?
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It's not fake. It is the chart that was originally featured in the artical. Nvidia updated their drivers and "Shadow cache" turned off. It was then retested.

While testing with the latest drivers will represent results you will the artical get updated again when AMD supply optimized drivers?
At the end of the day results on games like this do not make for a good test senario as they are out of date almost instantly.

Does this work inside Mac Pro 5.1 running sierra? I'm considering replacing my Nvidia GTX680

Just readed about it in comment section. There was totaly 3 revisions of benchmarks with all over the place, but the last one is the most valid. And he also retested rx480 with shadow cache on and off, and performance diference is not far away from each other. Acordint to his statement fps in graphs is what you will get at this point in game!

i might have to buy a new monitor sometime... but like my 46" 1080p Samsung tv... hmmmm

Out of stock.
Also, same price at Overclockers... https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sapphire-radeon-rx-480-8192mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-379-sp.html?&campaign=affiliate/tag

Plus take into account pricing in different regions. In the UK The Rx480 is cheaper.

Still loving my Gigabyte 980Ti from amazon warehouse I snatched for £155! This is still a great deal, heated :laughing:

Just to let anyone know that's interested I ordered when I saw the deal and it will be delivered on Wednesday. So not too long a wait, enough time to finallly unpack the SSD I got months ago and have been too lazy to swap out of my PC :neutral_face:

Tell me about it, they stopped this practice around summer last year and I was gutted to find out. Don't return too many items though as they might ban your account! Anyway, great deal.

It seems to me that some of you are taking the **** out of retailers - if you bought the item at £200 and 10 days later Amazon put the price up to £220 and charged you the extra £20 I take it you'd be happy to pay the extra? Nah, didn't think so.

I can see the argument if you bought it and the next day it went down but 10 days later, where do you draw the line exactly?

Prices fluctuate, get over it and move on. Rant over.

I would choose the most efficient, quietest GPU for an ITX build. And that's ALWAYS Nvidia.

I have an ITX build in my living room, had Radeon, now junked it for a 1060 6GB, it was definitely the right move.

This is absolutely a BAD card for an ITX case.

Noisy - having this running all day in your living room would drive you mad.

Reference is slightly slower than the custom ones; due to lower clock speeds and they seem to struggle to hold the max clock; they throttle back either due to noise or lack of power from the six pin connector.

Personally would wait for a deal on a custom one; as the sapphire nitro 8gb has been £210 before.

I think you need to read up on the controversy and educate yourself...
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=30439735&postcount=74

Guru3D removed the original charts which had shader cache enabled. The AMD cards are much faster with it enabled.

Fallen away on the 1060? You must be so blinded by your affiliation that you can't see that the 1060 demolishes the 480.

Did you expect no one to look at the actual benchmarks?

At 1920x1080: 1060 beats the 480 in 22 out of 35 games.

And to try to explain the gains on AMD cards as "Driver Optimization" is ignoring the simple fact that AMD's launch Drivers were poor.

You also don't seem to be checking out what the article is actually trying to say.

Quote, from the article:

"The GTX 1060 is still the fastest of the three cards that we have tested using our maxed-out 35 game benchmark suite when you consider its overclocking ability."

Because we have yet to talk about the elephant in the room. The 1060 OCs well, the 480 does not.

nvidia fan boy *cough* *cough*

Is the RX490 still going to launch soon?

I get 50-60 fps on battlefield one using my gtx760, is it worth updating

Did you deliberately not quote the second paragraph of that exact post because it stood in the way of the point you were trying to prove?

You see, you skipped the part where I mentioned a 470 being a potentially good choice due to less power consumption and also mentioned a 1050TI LP as being a good choice also for ITX builds. But then that's completely ignoring the guys question where he's specific about wanting AMD, small details I know.

Whatever card he chooses despite the naysayers a blower is absolutely what you want for an ITX build - you're not OCing, you just want the air out of the case, you then use custom fan profiles in your driver or Afterburner to control the noise based on whatever temps you're happy running your card at.

The 1060 is behind in all the new games like Resident Evil 7, Doom, Titanfall 2...I can see a trend emerging. The 1060 is already running at 1900MHz in most cases with little headroom. The 480 can match it even with a 100MHz overclock.

Good deal that, very good.

I was actually hoping to pickup a 980ti when I was back in the market 6-8 months ago, I thought there would be some good sales after the 10XX were launched. I was wrong.

This is a great price for such a good card, I'm just waking for the msi version to be on a good deal though.

How about you read my post again clown shoe?

Here, let me help you...

There's little to pick between them. Either card could be faster depending on the titles you play

The driver thing isn't made up either, they've tested it, they were the results. The 480 has gained ground and the 1060 slid backwards, refute the findings with them, not me. In addition, it you look at the ReLive reviews where past/present was done many games benefitted 1-2fps based on the optimisation, argue it with the media, not me.

And while you're here, turn off your alerts for "AMD" you've no place.

Just read this up!
I'll repost what I stated earlier. There have been an unfortunate three revisions of the benchmarks with results all over the place. The last batch is the most valid. The Shadow Cache settings disabled offers the best game-play for the majority of cards hence it is the preferred and recommended setting, for 6GB and upwards shadow cache enabled can offer better results, use it at your own peril.

In-between revision 1 and 3 of the review a lot has happened, new drivers 5 minutes after I posted the article, totally weird anomalies but also an error on my side that boosted perf on the earlier tests. I think this was the cause of having interlaced modus activated (mistakenly) on some of the cards as I have been goofing around with that on day 1. Totally my bad, but I am not even 100% sure either that was issue as the game remains difficult to measure.

A mentioned several times now, I will retest the game in a few weeks when the drivers on both sides have mature and when the game has had a patch or two. The initial results up-to revision 3 have been far from ideal, but the rev3 results do match what you guys should get gameplay / FPS wise closest.

I have also retested an rx480 with both the shadow cache on and disabled. The perf differential is not far away from each other really. However on the opposite side, going to a 4GB card with shadow cache enabled brings in issues, stutters and game perf differences as shown in the FCAT results.

That said, the results as they stand ever since yesterday evening with rev3 stand and are sound.
Guru3d admin posted this!

Overclockers have the same offer and in stock.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sapphire-radeon-rx-480-8192mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-379-sp.html?utm_source=Overclockers+UK+Newsletter&utm_campaign=7bb5fded7d-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2017_01_27&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_c199b69777-7bb5fded7d-212652933

Totally agree with you but the fact is I can avail of the money back if I'm willing to go through the refund process.
My point is that by doing so amazon will end up putting my card up for sale in the warehouse at a price below £199 so will lose out there, then they will have to reimburse the postage to me for sending it back. Only for me to re-order again anyway.And then they have the postage cost of sending me the new card ?? Total and utter waste of time , money , cardboard , petrol , trees, the planet etc

1) You're continued personal attacks are not required.

2) The 480's launch drivers were terrible, making improvements on bad software isn't something to commend a company for. AMD are *still behind* the 1060 with these "driver optimizations".

3) You cherry pick results, suggesting TechPowerUp isn't worthwhile, but inject babeltechreviews as a credible source? I think I understand, if you've been frequently BBR for your AMD/NVIDIA news/reviews.

4) While you're at it, maybe stop acting like a child.

My 480 runs just fine in an SG13. Passive at idle.

The 480 might be hotter with higher power draw, but it isn't a particularly hot or power hungry card.

AMD.. cold

Useless comment.

Don't listen to this idiot.

Wait for vega imo. The 1060/480 aren't really enough power for 3440x1440 imo. Unless you are using it for less intensive games.

Nobody is dismissing Tech Power Up's data. It absolutely is correct. It's the conclusions you've drawn from it that are false. Their review isn't up-to-date. It's using drivers from October. Nobody has claimed that, on an old, out-dated driver, the 480 is faster.

Hardware Canucks also tested both cards recently, using up-to-date drivers. They drew the same conclusions as BabelTech. The 480 has made significant gains, is marginally faster in more than half of the games tested, and significantly faster under DX12 or Vulcan.

Yes, this probably does mean AMD's launch drivers were guff (kinda the mirror conclusion to that 'FineWine' crap people have come up with). But what relevance does that have to anyone today?

Learn to read before posting rubbish.

You still don't seem to be able to comprehend what I've written twice - the 1060/480 are engineered to be on par, and they are - go argue with the media about how they're all wrong, I've made myself clear twice and can't make it any clearer for you.

1. It's not "you're".
2. It's "your".
3. You're welcome.

​Amazon will not reimburse postage to you unless the card is faulty or wrong item sent. You have to pay the postage to return the card.

Awesome. I literally left that single grammar error in on purpose to see if you were the type of person that would be rude about mixing up you're and your. Perfect, 100%. I figured you would be so petty to pick it up and focus on it and you did, 3 times for a single instance. 3 times, that's impressive. You have so little confidence in your adult discussion abilities that you focus on grammar.

Now, for your grammar lesson.

1) You used the character '-' between "twice" and "the". This is a mistake, as it should be an em dash.

You can learn about the hyphen, en dash, and em dash at the following website: http://www.thepunctuationguide.com/hyphen.html

Please understand this lesson, as you used the hyphen instead of an em dash.

2) You used a comma before an 'and'. This is incorrect. Please see here for correct use of 'and' linkers.

http://www.wikihow.com/Use-English-Punctuation-Correctly

3) You are using run on sentences. These are poor for communication.

http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/runons.htm

4) I get it, you don't have a firm base to stand on, you love AMD, and you are so entrenched in your position that all you can do is be rude, childish, and angry. I hope you can get the help you need before you have a nervous breakdown.

The Hoff was dismissing TPU's data.

Even using BBR, 22 out of 35 games are faster on the 1060 (At 1080p).

The idea of 'significant gains' is completely subjective, most gains are less than 5%, and they still stay under the total FPS compared to the 1060.

As for DX12, there are 4 games for AMD and 2 games for NVIDIA. And all but 1 game is close (Hitman). I find it really hard to judge DX12 titles without a larger sample size. Especially since one of the 'wins' is AOTS, where AMD has sponsored the title and used it almost solely for benchmarking. The game isn't played. It's a dead game that is a tech demo for AMD.

But again, the elephant in the room. The 480 doesn't OC well. The 1060 does.

Whatever perceived gains we are talking about in drivers is completely, and utterly, lost by the fact the 1060 has tons of headroom for easy OC.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_1060_STRIX_OC/29.html

12.5% here.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_480_STRIX_OC/26.html

3% here.

What are you screaming for mate really? Both cards has their audience, price/performance values are on par for both. Pick your weapon of your likes/choice and go for it. i m not sure you are working for marketing dept or promoting vga cards?

Hardware Canucks review (most up to date one I know of):

BF1 - 1060
CoD: IW - 480
Deus Ex - 480
Doom - 480
Fallout 4 - Tie
GTA V - 1060
Hitman - 480
Overwatch - 1060
The Division - Tie
Titanfall 2 - 480
Warhammer: TW - 1060
The Witcher 3 - Tie

Not a lot in it really. That was at 1080p, DX11. Where there's a winner, it's by a significant margin either side. Where there was no significant difference, I chalked the benchmark up as a draw. Move on to DX12, Vulcan, or 1440p, and the numbers are skewed in favour of the 480 (but again, not by enough to rule a 1060 out).

The most surprising thing is how much the performance of both cards varies from game to game. For two cards that are so close on paper, the size of the performance gap in GTA V and Titanfall 2, for example, is quite shocking.

As for Overclocking, I'm pretty sure people are quite capable of making their own minds up about its relevance to them. I don't bother, and I know I'm far from alone. The Elephant in the room? A white one, maybe.

Aha - That's a fair point.

Waiting for Vega, can't believe my 3 year old 290x is still better than this

Useless comment.

Don't listen to this idiot.

I'm not sure how you interpreted any of my post as screaming. I am a GFX card enthusiast, that's all.

When I see someone attempt to market for AMD with BS discussion points, like "AMDs graphics drivers are getting better, therefore you should buy their cards!" I respond with why that's a poor point to use.

Giving NVIDIA a negative for having better drivers for their cards at a much earlier point in a game's life is a huge benefit to NVIDIA.

When someone says "AMD Drivers age better" that is frequently not the case. They are simply not optimized from the get go, while NVIDIA are much more active with releasing drivers around game launches.

When a review site, like BBR, spins a piece for AMD based on the exact same 'logic' I feel it is my duty to let people know that their conclusion is biased and subjective, and not based on facts, just conjecture.

​I went with the GTX 1060 as it generally outperformed the RX480, when did the tables turn?

WIth the new AMD drivers in December.
Still not much in it though.
If you look around the net, there are also some quite detailed studies showing that Nvidia drivers actually get worse with age.

RX 480 vs GTX 1060, head to head in Resident Evil 7 at every settings level from "Very Low" all the way to "Very High"

https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/software/resident_evil_7_biohazard_pc_performance_review/8

Not much in it to be honest, it really does boil down to individual preference/features/drivers..

I would switch to AMD because freesync. The nvidia gsync monitors are stupid expensive.

I understand your point, but it s pointless to argue about top end of results from a review site. At the end both are more than good enough for what they are worth. Pretty much same ratio on the price/performance... You are basing your points on one of the review sites as well, they are not gods, almost all review sites gets sponsored. At the end of the day, your money talks, buy what fits your needs...

You cry wolf at every single AMD thread, using the same 7 month old links from the same singular source and ignore everything but your own point of view.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/12/19/asus_rog_strix_rx_480_o8g_gaming_video_card_review/4
Not that anybody is even talking about OCing. 11% gain in BF1


Your view of AMD is about 3 years out of date, go check on the release cadence for releases since the 480 launched. The fact of the matter is the deal posted is of much better value than any 1060 on the market and it performs equally across the majority of games available, 1/2fps +/- is nothing to scream about from either side. Plus as I've said previously couple this with a freesync monitor and the price disparity becomes massive versus Nvidia.

Like for like, there's nothing between either card.

Nice job on the 2 hour grammar lesson you gave yourself after I posted. I'm very pleased I influenced you so heavily :smile::laughing::smile::laughing:

1) Cry wolf? 7 month old? I've looked at many points of reference, TPU is considered one of the most neutral sources.

2) 3% on one sight, 11% on another. That's OC'ing for you. It's variable. The fact that one review sight pulled in a 3% should raise alarm bells.

3) When you say "Equally across the majority of games" you are simply lying. Even your most biased review shows 22 out of 35 games favoring the 1060. But fine, you can lie all you want, pretend that "Majority" means something completely different than what reality is.

4) 2 hour grammar lesson? Don't kid yourself, that took 2 minutes. You want more?

4a) Your use of commas is atrocious.

4b) Your use of run on sentences is cringe worthy.

5) If you honestly, genuinely, think you 'influenced' me in anyway, I feel sorry for your lack of real world understanding.

6) 220 is the current cheapest NVIDIA card. But they have certainly been around the 200 mark for a 1060 6gb. If you are happy to wait a few weeks, you will undoubtedly see another 1060 around 200.

7) I think it's sad that you can't see past your own bias.

The truth is of course that some games favour the GTX 1060 and others favour the RX 480. Often, the difference is marginal enough that turning shadows from ultra to high allows one or the other to catch up. It's really rare that you see anything different and both offer similar experiences in most games.

I'd happily recommend either, but the reference RX 480 here isn't great. It gets hot and can't sustain maximum boost clock. Sapphire, Asus or MSI third party coolers are all pretty good.

You are an extremely rude person.

Stop being a childish, immature, troll.

That's all well and good but they are also £30 - £60 more :neutral_face: than this deal

I just know how to get the better of you Nate, that's all. You make it easy.

Here's my post which obviously caused upset (I'm very sorry for wounding you) so to ensure others can benefit from the information:

Sorry Nate, I can't take you seriously when making such fundamental spelling errors (sight/site), I'd rather you spend more time crafting your posts.

Per usual most of what you typed was irrelevant to this deal, but to pickup on a few points:
1. 1400mhz OC is not untypical of a 480 clock speed, TPU very obviously failed to benchmark correctly and did not apply voltage (like most 6 month old lazy reviews). Go research it, you'll learn something about voltage locks.

2. The only mention of OC in this whole thread is per usual, you, quoting inaccurate figures and tales of woe and per usual I'm just correcting you. If your then claiming "doesn't matter, it's a lottery" then why even post about OCing there are no guarantees of anything other than stock. Point of the matter, you're wrong.

3. The games benchmarked, how many of those were 1-2-3fps from one another, easily within the margin of error and importantly how many of those do you seriously think you could detect with your eye? None within that range.
I've already said (again go and research) that these were pre major update with ReLive, many experienced a 1-2fps bump.

Please don't feel too sorry for me, my lack of real world understanding has gotten me a new car, a million pound house, a wife and 2 children, oh and an AMD Fury.

You?

It's easy Nate.

​but how is this against say a evga superclocked 1060gtx ?

Oh, believe me, I know exactly what you are trying to do. You are a keyboard warrior who thinks whatever they type is amazing and some super clever post.

The only thing I find childish is your name calling, your assumption of status, your attempt at humble bragging.

What does anyone's job, house, wife, or child have to do with a Graphics Card?

You are either just a troll, or so arrogant that you don't actually realize what you say is utter rubbish.

You have a vested interest in this discussion, I don't know why, but you are *clearly* putting an extreme amount of effort in, see your multiple edits to all your posts, your direct messages to me talking shows that you looked me up on the internet (or at least my username).

You seem to have made this assumption in a direct message to me:


Starters, I'm not banned, but, the fact you did enough research to notice that I have a negative Karma score in /r/games (and then make the assumption that I was banned) shows *just how much you care about trying to bully me*.

Is that really your M.O.? Should I worry about you hunting down personal information next and trying to attack me there? Stop with the petty cyber bullying tactics already. I gave an opinion on a graphics card, you attempt to make it personal, repeatedly.

The reference radeon versus an EVGA SC is going to be 10-15% slower.

The AIB 480s will also catch up tot he EVGA, but for the most part, the EVGA SC will be a faster card.

The only issue, the EVGA SC is approaching the territory of the cheapest 1070s (330 quid on HUD recently).

It also comes down to what your heat and noise needs are.

Most of all, what is your budget?

Read through your posts Nate, you made it a personal irrelevant attack long before I did.

The mere mention of a grammar error seemed to send you on a 3 hour journey of self discovery. But I'm glad I at least gave you that knowledge to take away for next time, in addition to the information I've provided for your swayed views.

The next time you show up in an AMD I'll be offering the same educational experience if you don't offer a balanced view. Food for thought.

RE my research on you, I typed your name in to a search as it was on my paste and imagine my shock to stumble on your other rants - it's public information Nate, all in public view, there's no sleuthing.

You were banned from subreddit games in 2015 and appear on a list made available in 2015, but you knew that already. Probably for making more personal posts and calling in to question people's character.

If you start talking about someone in personal light Nate trying to catch aspersions they have every right to defend themselves adequately. My 'bragging' (if that's how you see it) was to answer your apparent worry for my lack of understanding of the real world, as you'll now understand I'm doing just fine thanks.

So, to clarify again. There's nothing between the cards, this is a cracking deal and that's that.

Until the next time.

This isn't a dig but an observation. You sound unwell- you should seak help but remember it is never too late. Just remember it is never too late to seak professional help.

Another troll that can't spell.

1) I was not banned from /r/games, I actually, legitimately do not know what you are talking about. I have never been "informed" of this, you are the first person who has even suggested it. If you have found something interesting, please, share it. But again, this goes to the level of sleuthing you had to do, to find something that not even myself knew about my Reddit account.

2) I've read through my posts, and no, no I did not 'make it personal' long before you. We have an audience Hoff, and they can help you to see the truth. You've made this up, at some point in time, you've turned our discussion into a vendetta. You don't even mask your personal attacks, and you spend paragraph after paragraph assaulting. And you end your post with a single line of "This deal is good" or what not to meekly justify your post.

3) Single mention of grammar? You went off on a single used "your" in place of "you're". You made a list and repeated it 3 times. Like, of all the things to correct someone over, grammar is one of the worst, on the internet. I don't proofread my posts, as I use it as a small group of people talking, as long as the words make sense, it's fine. Like, who cares if it's supposed to be its or it's.

4) Typing my username into google doesn't result in a Reddit comment till page 2. And that's about SandCastleBuilder. There's 80 results, I just checked them all. Only 1 return for reddit. Anyway, whatever this mystical information you have, I don't really care.

The relevance of your post to this deal is what?

Go read your posts, you'll see why you're viewed as acidic. Several people have commented already.

Nobody else is interested in chatter, so if you've anything more to say to me that isn't directly attributed to this deal, PM, I won't be a weasel and make your private post public.

Otherwise, the posts I made that you ignored twice/thrice covers things appropriately.

There's no difference that matters in the majority of titles, it's nip and tuck so pick the card for whatever game you play. If it's value, this is a good deal.

Pretty simple to digest.

FFS people - can you get a room or let this go? this is a deal website - so please talk about the deal or don't talk....

The card is actually OOS on Amazon at present (though they are still taking orders) - anyone point to a better price for an similar in-stock card?

Better cooler:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/powercolor-radeon-rx-480-red-dragon-8192mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-18d-pc.html

Same card as deal, same price but shipping would be extra unless you can collect:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sapphire-radeon-rx-480-8192mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-379-sp.html
(It's worth calling them, I've ordered stuff from there before and they've waived the shipping, mention Amazon price)

https://www.cclonline.com/product/211639/21260-00-20G/Graphics-Cards/Sapphire-Radeon-RX-480-8GB-D5-Graphics-Card-PCI-E-HDMI-DisplayPort/VGA3510/?siteID=8BacdVP0GFs-lDuvRgOKIAtHmhzOZ7W1hw
(£209 shipped, 1.1% Quidco, so £1.70 back.)

thank,
I've just received a superclocked evga gtx1060 from laptops direct & with the £20.00 discount from the "which" offer I've paid just over £230.00 so quite happy that they are still slightly better for the little extra i've paid.
Also the reason I've gone for Nvidia is some of us still use 3d vision.

I completely agree, It's really hard not to respond to someone being rude, I will try harder next time to ignore Hoff's troll baits.

This card, being a reference 480, is hard to recommend.

There's a 224 quid 1060 6gb: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-geforce-gtx-1060-gt-oc-single-fan-6144mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-33c-ms.html

Here's a 219 non reference power color: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/powercolor-radeon-rx-480-red-dragon-8192mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-18d-pc.html

Both have better coolers, and are budget brands (MSI budget version and power color is usually always budget).

At 260, you get https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-radeon-rx-480-gaming-x-8192mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-32j-ms.html

Which is a great model, but a bit spendy.

If you can get the deal Cookied got here: http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/evga-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-sc-06g-p4-6163-kr/version.asp

The EVGA SC for 230ish is a *great* purchase. Probably the best value-to-quality of all of these above.

Let it go Nate...

Good card but when you say 230ish of course, you actually mean £245 - so £45 / 22% more than the posted deal. Not a good recommendation.

Cookied *literally* posted above saying he got that card for 230, I guess you are so blinded by your need to belittle me that you ignored a perfectly legit post.


I mean, it's ok to be entirely wrong, you can admit it Hoff, try it.

https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/

Add it to basket:
Started your Which? trial?
Click here to enter your £20 discount code

234.

But alas, you are just trolling.

Calling someone a troll for being 100% correct?



And



£45 / 22% more expensive, perhaps you can show me? Otherwise an apology is fine for AGAIN getting personal.

234/200=17% more expensive. Stop messaging me harassing direct PMs already. Enough.

Why don't you make the MODS aware of my "harassing" PM's?

Let me help you with the numbers:

Card: £254.97
Shipping: £4.95
Total: £259.92

£259.92 - £15 Which trial: £244.92

Let's also add the £1 Which trial cost: £245.92

£46 is 23% of an increase over the £200 deal posted here.

Care to apologise for getting personal again?

​no it was £234.00 as i pre-ordered it when the price was lower & the discount was given on orders over £200. i was only asking to make sure i had got a good deal.

You got a good deal, and I would recommend anyone to take that deal as well. Hoff is just attempting to bait responses, completely obvious now.

EVGA is a great company, and the SC is a good card. Post that here if you see it again.

You got the numbers wrong Nate so rather than mislead potential buyers I thought I'd offer them the real cost, not the fantastical cost.

You can PM me your apology for the abuse you gave me if you like.

Would this be an upgrade from a EVGA GTX 760 2gb?

Yes.