People saying this will drop in price within 6 months should take some time and look at the price of the Wii U still LOL

HEAT for this deal on the nations most exciting console at the moment.

Probably people dropping pre orders

Because they like to create artificial high demand for their products and it's a sure fire way of maintaining interest and customer desire for a much longer period than if they simply dumped a lot of stock on the market on day one.

If there is only a small allocation of Switch or NES mini for the launch, they are guaranteed to sell out regardless of what the average consumer thinks of it as the die hard fans alone will eat up all the stock and be hungry for more. So it is guaranted to sell out simply because there are far fewer consoles than people who want one. It selling out doesn’t necessarily mean the console is a huge success in reality but it looks VERY good if it does. Nintendo know that selling out makes it look like the system was successful and they can see “gee see how amazing our console is its all sold out and we can’t ship them fast enough” Of course a company Nintendo’s size could easily make far more of the product, especially a simple product like the NES mini that is just a Nintendo approved emulator and a few roms in a little box but they choose not to, instead drip feeding a few units here and there so it will always sell out instantly and look like a massive success.

While overloading the market like Atari did in the early 80s is a bad practice too, Nintendo definitely take it to the other extreme. Personally, I think being stingy with the stock is a very bad practice and hurts the long-time Nintendo fans who will go to auction sites and third party sellers for the system often paying over twice rrp….

wouldn't mind actually getting one...but only when the price goes down. Its selling very well but the lack of games and costs for all the accessories, some that are vital simply doesn't cut it, regardless of the bundles. Yeah you'll save the odd £20/30 but then what...every other choice of game you buy will be near enough full price...and they aint messing with those either. I can wait, no rush..!!

The Wii U Premium was £299 at launch. They dropped the price of the Wii U Premium in August 2013 and discontinued the basic model.

yup I have looked up price history and only one bundle of wii u within first year was the one with luigi U and it wasn't cheaper than the 249 at launch,

I noticed that this morning. They are absolute idiots.

lol they are now selling this for £339.99 which is actually 1p dearer than buying items separately lol :stuck_out_tongue:

instead they have decided they will sell the console with 12 switch at £319.99 again 1p dearer

big profits lol :laughing:

Which makes it all the more frustrating when they treat their new console as another cash cow rather than as a genuine means of regaining popularity with disgruntled fans.

Check your vita for firmware, if you haven't updated in the last 2-3 months you should be on 3.60. If you are just google henkaku (I don't want to share the link because I'm worried that it might be considered piracy). The 'hack' is so easy it's unbelievable, you just go on their website with your vita and click 'install' and it's done. Then you need to find and install the emulators you want, but again a google should show you it all.

Agree with all you said there. Nintendo were once completely mainstream without question. From an amateur analytical view, the key changes to them moving into a non mainstream market were, their main competitors Atari/Sega stopped making consoles, and the new boys in town eventually came along (Sony/Microsoft), and created a different type of gaming that became the new mainstream. Nintendo ever since has been left with its own little market segment all to its own. Is a bit sad really as competition is healthy, and Nintendo sort of have it all its own way. Nobody is pushing them like what you get with XB/PS. I genuinely believe XB/PS sub mainstream industry is a better one for those reasons. But can hardly blame Nintendo that no one chooses to challenge them either...

Really interesting stuff. I have a original style Vita with the lovely OLED screen and always thought it would be the ideal way to play retro games. The problem is, i have always accepted updates when available so it's probably way past 3.60, is there a down grader or anything similar?

If you have any more information on this please post or PM if not suitable for the thread, would love to give it a try. :smiley:

From the mid 80s into the early 90s with the NES they totally absolutely dominated in Japan and the US, less so here because home computers were so huge. So yes, they have been an industry leader in the past, many say most of the rules of the current industry come from Nintendo's dominance in the 80s where they led with an iron fist, for a while there was no room for anyone else until Sega broke through it for a while and opened the gates to Sony and the Playstation...

Nintendo hasn't been the leader for a while granted, but they have the capacity and have shown they could lead the industry and may do so again, though I don't think the switch will achieve that, though I'm sure it will outperform Wii U comfortably...

Look into it a bit before you buy, you need a vita on firmware 3.60 (or lower and then you need to bring it up to that firmware). The hack is called Henkaku and there are various emulators for other systems, but the Retroarch ones are the ones I use. I know there are good emulators for: Master system, mega drive, Game boy advance, PSP, Amiga, PS1, Mame (because I use those). There is an N64 emulator in the works at the moment and talk of dreamcast emulation being possible. You can also play N64 emulator via the PSP emulator (seriously) and Mario 64 runs well, other games are not so good.

Yes I might even get hold of a VITA and look into this to. Not what it's design purpose was of course or how it was meant to be, but hey if that's the best use for it and it is a good fit. I revisted all the old arcade games some years ago on PC via MAME emulator and others. Games like Rastan, Iron Horse, Shinobi, Track & Field, Pacland, Toki, and well to many to name really. Was an unbelievable nostalgia trip and great fun. Even bashed the bits of some cheap PC control pads with my mate competing for world records in track & field.

I expect the same nostalgia trip & fun could be had with a VITA & Sega/Nintendo/Atari games of old.

Right I am no animation studio industry expert, but I do believe most will agree with me that you have selected 2 of the industry leaders there. Are you therefore suggesting Nintendo are the leader, or even a leader in the gaming industry?

Yeah, it's good. I've got all my old PSP games on there, my mega drive and snes games...and a few arcade classics too.

bash this console all you want but when I'm sat there playing it with my wife and kids I won't care that you xb1 and ps4 lot are sat there on your own playing with pretend people through a headset :smile:

Plus they can take it out with them and play co-op or against eache other........ what a stupid idea!!! how dare Nintendo :confused:

Much as I hate to fan the flames of argument, that is just grossly inaccurate. Nintendo are a massive company, they couldn't be any more non-niche if they tried, it's akin to saying Walt Disney or Pixar are little niche animation studios i.e. blatantly untrue.

Nintendo Switch does not exist in a bubble, no matter how much Nintendo and their fans may wish it did. It performs the function of home console and the function of handheld, therefore it will be compared to other home consoles and handhelds and trying to set out a little niche for Nintendo in your head, that they can dominate in, will not help it in anyway.

To illustrate how daft it is, I can put my favourite consoles into niches too, to make them look better. I REALLY like my PS4 Pro, it’s awesome and before anyone labels me a Sony fanboy, I have the Xbox One S and like that and yes even like my Wii U, so not Nintendo hater either.

Anyway, I could say Sony are such a great niche non-mainstream console manufacturer, they make the only 4K gaming capable games console there is and they are selling really well within the niche of people that want a 4K gaming console. Similarly, I could say little ole Microsoft are such a fab niche gaming console maker you know, they make that Xbox One S that is the only gaming console that can play 4K Bluray discs and plays Xbox One/360 games too, great for the niche crowd that want to play 4K blurays and games.

Silly no? Just the same way you are trying to carve Nintendo their own niche so they can be unchallenged…..

I hope your right. Then the recently distracted, mainstream console fanboys can go back to playing their generic shooters. The Nintendo players can get on with their thing. And we are all happy :smiley:

Also I don't believe Switch will be the only new Nintendo system in the next 5 years because its more a console than a handheld which is what they do well at. I expect a portable version of the Switch which has same ui and same everything but similar in size of the 3DS. Both will play the same games but different sizes. Probably will release next year.

Its just new console hype. Once the hype dies down it will be yesterdays news. All consoles are hyped like this. It means nothing.

The pre-sales figures that have been trickling out over the last few days suggest it has already been a massive success in the grand scheme of things. For a niche non mainstream console producer to sell so many early doors in a confined and specific market sector, I mean c'mon.

I do not think Sony support it too well either. They put abit of effort in for about a year and then have up because it was clear the system was not going to catch on.

And I agree that this system is going to be abit of a success. Certainly more successful than the Wii U. I just do not think being able to undock it and take it with you is a selling point for that many people. People generally do not care for that sort of thing. They don't want to carry a £280 device in their bag with two joy cons. The whole thing is just a hassle and I do not think people will choose using a switch over using their iPhone for games. It's really not a handheld console.

The biggest selling point for me is the fact it will get all of Nintendo's support for the majority of its shelf life. Nintendo have already ceased Wii U game production and will likely be doing the same for the 3ds within the next year. That leaves 3-4 years of every Nintendo game being on one device. That is a great selling point.

I'm a Vita owner - I don't think Sony supported it much at all in all honesty. Games trickled out and the exclusives that did appear were a mixed bag. And while we still see the odd game come out, 3rd party support was pretty lame on the whole. A few poor ports and some disgusting releases (I'm looking at you EA with FIFA...).

While Switch will have the Nintendo exclusives that Vita can't match, Nintendo still have their work cut out to get a stream of games released on Switch over the next 24 months or so. I still think it will do fine and wouldn't be surprised if it manages sales totals somewhere between close to the Gamecube. Not enough to be deemed a success but enough to make it all worthwhile.

why you talking about 3DS, its not in the same market, there will be bundles for Christmas, of course, but if you think they will be the same price as the console sells now I think you will be surprised.

they have quite a few billion dollars available to deal with that :smile:

The Vita is the best example we have and it failed miserably. It had nothing to do with Sony's support. It just didn't sell because people do not want those games on the go. Home console games on an expensive, large portable device is a very niche audience.

Alot of care goes into making handheld games. They are structured in a way that people can play in short bursts and feel they are getting somewhere in the game.

Nope just fed up of people regurgitating the same old arguments over and over again. It is starting to get incredibly boring.

Your attitudes a bit like Nintendo's. Just stick your fingers in your ears and if you can't hear the criticisms then they can't exist.

TLDR

See my earlier comment

Review farming? :/

whats up with the deal?
Console £280 + Zelda £50 currently = £330 ...

This was £10 cheaper if you want Zelda and the console together compared to buying separate. So whats wrong?

Does need expiring as the price has gone back up

good to see Game are still alive! they won't take the money and run if they go bust again will they?!

anywhere else to pre order the neon console that dont charge up front

1. We are talking about today, not way back when.... SEGA?
2. If you look at what you have quoted me on above you will see "non-mainstream". It is the favourite by default, if nothing else.

But in all truth it is really just a statement to say sod you to the Nintendo hating mainstream console fanboys that plague the Switch threads recently.

price now £339.99

I agree with the bit about them not going anywhere. Disagree about it being about cash reserves though. They simply have no competition. I don't see the mainstream console makers adapting to compete with Nintendo for what is a smaller niche market segment share. It is possible Sega might get back into consoles one day, but that is like Leicester winning the league odds to predict that. Possible and would be a bit of a fairytale for many.

The most realistic possibility of Nintendo having any competition would be a new boy appearing on the scene. There is room for one, I would welcome it too, it would do Nintendo good, a kick up the bum is always good. And I would have a choice for a change for family/kid-focused gaming.

Few years of losses and those substantial cash reserves can quickly turn into "They've only got x amount left", a console launch is an absolutely meteoric cost. The Nintendo Switch needs to reposition them, then Switch 2 then needs to be their dominate money maker. They'll need to spend significantly to address the balance.

Don't get me wrong, I love Nintendo. We also have a Wii U - but they need to start building on something.

UKHD needs to check for IP review farming when a crap deal like this gets 700+ votes. The RRP of the games are £60 ffs.

Just because some of the contributers to this thread own a PlayStation or Xbox doesn't make them Fanboys. We are all gamers at the end of the day and thus have an interest in any new console.

The criticisms levelled in this thread have even been raised by gaming hacks writing for Pro Nintendo websites.

The price of the console is high and for accessories is even worse. The console is primarily for home use so it's fair to compare it to the older PS4 and Xbone and the Switch seems vastly underpowered and over priced when you do so.

The portable abilities were the main interest for me but the poor battery life has dampened my enthusiasm and a lot of people complain it's heavy and uncomfortable to hold.

If the Switch had been a really good handheld with the ability to play as a home console it would have been of much more interest. It's clearly though a home console which lets you play it away from the big TV for 2 or 3 hours. When the Xbone and PS4 are cheaper, more powerful and have a huge library of great games to be had at low prices, Why would you pay so much for the Switch?!


Edited to add - The decision to put multiplayer behind a pay wall is another ridiculous move. Nintendo don't have the online infrastructure to warrant a charge plus it seems the free old games you will get will only be playable for a month. Also, making people use a mobile app to talk to their friends is another stupid move. Everything about the console screams rip off I'm afraid.

I'd kinda like to see this too. Although I do like the concept and portability of the Switch

Unless they have to recall all the units due to a battery issue, that would be quite a costly predicament! :wink:

Nintendo have a massive amount of cash reserves. They aren't going anywhere. :smiley:

Why do you seem to think that you're speaking for everyone/the majority? You may not want a home console experience on handheld, but that doesn't mean everyone feels.

The Vita has games that are supposed to be home console quality on a handheld. And if Sony gave a crap about it, it could have been a success. Handheld games have been designed to emulate the home experience, technology has only just caught up to make this possible.

jesus, most of the 'points' if you could call them that lord trollington are positives. Gimmicky wii motion controls? honestly.
i cant be bothered picking apart the rest of it and know i shouldn't feed you but couldn't resist having a word before ignoring you.

I've seen this comment pop up in a few Switch threads. just out of curiosity, how do you know it's the "nations favourite" anything?

In years gone by Europe/UK has always been Sega territory, after they fell I think for many the de facto system became the Playstation, Nintendo always had a bigger following in Japan and even the US than here, so not 100% convinced it is the nations favourite at all, but if you have anything to prove me wrong by all means....

I'm not sure why people are bashing Nintendo quite so hard, for me the switch is perhaps the most forward looking / progressive console of them all (and I own an Xbox One).

Still not seen details of the OS - I'm assuming due to the Nvidia chip it'll be Android based. Let's face it, Android TV while buggy as hell will take over eventually, it's just a matter of time. With that and the mobile eco system, it's not hard to see that something like the switch is going perfectly positioned for the future. Granted, it's going to be the Nintendo Switch 2 till that's fully realised - if Nintendo can survive that long and still invest heavily into the next one they're going to reap the benefits.

I'm not sure why people are bashing Nintendo quite so hard, for me the switch is perhaps the most forward looking / progressive console of them all (and I own an Xbox One).

Still not seen details of the OS - I'm assuming due to the Nvidia chip it'll be Android based. Let's face it, Android TV while buggy as hell will take over eventually, it's just a matter of time. With that and the mobile eco system, it's not hard to see that something like the switch is going perfectly positioned for the future.

Granted, it's going to be the Nintendo Switch 2 till that's fully realised - if Nintendo can survive that long and still invest heavily into the next one they're going to reap the benefits. A console where all your mobile apps game can possibility be added to your catalogue, with additional functionality of game pad. They've been trying for ages to turn mobile gaming it something more, Nintendo could be that spearhead.

The core reason people will always buy xbox and playstation is because of the online commmunity. Everybody has a friend who plays fifa or call of duty or gears of war . There will never be a mood change where millions switch consoles and start again. Even if fifa was superior on a nintendo console. It will be a sad day when mario, mario kart and zelda are on the xbox or ps

I have no idea why a new console that hasn't come out yet is being compared to an xbox that is basically a special edition of a console that came out in 2013. If the same people that bought the xbox one on release date then bought the s then they probably spent £700 i love xbox but the best game is gta v which is an xbox 360 game with bells on.

I'm a little concerned about the Mario release window. Nintendo simply can't miss the "holiday season". They have some history on letting deadlines slide too but from what I've read/heard - Odyssey is in quite an advanced state.

Well, he is like a junior hulk! I won't let him near my oldests 3DS! Besides, 2DS is incredibly cheap to be had too - it's just a nice all round first portable console for a youngster.

Nintendo's biggest franchises are anything but niche, however they are relying on precisely those games to shift hardware. Somewhere sat on a shelf at Nintendo HQ is their perfect console, a low cost Android-style box without all this guff. Knock em out at £99 and encourage people to buy a few extra controllers at £25 a pop. A highly curated indie marketplace would encourage third party development and generate additional revenue beyond Mario and Zelda. I'd buy one!

I'm tempted, very tempted.

You don't need a 2DS to avoid the 3D as (1) There is a physical 3D button on the console you can toggle on/off, (2) You set the password and control the 3D to be "enabled" or "disabled" via the systems parental settings. I honestly can't face another hinges debate but I will say they are very strong on the 3DS XL, and unless your kid is like a junior Hulk personality, it should be fine.

It'd be hilarious if Mario Odyssey doesn't make it before 2018. If that happens this may be one of the most underwhelming "launch windows" of all time.

Seriously, where are the games?

I was chatting to my mates about Switch yesterday. Both used to game as much as I did in our teens/20s and one is a father like me. It didn't take them long to become enthused - the mere mention of Mario Kart on the go had them interested. The reason I mention this all though is that neither of them thought £280 was overpriced for its feature set. Neither are Nintendo fan boys (like me!) but I think I may have persuaded both to get on the pre-order train...

This is a great price with Zelda though. I'm probably not far from it with Amazon's £10 off voucher anyway but good spot!

I'll buy when Mario Odyssey is out and a few deals are about towards the end of the year.

Spoke to Game and they say this is not available for launch day

I'll happily defend the 2DS! It's a cracking design for kids. Removing 3D is better for their eyes, the wedge shape is great for them to hold and the thing can take a pounding. I just couldn't trust my youngest with a hinge designed handheld - recipe for disaster!

Seriously don't feed the green eyed trolls and they will go away.

The thread is hot, if everyone shared their negative views then it would be ice cold.

Give it 12 months and I'm pretty sure they will be all be muted anyway.

It's still a car and performs the same function so a comparison with petrol/diesel cars is unavoidable.

I know what you're trying to say, believe me when I say I see the value, or more correctly the benefit, in portability provided with the Switch versus the trade off for spec/performance but I don't believe it translates in to a higher RRP.

There are so many situations where I would use the Switch over a PS4/XBONE but the traditional console gamer can't see, understand or comprehend this.

You won't convince me that the price for the console, accessories or software is in any way reasonable because it quite frankly isn't. They are price gouging their hard-core fan base IMO.

I love my Vita but you do realise uncharted is a rehash as well don't you.

How does this non-branded alternative analogy work for you then? You can buy a petrol car, or you can buy an electric car. Now you can actually buy a hybrid car.

If anyone wishes to argue the petrol car is not mainstream, please do, I will love to see that :smiley:

Likewise if you want to argue the hybrid car is not niche and its own smaller market segment - knock yourself out.

Despite this we are still people trying to compare the hybrid car to the petrol car, or describing it as a an electric car even. And that it is somehow a like for like comparison to compare these things competing in different market segments.

Switch also has the joycons which allow for local multiplayer on the go with a single console. For someone who moves around a lot, the gimmicks this time may prove to actually be very useful.

NES - Had a gun peripheral.
SNES - 4 fire buttons on controller?
2DS - 3DS gaming with no 3D option on old tech, and a horrendous non closeable unit.

Some of the gimmicks have been good though :smiley: I am still puzzled that no one bashes the 2DS though, that is fair game really and it is difficult if not impossible even for a Nintendo fan to defend it.

There's no point arguing with you and it's a very poor analogy. This is Nintendo's next home console, it simply has to compete in that segment.

Quality of experience with Nintendo is subjective, technically the games play at lower resolutions and lower framerates, Nintendo have very poor third party software support and have a poor track record in regards to their online multiplayer service(this doesn't look to be getting any better either). It could be argued that their first party games are second to none but they've been few and far between recently, when you buy in to Nintendo at their inflated prices are you really buying in to one of the 'finer things in life'?

Nintendo will milk the hardcore fans with these prices to shift their initial stock(2 million units), there will be a massive drop off in sales and they will be forced to cut prices if they want to compete. I will buy one when they hit a sensible price and their software prices stabilise.

The console may become a success if/when it replaces the 3DS and I think there is a huge market for this style of console in Japan. It won't bring back the gaming masses in the US or Europe and we won't see gamers abandoning Sony or Microsoft in favour of Nintendo anytime soon, the price will see to that.

Have you played Uncharted for the Vita? Or Gravity Rush? Brilliant games! I'm not a big fan of Nintendo systems anymore, same old games rehashed I just don't think they are that special anymore.... Does it really push the Vita much? Graphically its not that impressive is it!

It wouldn't be a Nintendo console without a rubbish gimmick;

N64 - Stupid controller layout.

GameCube - Designed to be a "portable" console with a carry handle on the back. Tiny rediculous discs.

Gameboy Micro - Smallest handheld ever that can fit on a keyring.

Wii - Gimmicky motion controls.

3DS - 3D gaming.

Wii U - Controller/Tablet/Second screen hybrid.

Switch - Controller/Tablet/Second screen hybrid v2. for 2017.


I'll buy one of these if they release Animal Crossing on it, because it's practically the only game there is that even makes sense taking it off a big screen to go play in bed for a short period of time or something and to ensure you never miss an event when away from home.

Yeah but we can buy a tin of beans at Aldi for 12p. Most like to go for something nicer like a Heinz tin for 50p or more.

Anyone know what the financial status with Game is at the moment? I thought they were close to bankruptcy again?

I'm sticking with Argos, buy now pay 6 months later.

How much >!!?!?!

Buy a Vita, still getting good games, uncharted will be better than vita too! Youd get the vita and a ton of games for this price!

Switch is weird, it's the single biggest generational leap for a handheld. And one of the smallest for a home console.

Flop

Long suffering Nintendo fan and even i think its too pricey. Thanks for posting though op as i've managed to collect so many new people to ignore that otherwise would have taken me ages.

Also, in first with cex will give you £25 trade in for this.

You do realise the novelty of it is the fact it can be taken from a dock/upscaling device into a handheld right.....

There's a lot of those I personally wouldn't bother with, but then I'm weird and can't stand Bayonetta and have never been bothered with Zelda games. I got 12 games for my WiiU and never found anything beyond that. Some of those 12 were worth the admission price alone, though.

It's primary market is the hybyid market though and there is no competition in that market. You must also consider it is niche non mainstream gaming. It is not looking to compete with mainstream gaming.

Your really comparing grocery shopping at ASDA or TESCO with grocery shopping at M&S. Two quite different qualities of product, reflected in two quite different price points. You have to pay for the finer things in life, that is just how it is.




It is a round-about sort of compliment really. Hatred and jealousy often go hand in hand. That is how I am seeing it all anyway.


It seems to be obligatory and mandatory for some. If you look at the precedent of the Wii U hatred from the bashers then we are stuck with it, I am afraid.

I love Nintendo but there's no way I'd buy anywhere near this price, not even close to tempting.

Ha! Changed it now.

Criticism=hate gotcha

All console manufactures get criticised, just that the Switch is getting more due to a terrible launch lineup, overpriced games, under powered hardware for 2017, looks like its just gonna be another wii u.

No, you get to keep it.

Yoshi Wooly world
Bayonetta 2
Donkey Kong: TF
Hyrule Warriors
Pikmin 3
Ninja Gaiden 3
The devil's third (Don't laugh)
Wind waker HD
Zelda Twilight hd
Tokyo mirage sessions
Shovel Knight
Fast racing neo
Paper Mario Colour Splash

13 actually. Mmm why did I say 7 lol

Can anyone tell me if this is still for day one? I think the console is brilliant and I wanted Zelda on launch anyway!

The big problem here is the willingness of developers to code for the platform though. I have a Pixel C with a X1 chip and both that and the power of Apple's new A9/10X chip in terms of GPU is very impressive. However I have yet to see console quality games coming out for either platform. Why? Both the control over pricing that Google/Apple/Nintendo/Nvidia have and that people aren't willing to pay £30-40 for what they see as a mobile platform (even if the hardware is better....hell my iPad Pro has better geekbench scores then some desktop chips and destroys them it in terms of GPU) I hope the switch leads the way and we see a change in development by 3rd parties (not just Nintendo) but I don't think so. Plus the market is now saturated with freemium games (including Nintendo!) so at the moment it isn't in the developers benefit financially to follow this route. Hell even looking at Nintendo just imagine how cool it would of been if they had released full Super Mario World (as a one off purchase) on Apple and Android instead of Super Mario Run (the hardware could run it without blinking) but they didn't. This says to me they think the same way about mobile/portable gaming yet think the switch (based on a mobile CPU/GPU) will be a success. I hope it is and we see these games (none Nintendo exclusives) make their way to Apple/Android but the hardware has been there for the last two years and we haven't really seen it happen. So my comment is valid because this isn't really either a home console (in terms of game development or power on basis of more of development) or a portable game platform (size, battery, price of games etc). Anyway...work to do...I HOPE this is a success but I don't see it unless the prices drop and development increases...of course I hope I am wrong as I love Nintendo!

This isn't hate for Nintendo at all, if anything it's just frustration with them and their pricing...

so much Nintendo hate wow.

U Wot, apparently everyone in this thread has inside knowledge on production costs, how much it should cost RRP and what the real price point is.

I didn't realise so many people on HUKD were investment bankers and tech moguls, which one of you guys is Peter Jones can I get your autograph?

Ridiculous post. Yes, it's a completely different market. It's why gaming laptops cost more than desktops, although I suppose yes, there are always idiots in those threads saying "hurr durr, just build a desktop", and they are missing the point in exactly the same way.

If you're just going to leave it in the dock 100% of the time, you're missing the point and you are not the target audience. This is a consolidation of both handheld and TV console in one device, and I think the price is pretty fair. Yes, the games and peripherals could do with costing less, but the console itself is fine.

Last thing I'll say on this thread. I don't hate this console. It is a nice idea and good to see something new. However, it is at least £100 overpriced and to ask people to pay silly prices for games they already own (either on a previous Nintendo console or another format) will see it fail long term even if it has short term success (which I doubt) £200 (the price the Nvidia shield or a One S costs) with older games at £15 and new ones at £30-40 and it would be a winner. It isn't a good enough home console or portable to win over users of other platforms at the quoted prices for hardware and software. I want it to succeed as love Nintendo since I bought my Gameboy with Tetris aged about 9 or 10, but this isn't going to be a winner at RRP.

Yep, I'm a PS4 owner and was looking forward to buying this, but the lineup/price/etc have soured my initial rosy outlook.

It is a home console/handheld hybrid and has to compete in both markets. Against other home consoles it represents very poor value for money.

Don't take me as a mindless Ninty basher, love this console and the games I've seen but I'm not being taken for a mug with the prices.

£280 for an Nvidia shield tablet and £60 per game is a joke.

Can i get 2 of these on headrest and kids can play 2 player co-op? Will it work off a cigarette lighter?

I'm done with Nintendo,good price tho

Yes i do know that. I however picked up a Xbox One S on launch day including FIFA 17 for £250. It has slightly better specs but also included a 4K Blu Ray player with HDR for at least £100 less then a standalone player. I also picked up the Halo collection for £5 and have game shared with my mates so only bought 1 game in 4 months. Maybe Nintendo could learn from the One S release? There is a reason even as a PS4 owner I bought it...it represents good value for money for the hardware and allows the playing of many backwards compatible titles for minimal expense or even free...

Great, you're back. This is a good deal considering the RRP, heat added. Let's not turn this into another Switch bashing thread. There are going to be some amazing games for this thing and I for one will be getting one to play them.

If the rest of you choose not to, your loss, but obviously entitled to do so.

Also remember they also expect you to pay for online multiplayer where literally all of the system's online functions (friends lists, multiplayer, matchmaking, lobbies etc) require a paid app. I only expect this system to do well in Japan but flop worse than Wii U everywhere else.

Okay so you do know the Xbox One and PS4 are 3 years older and launched at £349/£429 so obviously the price will come down even further with the Switch.

More of the former for this one. nintendo have publicly stated they are supplying and expect to sell 2m consoles by end of march. If there is more demand than that, there will be stock shortages. But the number has already been placed up front.

So the preorder is not guaranteed on release date?

Not the best piece of "journalism" you will ever read though is it? Entirely neglects to ignore key aspects like Nintendo not being mainstream, and playing in a different arena to what other console/gaming companies play in.

The not being mainstream is the key reason why Nintendo products are largely shunned by many Supermarkets, which is where mass sales opportunities present themselves from the physical browsing and impulse purchasing opportunities presented.

When your not getting in the Supermarkets, that has to impact how you manage production and stocking levels.

Yes, Nintendo do have a marketing and production strategy like any company, and I would agree they take a wide angled multi-perspective approach. But lets be fair and be clear it is not all just about drumming up interest, and deliberately disappointing people with limited stock.

This article tries to explain Nintendo's approach to stock. It's probably a combination of wanting to prevent stock sitting in warehouses (losing money), while also benefiting from the extra publicity of a hard to come by product...

​http://venturebeat.com/2015/02/20/new-3ds-xl-amiibos-sold-out/

What competition? There isn't any if you look at it from the perspective of what the hardware actually is and does, and also the "TYPE" and genre of gaming you get. The nearest thing to competition would be the obviously much less powerful, different purpose/older console that is the 3DS, and even then that is produced by the same company.

​Zelda is £49.99 almost everywhere. I have it ordered from Amazon.

This will fail. Weak, underpowered, overpriced. Arm cpu, you're looking at a large power difference between this and the xbone/ ps4. The fact that they put a screen on it and all those bits and pieces required to make it a handheld demonstrates that they had less resources to make the internal hardware great. The other consoles are just a box at the end of the day.

7 games in your WiiU backlog?! I didn't realise there were 7 games in the WiiU back catalogue!

That is not the only reason to be fair. Many of the supermarkets have shown reluctance to stock Nintendo products. The Wii U, Amiibo's and even the 3DS have not been sold in many stores for a long time. And often the supermarkets that do sell any of these, stock/choice is low and is really just a token gesture. I see it as reflective of Nintendo not producing mainstream gaming. You certainly get plenty XB/PS products in almost any supermarket.

That has to significantly impact Nintendo's productions numbers. They won't be too sure how the supermarkets are going to take to the Switch in the long run.

The entire specs have leaked and are available here and confirmed correct by developers:-
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-nintendo-switch-spec-analysis

In handheld mode the Switch and Wii-U both run Zelda at 720p30 with same graphical settings.

You are still getting better than Xbox 360/PS3 performance in a handheld which is a massive step up from the 3DS.

However if you compare the specs to PS4 and X1 they are significantly inferior:-
http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/nintendo-switch-vs-ps4-and-xbox-one

For me the Switch isn't a primary console, but it could be a great secondary device with unique games and the option to play handheld.

​have you seen the size of it?? with the power that's in it for portable use how big exactly do you think the battery going to be and last???

someone wants the moon on a stick!
3.5-6.5 hours is plenty I'd say plus with the USB type c have you heard of a power bank????

seriously if your playing a game for longer than this at a time you need to get a life anyway!!

I'd they are all about gameplay then you'd assume that some flag ship, system seller games would be released with it.

It's too expensive for what it is and has not enough games at launch, and will loose third party support sooner rather than later. In short, the same issues that blighted their last release.

​so you have the actual unreleased specs then??

Like the original Wii the spec isn't supposed to be massive as they aren't trying to outdo Sony and microsoft, why bother when they spend ridiculous amounts of money on power power power. Nintendo are all about gameplay and while the price is a not more than I'd hoped it still seems OK considering what you get.

I'm sure a lot of the haters would happily pay £600-700 for a phone or £200-£300 for a tablet just to play games??

and when the next gen Xbox and PlayStation come out and are £400+ this won't seem expensive at all!!

OK, I'll bite. Why on earth are you bringing the iPhone into a games consoles debate for?
Your argument about apple's 'poor' games selection doesn't stack up either. There are hundreds of decent handheld games available in apple's app store. Nintendo would be very happy with a tenth of the quantity available.

On a console tech level it is very behind with the times but where else can you play premium first party games on a handheld device like the switch, it is impressive from a form factor point of view , that's what everyone is forgetting and too busy comparing to the other consoles when we all should know by now that Nintendo always do their own thing

Genuinely baffles me that people consider this a hot deal.

Just because people are critical of the Switch, it doesn't mean they are XB1/PS4 'fanboys'. It also doesn't negate their criticisms (poor battery life, poor launch lineup, high launch price considering the tech, expensive peripherals, only one NES/SNES game rental per month that even has to be given back at the end of that month etc.).

Voted cold. Overpriced console, games and controllers. Sorry OP.

Because you've had so much experience playing one?

​it's not primarily a handheld. Nintendo have said that there true handheld is the 3ds. the switch is a console and a very poor battery life handheld second

​builds more hype even after launch?

​the Wii was relatively cheap

It's primarily a handheld. I mean the console part is just a docking station for charging, and TV output.
You just cant call that a console.

I know it was just for retro gaming, but the Neo Geo X was a similar thing, which failed massively.

Am I right in thinking this is not guaranteed day one delivery as stated in product description?

What's that I hear you say? Overpriced dated hardware? Handheld gimmick with poor game selection? Company that has lost its mind with pricing and doesn't care for its fan base?

Sorry wrong thread gentlemen I think the product you're looking for is here :

http://www.apple.com/uk/shop/buy-iphone/iphone-7#01

Cheers for the heads up, I wanted to use Very since I got a letter for £30 off my next Very order that would expire soon, but at the time they didn't have it up so ordered with Game :smiley: so now I can get it at the price I ideally wanted to pay :smiley:.

Gah, yet another Nintendo thread where PS4/Xbox one fanboys come out of the woodwork to slate the Switch!

Okay, we get it... You think it's rubbish, underpowered and Nintendo are not like they used to be. Same argument, different thread.

Some of us are actually looking forward to it!

Maybe we should start hijacking Xbox/PS4 posts and point out that THEY are drastically underpowered in comparison to a PC. Let's be honest you could probably get an £60 GPU that puts out more power than both of them. And before you mention the pro/Scorpio.. a £150 GPU would probably leave them choking in the dust.

Faux 4k and super low quality VR... No thanks.

What? We've already seen Zelda pop up at £40 after only a week since the conference. £59.99 is the RRP. What moron pays that? This isn't a deal.

What? It's not even kinda close. Similar to Wii U when mobile, and approximately 2.5x more power when in dock. Which would put it still miles away from XO and cities away from PS4. Both of which are 3 years old and pretty damn dated, given they were less than mid range when launched. Puts this thing in to perspective, given it's old shield tablet specs, massively downclocked.

Uhhh. Of course it's a handheld. It's a tablet with controllers stuck to it and a TV dock. It's exactly a handheld.

I suggest you look at what happened with the 3ds and Wii U in the first year. Both got a price cut and bundles within 8 months of launch.

But where are the handheld games? Where are the games designed specifically for a handheld? I see console games and multiplayer games that can't be played on the go. People are not interested in a huge, expensive portable device to play home console games on. It's a very niche audience.

That's before we get to the fact that this is a replacement for the Wii U and is being marketed as such in the west. You act surprised people are questioning it is a handheld device when Nintendo themselves are making a point to call it a home console.

Way too expensive vs the competition.

The hardware, games and local Multiplayer interests me greatly, far more so than the PS4 Pro or Scorpio, but it is way over priced.

Holding out for a price drop. This console needs to be £250 with a game to make any sense whatsoever.

When you can buy a Xbox or PS4 (which are both more powerful) bundled with a few AAA games for £200-250, the Switch looks incredibly poor value for money.

They did exactly the same at Xbox one launch too...

might have to look into this :smiley:

Cheers for the info i might dig it out and get some use out of it :smile:

As for the Nintendo switch i like Nintendo games and have pre-ordered the switch yet there's not a lot of launch titles apart from Zelda that appeal to me and then the idea of charging online when Nintendo's previous online side attempts have been very limiting which all makes me a little unsure on the system..
I'm going to just keep my preorder for now and see what new info comes out before its launch, I'll definitely get one at some point if i did cancel my launch preorder.

People comparing it to Xbox one and PS4 prices even if there similar powered there still older machines and are not portable or include a screen like the switch has do they :confused:

Do you have a link? Thanks

It works without needing to be put on it's home console dock. You can play the thing in your hands without needing anything else. Ergo, it is a handheld.

Besides it's no different you carrying around an iPad, except this will be able to play actually good games.

Just a quick heads up that very are now selling these. There's no "deal" as such to be had by buying from very but if you want to pay for it interest free over 12 months like me then it might be useful to know. :smiley:

I gave you heat because it is cheaper than everywhere else but as a Nintendo fan I am not buying this at launch. You have to be all kinds of crazy to spend that money on Zelda. Anything else half decent doesn't come out for months after, additional joy cons cost an extra £70 and if you want to play Splatoon online you will be paying for a service that we haven't been told how much it will cost.

I reeeeally want The Switch with all the games I can imagine and it is still tempting but those games aren't there so why buy it now? As hard as it is if you wait 6months games and bundles will be released and slow sales may urge Nintendo to be more reasonable.

Now vita is hacked it's a great console for homebrew and emulators...If you agree with that sort of thing.

People saying this will drop in price within 6 months should take some time and look at the price of the Wii U still LOL

Yes, that is what i meant, if the launch doesn't excite you then Nintendo haven't put sufficent effort in. Not saying there is anything wrong with you feeling underwhelmed, many feel the same way...

Where are the handheld games then? All I see is console games and a huge device that is a hassle to carry around.

Which is something that you could've done with the vita and ps4 several years ago.

Personally, the switch hardware intrigues me, but there's no way I'd pay the current asking price for it, or even half of that asking price. 32gb of internal storage would seem to be very limiting for game designers this generation.

As you play the cemu emulator it begins to store the game's shader cache and until it's fully stored it all the game will stutter. You can find websites to down load these shader caches now thought and avoid this issue altogether.

PS VR :laughing:

nothing is wrong they have one exciting game and that can be played on my Wii U, where's the thing that I haven't seen before that I'm dying to try?

I was excited until I saw their live presentation and that says it all

Anyone who buys the Wii U version of Breath of the Wild will be able to make a disk image of the game and then use the CEMU emulator on an high end PC to run it. Here's Xenoblade Chronicles X Emulated at 4K https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKAEd0d0C2o

I see all of the 'experts' on the console are in full force despite almost certainly never having played one.

You don't buy Nintendo for the power of the console, and it can be taken with you and played away from the dock, so while it's not marketed as one, it IS a handheld console.

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=2mp8yFa7a_Q

Really good video (though long) on the pros and cons of this console and Nintendo's current position. I personally like the idea but genuinely think it's too expensive despite what he says!

Uuugh why support this trash, Nintendo is night and day to what it used to be. Just a glorified wii, which was crap to start with. So sad :disappointed:

If you can't feel excited for it then that tells you that something is very wrong. A new console launch should be always be an exciting time. I would follow your gut. If you cant muster much excitement for the launch, then the cheapest (this is hukd) and most sensible option imho is to wait until there is some killer app games and as a bonus it will probably be cheaper, or at least have better bundle deals available...

jesus you just quoted yourself it's a Hybrid. it's not marketed as a handheld it's marketed as a home console

​PS4 is that new either, isnt it 3 years old already. if you want cutting edge get a PC.

I really don't understand people's complaints. It is a very good tablet with controllers supplied. It has a base that immediately converts gaming to your TV. It is a Nintendo and nvidia product that will undoubtedly have some amazing nintendo games. It is priced very close to what its comparable tablet costs. It is handheld and it's a home console. Yes at release very little is available the same with any new product. As proven by all new products you pay a premium for buying day 1. I pre ordered yesterday the neon version for £269.95 on Amazon with the £10 off voucher. I personally have no complaints on the price, my complaint is the cost of the controllers. As I have 3 wii u pro controllers which would be nice to be able to use.

Nintendo are the master of blue ocean dominance in the console market - however this will get cheaper and cheaper in between march and xmas as this doesn't have the accessibility of the wii. whether supply picks up is a different question but this will be so much more appealing after year 1 when the library is richer and we have a better idea of how everything will work in terms of online, battery life and backwards compatability. if you are buying in March and are excited, more power to you! zelda really looks like something special.

​make the £280 even better value then :wink:

Nintendo has had a shockingly bad business strategy which has failed of late and they need to win market share. They have never been a value offering and instead warrant a high cost for fancy design, which is not going to bring new blood into the fold to sustain the business. I'll be getting a switch after launch if the price falls, if not I'll put the cash aside for Project Scorpio.

And as someone who was at university at the very end of the 90s...yes...the world was a much better place for those who weren't the one percentile back then...tech was generally exciting then too when a new product meant new not one new feature!

Pro Controller for £59.95 at TGC if it helps.

Nintendo are relying on those that were kids 90s if they think they can charge these prices for this console!

​So, basically, you want to live in the 90s?

This console is basically what happens when you give a committee the chance to build a console... everything about it seems substandard. It does a lot of things, but none of them very well from what I can gauge.

Interested to see how it does, but think i'll give this console a miss. Shame as I was looking forward to it!

​because he wants to show the world what a real loser he is...

Anyone else come here just for the comments? I pre ordered but I'm now in two minds about it, mainly due to the stupid online thing and £65 pro controller! I mean £65!! What the actual eff!?!

There were never any credible rumors for £200.

It is totally a handheld console. It is actually a hybrid console only unlike the Wii U it is a total hybrid without compromise. So both a home console, and portable handheld.

But none the less, I am sure you will find someway to argue with that factual point :smiley:

​it appears to be similar in power to an Xbox and ps4 so why is it poor?

plus its not out yet so hardly an educated review

​well I cancelled my pre order of Mario kart and 1-2 switch from game and got them from amazon Instead and saved £20 with the cheaper price plus yesterdays voucher. I also got Zelda and it wasn't £60, think I paid £45 so isn't much of a deal.

£280 is an anticipated launch price but I'd rather wait this one out after buying wii u day one :confused:

​I am buying a 2nd hand Wii u just to play zelda as I am a big fan of the franchise and played most of them so I just cant ignore Breath of the Wild, its the most hyped I have been for a Zelda since OOT.
I just cant justify buying a switch on launch it looks like such a versatile piece of kit but when Mario and hopefully a Metroid comes out I will end up getting it, cant wait to play a sandbox Mario

The wii wasn't cheap? Yeah £179.99 at launch WITH a game. So expensive.

Will give a year see what games come for for it
Unless some decent 3rd party games get released I can't see this being any good
Skyrim is years old now and Nintendo won't bring out enough games to make it worthwhile

Depends what you're after, Mario Kart 8 is an insult at full price but there are a fair few gamesI'm very excited for. Splatoon 2 and Xenoblade 2 both look great. Fire Emblem Warriors will probably be good but seems like a clone of Hyrule Warriors with different characters - even the combos look the same as Link's (I'll probably still buy it... :smirk: ).
That said - the promise of a brand new Fire Emblem game in 2018 makes me VERY excited for Switch. It's going to be a while - probably 18 months or so - but it's exciting all the same!
Totally depends on what kind of games you're after playing. Just need every gamer on the planet to simultaneously make the same wish... ****Metroid Prime 4**** :confused:

Wii U v2. $witch will be an epic fail.

Too few games.
Too expensive, especially for peripherals, but also games, online and the console.

I say that as Nintendo fan who bought every console since the SNES on release. Not this time though.


I can play Zelda on my Wii U. The only game on $witch worth getting will then be the Mario one. Which will probably come out in 2018.

could someone try and get me excited for this console please? I've watched a few videos and while I'm sure Zelda will be a blast, this Switch screams glorified tablet with controller..for £280 (clicks fingers)

The trouble is, the this is essentially an Nvidia tablet (year and a half old) with detachable controllers. It's very old tech, it shouldn't be compared to the Xbox or Playstation (but Nintendo are using that, but failing to mention it's a couple of generations behind) and should be compared to mobiles or current tablets, it's very overpriced - very and nothing new, even the detachable controllers have been done many times.

You seem to not realise it is, well kind of. It isn't as portable as a DS as it is tablet sized and doesn't fold. It has very poor battery life - very poor. It is capable of connecting to a tv, like most mobiles, so nintendo are using this as a marketing tool. They seem to want to try and market it in a way so it seems they have no competition. It's a a handheld, which it fails miserably at.. they want to market it as a home console too, whihc it fares even worse at.

The difference here is much larger than the Wii - Xbox 360 (let alone PS3). Then you have the PS4 which destroys its and the soon to be Xbox Scorpio. Nintendo are in a very dangerous position. They a praying the contoller gimmick pays off as it did with the Wii, but I strongly feel they have misjudged the market. I suspect Nvidia (desperate to land a console deal and also off load X1 chips, while looking like they don't care) offered Nintendo a good deal. Nintendo were blinded by greed and have placed themselves uncomfortably.

Still, when they announce the preice cuts (which they will) just like the DS, it will sell a little (and no, the low pre-order numbers / restricted stock don't mean it's a big seller)

Is this 4K and HDR with free streaming from a higher power PC? Plus included remote and controller shield for £100 less? I do like the idea but it's just too expensive. Unlike the shield with cheap android games (nowhere near Nintendo quality). The shield's value proposition is much better long term. I'm sad as I was really excited until I saw the prices! Especially the game prices!

From people cancelling when they realize they're effectively paying well over £300 for a single decent game.

​the dock is $90,far above £20..

adjusted for inflation, Nintendo Switch is the 4th cheapest priced console at launch, in the history of game console launches! you're getting a home console AND a handheld with a screen with Nintendo 1st party games for less than £100 more than an nvidia shield, which it's based on. I've preordered two.... Can't wait to get my hands on it.

​Thats pretty much what I'm waiting for. If it launches with a substantial VC library and you can transfer purchese from wiiu and 3ds I'll probably grab one earlier. Will make up for the lacking amount of titles anounced for the first year and just being able to grab the thing for some 2 player snes/n64 games would be great.
I do think the price of the prepherials are whats really making me think twice though.

​its is priced same as shield at around £200, juat need add on price of controller £60 and £20 for the dock.

but if they sold it without those people only moan they need but extra controller at launch

​Because that way they dont have to drop prices and there is constant demand.

The harder it is to get, the more people want it.

Think new tech always has a premium on release. I don't think comparison with refined version of a console that's been in production for years is that relevant. Also- nobody knows if it's good value or not yet, maybe it's an amazing unique device that blows people away, maybe it's a gimmick with no software and a laggy Zelda game. The real rip off are the peripherals imo, the console itself isn't extraordinarily over-priced for what it potentially is. Ps Vita was similarly priced at launch...

Be very careful ordering from Game online if you want it day one - they do not guarantee day one delivery on anything anymore (their site is cleverly worded). I've given up ordering online from them now after so many games just didn't turn up on day one.

In store they are fine (but generally expensive), but online..I wouldn't buy from these jokers ever again.

Cancelled my preorder of the console with the game separate for this. Heat added :smiley:

I was interested when it was rumoured to be at the price point it should be (about £200). I accepted the flaws for Nintendo titles and unlike the haters on other deals I am a fan of Nintendo and always have been! This should be priced at the same price as the Nvidia Shield it shares a chipset with or similar. At this price it is just mental. Also the Wii wasn't cheap but it did offer something unique and we loved it as a family event...the Wii U was just a flop!

Avoid GAME!
Anything goes wrong with your product they will BS you nothing is wrong lol

well don't count on getting this bundle from game if you have already pre ordered them separately and paid deposits for both prior to this.

Well according to game, to get this bundle ( which isn't even a real bundle) you would have to cancel your original order as apparently they are sent this bundle from Nintendo .

I said thats funny as there are no console bundles that nintendo have mentioned so really your making this one up yourself.

he then replied "why would be do that this is Nintendos doing and anyway we have sold out of our switches "

This company really is a joke totally, useless and have no clue how to deal with customers or run a business.

Not exactly a huge savings, but voted heat as it's about time there was at least some kind of offer!

i got one on pre order with amazon,but ifs 50/50 if cancel it a week before,im waiting for nintendo to tell us details of the virtual console on the switch,if they do it right it could make the switch a must have console.but i see nintendo messin it up as always,they could have such a awesome virtual console with so many wii/wii u/3ds/nes/snes/gameboy/n64/gamecube/games on it instead of the 2 or 1 they drip feed on wii u and 3ds at the mo

I expect that to be true (to an extent), doesn't stop me wanting one now. If nobody buys now. People won't be encouraged to make games for it. So if you're one of the ones waiting until after the inevitable eventual price cut - you're welcome :smiley:

lets everyone rush out and spend 319 on this only to find out they will be down to about 249 in about 6 months after release.

Heat added and pre-ordered. Looking forward to it

Seeing it at that bundled price really puts it into perspective. This thing is far too expensive for me

​To keep demand and prices high. It's why wii games hold their value far better than xbox/ps4 games by comparison.

If you like Nintendo games then of course

HEAT for this deal on the nations most exciting console at the moment.

It does look good but there are better systems out already is it worth the gamble !!!

All reasonable estimates by respected analysts for the pricing were between $250 to $300. $200 was always just a rumor from (incredibly hopeful) people and never a realistic price for the tech and build quality. Say what you want about the software and design decisions, but the hardware is solidly made. There's no 'cheap' feel about it.

While there are a lot of valid complaints about Nintendo's supply practices, in this case, they've explicitly stated they are looking to sell 2 million worldwide by month end. Those aren't huge numbers and people shouldn't expect huge amounts of stock available at launch.

Great price deal but nintendo have go their pricing structure wrong on this one, I'd say £100 rrp over priced.

I have one preordered in store for the midnight launch. Hoping they do some kind of bundle on the night, even if it's only a few quid off. After getting 1-2 switch with it since I have the Limited edition Zelda ordered elsewhere.

It's not at it's core a handheld console though really. The battery life is 2.5 hours on high performing games which suggests this is just an additional feature.

I have an Xbox one and PS4 but the first party titles have nothing on Nintendo imho. If Zelda on its own was literally the only launch title it would be enough to keep you going for a long time

Although there is this :- By simply lifting the Nintendo Switch console from the dock, it will instantly transition to handheld mode

​if it marketed as a console the price is even harder to swallow for the specs that is but its about software from Nintendo and thier lacking on release for that best to wait for some decent games and better deals £280+ your better with xbox or ps4

lol exactly

That's Game for you I guess. Still a good deal mind as there is a saving against buying elsewhere. :smiley:

Typical game
Won't let people buy console on own as "sold out" but force to buy bundles.
Their behaviour was a disgrace on the psvr, charging £480 with bundles naff games.

Not voted either way - this isnt a bad price

Ive pre ordered neo one from game and zelda from amazon yesterday using code plus i have prime so got another £2 off so mine woorked out cheaper.

​thats strange. didnt say that on mine just when double checking not long ago. maybe they are fluctuating stock and cancellations

Because they like to create artificial high demand for their products and it's a sure fire way of maintaining interest and customer desire for a much longer period than if they simply dumped a lot of stock on the market on day one.

If there is only a small allocation of Switch or NES mini for the launch, they are guaranteed to sell out regardless of what the average consumer thinks of it as the die hard fans alone will eat up all the stock and be hungry for more. So it is guaranted to sell out simply because there are far fewer consoles than people who want one. It selling out doesn’t necessarily mean the console is a huge success in reality but it looks VERY good if it does. Nintendo know that selling out makes it look like the system was successful and they can see “gee see how amazing our console is its all sold out and we can’t ship them fast enough” Of course a company Nintendo’s size could easily make far more of the product, especially a simple product like the NES mini that is just a Nintendo approved emulator and a few roms in a little box but they choose not to, instead drip feeding a few units here and there so it will always sell out instantly and look like a massive success.

While overloading the market like Atari did in the early 80s is a bad practice too, Nintendo definitely take it to the other extreme. Personally, I think being stingy with the stock is a very bad practice and hurts the long-time Nintendo fans who will go to auction sites and third party sellers for the system often paying over twice rrp….

Incorrect link but my point still stands:


No,

https://www.game.co.uk/en/nintendo-switch-grey-1712275

​then why are you nothing to post on something your not interested in buying?

Bahahaha this console will flop

Big Nintendo fan here but this console is far too overpriced for what it is. £120 more then an Xbox one S? I know it's a different market but I think handhelds have had their day as people expect console like quality. The market I would have gone for is playing last gen or 2 gens behind titles BUT without the stupid prices. Either a £30-40 a year subscription model or like £5 per game. Same issue I had with the vita. I'd be happy playing PS One titles at that price but not at £15-20 like some of them will be for this console.

I know exactly what it is...it is a poor console and handheld....

I originally pre ordered then realised I've around 7 games in my Wii U backlog and more than that in my 3DS one so cancelled. I'll definitely get one when Mario Odyssey arrives. Seems weird. Never missed a Nintendo device at launch, but the switch hasn't enough compelling games day one :disappointed:

1.1% quidco cash back as well

Thanks!

This or keep my base pre order for a little more? Which would be better as I don't usually pre order anything?

The grey description on the full site says this
"At this time we have not received official confirmation of stock allocation, nor of the availability of stand-alone consoles versus console bundles. Until we have our allocation confirmed by Nintendo we cannot guarantee that every order will be fulfilled for launch, nor whether we will be able to offer you a stand-alone console or bundle. We will contact you in the event that you need to choose whether you wish to receive a bundled console."

I wouldn't be too confident about it being launch stock to be honest.

And before people say I'm wrong look at the NES classic...nailed it! Roll of SNES and N64 classics...I cracked out my N64 and gamecube the other day (although it was great could play gamecube on Wii) meantime...time to get retro pi installed I think...

what are you on about? i did not post a deal or even say the red/are available :/

my deal is for the grey:
http://www.game.co.uk/en/nintendo-switch-grey-with-the-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-1798373

Last time I added up £279.99 + £59.99 that came to £339.98 so that's a saving of £20 not sure where the LiamSmith78 few posts above went to school.

Gotcha, why do Nintendo continually short stock, looking at you Mini NES and various Amiibo's.

got £60 worth of rewardspoints.....hmm tempting

No,
http://www.game.co.uk/en/nintendo-switch-neon-red-neon-blue-with-the-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-1798380

Any red and blue with zelda

Considering it has been sold out for a while where did Game magic this stock from?

It's a step in the right direction but if you preordered elsewhere then you could buy the two seperately for the same price.

Voting hot. Pretty much RRP but stock seems scarce for day one. :smiley: