Wakes you up with a cup of tea and a peck on the cheek.

It can search for extra terrestrial signals from Wigan

"gaming router". what other BS will they come up next? :laughing:

what does this do?

Wakes you up with a cup of tea and a peck on the cheek.

It can search for extra terrestrial signals from Wigan

Great for keeping pigeons off of your vegetable patch.

​nice ill buy 3

Wish it had a modem deal then I can ditch this BT junk.

Can you install DD-WRT or Tomato on it?

Brought this last night and almost posted it but struggled at 1.30am to get posted. It's £10 cheaper than when was Deal of the day just few months ago. It has MU-MIMO which I wanted. Used to max out my routers processor but this has a 1.7 GHz Dual-Core. Think it's going to be an excellent buy arriving tonight. I normally have 16 devices on wifi plus about 8 wired a large house so this is what I think I need.

"gaming router". what other BS will they come up next? :laughing:

Can you people please suggest an ISP provider that is both good and cheap that lets you use your own Modem/Router. Apparently I got lucky in obtaining my login details from Vodafone and my contract is up in March TIA.

Sure, I have dd-wrt running on my R7800

Main page is here:
https://www.myopenrouter.com/blog/dd-wrt-kong-mod-builds-updated-netgear-routers

I think that question was in relation to the d series with built in modems........which is a disappointing no as the modem chipsets don't usually have open source drivers like the wifi chipsets IIRC.

Can you use this with virgin 200mbp?

so this router or the ASUS RT-AC68U which is better ?

cheers

I've had this router for around a year. Running stock firmware, it rocks. WiFi I get superb speeds all over my large flat.

When I got my R7000 router it was OK. After flashing it with an AsusWRT firmware it is great. Far more responsive and, more importantly, I have been able to set it up with as a VPN client and have certain devices to run through that and other devices to run through the normal WAN.
I'm not sure how much of a difference this would bring over the R7000, especially with that firmware I noted.
Still thinking about building up a router and running pfsense on it, the R7000 gets overwhelmed if I push too much through the VPN.

Heat added.

They did away with the seperate modem with the homehub 5 which has an integrated modem and no "modem only" mode.

Definately not something to throw away.

I've got the Asus RT-AC68U running DD-WRT and find it great for speed, also able to run 2 Xbox One's both with Open NAT too

does anyone know if this would be better than the BT Smart Hub (the latest one which they keep raving about)?

​Same R7000 router. I run dumb boxes like TV's through the WAN and some PC's and others through the VPN client.

Presume this can do 50Mb/s with openvpn?

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Remember to do your research with routers, alot of people have been having disconnection issues.

https://community.netgear.com/t5/Nighthawk-WiFi-Routers/NetGear-Nighthawk-R7800-constant-disconnecting-and-slow/td-p/1085763

Ah, I see, I didn't know that! I moved off when we were still using the homehub 4. Cheers callum!

either get the D7800 which has a modem built in, or buy the modem of ebay for £18 ish... then throw the HH5 off a cliff

​On the basis of my studies there's an uncommonly high gravitational pull in the region.

I think some of the users disagree, the firmware released appears to of made it worse.
"Here is a comment from a user with the latest Firmware update:
Re: NetGear Nighthawk R7800, constant disconnecting and slow connection
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‎2017-01-05 11:21 AM

I bought my Netgear Nighthawk in August and it's worked perfectly since. Even took away my cable to my gaming computer and instead have been using wifi with about 100 mbit down and 10 mbit up. I updated to the new 1.0.2.12 firmware today and now I'm at 4 mbit down and 10 mbit up on all wifi devices. Not to mention the drops in connection that happen every few minutes.

To anyone who hasn't updated, DON'T! And if I have to reset everything to factory settings I'm going to flip, as I am leaving for a course tomorrow and can't really leave the family with a router that doesn't work.

Please try your firmware before sending them out."

I don't own the router, however I know somebody having this experience. I would recommend sticking with the R7700, unless you don't need Wifi on your router.

The post I've copied was from 5th January 2017? I don't mean that disrespectfully, but you've basically just informed people its okay to splash out £100+ on a router. If there is a firmware that fixes all problems, can you at least post proof?

Woahhhhhh £572 for a router (ad7200) . AD technology doesn't even exist yet. That's like buying a 5G phone.

You make a point but I'm not sure if context is being applied here.

When I first bought my second hand R7000 I had spent a while over at the Netgear forums before taking that chance. If I had made the choice only on the many posts I had read I would have probably avoided the router.
For me it has always been rock stable but a little lacking in its native VPN support. The UI when using the official firmware was also lagging. When Netgear tried to integrate Ario functionality it did get messy.
Using the AsusWRT firmware for that router and, with its hardware limitations, has been good for my needs.

But buying the R7800 from Amazon is as near to a trouble free risk as you are going to get with their excellent returns policy - at least in my long experience of using them.
Buy it and test it out and then if you can't achieve stability or it doesn't meet your needs just return it for a full refund, they even pay for its return.

I would be tempted myself at the price it is if I could be guaranteed that there would be a noticeable improvement of the 1.7Ghz dual core being able to handle my VPN connection at full speed rather than being saturated like my 1Ghz dual core is of the R7000.
Of course to do that involves flashing a DD WRT firmware and that has risks etc. And I do like the UI of a Asus router, but that is just a visual thing.

If new firmware is flashed, and not liked, can it be reverted to stock and the router still returned to amazon?

Awesome, thank you. This actually helped as I thought I was just expecting too much

I had a TERRIBLE experience with my last TWO Netgear routers. DD-WRT worked slightly better (but most the problems with the router firmware were ported over to DD-WRT). My problem is, people are naive and believe everything they read online. I remember buying the DGN3500, people told me "Oh yeah, solid as a rock after a firmware update" (which it actually was up until 6-12 months of use), but half the people commenting don't even own the router it is just assumed.

I do believe you, but I have had this experience with netgear before and they never fixed the problem. People think Netgear are so reliable, but they've never experienced being a part of a faulty batch of routers, and they cannot troubleshoot to save their lives.

I've linked a post I made 5 years ago, I had a faulty router, they wouldn't replace or return it and because I've had it over 6 months neither did my retailer.

https://community.netgear.com/t5/General-WiFi-Routers/DGN3500-disconnect-issues/td-p/301152/page/11

There is my proof. The situation to me just seems... too similar. I would never buy this router in a million years and no amount of convincing will make me waste my time buying it (because I'm the kind of person that WILL get a faulty one lol).

The worst part is, I believe the problems I've had with them were actually hardware related. My other routers have always worked fine, so maybe constant use just seemed to deteriorate them over time? I can't confirm/deny but in both instances they were never fixed with firmware updates.

If even having read this, you buy one and it happens to you, "I told you so". If you're lucky enough to get one that works for over 6 months, hats off to you.

EDIT: As you can probably tell, I have a bee in my bonnet with Netgear routers. :wink:

I do understand where you are coming from and can completely sympathise with your past experience.

For me it worked out fine, thankfully not needing Netgear and their support. For others they have had an horrendous experience. I have read similar posts and threads over in Asus type forums, in particular concerning the Asus 3200 router.

What I still suggest is that buying from Amazon, for me and many others, is generally a hassle free experience with both the purchase and returns. So many times I have had refunds credited back to me before they have even got my returned product. A £200 Sigma lens was refunded within an hour of dropping if off at a Collect+ shop just last week.

With the above in mind I would suggest if you are considering this a good deal then buy it from Amazon and test it using the supplied firmware and if you have lots of stability issues which can't be resolved then I would consider returning it for a refund. For me custom firmware has just added features etc rather than improve stability.

No problems, and thanks. I hope yours works, and continues to work. If you do start to experience problems, be aware they could subside/come back and it gradually gets worse. Like I mentioned in my first post, I know somebody with this router, and you need to RMA as soon as possible before the point of no return lol. >_<

So recently I have been suffering from really high ping, unplayable in online games. Never had an issue before. There are a lot of wireless devices connected in my house, about 12. It's definitely the wireless that is slowing me down because if I turn off the wireless my ping settles right down to 20-30 (to Discord server, and most games).

We have about 80mb which should be able to handle a few concurrent netflix streams right? I'm connected by powerline since my room is in the attic and we have virgin hub 3.0. Do you think a router with quality of service to give my pc a decent chunk of bandwith would solve my issue? It's strange because I've lived in the house for almost 3 years and this issue has only just started.

Something like as Nighthawk will give you a number of advantages (google terms), WMM and QoS (up/down and also service specific), the ability to manage bandwidth allocation at a device level, additional security benefits and options sets for UPNP and NAT settings, better port triggering and management, AC level speeds with greater throughput, much greater WIFI coverage, data transfer over LAN greater increased, USB ports for HDD NAS backups, parental controls etc.

I have a Superhub 2 on Virgin VIVID150, it's been running in modem mode since about 3 weeks in to my contract as it quickly became apparent it was a piece of junk that needed power cycling every week to make it do its job.

All that being said, your first job is to download InSSIDer/Netgear WIFI Analyser app and check your channels for interference, our neighbours could have changed provider or installed something DECT related and are causing your router to struggle across all of its interfaces, the processing power in them can't be great.

So, check channels, move your WIFI networks to whatever looks free and re-test. Perform firmware updates on your router/powerlines if possible, update relevant apps on your PC, check cabling isn't degraded (if it's unshielded and runs next to other noisy stuff you'll take a hit too.

Failing all that, buy a better router and see how you get on.

​Well have only owned a couple of days am not seeing these issues. Haven't had any dropped clients have 19 devices connected currently get up to about 24 at a max at one time. Was a little disappointed on speed on wifi on a couple of devices until realised as I was adding more devices to the Wifi the limited speed was down to what the tablet /phone can handle. Range is a bit further than my old Asus, but a lot lot faster and lost the old annoying blackspots upstairs.

UI for setting up was not as nice as the Asus router that was used to. Meeting our needs no longer overwhelming my router if push it hard. Speed into house was 164 Mbps and so getting what was paying for. Would say I considered getting faster now realised I don't have many devices that can use most of the full WiFi speed this is giving me.

I think it's been an excellent buy.

Yep - working great for me as well. Noticeable improvement. The thing does look quite imposing and is bigger than you realise.

I've just seen the Amazon price has gone back to £199.99 now

Actually just realised I was looking at the modem version. This is still live!

Marvellous! I was just about to press pay and it shot up to £199
Whoops I did the same. Still at £139 or £129 with code Enjoy £10 off any qualifying order of £50 or more with promo code BIGTHANKS (also works on Warehouse deal)

I have not tried it myself, but Voxel's firmware for the R7800 could work for you. It focuses on speed and CPU optimization for significantly faster OpenSSL/OpenVPN performance.

Sadly this deal has expired but I'm sure it'll show up again - set up a Camelcamelcamel alert.

http://forums.smallnetbuilder.com/threads/custom-firmware-build-for-r7800.36859/

​Thanks for that but I have decided to get my head around a pfsense built up box. For not much more than a good consumer router I can build one with much much more processing power than any router you can buy. It would be more configurable and very suitable for a VPN connection.

Would this badboy be suitable for 200mb Virginia fibre?