I really don't understand peoples logic when it comes to things being more expensive than others - it is probably one of the most retarded pieces of crap I ever read on the internet these days - i'll be sure to take my 40 inch tv and ps4 on the train with me next time I want to play a game on there >_>

And they let people vote in a referendum.

Good luck with that. The Wii U has rarely been reduced during its entire life-cycle so to think they're possibly going to knock £80 off before it's even been released to suit your budget is ridiculous.

Maybe it's just not the system for you. I mean, it does make sense for Nintendo to combine their console and handheld divisions, because they sold 70m+ between 3DS and Wii U...

Because I remember the SNES.... Mode 7, 3Dchip..... etc. At the time, it was the bees knees outside of neo geo where each GAME literally cost £299+.... The N64 was a step in the right direction again as it was born out of innovation through partnership with silicon graphics and delivered via the project "project reality". At the time, project reality was seriously cutting edge. Even the gamecube, a console that sold far far far less that PS2, was at the time IMHO a superior machine due to the PowerVR architecture and the way it handled texture mapping and anti aliasing..... In fact, Star Wars was a revelation on the GC.

Then apathy set in and Nintendo started to get lazy with their development approach. They decided to go off in mental directions to "find new ways to play"..... it didn't matter that NO ONE cared about these new directions they were going off in..... VR Boy - disaster, Wii - home to the most shovelware on the planet with very few good titles, Wii U - garbage, 2DS - lol....... and now this impending disaster.

I remember the days of Nintendo at its best - which is why im frustrated to see Nintendo at its worst for close to 10 years now. its SEGA all over again.

I see Luigi in disguise! Front row, centre.

Why are you so angry? :confused: It's only a games console after all. :laughing:

Spot on, building awareness that the Switch is Wii U MK2 :smirk:

Not mocking you, but you did say Switch is exactly like an iPad Mini, which it's not.

And obviously money talks but until it's released, threads like this only help build awareness of the system. 8 pages and still going strong!

Nintendo are on a downward trend - which isn't helped by their ABSOLUTE shambles approach to handling youtube content creators and treating them like copyright thiefs every single time they try to review, share, or speculate on Nintendo related news..... Its no wonder they aren't very healthy right now. Its a widely known secret that Switch is effectively Nintendos last throw of the dice with respect to console launches..... the problem is, Nintendo succeeded back when gaming was a kids sport - its now an actual sport that adults play and big business, and Nintendo just don't know how to react to this market anymore especially with massive multinationals (Sony & Microsoft) just chomping up the market for themselves..... These guys aren't SEGA who failed due to the exact same reasons - failure to anticipate shifts in the desired technology base (32X/MEGA-CD followed by Saturn (which got KA-RUSHED by psone due to it being absolutely terrible to programme for due to the architecture being banged together at the last moment when they realised people wanted 3D games, not 2D) etc etc etc.....

One of THE worst decisions Nintendo has made recently is with Zelda Breath of the Wild. They are launching it on two platforms simultaneously..... If youre a die hard Zelda fan that owns a Wii U, why would you bother buying a Switch if you can play Zelda on your Wii U..... plus theres no pack in game, not even a demo (1,2, switch) with the switch meaning the 279 price point is actually more likely to be 320 once a game is added on.... that's 120 more expensive than an Xbox One and PS4 Pro territory...... I mean really!? are they serious? I can buy a 3DS and an XBOX One for the same price basically (with free games too!)

They are also releasing this thing in 2017.... the same year Project Scorpio comes out.... which is anticipated to cost around the 350 mark (including a bundled in game).... what do you think kids are going to ask their parents for...

New Xbox Scorpio with Fifa/CoD/Battlefield/Need for Speed/Assassins Creed/whatever that also has UHD bluray support, Native 4K output and 6+ teraflops of compute power

or a switch with Mario that they can take over to their friends house...... and leave on the table whilst they both play the new Call of Duty online or Fifa..... Not a single Triple A title in year one (except Zelda and Mario), and almost no 3rd party support that's meaningful (exactly like Wii U all over again).

Super Nintendo Entertainment System Nintendo 1990 49.10 million
Nintendo 64 Nintendo 1996 32.93 million
GameCube Nintendo 2001 21.74 million
Wii Nintendo 2006 101.63 million
Wii U current generation consoles Nintendo 2012 13.36 million

With respect to my original assertion to which you mocked....... you mean this one......? (next time quote it correctly!)

.... what? It's a tegra architecture tablet. Like xiaomI mii pad Google pixel c or shield. Tegra enabled devices get access to things like tegra zone. You can connect controllers to these tablets using Bluetooth. This is not a new concept. So it's exactly like an ipad mini.....or more accurately a Google pixel c or Nvidia shield

Come on you XB/PS mainstream console filth, lets be having ya!



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You've clearly spent a lot of time on your response, but unfortunately you missed my point, which was specifically about the assertion that it's the same as an iPad Mini.

On your general point, there's plenty of tech out there that covers individual aspects of the Switch, but I feel that the consumer appeal will be having all those features in one unit - one that also carries the Nintendo library.

At the very least, it's getting people talking, which is exactly what Nintendo will want.

Most gaming journos are kinda thinking the same thing as I, not that this matters.... go here http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/139770-is-nintendo-switch-just-an-nvidia-shield-in-disguise

"The existing Shield K1 Tablet has, as the name suggests, a Tegra K1 processor inside, but Nvidia is heavily tipped to be announcing a replacement at CES 2017 in January, with the Tegra X1 running the show. So the Nintendo Switch might not be as unique as otherwise suggested." Whilst this didn't happen, you can expect Nvidia to refresh the shield tablet at some point soon


or here https://techcrunch.com/2016/10/21/nintendo-switch-is-the-spiritual-successor-to-the-nvidia-shield/


or https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#safe=strict&q=nvidia+shield+vs+nintendo+switch

It's a dedicated, cartridge-based games console/handheld hybrid with two dedicated bespoke controllers, containing HD Rumble, motion control, IR and NFC tech; standard USB C connection; expansion via SD up to 2tb; support of all Nintendo first party dev teams, and third party partners; online multiplayer support (lobbying, servers etc); native pro controller support (with gyro and NFC); amiibo compatibility; built-in kickstand; Virtual Console; remote app-based parental controls; and the RRP is £100 lower. But other than that it's pretty much an iPad Mini I suppose.

its going to come with a usb type c to plug adapter but its going to be in european so your going to have to buy a usb type c uk plug connector plus its coming like 4 days later so is it really worth it

My Amazon.co.uk preorder says March 4th delivery :/ ..is it cos I'm not a prime member? Maybe preordering elsewhere will get me it on release day?

..... what? It's a tegra architecture tablet. Like xiaomI mii pad Google pixel camera or shield. Tegra enabled devices get access to things like tegra zone. You can connect controllers to these tablets using Bluetooth. This is not a new concept. So it's exactly like an ipad mini..... or more accurately a Google pixel camera or Nvidia shield

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Awesome! Roll on March 3rd

It does indeed. You either plug it into the dock, or the console when it's handheld.

Great news! I wonder if it will come with a charging cable

Got a 32GB black one boxed on eBay for £95 + £10 delivery. Had to pull the plug!

It's the Mario/Luigi U bundle but doesn't come with the game. Can get one of those cheap now!

Just went to my local Smyths and got the Zelda Twilight Princess HD Special Edition for 29.99.

So many steals

There's a connector on the console itself so you can charge when it's off the dock.

It could in theory run the same GTA V5 as ps3 and 360. They are at a similar performance level. While the Switch is only 150 gflops it actually has more advanced architecture and tile based rendering which would probably punch it up to the 250 gflops approx of those models and cpu performance is about the same. More memory on switch too. It's really a commercial reason why it wouldn't get it.

Lets face it GTA V5 would be very impressive for a portable and the Switch is capable of it. I don't think Switch will get mass acceptance at current pricing and therefore such support won't happen until it consistently sells in large numbers.

Quick question. Does the Switch have a USB C connector on the bottom? I heard the only way to charge is with the dock so I'm a bit confused.. I want to buy a regular usb to usb type c cable so I can occasionally leave it plugged in while playing at home

Yes, they make great quality accessories. I think I enjoy buying accessories as much as games!

Decided to cancel the .fr order and just keep my day one order. I'm looking forward to it.

GTA 5 was a ps3 game, so your reasoning is a bit off. The online components don't need the extra power, though I appreciate they look better on ps4/xbone.

I wonder if Lego City Undercover will borrow from this and not just be a shiny port of the WiiU launch title..

On the subject of gimmicks etc from Nintendo, and power and graphics and resolution, it all makes me a bit sad.

Too many people here seem to have forgotten the main point in playing video games - to have fun - and the thing we know about Nintendo is that they always make fun games!

I have to admit that i am disappointed that we likely won't be seeing games like RDR2 or GTA 5 on the Switch, that could have been avoided if it were just scraping Xbox One level of performance.. Those and other multi plats would have helped sell the console a lot more IMO, having those types of games on the go would be a big selling point on top of first party support.

I do worry about the online subscription fees, how many online titles will Nintendo have for the Switch to make people want to pay for multiplayer? I still see no reason why a subscription is even needed for any of the consoles, it just comes across as another way to take more money from players, it has always been free on PC except for certain MMO's etc, which is really the way it should be.

​ah yes you're right

We get it, you want another black slab with a bog standard controller under your TV. At the end of the day this is a deals site and the OP found a legit deal, regardless of your feelings about the product.

Yeah I like all the Hori stuff to, deffo a very good brand. Even their tiny 3DS cartridge cases (for 24 carts) are superb. £6.99 for a very small amount of plastic should feel like a rip-off, but the design and use of space was so clever.

32gb, seriously though Nintendo.Oh you are, never mind.About as excited as the head of EA

underpowered is underpowered..and games need power.that's a fact.
whether you want to call it innovation or gimmick, they could have made whatever kind of wacky "innovations" they wanted, but not like this.. forced and mandatory..they could have made it as optional accessories..the way VR or maybe Kinnect are..
and why sacrifice power?
the only result is alienating 3rd party developers and many gamers.and turning the whole thing into a gamble.

Super Mario Odyssey is slated for a Q4 release this year which should be fine because it's not as though a major competitor will be launching a new console at the same time. Oops, they are! That's when Xbox Scorpio is slated for launch. D'oh!

No matter, though. We've been assured by 'you know who' that Ninty are a niche little company who are in no way whatsoever in competition with the 'mainstream' so that's all right then. All those people who didn't buy a Wii U obviously didn't play games on another console or PC instead because... reasons! Ditto all those people who didn't bother with 3DS absolutely in no way played games on mobile instead.

I trust that you're finding the comments here to be as educational as I am! :stuck_out_tongue:

So you pretty much reiterated what I said about those consoles. Point is, Nintendo has never towed the line. They've always done their own thing and sometimes that becomes the mainstream standard and sometimes it doesn't. One man's gimmick is another's innovation. One man's underpowered console is another's trailblazing handheld.

the SNES was the direct competitor of Megadrive,it was designed to compete with Megadrive..it took longer to come to the market but that's not relevant.it was pretty much on par with Megadrive (more colours, slightly better graphics but slower CPU and arguably worse sound)..

N64 was more powerful than PS1 and Saturn (both CPU and graphic wise) ,it's flaw was use of cartridges with limited space instead of CDs..but that's a different story and has nothing to do with being "low spec"..

the Gamecube was more powerful than PS2 (both graphically and CPU wise) and slightly less powerful than the original Xbox..again the main flaw was use of mini DVDs with limited storage instead of standard DVDs that the other 2 used..it's not related to low specs..just poor design/engineering decision.

the point is neither of these systems were underpowered systems unlike what that guy said.

Nintendo was actually about specs and powerful hardware, go see their old ads on youtube they were all about praising "power" and "bits" and "graphics:..
it's just Wii and Wii U that they decided to use underpowered hardware+added gimmicks to sell, worked for them once, but failed miserably the second time..and it seems they have now just trying it one more time.

You're doing ever so well here Kirst, couldn't agree more about the strong sales figures at launch, then dropping right off and flatlining till the festive period and even then they will need it bundled with big hitters like Odyssey and/or the new Splatoon to move decent numbers.

Of course the NDL in here will once more cry we're spouting mainstream console fan hate against Ninty for suggesting this and if our prediction is wrong I'm sure they'll take great pleasure in reminding us of it :smirk:

Ironically enough though if that turns out to be the case they'll inadvertently be celebrating Nintendo's 'reincarnation' from poor ickle underdog niche back to big bad bully mainstream which I assume is a position they'll be most uncomfortable in having spent years citing their contempt for the evil mainstream being the very reason for why they're so devoted to the Nintendo cause :smile:

Well, the SNES came out quite a while after the similarly powered Megadrive, and the N64 and GameCube were behind the curve in terms of capacity. But in terms of raw power they were at least competing, I suppose.

Tut, tut, Tequila. You're letting the facts get in the way of a good fictional story. :stuck_out_tongue:

Wow, this thread keeps growing and growing. Pro or anti, people can't stop talking about this console. Nintendo must be loving the publicity!

a "big Nintendo fan" should at least know a little about Nintendo consoles not just Wii and Wii U before writing such incorrect comment ..NES,SNES,N64 and Gamecube were all powerful consoles and either on par or more powerful than their competitors..
your vision of Nintendo is just incorrect..it was only Wii & Wii U that matches your description..the other 4 consoles were all powerful hardware.

except it has some noticeable frame rate issues with Zelda..

What I have is a pair of eyes, common sense and a grasp of the English language. If you put as much effort into using your brain as you do back-sassing people you'd be able to work out what an electronic item is too :smiley:

"The controllers have been universally terrible since the super famicom"

You do realise that you have Nintendo to thank for the controllers you call standard today.

Have a look at the history of Nintendo consoles and controllers and all the innovations they introduced that made controllers what we know today.

So much fanboy pish, every time. Just buy it if you want it. Stop trying to make it fools' gold for everyone else.

:smirk:

Officially by Nintendo its not been reduced. But it was by retailers. Mine only cost £100 new

"Cheapset Pre-order yet"

Errr... no it's not hukd whatsapper...not by a long shot.

Haha! So true. They're rather predictable that way.

The bizarro aspect of this debate (gimme some of puddleuk's popcorn, btw!) is that both yourself and I are rooting for Ninty to succeed with Switch. Neither of us is in any way 'anti-Nintendo' because we want Ninty to do well. However, we're not blind to what's staring everybody in the face and pretty much every site and every debate I've seen that hasn't been blighted by the 'Nintendo Defence League' you've referred to has expressed very grave concerns over Switch.

It'll obviously be met with media reports of sales successes at launch because the hardcore fans all rush out to buy their fave console brand ASAP. The likes of Dreamcast and Xbox One did spectacularly well at launch, for example. In common with consoles such as those, expect to see Switch sales drop off a cliff soon after the launch window has passed to be soon followed by the usual drought of games and the big third-party publishers walking away from Nintendo yet again.

Sort it out Kirst, if as some deranged delusional individuals in certain quarters have claimed and the Switch turns out to be the best selling hardware of 2017 they were right.

Though of course if as the vast majority of people expect and it flops then these deranged delusional individuals in certain quarters will still have been right because being a Nintendo 'home' console it was only ever aimed at their niche market and not for the mainstream console XB/PS filth :smirk:

So you've admitted that Nintendo's failings are Nintendo's fault. Excellent.

It's meaningless to try shifting the blame for Nintendo's failing on to anything other than Nintendo itself.

Yet you were the one who seemed to think old consoles were relevant in this context because you stated so in your initial comment to which I replied. Make your mind up!

So you've just admitted that gaming history (which you felt to be important in this context) is only of relevance based on whether you personally were around to experience and thus remember it yourself. Okaaaaay...

Check out the grossly inflated SRP of the upcoming new Zelda game on Switch relative to the same game on Wii U!

This one looks quite nice (also £20 though)

http://www.game.co.uk/en/m/gioteck-nintendo-switch-premium-storage-case-1790153

If that's your level of understanding of what I've commented then I'm clearly wasting my time debating with you.

Nope. One moment they're pushing it as a mobile platform and then then next moment they're trying to push it as a proper home console that happens to be portable too. They can't seem to decide how to market Switch effectively. There's arguably as much confusion now about what the Switch is intended to be as there was following the shambolic marketing of Wii U.

It seems as though Nintendo lack the guts to admit they've now effectively pulled out of the home console market and are instead offering up a mobile-based 'next-gen' handheld console that happens to have TV-out port like other handhelds have had for several years.

Indeed. Like I said, the concept has merit but Nintendo's execution of it leaves much to be desired.

The usual fanboy sites excepted, Switch has plenty of people talking of how much of a disaster it may be. People don't necessarily do so because they're 'anti-Nintendo', though. Many people do so because they like Nintendo but have grave concerns for its future after having learned of how disappointing Switch appears to be.

Except it's not an "unknown quantity" because there's plenty of factual information available about the product whether that be (much of) its terribly weak hardware, range and obscene pricing of accessories, games, planned mandatory online gaming subscription fees, pricing, gimmicky motion controls AGAIN, worrying signs of third-party publishers having cold feet already, its best launch game also being available on Wii U, etc.

I don't remember anybody outside of the forever deluded fanboys having claimed Wii U would be a big success. Pretty much as soon as it was revealed the majority of people were doubting its chances of commercial success and they were of course proved to be correct.

You're right to say that nobody knows whether Switch will be commercially successful or not but pretty much all the signs are pointing toward it being another disaster on the scale of Wii U or perhaps even worse than that.

Look at the wider picture and you'll see that the success of the original Wii was a freakish blip where Nintendo were in the right place at the right time to capture the 'casual' market prior to the existence of the original iPhone which subsequently ignited mobile gaming. That one instance aside, every Nintendo home console has sold markedly fewer units than the preceeding one. NES was a huge success (in USA and Japan at least), SNES was a big success but nothing on the scale of NES, N64 sales were down massively on the SNES, GameCube continued the slide downward and Wii aside the Wii U continued the downward trend.

It looks to have a hard/stiff (I wish I could think of other descriptive words) exterior. It's official which is a plus.

I'm going to wait though as I would rather have a tempered glass screen protector and I think a Hori case may be a better option

http://www.base.com/buy/product/accessory-set-carrying-case-lcd-protection-sheet-nintendo-switch/dgc-asns.htm
Even cheaper £16.49 :smiley: Looks good. Is this a solid hard case though? I definitely will only consider a solid hard case, given the value of the Switch/Controllers.

If I remember rightly, the official one is £16.99 at base.

I'm holding out for a greater selection and have a look at them in store

Death to all those 'mischief making/non Nintendo playing/Nintendo hating/other mainstream console fans'

The Nintendo Defence League is coming after you and will never ever be defeated, glory to the Mushroom Kingdom!

Yeah probably the later ..anyway thanks for the links! The first one worries me because of the zip/scratch danger, the second isn't quite my style. The official one looks good but £20 is a bit steep

Controversial? Or plagued by mischief making/non Nintendo playing/Nintendo hating/other mainstream console fans? The people can decide which :smiley: Anyway, couple of deals for cases linked below.

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/nintendo-switch-hard-shell-carry-case-9-99-free-uk-delivery-sold-g-hub-amazon-marketplace-2606127

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/nintendo-switch-legend-zelda-breath-wild-carrying-case-15-99-argos-2605811

This is shaping up to be one controversial console! ..on a lighter (more useful) note, anyone know where to get a good decently priced case for the Switch?

Why does every Nintendo deal have to become a speculative debate on the fortunes of a company?
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Nobody here knows what it's going to be like. Nobody.

So much vitriol, every time. Just don't buy it if you don't want it. Stop trying to make it suck for everyone else.

Oh right so you know more about the product than the company making it. Okay.

not a big difference but its now 299 eur instead of 306 eur

The commonly accepted wisdom is that resolution requirement is a function of screen size and viewing distance.

Am genuinely surprised you have to buy one at all Buzz. I would have expected you would get sent a freebie with the purpose of you hopefully reviewing/promoting it on HUKD. Do you get freebies when new mainstream consoles are released and is just a case of Nintendo being a bit tight?

"So negative" - hyperbole, much? Clearly there's a mixed response but there's plenty of positive hype along with the usual whining that it's not another medium-spec gaming PC to go under people's tellies.

Nintendo are on the outside looking in

"So negative" - hyperbole, much? Clearly there's a mixed response but there's plenty of positive hype along with the usual whining that it's not another medium-spec gaming PC to go under people's tellies.

​stupid people LOL!

You would hate to see Sony and Microsoft ruling the industry, yet you criticise Nintendo for doing their own thing. The marketing hasn't been "mixed message"; it's just a new concept in mainstream console gaming. Like it or loathe it, Nintendo has people talking - as this very thread shows. Nothing about the Switch "spells disaster" because it is an unknown quantity. Just as some people wrote off the Wii before it was released, and just as some people assumed Wii U would be a home run thanks to the Wii's success, no one knows how the Switch will fare because it doesn't resemble anything else in the mainstream market right now.

"So negative" - hyperbole, much? Clearly there's a mixed response but there's plenty of positive hype along with the usual whining that it's not another medium-spec gaming PC to go under people's tellies.

Nope, gamers only know what they've been brought up with.

Again, nope. Putting words in my mouth. What I did say is accurate though.

Nope. We had a NES and had many fun hours in front of it as a family. I then moved onto a MegaDrive, N64, PSX, Xbox, etc. Not that it matters.

As I said, I was a child when my family owned a NES. I knew very little of money at age 5 and grew up with those prices. They charge similar prices for a thin piece of circular plastic even now. Back in those days I remember that a new computer game was a sacred thing that you'd play to death because they weren't cheap and money was tight, so you appreciated them more.

I'd agree that the concept of Switch is in theory rather compelling. Unfortunately Nintendo's execution of the concept,along with various other negative factors, is sorely lacking.

I don't know what portable apple hardware is running it but the A9X chipset is at 345 gflops where as the Switch is at about 150 gflops in portable mode. So yes the best Apple devices are considerably more powerful than switch as a mobile device.

http://kyokojap.myweb.hinet.net/gpu_gflops/

That's all very well and what you say isn't entirely without merit but the reality is that many, seemingly the majority, of gamers today want to be playing the big name AAA franchises from the likes of EA, Activision, etc. That'll be fine for the Nintendo hardcore but, let's be honest, they'd buy a box of Miyamoto's toenail clippings if presented in a nice shiny box with a Nintendo logo on it!

Joking aside, if all Nintendo now aims for is to satisfy their most loyal audience that seem to be dwindling in number then good luck to them.

I'm fond of Nintendo myself but pretty much everything about Switch spell disaster so far (ignore the pre-order sales numbers because that's just the hardcore fans) but I hope to be wrong on that because I'd hate to see only Sony and Microsoft ruling the console industry. However, regardless of Nintendo's mixed message marketing, some would argue that we're already there because Switch is really a handheld console meaning that Nintendo have already withdrawn from the home console market.

Excellent find! Ordered and heat added :smiley:

So you're claiming that Nintendo's failings are not the fault of Nintendo but are in fact the fault of gamers. Oh dear.

So you believe it'd be best if the likes of Amazon, GAME, et al gave their customers a history lesson of videogaming before selling those nasty consoles from the dastardly Sony and Microsoft. Oh dear.

Are you American? Only wondering because NES sold in extremely low numbers here in the UK. Home computers were what most people played games on during that era. The relative minority who did own a console in the UK mostly bought a Sega Master System and later a Sega Mega Drive prior to the late European arrival of the SNES.

The 'good old days' when console gaming ushered in the age of paying skyhigh prices for cartridge-based games when people has been used to paying £1.99 up to usually no more than £9.99 for games?

The 'good old days' when Nintendo was clobbered by the Federal Trade Commission in the US for price fixing and also fined by the European Commission for price fixing?

We agree on something at last! Such a thing, were it to happen, would be irksome to say the least given how much Sony has copied Nintendo over the years. I'm not here to 'bash' Nintendo and I certainly like them more than I do Sony and Microsoft but that of liking Nintendo doesn't mean I'm happy to see revisionist history and fanboy piffle.

A Nintendo thread, and at this specific particular point in time in all honesty is not the best place to ask this. It largely depends what you want from gaming and what type of gaming you want for your son. If you state what you think he would like and what you would be happy for him to play, you might just get lucky and get some "balanced" feedback and information :smiley:

In terms of whether the Switch is good investment, you just need to consider how it will actually be used by the kid. It's the only console that doubles as a handheld, so that's great for portability, and it means they needn't hog the TV. But if they're a bedroom gamer and have their own TV, then a PS4 might make sense. Switch has 2-player out of the box, whereas PS4 is arguably more of a solo experience. Each system has its own set of exclusives.

I would say a Nintendo is more "child-safe" out of the box, generally. Watch the "Nintendo Switch Parental Controls" video on YouTube. It's very amusing and informative.

Given that, of the top 25 games that IGN have played on Wii U, 11 of them are made by 3rd Party Developers speaks volumes.

Pokkén Tournament - Bandai Namco Studios
Affordable Space Adventures - KnapNok Games
Steamworld Dig - Image & Form
Lego Star Wards The Force Awakens - TT Fusion
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate - Capcom
Axiom Verge - Thomas Happ Games
Xenoblade Chronicles X - Monolith Soft
Rayman Legends - Ubisoft Montpellier
Bayonetta 2 - PlatinumGames
Shovel Knight - Yacht Club Games
Minecraft - Mojang

Maybe they're not so called AAA rated games but what does that actually mean? They're not AAA rated because they're better than anything else - far from it. They're AAA because a large studio has invested more time and money marketing them than other games out there.

If the big studios with the most money aren't able to come up with something playable or exciting then they should be questioning their own abilities, not Nintendo's.

Depends what games you want him to play - it would be a virtual certainty that he'll want Call of Duty and other 18 rated games, mostly due to peer pressure. On Nintendo's side there's this - http://www.polygon.com/2017/1/13/14265712/nintendo-switch-parental-controls-video-app-ios-android.

Unless he's a big zelda fan it may be better to wait till Splatoon 2 and MK 8 deluxe releases (or defer till Christmas when the lineup is stronger).

On the other side of the equation, the PS4 has a very strong library of games and is the current market leader. Maybe see what the desired lifestyle choices are? As you've mentioned gaming on the go, maybe a 3DS can satisfy that?

"So negative" - hyperbole, much? Clearly there's a mixed response but there's plenty of positive hype along with the usual whining that it's not another medium-spec gaming PC to go under people's tellies.

And that means my opinions are invalidated? bit harsh. Considering I take care of the HUKD Nintendo thread too that would be a double strike for me then.

...I already pointed out the fact that you have a Nintendo Switch logo as your avatar? :confused:

On the contrary, I'm on the fence like a lot of people here. I just happen to like what I experienced. Not sure why you're implying bias when I stated what I liked and gave fairly specific reasons for why I liked it? Others can form their own opinions based on what I wrote (or others if they choose). I'm not telling people to like it.

I am finding it so hard to choose a console for my 9 year old after reading all the different comments about the switch and other consoles.

I wonder if i am correct in waiting for this or just maybe get him a ps4 instead we only thought the switch would be good because its an handeld console as well

I couldn't agree more.

The problem is that we are living in the so called Playstation Generation and unfortunately any console that isn't anything remotely like it is immediately considered tripe. They know little of Nintendo or how they'd probably not have said Playstation had it not been for the likes of, Atari, Nintendo, SEGA and others like them.

I was fortunate enough to have been a child when the NES was released and can remember very well playing Super Mario Bros with my family back in the good old days when we appreciated what we did have and didn't have the same kinds of access to cheap technology as we now do.

I think if Nintendo had announced something similar to the Playstation, they'd still get moaned at for it being 'just another Playstation copy'. I can't imagine they could win either way.

Yet none of the systems to which you are comparing the Switch will do what Switch does. That's its USP, and it's a strong one.

It's actually a little bit sad that gaming has been reduced to "my dad's harder than your dad's" levels. Having grown up with gaming, I'm amazed people today make such a big deal out of terraflops and nonsense like that. Does it have some importance? Of course it does. Should it influence your decision? My opinion, but absolutely not.

Anyway, Switch will find it's market. You could argue that Nintendo is being clever. Aim primarily for the home console gig but if after 12 months its struggling then scale down and "switch" focus on the handheld market. I can see that happening and 3DS phased out in time but that doesn't bother me much. The thought of 3DS priced games on Switch using it's upgraded power and functionality seems pretty special to me.

I just don't get the hostility towards Nintendo/Switch! It's hilarious!

tl;dr version of your reply:

Entirely unbiased person who just happens to have a Nintendo Switch logo avatar is hyped about Nintendo Switch. Shocker! :smile:

"So negative" - hyperbole, much? Clearly there's a mixed response but there's plenty of positive hype along with the usual whining that it's not another medium-spec gaming PC to go under people's tellies.

...and just like with the Wii U, therein lies the problem. The hardware is yet again too weak to run most AAA third-party games without significant compromises made. The alarm bells are already ringing that third-party support will once more be severely lacking.

So if you buy Switch primarily for Nintendo games then all's good. As a Nintendo gamer you'll be used to lower standards in visual fidelity by now so nothing much will change even though Nintendo's games would obviously look so much better were the hardware to not be mobile technology from two years ago.

As a 'second console' Switch may see some sales although one has to wonder how many PS4/XB1 owners will be willing to pay for a second mandatory monthly online gaming subscription and also how many PC gamers will be willing to pay at all for such a thing when it's quite rightly free to them on PC.

Yes, seriously. I tried it (Rumble HD). I liked it. I'm excited for it. I personally think others would/should be too. But if they don't, then that's ok too.

ARMS is completely playable without motion controls. I'm saying the motion controls used are very good and responsive. But they don't float your boat, you're free to play without. And it's a good game with or without motion controls at least from my limited play time. I liked my experience and I'm looking forward to more of it.

By all means have a moan and a rant but what's your beef here? Switch has features that will allow for a number of user experiences. It provides options. What's wrong with that?! By most accounts the advanced rumble tech is very impressive. And the joycon/wiimote v2? Also highly thought of by users (if a little small).

Not a dig at you but I'm curious - did PLaystation VR get such a bashing round these parts? Just wondering if the Switch bashers are at least consistent with most of their complaints. Overpriced, fad, poor support, etc, etc.

From what I have seen it will be a simple, regular USB C wall wart charger that plugs into the dock. The dock directly. What Im not clear on is how Switch charges when in the dock - is it a small USB C plug you slot it down int to?

Anyway, any USB C cable/charger should work. Nice move from Nintendo.

I think the fact that it's a hybrid and that's a new thing is confusing people. They want to put it in a single category, 'if nintendo says its a console then it has to be a console in the traditional sense and therefore why isn't it as powerful as the ps4!'

its the size of a tablet and you can carry and play on the go like a gameboy, but nevermind that! lol

its like they forget when you plug it into the tv, the graphics are still coming from the hand held device. Its functioning like a console when its on the TV but its not ever a pure console you can always pick it up at any point and take the game with you. Don't be fooled , the stand/cradle it goes on is just a glorified HDMI-out

3ds had a slow start and it thrived, graphic didn't hold that back

"So negative" - hyperbole, much? Clearly there's a mixed response but there's plenty of positive hype along with the usual whining that it's not another medium-spec gaming PC to go under people's tellies.

Seriously?

Because motion controls are what everyone wants and weren't a fad that died out quickly once people were done with Wii Sports on the original Wii?

As 'a very big Nintendo fan' you should already know that the company has previously been all about having the most powerful console that they can.

Plenty of Americans have complained about the $299 price which you can't blame on Brexit.

While it's a great thing that Nintendo have FINALLY done away with region locking games don't forget that those savings you speak of will be partially offset by them soon forcing mandatory subscription fees on to those who simply wish to play their games online. Oh, and let's not forget the obscene pricing of Switch accessories.

13 million actually, 13 million in four years whilst Sony have sold around 55 milion in three years.

You'll find it's because they only sold 13 million they've dropped the Wii U like a stone and been so desperate to churn out the Switch so quickly to replace it.

Of course the Nintendo Defence League would spin it as this was a product only for a 'niche' market rather than putting their hands up and accepting it's actually been an abject failure.

Oh and I say this as a Wii U owner who actually likes the thing and appreciates many of it's games but it is what it is

"So negative" - hyperbole, much? Clearly there's a mixed response but there's plenty of positive hype along with the usual whining that it's not another medium-spec gaming PC to go under people's tellies.

I think i will wait now as the console is no good without a game and i am not paying £50 for a game so willing to wait for a console with a game at a cheaper price.

Then get over it and don't buy it, far more important things in life.

"So negative" - hyperbole, much? Clearly there's a mixed response but there's plenty of positive hype along with the usual whining that it's not another medium-spec gaming PC to go under people's tellies.

The console will be powerful enough to play all of the games that Nintendo choose to release on it, so fear not.

go read my post and original post again then come back..
someone said that Switch will become the home of MOBILE games (if it's dedicated standard games are few) and I said there is no need for a system for MOBILE games when MOBILE games can be played on phones and tablets already.

it wasn't about comparison of standard video games vs mobile phone games,it was about another device to play small, mini mobile games vs phones.

Plenty of people who want to play Nintendo games, in fact love them, but not happy with yet another gimmick driven under power console being forced upon them to play those said games.

Please don't confuse legitimate warranted concern with moaning, thank you.

They sold millions of them. Maybe not anywhere near as many as Sony or MS but millions all the same. Many of the games were also absolutely brilliant.

Why re so many people moaning, either you want to play Nintendo games or you don't... if you don't then just be happy with whatever system you have... why come here to **** it off?

Thank you for a rational comment that has restored my faith in a somewhat flagging HUKD gaming community. Thank you!

I never even got a pro controller for the Wii U and managed fine without one. There were plenty other decent and cheaper options available. I am pleased to see Nintendo going back to providing 2 controllers with a console. Although it may seem relatively trivial, it is because it is such a low expectation that things like that, and also the 3DS units no longer having a power supply/charger included now, it really does give a bit of an avoidable bad taste feeling.

and look how well that did.....

You really expect Sterling to 'plummet' when the fascist liberal elite on the continent are filling their drawers at the prospect of Frauke doing well in Germany and Geert n Marine doing even better in Holland n France respectively?

As for two pin Euro to three pin UK adapters erm you can pick them up for as little as a quid as has been said already.

Same old remoaner scare tactics even in here :smirk:

I don't doubt that they'll release a bundle or two which include a game and I don't doubt that this will come around Christmas time or that they'll come out priced around the current price or slightly less. I don't think they'll drop the price 'pretty soon after' though simply because in order to sell their bundles at Christmas, they'll need the console to maintain its price point up until that time so that the bundle and associated price drop are considered a good deal, thus driving further sales and creating a bit of hype on sites like this.

People seem to be fixated on how powerful this console is or isn't. As 'a very big Nintendo fan' you should already know that the company isn't about bringing out the most powerful console that they can, they're all about bringing out fun consoles that have new and exciting ways to play - and great games. This console hits will hit all of these marks.

To say that the console is too expensive, I would say, is also wrong. My issue with the price is that the current exchange rate is screwing us over, but that comes at a time when most manufacturers are also putting up their prices and it's not something we can change. You can't ignore the fact that there are more costs to Nintendo than simply the hardware involved associated with making the console & will have priced the product based on this. Sony & MS's consoles are over half way through their life-cycles and as such they can perform price drops, particularly as they've already released their smaller console variants which will no doubt be costing them a lot less to make. Don't forget that you can also buy your games from anywhere in the world to play on the Switch which will potentially save you more money.

If people want Nintendo to succeed they should stop bashing them and get behind them, otherwise they'll end up like SEGA making rubbish reboots to suit all consoles.

Is that confirmed?

I thought it was USB-C to charge the console outside of the dock, but was assuming that the power to the dock would be a regular plug, with a separate step down like other Nintendo consoles, and likely with a propitiatory connection, because, well, Nintendo.

Amazon.fr aren't bad for launch stuff. I bought my Wii U from them at launch - which of course needed 2 Euro plug converters..!

It's pretty commonly accepted wisdom that the higher resolutions matter less when the screen is smaller. Would it be nice if it was 1080? yes. Does it matter? nope.

Yes, me too but that is exactly why I have a high-end PC. I find the games on the PS4/Xbox so far behind that I find it hard to get absorbed (it's like going back to a PS3 after having a PS4).

However, the Switch offers something that doesn't need much horsepower... pure unadulterated fun!

I had a good hands-on experience in the London event. Cringed a bit at the gameplay elements with strangers when I played the 1-2 Switch games, but mainly because of initial awkwardness - the games themselves lent themselves well to multiplayer fun but not sure if we've seen enough of the title to say whether it could be a good party game. Rumble HD is a nice feature to get excited over - it is very very nifty and I can see is helping build immersion in games compared to standard rumble.

The motion controls were very very good for ARM. That's a really fun game that people have been unfairly judging due to it having bright colours and looking a bit like Wii Boxing 2. Gameplay-wise, the battle system seems like it's got loads of depth - and matches will be tactical affairs rather than people flailing their arms about. You can do the latter of course, but you won't win many. It's a game anyone can enjoy but you need to put some time in to master it. I like that it offers online multiplayer and look forward to watching or participating in ARMS battles.

The controllers all had a nice premium feel to it. They don't feel cheap. The JoyCon Switch grip looks odd initially but it works very nicely for games and feels good in hand. I played with that and the pro controller. A lot has been made about the pricing for Switch accessories and controllers, but there is actually quite a bit of tech in them which surpasses what's in other controllers so the launch pricing, while very high and higher than what I'd want to pay, seems understandable. Splatoon 2 with the Switch grip controller was easy to pick up and play - though i did struggle with the button mapping to show up the map - had a few mistaken presses but that will solve itself in time.

Anyone looking to purchase a Switch definitely doesn't need the pro controller.

@ The_Guru

“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”

​720p lol !!!

That's right, and when the pound is worth a euro then you've spent even more for no reason.

Seems a LOT of hassle to gamble that you can MAYBE get a saving of £20 in 5 weeks time...in fact today the price is £261, so £18 of a saving less your quid for an adapter.

No thanks, still UK preorders available...

In the checkout it says the estimated delivery date is 7-8 March, when the console is released on the 3rd of March. So it seems like they're not going to ship them a few days early so you can get it on release day. Something to bear it mind if you can't wait those extra few days for Zelda :smiley:

I have a pc but there are xbox and ps4 exclusives I also like which is why I have those. I've bought Zelda for wii u and won't need to think about a Switch until Mario Odyssey comes out. The rest of the titles don't interest me but it was a response to someone who said the Switch was close to xbox one performance, it certainly isn't.

It's not all about performance but performance obviously is extremely important if you are trying to create ambitious titles that create complex living virtual worlds that I personally find so compelling.

Yep, make sure you add 99p to the final price to cover the cost of an adapter! :wink:

Just wait til the pound plummets and you'll save diddly squat.

And don't forget to price in a UK 3 pin adapter.

Spot on.

Why are people ordering from Amazon FR when Argos and Tesco still have pre order release date delivery stock??

are these any good anybody played yet

It's not about the power of the consoles it is the games . This simply will not have many games . If your happy paying out near on 300 quid for the privilege of playing Mario Kart , Good on you . Personally I have been burnt by the last 2 consoles .Over the last 2 consoles I played Mario Galaxy 1 & 2 and Mario Kart on the Wii and Wii U . Yes Nintendo make some of the best games , but they don't make many of them .

The JoyCons with the grip is a more than capable controller in it's own right. Don't write it off so quickly. It's well built and sturdy.

Wow, just wow. We have never had it so good for gaming. Nintendo are offering something different. If you don't like it, don't buy.

I sold my PS4 last week as I don't think I have played it in over a year. I'll give the Switch a go to see if it gets more use

No, I'm saying that is the only reason I would buy one.

Not a bad price, though don't see the point of buying the Switch at the moment, as it is it's an expensive hybrid that will allow you to play Zelda on the bog for £300, (though technically you should be able to do that with the WiiU as well). Maybe it will be worth it in the Winter when more games are available, but the launch line-up is probably the worst I have ever seen in over 25 years.

My PC is 9tflops yet I preordered a Switch.

In my eyes the Switch, PS4 and Xbox One are all drastically underpowered in comparison. However, the Switch has a lot more to it than just power, it also has some incredible exclusives.

But for me the Xbox/PS4 are just ageing consoles that offer nothing new. Seriously if you are that worried about performance, then get a PC!

So you're assuming every Playstation owner in the world only bought the console for a bit of Nathan Drake?

Erm ok

None of those slightly above average titles interest me in the slightest. The only one I am slightly jealous of is Uncharted. :smiley:

wii u was only 176 gflops its not official of course but if you check neogaf and the people who wrote the wii u emulator that is its level. So 0.2tflops at best. The eurogamer leak has the Switch at 0.15tf in portable mode and 0.4tf docked. Not even close to xbox one power, actually in the same area as ps3/360 with a resolution boost when docked.

Switch is a portable first and brings ps3/360 gaming performance to a portable that is its selling point really. If you don't need a portable the argument for Switch is far less convincing. It's a rubbish home console but does convert easily into a system fully usable in the home but as a home console it is incredibly weak and not much more powerful than the wii u.

The wii u was incredibly weak for 2012 and now in 2017 the Switch as a home console has barely moved in power from wii u. Really its for diehard Nintendo fans or people who want a powerful portable system with the bonus of a home console feature and can put up with the short battery life when portable.

Maybe not before release but pretty soon after this will drop in price. Nintendo have gambled with this and it's unlikely to pay off. They are releasing ANOTHER new console which is pretty far behind the competition tech wise, and therefore apart from the play on the go aspect they are back to relying on their first party software because third party X-Platform games will simply not perform as well as they do on other consoles.

Their In House games are clearly special but there just isnt enough of them, and therefore this console will have little interest to people outside the hardcore Nintendo fans. I will pick one up, as a very big Nintendo fan over the years BOTW alone looks too good to miss, however this is just too expensive for what it is and I will not be alone in feeling that way. Come Xmas this will easily by £250 with a game, which is still too expensive IMO but my Zelda/Mario fetish will beat my logical brain when it comes down to that price.

You've used that Uncharted line at least three times now, thus it's getting a bit tired.

So may I suggest something like God of War, The Last Of Us, Bloodborne, Ratchet n Clank, The Last Guardian and Gran Turismo to name a few if you're struggling :smirk:

It's still a little too much.
£259 for just the basic package.
Another £65 if you want a decent controller (Pro).
Then £48 per game.

Overall the console looks poor in both design, functionality and power.
I'm only interested in the exclusives and there's only a few good ones in the lineup (Zelda, Super Mario, Mario Kart and maybe Splatoon 2).
They should have bundled it with Zelda or a Pro controller at this price.
I might buy it in the future if the price drops further or the exclusive lineup improves considerably.
Otherwise I could always pickup a used WiiU for Zelda, it looks like this will suffer the same fate as the WiiU.

Are you for real? Does PS4 barely have any good games? Yeah but Dark Souls 3 is hipster trash and i've played better janky PS2 games than that garbage.

Does PS4 have anything like Mario and Zelda? No but do I give a crap? No. Not everyone is a Nintendo sheep thinking they are the best thing since sliced bread. Nintendo are washed up and quicker they stop making crappy systems the better.

it's both


you are clueless, you are claiming you will get the same experience on your phone and you literally said you will be able to play the same games on your phone/ipad so why bother with the switch

if you're so clued in then you'd know that apple store games and mobile phone games are nothing like conventional handheld and console games

It's Mario Run on the android Vs Mario Odyssey on the switch, it's a different league

Extra storage is cheap enough. I've got a few SD cards / USB sticks around.
I'd get one this month but have had a lot go out so fingers crossed prices don't rise.

How is comparing a gaming tab with a gaming tab irrelevant? The ipad even has the latest Mario games!

See, I don't get this.
I'm all for MK8 deluxe, Mario Odyssey and Zelda but the rest? Nah.
Donkey kong is pretty decent but you can get similar games on PS4, like Rayman Legends.
Star fox - yawn.
Xenoblade chronicles 2 - PS4 has games like Tales of Zestiria, Final fantasy etc.

I don't know why you think that everything on PS4 is more generic than Splatoon?
Maybe check out games like Fez, Tearaway unfolded, Ratchet and Clank or the upcoming Rime, if you want Nintendo like games.
If you want a cute shooter like Splatoon you have stuff like Plant vs. Zombies: garden warfare 2.

Yeah you probably will but I wouldn't wait around, prices will rise again.

Personally I would try and get the premium, it looks a lot better in black and the extra storage is really useful.

Gamecube and N64 controller were decent

Yawn. Sure.

Now run along and go and play Uncharted fanboy.

I've seen plenty for around £150 but with game bundles.
I'm on about a basic 8GB model without any extras. Shouldn't be too hard.

in what sense? ipad is a android tablet and nintendo switch is a handheld game system[ and console hybrid ] its more akin to the 3ds or gameboy

bringing up the ipad is completely random and irrelevant

At the moment eBay is saturated with them as all the people who preordered the Switch want rid. Because so many are listed at the same time it's brought down prices considerably.

Once this initial batch sell the prices will creep back up guaranteed. Maybe not to pre Switch levels but I think it will stabilise at £150.

If I was you I would grab one now before that happens.

Nintendo just keep making underpowered novelty consoles that only sell cos of the next itteration of 4 or 5 IP (and zelda and mario arent that good in 3d anyway)

The controllers have been universally terrible since the super famicom and this doesnt look to be an improvement, except in tablet mode. But then that in itself is pointless too, its not particularly portable and the battery life on it is trash.

As for the 720/1080 thing. Are ppl really saying they cant see a difference between a 720 rip and a 1080 rip? The same ppl prolly also said 420 was fine for the wii.

You can argue about hardware as much as you want but the really important thing to look at here are the games.

And the fact is that Nintendo's games to go with the Switch is pretty damn weak. Even if you want to play Zelda, you can do so on a Wii. The only new AAA game announced (as in not a remaster) was the Mario one but it's only scheduled to be released in December...

I think Nintendo really dropped the ball on this: no games = only hardcore fans will buy.
Low sales = low number of developers will want to publish games for it

Oh and even if you think the console price is fair, everything else is overpriced, £80 for a controller seriously? are they made of gold??? Paid online service and you don't get to keep the games from it??? I wish Nintendo would rise up as a competitor so that consoles don't die out but these money milking practices will hurt them in the long run

I should have preordered the switch for £200 with Gameseek a few months ago! :disappointed:

I do hope Nintendo knows what they're doing. The switch is potentially a great product and it fits the bill for so many people like myself who love Nintendo games but now sometimes need to fit them around hectic lives (kids, jobs, commuting etc). My initial thought is that the launch price is high and the lack of games could be a problem.

If the system doesnt get immediate traction, developers wont commit to making games. By the time any price drops do happen (6 months+) it may already be too late! :[

IMO I find Nintendo consoles as an overall gaming/media unit overpriced at this range. I would rather save the money & wait pay it for tne next gen Xbox or Ps4

To power this console you would need a decent charger with "Power Delivery" PD. But USB-C is a mess at the moment and getting a decent (won't damage your console) cable and charger is actually quite difficult and expensive. Apple chargers might be the way to go. Here is a list of consumer tests on USB-C chargers and cables from a Google Pixel viewpoint (which also uses USB-C PD Charging) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vnpEXfo2HCGADdd9G2x9dMDWqENiY2kgBJUu29f_TX8/edit

@The_Guru It's a completely ignorant statement and has the sheep mentality written all over it. People just say things for the sake of it to sound smart when they have no knowledge of what they're talking about.

I've read hands on reports that say the Switch's screen looks better than the Vita's cos it's got higher dpi.

Is that backlog the Nintendo Wii U?

Yet another one of the Nintendnuts proving they really do live in a parallell universe, good day to you too Boo.

I remember buying my Wii U from ShopTo for a big price slash 9 months after release in 2013. It still didn't have that many games when I bought it. Obviously prices will drop, but I'm expecting they will drop significantly after a few months. I love Nintendo, but I don't love them enough to buy their console on release (with about 4 games).

EDIT: https://www.engadget.com/2013/08/28/nintendo-wii-u-price-drop/ - They said 50 dollars, but it actually dropped more than that in some places. I paid £130 refurbished, but it was honestly like new and still works to this day.

Ha it's your reply that's utter tosh good day.

this will pee the French off all the stock being shipped to England :laughing::laughing::laughing:

So in other words though the DS4's battery life actually is rather pony granted, it's not of any relevance because assuming you're even that 1 in 100,000 PS4 owners that doesn't have a spare DS4 ready to go you can still just plug in the console and carry on playing.

Thanks for acknowledging your point was utter pants, you couldn't even decide whether the battery lasted 4, 6 or 8 hours hence you edited your initial load of old tosh :smirk:

On the contrary I have come across a few <£120 basic bundles on eBay. I could possibly get one close to £100 by going directly through PayPal with the seller.

Careful, I pre-ordered the PSVR on German Amazon at what was a great price, but Brexit made the exchange rate way worse to the point it was the same price as the UK. Keep an eye on exchange rates as they may well continue to get worse and this price in £ will go up.

Oh please, stop with the "fake demand, short supply" nonsense.

I worked in Game during the Wii/DS era and the demand was as high as anything I've ever seen. The Wii sold 100 million in 5yrs. There will be shortages with that kind of demand. The DS also had long periods of shortages because of the demand. No surprise it went on to sell 150million units.

And when was the WiiU ever in short supply besides launch? That's to be expected as fans are usually the ones to purchase initial units within the first few months.

In the case of Amiibo & NES Classic, Nintendo didn't anticipate demand would be so high. I'm the case of the latter, I believe Nintendo had a finite amount of units they wanted to sell. It was supposed to be a one time keep sake for fans but it seems everyone wants one. It's important to note that Nintendo don't won their own.manufacturing plant so they can't just wave a magic wand and get their little elves to endlessly produce consoles.

this is a much better price close to the £250 mark credible rumors were suggesting

Best not to hold out for that- the Wii U doesnt tend to drop that low, and especially now production's stopped on the console...

I reckon with 12 months, Nintendo will announce switch pro version; with beefed up specs and slimmer design.

Remember the technology being used from nvidia is similar to a tablet.

And after a year, there might be half decent library of games if you're lucky and also games would be selling at £50 a pop.

I'm happy playing zelda on the wii u for now

You speak for everyone who has a Wii U and has pre-ordered.

I guarantee, you, or anyone else, would never notice the difference between 720p or 1080p on a screen that size. Why would you make the hardware work harder and burn more battery just to pump out a resolution that your eyes gain no benefit from?

Yes I clearly said people use the ds4 on their travels.

Gonna try and get a second hand Wii U for as close to £100 as possible next month and buy Zelda for that.

Will get a Switch eventually but when there are more games and it's a lower price.

Why are a lot of people missing the point? Is not a case of "Oh this console is better than that" etc etc, surely it should be "we've never had it so good!" Awesome games on excellent systems across PS4, XBox, PC and mobile/tablet platforms and now an exciting new console which is both a home gaming system and portable all in one, effectively containing two control pads that attach to the screen! I say yay to variety, yay to being able to play an awesome zelda game, yay to playing a great looking Mario game later on.

There are hardly any launch games, but later on, when it's got the Marios, Donkey Kong, Metroid, Pikmin, Smash Bros, Mario Kart 9 etc, it's going to be fun! £280 is, to me, £140 for a home gaming console, and £140 for a nice portable gaming system too.

What, you know people who go on their travels and just play with the DS4 light bar all day?

People whinging about the battery life . How long would a phone last playing a game like Zelda on the go? Then again dualshock 4 lasts about 6-8 hours, now that is poor.

Good deal, OP.
Judjing by the comments, though, it seems that the PS4 fanboys are out in force.

Sorry to break this to you but you're clearly not the sort of Nintendo fan Noahsdad and his Nintendo Defence League cohorts want posting in here then, you have to be prepared to go toe to toe with mainstream XB/PS fan boy filth every step of the way.

In actual fact if you're not prepared to die in defence of the Mushroom Kingdom I would politely request you don't post in any Nintendo threads on this site ever again.

You been told, on your way now :man:

What are you talking about dude? There is no way an iPad mini could realisticly play MK8 Deluxe, Zelda or Mario Odyssey in any proper fashion, but I somehow think you are well aware of that and are blindly choosing to ignore the reality. I will happily concede you could play Bomberman on an iPad mini, but even then the quality of the gaming experience would clearly be greatly reduced.


Great photo and all, from a known XB'r too I might add as that seems to be quite relevant and a constant theme on all Switch threads. However the photo is completely off topic and irrelevant, constitutes spam really. Is a clear fact Switch is the best selling console of this year so far.

​Your mum's old passport during her "feminist phase"

I want this for no other reason than I want this.

Ginger National Party Conference 1987

I'm a long time Nintendo console day-one adoptee ..I've been hurt before

where is that photo from again?

Yeah, you are right. Its not an iPad Mini... even Android fans would argue that the iPad is stronger than a Switch !

You can tell this will be a success by the reaction it provokes.

It's got the PS4 fanboys really riled up.

I've already got an external battery pack for my phone so I can easily plug it into the Switch for extra hours.

Every bank makes a spread on the base rate, otherwise they are literally giving you a service that costs them for nothing at all.

So you got that much confidence in the system that you're talking about selling it on before you've even got it :laughing:

If it's a long journey your switch won't be any good 3 hours battery.

If it was anywhere else in France other than Amazon I would say the same, customer service is shocking (our neighbour bought a home phone recently that didn't work out of the box, the shop refused to refund and sent it off for repair and left him without a phone. When he complained he had no phone they said he could buy another one!), but Amazon France have English options for customer service and still have Amazon's high customer service standards.

I bought a Lenovo tablet for my in laws in August '14, by April '16 it wasn't charging very well or holding charge. I contacted Amazon who said to contact Lenovo. I said I bought the tablet from them, not Lenovo, and they sent me a pre-postage label to print out and as soon as it was scanned in at La Poste they processed the refund (model wasn't available anymore).

​Better battery life of 2.5hours. You're right 1080p would only have given you 42mins of play on the train.

The screen of the wii u gamepad was a very low cost resistive 800x480 screen often seen in those low cost digital phone frames and likely cost $2-3. Nintendo or Foxconn have never released exact information on wii u manufacturing costs but its easy to see the console performs to a very low level not even matching 360 and ps3 on many games. The fabrication process was low cost and the gpu and cpu are seperate units. It features no hard drive. The idea that the manufacturing cost of such weak hardware is comparable to the manufacturing costs of something like ps4 or xbox one is ridiculous. The Switch again does not merit its retail price by hardware. If you choose to buy it your choice but £280 will buy a laptop for example that is not made in the same huge numbers as Switch features many superior much more expensive components and has no benefit of royalty payments on future software sold in fact the laptop will have to pay a large sum in royalty costs themselves for the software included including windows.

Nope doesn't matter. I've had a few consoles from Amazon.fr before and when one developed a fault I just returned to Amazon UK. Not a problem.

Im a from software groupie and whilst I agree BB is excellent it's not 10 x better than souls 3. No idea why I felt the need to post this. Boring train journey :/

Would stear away from purchasing goods bought outside UK as no cover under Consumer rights act ..As likely come with EU Plug . It may invalidate any warrenties . You'll probably need purchase uk charger . Unsure Amazon's returns policy. Can you return goods bought in 1 country ( france) to another country ( uk)?. if not could prove costly and if any issues you may end up having to dust down your French dictionary

The battery life isn't great, but let's not spread misinformation. It's 2.5 hours to 6.5 hours.

How long do mobile or tablet games (or even gaming laptops) last when you're playing CPU heavy games running at full clip with physics stuff going on?

Vita and 3DS batteries aren't much better and you can get a 20000mah pack for £20 if necessary.

Well for a start Bloodborne is 10 times the game that DS3 is, so there's an extra reason to get a PS4.

I do struggle after that though...

...maybe Zero Dawn when it comes out.

Worth cancelling a Amazon.co.uk Switch order for? Will the box art be in French? Could effect resale value..

£259 for a hand held hand console? (which essentially is its only saving grace)

this wont be known for being a home console

Might already be mentioned but make sure you use a Halifax Clarity Card or similar to avoid the 2.5/3% foreign currency conversion rate on top. :smiley:

I couldn't disagree more...

​how much is the online component. Didn't think it was announced...or any details of it. PS4 cost £349 at launch

Need! And sold!

No heat here, system should have come in at a 180 quid mark tops, but the money Nintendo are asking here is simply ridicules for a handheld system that comes with a recharge dock integrated with a hdmi tv output, and the device does not even come with a d-pad, how is this 280 quid even remotely justified, what are Nintendo smoking.......i will pick this up in a years time from CEX when the system is selling at the same level as the Wii U did, and CEX are overflowing with units and games everybody is ditching due to third party devs dropping the system again due to it simply being to weak for ports, some devs have already stated ports from xb1 and ps4 are simply impossible, so forget about pro and scorpio ports.........Nintendo still trying to catch the Wii success but not realising gaming mobiles and tablets have already bite into their handheld market, and it will only get worse.

If you want good graphics, just buy a PC. Is it really that hard to figure out?

Ps4 - 1.8 tflops
Xbox One - 1.3 tflops

1) You don't notice that many people saying the Xbox looks awful in comparison, despite being almost a third slower. Does it look poorer? Sure. Significantly poorer? Not really.

Wii U - 0.3 tflops

2) For a console with 1/6th of the PS4's power, it still had some very good looking games that looked beautiful. Mario Kart 8 does not look bad by anyones eye.

3) For many reasons Nintendo can't compete in terms of raw hard ware, nor want to. A £500 Xbox Scorpio? Why, when I can build a better gaming PC for £100 more? Ps4 and Xbox are getting to the point where they're great consoles and mediocre PC's - they're comparing themselves to PC and finding it hard to compete, needing mid-gen refreshes just to stay technologically relevant.

The Xbox Scorpio has 6 TFLOPs. That's nice, the 1080Ti has 10.8. You don't see me, as a PC gamer, rubbishing the Xbox Scorpio, even though in real time terms it's still probably beneath a mid-tier PC.

4) A PC can be 6 times as powerful as PS4. That doesn't make it look 6 times as good. People are massively under-estimating how good the games on the Switch will look. You don't need an incredible piece of hardware to have good looking games, you need smart development, a good aesthetic and efficient programmers - all of which Nintendo have.

5) The Switch will be close to as powerful as an Xbox One.

If you're bothered about graphics, buy a PC.
If you're bothered about exclusives, well you're stuck with that console.

But please stop with the "PS4 BETA GRAPHIX" nonsense. End your superiority complex over an old and middling piece of hardware.

but couldn't a more powerful Nintendo console run Mario Kart, Star Fox, Donkey Kong, Zelda? (and play the latter properly,not with frame rate issues and washed out graphics due to sucky hardware)..

it was the best opportunity at this point of time when competitors are at half life cycle for Nintendo to come with a powerful core console without wasting the budget on useless gimmicks and tablet form factor,so not only they could have Mario and Zelda and DK,but also superior versions of all other 3rd party games..
yet they blew it because simply they are out of touch with gamers and maybe just not confident, they want to chase the ghost of Wii.

who would buy a PS4 or Xbox if they could get higher resolution/better frame rate versions of most games on Nintendo's console,PLUS nowhere else to be found Nintendo exclusives?

and it wouldn't really cost too much now to do it compared to 3-4 years ago..

remember Nintendo were into power and specs when they were at their prime with NES,SNES even N64 and GC..and the best versions of all those games you mentioned were made on those powerful (at the time) consoles.

lol decades of gaming and particularly gaming on Nintendo consoles and yet being called "clueless gamer" + some explanation about differences between Nintendo games and phone games by someone who most likely started gaming with Wii :laughing:

They actually said they will sell it cheaper later on? That's an odd statement for a company to make.

Honestly though as the launch titles stand right now, the Switch ain't even worth £100.

Other consoles only sell at a loss to begin with, then they make the production more efficient and so they start to make a profit. I.e. AMD will refine their process for the APU and eventually create surpluses, meaning they can sell it for cheaper.

The Wii U never became more efficient in production, this is the big difference. A good 60-70% of the cost of the console was just the screen. The GPU/CPU was made by 5 different companies, it was a mess and IBM ended up making the majority of it in New York. No one else used the components nintendo did in the Wii U, so no one shared market.

On top of that Sony and MS can afford to make a loss on the hardware because their software sales are ridiculously high (50 mil on ps4 vs 13 mil on Wii U). They made several great games, but they just didn't sell enough units to make it worth while. They sold 3.7 million units of "Super Mario Maker", which is nothing and almost pointless from a financial view point. Uncharted 4 sold 8.7 million units and shipped even more than this.

Basically, Nintendo had nowhere to go with the Wii U. They made it as cheap as they could and still very few people bought it, so they gritted their teeth and moved on.

Thankfully lots of parts in the switched are a shared market (Screen for phones, batteries for everything, joy con controllers cheap to make, Nvidia will subsidise the GPU to rival AMD, a mini usb port for power). A lot of this stuff was not in the Wii U - pricing is v easy to get down.

I'm guessing they will hold out on the price and it will be quiet on the sales front but then Christmas will role around, there will be a few more games out for it and then we'll see some really good bundles at decent prices for the holidays and sales will pick up - it might even be a success!


But supposedly every console is sold at a loss - retail price less than manufacture price - and yet the other manufacturers drop their prices faster than Nintendo. But, yes, they'll start out with the price as high as possible because some people will buy at that price and then they've got room to lower it to tempt more people.



It charges from a USB-C connector, so not a micro USB cable like the ones you've probably already got loads of, but it should be cheap and easy enough to get a cable for it (just don't buy one from Nintendo - they're £25!). But it won't cost £3-4 for an EU adapter - you could get one in a £1 shop, £2 delivered online at most. You probably already have a spare one lying around anyway, especially if you've got an electric razor in the house.

Nintendo said themselves the Switch is a console rather than a handheld.

lwhat are you on?

It's not an ipad mini Why are you making out like its an ipad mini lol.. It's a dedicated gaming device. It's a nintendo handheld. Unlike your phone which plays applestore shovelware it will have full actual proper games on it. You will not have the exact same functionality on your phone , why would you even think you would. haa.

The PS4 was built for mainstream gaming and mass generic shooters and so on. You don't get Mario Kart, Star Fox, Donkey Kong, Zelda, and all the many other magical Nintendo stuff on such a mainstream console. You also won't see something like Splatoon, simply not generic enough for PS4.

Your really trying to compare with someone buying a popular but generic boy band album like West Life or whoever [insert your own boy band here] with another person who is buying a Radiohead album.

It's not a handheld. It's an iPad mini. Look there's an easy test to all of this. At any time, ever, have you thought "this experienced would be enhanced if only I had brought my iPad mini to play games on".

Outside of a flight, I can't think of a single time I've ever taken my tablet out of the house specifically to consume media or play games. Why? I have the exact same functionality on a phone that is 2 inches smaller screen real estate..... hardly a deal breaker.

Plus lol 720p plus 3 hours max battery life..... it would even last a flight to the south of France let alone a transatlantic flight

It's less powerful, with fewer gamesscheduled for 2017 than PS4 had within three months of launch witha worse and more expensive online component, and it costs more too.

The logic goes.

A product is made to sell
I make money to buy products
Therefore the products I buy are more valuable to me than the money I make.

Talk about a clueless gamer lol

That cheap mobile phone shovelware you're talking about is not even in competition with nintendo games lol no one would put them in the same bracket

It's a hyrbrid console and it's best selling point is that you can use it as a handheld. Look at wii u stats then look at 3ds stats. Handheld is nintendo's forte. It will see more success as a handheld and hyrbrid, if it was a sole home console it would just be the wii u over again and not successful at all

I'd love one but I'm sorry I don't think it's worth that price tag. Especially considering it doesn't even include a game. Pass

Fair enough. I do have a feeling many who are saying they had Nintendo consoles previously and are not interested in the Switch will end up biting at some point. It only needs a few cracking titles here and there, like a good Star Fox game, Luigi's Mansion 3 or whatever and the Nintendo fans are always pulled in by the tractor beam. There seems to be different levels of tractor beam to pull different people in. MK8.5 certainly doesn't do it for me, but Mario Odyssey really grabbed my interest and will be enough.

Or both! Two separate pieces of hardware that share the same library?

Nintendo aren't going to abandon handhelds, and it would mean creating a whole new handheld device.

I think the better option would be the exact opposite: a core home version that attaches to TV without the tablet and those joycons bundled with a Pro controller for much lower price,(easily possible with eliminating tablet screen and joycons) so at least it's justified buying for those who are fan of those Nintendo games but don't want portability and gimmicks..

Why can't the Switch have limited western third party support and land somewhere between the 3DS and U in terms of success?

why would anyone prefer an additional costly device : a bulky tablet with very poor battery life and 720p screen for mobile games when they can already play them on any smart phone or tablet (mostly with much better quality if screen and longer battery life too) for free or very cheap?
they charge £8 (now £10!) for their mobile version of Mario Run and it's sold much less than their expectations.and that was their prime flagship game.
so no it has zero chance if becoming home of mobile games.
it's only chance of success is being successful as a standard games console.
It might either sell ALOT and attract 3RD party support and become a success ,or it won't sell enough and do wont be worth 3Rd party developers time and will sadly have the same fate as Wii U.

I think a pure handheld revision could come in the future - non removable controllers, maybe slightly smaller, more power efficient...

But let's get the console released first and see where Nintendo are by Christmas. If the games are quality and we get Zelda, MK8D, Mario, Arms, Splatoon 2, Xenoblade 2, Bomberman (at a decent price!), Fire Emblem Warriors I'll be very happy. Plus whatever non AAA third party stuff we get.

If they have that library, a better price, sort out the crazy peripheral prices and upcoming games for 2018 it could do well. And if Nintendo are able to provide the support to one console they gave to the 3DS and U at the same time, I doubt I'll have to worry about stuff to play on it.

While the new controllers have HD feedback they don't have mainstream features like analogue triggers and many current games even android games benefit from those. The Nvidia Shield seems to offer a better console experience with a wide range of android games, more powerful hardware and support for 4k, hdr etc. You even get games like half life 2 and pricing of software is much fairer, infact incredibly cheap.

With Switch the games are upto £60 even quite basic games, the accessories are very expensive, even a plastic dock with a low current psu is £90. There is an online subscription. It's a hugely expensive gaming system which at its heart has very low performance and likely to only get 1 or 2 decent games per year designed from the ground up to run on Switch.

Thats the case IF this thing sales enough and suceeds..but if it flops like Wii U there will be no point in a revision.
and with decisions they took and the direction they semm to be heading it's not unlikely at all.

Yeh this is going to be another "Nintendo" console in that AAA third parties will not support it or bring their games to it as it's not powerful enough. However you will buy it to play those 4 amazing Nintendo games that come out for it lol.... I bought a Wii U got MK8, Splatoon, Mario Maker and Smash Bros.... apart from that the console was horrible.

I thought lessons would have been learnt, but apparently not.

However the Switch will become the home of Mobile games because it's ARM, so look forward to playing those... unless Nintendo don't allow you to use the Touch Screen, considering they haven't shown it off once.

No thanks.
as a previous owner of all Nintendo consoles from SNES to Wii U,I have no interest in this gimmick filled,under powered console at all.
the announcement completely killed it for me.
they had the chance and they blew it,one more time.
let die hard Nintendo fans enjoy it,hope they are enough to trig the crucial 3RD party developers support,otherwise it will be another piece of gaming history next to Wii U for those who are interested.

Better credit cards don't markup the rates. The Halifax Clarity card will give you the best rates.

9 years ago was when Wii launched and it retailed at £180. It was sold out for a long time after launch as well so find this quite difficult to believe.

They're not doing that with the Switch. The US alone had 2m units and they've sold out. Across the world it's the same numbers or more than Sony/ Microsoft at launch, the mini they made hardly any- possibly because they were focusing on this. No idea why people get so emotional about technology others might want.

But these companies don't convert to the exchange rate of what Google says the Pound is, they always undervalue it massively. I remember the Xbox One S on here last time and I went to buy it and my card company gave me way less than what it was officially..

That's a fair point but there does seem to be indicators the launch will not go that well let alone after the launch and Switch will only generate modest sales. Nintendo can either drop the price or bundle it with other products to add value or they can accept such low sales and see support disappear which makes its purchase in the first place a poor decision.

Nintendo really needs the Switch to sell, its meant to be one format to replace wii u and 3DS in the long term.

I guess they could abandon it as a failure and just concentrate on 3DS only but I think it more likely they will be forced into heavy discounting of the Switch until they can find a price point that generates significant sales.

However many are claiming this is a soft launch anyway designed to milk early adopters and that Nintendo fully intends to discount the system later in the year unless launch pricing generates significant sales which it seems unlikely to do. Launching in March and not discounting until September gives a significant time gap that means no early adopters would need any form of compensation.

Personally while I love Nintendo games I think the Switch is rubbish and a poor product and don't like the pricing but I'm not really a portable gamer and therefore much of the point of the product won't work for me. I have Zelda on wii u so really its only Mario Odyssey I want to play.

Heat for another great deal on the nations best selling console of 2017.

Yeah I paid £100 for my Wii, ooh 9 years ago now. £259? I think not.

People crying comparing it to the PS4 - can you play your PS4 wherever you like? Does the PS4 have games like Zelda and Mario Kart? The *only* good thing about the PS4 is Dark Souls 3. That's it. Buy a PS4. Buy that game. Complete it. Then sell the PS4. Sell it and never look back. Keep Dark Souls 3 though. Disgusting. Animals. ANIMALS.

Go buck-wild, my early adopting comrades!

Feather the nest so the rest of us can get one for a reasonable price in 6 months. :smiley:

And they let people vote in a referendum.

Heat!

Sticking with my UK Amazon order as using vouchers. Counting down the days until it arrives though!

Use a Hlifax Clarity Card or a Revolut Card and no non sterling charges.

Also the pound could go down to 1.10€ and it would still be cheaper than the UK - not withstanding card charges of course!

The argument about not playing games and doing social things can apply to any previous successful handheld, or even people sat staring at their phones or tablets.

Re AAA games, this is Nintendo, they've always had a pick up and play style - quick bursts or long gaming sessions and I think the Switch, when (if!) the games come will offer a pretty great experience. Plenty of Wii U games would work in handheld sized gaming chunks - a level on SM3DW. A race on MK8. Quick match of Splatoon (net connection alowing!). A day on Pikmin 3...

I don't think many AAA PS4 or XO games would work - Sony and MS don't really have the IPs for it; many third party IPs don't suit - they're all about narrative. Although many probably will play more involved games on the commute etc, but Vita never got AAA games on the level of the PS3/4. Knock off Killzones and Uncharted, when it should have had more Gravity Rush, Crash Team Racing, that kind of pick up and play stuff, that works on handhelds and home consoles.

As a one TV household mine will probably be played in portable mode (plugged in to the mains!) as much as the TV!

Those worried about exchange rate, just buy an Amazon FR gift card for this amount right now, and use it to buy the console.

I don't really understand why people would want to play Switch games on the go when those same games play at home. With a game as awesome as Zelda I don't want to ruin the experience by playing it on a little mini tablet screen in a distracting environment like a bus/train. Maybe I'm old fashioned but I want to play it at home where I can forget about the rest of the world on my big screen tele hopefully with some decent speakers/headphones and the Pro controller.

All I can see the portability appealing to is those who have very limited gaming time when at home, at least they have the option to play it when out for a couple of hours.

Just a heads up, it is a usb C cable for the console but it will be supplied with a 2 pin wall plug that would connect to the dock/take with you for charging meaning:
1. Use a 2pin to 3 pin adapter
2. Buy a new 3 pin Nintendo plug (cancelling the £20 saving)
3. Risk using a standard usb wall socket plug and a usb C cable

For £20 saving + translating in chrome seems effort to me "/

The Grey Switch is seemingly still available for launch delivery from Nintendo Store UK plus 3.33% topcashback :smiley:

I would not buy this or encourage anyone too if they take payment upon delivery. The currency is going to go down and so you may think you're getting this for £259, but come march that could be £300+.

Yeah. It's a European Warranty.

Would this covered by UK warranty

Remember to check if your bank charges for purchases in foreign currencies plus they might not give the same exchange rate. This could cancel out any saving

​when I was getting the train to work neither my friends nor girlfriend was on the journey...commuting to work on trains isn't exactly social able time

24p swing mate that's a years worth of savings on here :wink: cracking price.

Excellent price. Not long to go now!

​None... One of the advantages of being in the EU

Very temped but by my calculations total inc delivery = 306.30 Euros = £259.88 .. + 3% non sterling fee = £267.68 .. and that's if exchange doesn't go down further ... and it means not having a UK power cable / charger for dock or handheld. Doesn't seem worth it vs 279.99 amazon uk preorder

I don't think even Nintendo can be that ineffectual at supplying stock.
Or do you anticipate a crazy short Brexit? :confused:

​ this console was practically made for socialising with friends. It comes with two controllers right away for local multiplayer

Do people really need to be gaming 24/7 wherever they go? Why not spend that time your away from your consoles to socialize with friends, to study or chat up some cute girl? Why are people obsessed with spending every second spending it on games? Same thing happened with PS Vita, once people realized they didn't want AAA games on the go the system faded away from relevance. Same will happen with Switch.

What about customs charges?

ordered but who knows how much they will charge for the exchange rates on march 3rd. Currently its £259.17 but thats what google says and usually bank/amazon conversion rates vary. And of course the rates will change by then

Also Amazon aren't French and the money will go to the USA via Luxembourg

Ah I see... must be one of the anomalies! As my default delivery address is in France that didn't come up. They'll sell the Switch to France, but not the Switch and Zelda. Bizarre. I ordered a printer from Amazon UK to ship to France, and they wouldn't ship the one I wanted, but would ship the model above it and the model below. Ended up using Amazon Germany!

If anyone had a UK £40 Amazon Zelda order they may as well keep that and get the French Switch. Will work out at about the same, maybe a fraction cheaper.

not long before mario is on xbox and ps

The link I was replying to states that the seller cannot ship to the UK sadly.

"Ce vendeur ne peut pas expédier l'article sélectionné au Royaume-Uni – Ile principale ."

As I understand it "The seller cannot/is not able to ship the item to the UK (main body).

Thanks Buzz. I have a release day pre order with Amazon uk but have went for this as well while I mull over what option is the best for me. £20 is a good saving but I am really keen to get it day one.

Expédié et vendu par Amazon.

Shipped and sold by Amazon. They may not ship to the UK, I find some weird anomalies when ordering from one to the other - some stuff won't ship, some will. Amazon UK wouldn't ship my order to France when I initially preordered with them.

Glad my 360€ order has come down in price to 350€.

Can't wait for the Switch, new Nintendo games on a great portable platform, it's a no brainer for me. I don't care that there might not be a ton of third party devs - if i can play the latest Zelda and Mario games on the train i'm happy :smiley: personally i think the price point is reasonable for a new console. Bring on March 3rd!

​we should all read The Guardian, Vox, The Independent, Salon, Buzzfeed, TYT and BBC. And watch MTV's decoded.

yeh, good luck finding a £50 tablet that can play the same sort of games >_> - personally instead of spending £350 on a tablet that would be effectively useless for me and a xbox one I would rather have a switch to take anywhere - but different strokes and all that

Though if I must entertain the notion that people interested in the switch don't already own a console/pc and tablet/phone.

Xbone ~£200-250.
Tablet ~£50-100.

a phone/tablet is a lot better for every non-gaming use case than a dedicated gaming console....you don't bloody well say...

Also how much is said high end console and high end phone going to set you back? £800?

It's not supplied direct from Amazon, and as such can't be shipped to the UK.

I suppose my point is; it might be a superior mobile gaming platform than a phone/tablet, but:
- a phone/tablet is a lot better for every non-gaming use case.
- a console/pc will blow it away in every static use case.

Good price at the moment.... but I fear the demographic is so small, and the market so flooded, that Nintendo have another flop on their hands.

Thus I expect the price will need to plummet for it to gain any significant market traction.
Vote Cold.

There is an even better deal, including the Zelda (€349):

https://www.amazon.fr/Pack-Nintendo-Switch-paire-Joy-Con/dp/B01MZAF5BB/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1485450071&sr=1-2&keywords=nintendo+switch

Best option, plus you save money...

It looks like Amazon France are offering 5€ off your next order if you top up your account with credit of 100€. My French isn't perfect, but think you have until 1st April to spend it.

so top up with 300€ when the exchange is at a good point (for me it's just about there, although I can use our French account too) that way you've got the exchange locked down, plus you get 5€ which will just about cover your postage.

https://www.amazon.fr/b/ref=fr_topup_nov16_swms?node=11989595031

Offer ends on 15th Feb though.

If someone can add this to the OP, may help people out?

I don't think the UK price is too bad (obviously this is better), considering the impact Brexit has had on the pound it's only £30 more - I think we got away lightly compared with Apple's recent price hikes.

I live in France and I've had a french preorder from day one. It was 349€, then 329, then 324, 319, 309 and now 299...

France is usually super expensive, but everywhere has been cutting the prices out here - FNAC, E.Leclerc, Micromania...

I've also got a Zelda and Switch for 360€ (games are generally really pricey, even with Amazon), but at this price it's worth waiting for my UK Zelda for my French Switch. Feel the EU love people!

But the beauty of this is you can speculate up until the day of dispatch. If it goes up, just cancel.

​The Wii had 1200 games for it. The Wii U was great as a companion console to PS4. It's got 96 games rated 75 and over on Metacritic, 20+ of which are exclusive. Commercial disaster it was but it had plenty of good games.

But yeah, Amazon take payment for this once it's despatched so you're banking on the exchange rate being the same... and with Brexit changes coming up... nothings guaranteed to settle by the release date

i think there will be room for a hardware revision in future like the PS4 pro or new 3ds where it has a 1080p screen once it becomes more economical to do so especially considering battery.

Ordered, Cheers OP.

I have pre ordered this deal, delivery date is Tuesday 7th to Wednesday 8th.

​The battery life is already terrible though so imagine the battery life if it was a 1080p screen.

Good luck, for those even considering buying, you think you would have learnt by now.

Eh, getting there. There's still things I want to see like a game price drop and maybe a bundled game.

Roughly 2/3 days after, we believe.

would this still actually arrive on release day still?

​no, they're sensible. 720p screen means better battery life than a 1080p screen. And the difference in perceived resolution at that screen size is negligible for most people.

You should get to the bathroom ASAP.

Will be the usual Nintendo nonsense. They will short supply making it more desirable because there a little harder to get . Then no games will get released for it and then it will sit collecting dust under the TV for 2 to 3 years until they release another console.

Do you people not learn ? . Wii short supply - Then no games . Wii U short supply - Then no games . Even there other stuff they do it to . Remember the Amiibos ? again short supply and most recently the NES console .Yes , Yes the NES is still in short supply,but as soon as they think people are starting to lose interest they will flood the market again .

Does a French Nintendo Switch simulate shaking ice cubes in a glass of Perrier water? :laughing:

Delivered by the 7-8 March so only a couple of days after release worth waiting for £20 off

Close but....






...no cigar.

I've heard they've chipped in and bought you this:smile:

Good idea, thanks - never thought about doing that.

Get me gold watch next week...

720p screen at this price they are crazy!

Just heard Wakefield Asda has started procedures to close down :disappointed:

Sad day indeed.

Nintendo have openly said that one of the reasons the Wii U retained its value so much is because they sold every unit at a loss once you include tax and delivery costs.

They're trying not to make the same mistake with the Switch, they want flexibility with pricing which is why it is selling so high, so that in future they can bundle games with it or sell it at a lower price and people will appreciate the price drop from £280 to £250 + a game.

If they went £250 off the bat people would still be moaning it's too expensive and if they add a game no one is going to say that's an incredible deal. With the £30 eventual price cut and a game people will.

Long story short: Nintendo have said it's priced high so they can lower it in future.

Heat added, I'm moving to France but I'm still not biting....more games...please.....

If you get notification of the French one has been dispatched, u can refuse delivery of the Amazon U.K. One so u Dnt have to prat around sending it back, and getting charged for the pleasure.

It uses a USB C connector. Which is really, really strange for Nintendo.

Is the switch powered by USB or will in be a European plug that comes with it?, then an adaptor is need which is about £3-4, I already have a preorder with Argos with £7 discount so £273 minus potential adaptor £4 only saving around £8 as price coming in on XE around £260.70 with postage, so Dnt really k is if it's worth the hassle to be honest that's if it's powered with a plug

Tried it seconds before you replied. Hadn't actually noticed that the card states Amazon UK on it.

Never mind. Have ordered one anyway - now it's a decision whether or not to cancel my preorder on UK Amazon.

It won't.

Totally agree with this. I was hoping for £199 solus / £249 bundled. Unfortunately it wasn't to be :disappointed:

I'm still holding on my Amazon pre-order for a miracle price drop somewhere, but if nothings happened by the 1st March, I'm not going through with it, yet.

Thinking about covering my bases and ordering a second one of these just in case Amazon UK don't come through on my initial pre-order.

Wondering if my UK Gift Voucher will work; I suspect not but worth a try...

As someone who's preordered and is excited for the Switch, I'd say there's a damn good chance of that happening this year. I'm almost expecting 3ds level of pricedrop for this thing at some point in 2017. Sentiment surrounding it is so negative but they can't afford for this to fail. After the preorder period I don't expect strong sales.

Yes sorry, that's the checkout price.

Yes.

€299,00 for the Switch.
€7,30 delivery to the UK.

I would watch out with this it might be cheaper because of the strength of the pound atm but at the release date so close to brexit it is expected for the pound to lose value and this might be more expensive than the normal price in the uk when they ship and charge you for it. me personally I am going to wait until more games are planned to be released

Buzz - my French isn't good enough to find out for myself. Does this price include UK delivery too?

Good luck with that. The Wii U has rarely been reduced during its entire life-cycle so to think they're possibly going to knock £80 off before it's even been released to suit your budget is ridiculous.

Still too dear. I was expecting / prepared to pay 250 with zelda tbow

v hot

I really don't understand peoples logic when it comes to things being more expensive than others - it is probably one of the most retarded pieces of crap I ever read on the internet these days - i'll be sure to take my 40 inch tv and ps4 on the train with me next time I want to play a game on there >_>

​Don't, just don't tempt me... I don't need this! I've got a backlog coming out of my bum as it is without a new system!

They won't take the money yet :sunglasses:

Hot Buzz. Though I think I'm going to have to request they ban you from using HUKD the week before pay day and reinstate you on last working day of the month :smile: