Just so everyone knows,
MS released a revised Surface Book, called Surface Book with Performance Base, which doubles the GPU power, and some other internals, around Oct 2016.
Unfortunately, it's only released in the US.
But it's rumoured to come in the UK soon.
This £999 version is the old 2015 version with Skylake.
Perhaps this is why there's the price drop, to make way for the updated version.
Unsure, but according to Microsoft's description it has an "Ultra-high-speed Full-size SD card reader" to add some storage that way. Whether it is truly ultra fast I cannot say.
misa426
24 Jan 17#6
I see now that Argos are also doing it at that price, which means you can get John Lewis to price match Argos and get the 3 year warranty included and £80 for added care if you want that, which would be an even better deal. Best to do it before Argos runs out of stock
UHS SD card - up to 30MB/s
HDD - around 100MB/s
Sata SSD - around 500MB/s
PCIe SSD - around 1.5GB/s+
fazzx
25 Jan 17#9
Purchased last week, best laptop I've had... 128gb is enough if you have a Nas or server..
SackCity to fazzx
25 Jan 17#24
128gb is very low for a laptop. I wouldn't even be able to backup my iphone on it.
Sp0oner
25 Jan 171#10
Same here and probably for a lot of people as the 256gb model has a dGPU. I'd much rather one of those than the surface pro. With the next gen versions due soon I expect Microsoft to drop prices to start shifting stock.
Triumerate
25 Jan 176#11
Just so everyone knows,
MS released a revised Surface Book, called Surface Book with Performance Base, which doubles the GPU power, and some other internals, around Oct 2016.
Unfortunately, it's only released in the US.
But it's rumoured to come in the UK soon.
This £999 version is the old 2015 version with Skylake.
Perhaps this is why there's the price drop, to make way for the updated version.
misa426 to Triumerate
25 Jan 17#28
The revised one is still on Skylake.
meherenow
25 Jan 17#12
I love and hate my Surface Book in equal measure.
It is an awesome buggy mess - inexplicably dropping the USB, even when connected to a powered hub. The Surface Dock is the same buggy mess. The SD card will disappear without warning and that has nothing to do with the dock!
Things like this amongst many other in the logs:
"The embedded controller (EC) did not respond within the specified timeout period. This may indicate that there is an error in the EC hardware or firmware or that the BIOS is accessing the EC incorrectly. You should check with your computer manufacturer for an upgraded BIOS. In some situations, this error may cause the computer to function incorrectly"
There's just nothing else like it though. Luckily I got a 3 year warranty from John Lewis so it WILL be going back at some point...
damn7547
25 Jan 171#13
Been hunting a new laptop since my kickstarter SuperBook has been delayed until July:(
Thinking this or the new Dell 13" XPS touchscreen to replace my 8 year old Macbook Pro
Any views on the Dell compared to this?
Exarch to damn7547
25 Jan 17#23
I send my Surface Book back and went with an XPS 13. I'm far happier with the Dell!
sprite127594
25 Jan 171#14
What is it that makes these good?
Genuine question as I don't know much about laptops, tablets etc but I just bought an acer notebook with an i5 6200u for £370 (acer swift 3) and just wondered how it compares to this?
Domislice to sprite127594
25 Jan 171#15
This is a much more premium product generally. Better design, premium build materials, higher quality screen, great battery, better keyboard, the screen is removable and functions as a tablet, it has advanced touchscreen functions, it's compact and it's light. If you had them side by side it would be clear which one is superior. It also has SSD storage as standard.
Mandroid578
25 Jan 171#16
Very Apple-y
sprite127594
25 Jan 17#17
My swift is all metal design, 14" IPS 1080p screen, light up keyboard and quality feel. 256gb SSD, 8gb RAM, fingerprint sensor, i5 6200u cpu.
Just ain't got touch screen. Just not seeing what the difference is for the extra £630.
Domislice
25 Jan 17#18
I doubt you paid £370 for a premium i5 laptop with a 256gb SSD. Where was it from?
sprite127594
25 Jan 17#19
Sorry meant to say I got it second hand. Only 3 weeks old though. But still can be got for £500 ish.
I'm not goading I just want to know if there was big performance increases somehow. Just got future reference when in the market.
Domislice
25 Jan 17#20
Second hand makes more sense, with the £370 price you gave I assumed the Swift 3 was a standard plastic laptop.
I think there's definitely a premium price for the Surface Book because it has features that are unique to it. The removable tablet screen could be a big deal if the versatility appeals to you and the touch screen features, particularly with the included pen, are meant to be excellent. Having now looked at some reviews for the Acer Swift 3 it is clearly positioned as an affordable Ultrabook for consumers who don't want to pay for a Surface Book or a Macbook so the RRP on the Swift is very competitive, particularly given Acer are so late to the party and are essentially copying other products. Judging by reviews I would still say some of the Swift 3 parts are meant to be slightly lower quality though; the metal casing is a bit more flimsy, the screen quality and resolution isn't as high and the battery is worse. These things may be insignificant to most people though.
sprite127594
25 Jan 171#21
Thanks. I suppose it's the same as everything. When you start going premium the price rockets for slight performance increases.
DavidP789
25 Jan 171#22
is it worth picking this up ? Any ideas on of
Microsoft will release an updated version with Kaby lake , thudberbolt ?
misa426
25 Jan 17#25
Amazon now £10 cheaper.
fazzx
25 Jan 17#26
Can't go wrong with either but personally don't like the look of the xps 13.
fazzx
25 Jan 171#27
true, for your only computer it's low but I've also got a high spec PC and nas, so it's OK for me.
jw021979
25 Jan 172#29
If you order thus from Microsoft and go via the O2 priority app you can also get an accessory bundle worth £274 for free.
misa426 to jw021979
26 Jan 17#30
Are you sure there's no £1500 minimum spend?
Picard123
26 Jan 171#31
I'm sure it's a nice laptop, but personally, I'd rather buy a HP X360 and save £350.....
Lefty
26 Jan 17#32
We have been issued these as work devices. Lovely premium feel, way too top heavy though, and forever tipping backwards.
blammo to Lefty
26 Jan 17#33
Thanks helpful to know, is that if you're using it on your lap or on a table/desk?
Lefty
26 Jan 17#34
fine on desk - more a problem on lap or footstool (as it often happens to be when I work at home).
blammo to Lefty
26 Jan 17#35
Do you ever use it with a dock? Do you know if the Microsoft one is any good? Reviews seem mixed to me
misa426
26 Jan 17#36
Yep Microsoft haven't quite mastered the "lapability" side.
meherenow
27 Jan 17#37
The dock is very poor. Always randomly dropping connections whether it is USB or ethernet. This is after numerous firmware updates as well.
kingofbeans
6 Feb 17#38
Expired. Hope it goes back to this price soon!
misa426
17 Feb 17#39
Those of you who got it while you did, lucky you. Seems Microsoft have increased prices on the Surface Books due to pound weakness against the dollar.
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I see now that Argos are also doing it at that price, which means you can get John Lewis to price match Argos and get the 3 year warranty.
http://www.argos.co.uk/product/5480656
http://www.johnlewis.com/microsoft-surface-book-intel-core-i5-8gb-ram-128gb-13-5-pixelsense-touch-screen-silver/p2525426
https://www.johnlewis.com/never-knowingly-undersold
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MS released a revised Surface Book, called Surface Book with Performance Base, which doubles the GPU power, and some other internals, around Oct 2016.
Unfortunately, it's only released in the US.
But it's rumoured to come in the UK soon.
This £999 version is the old 2015 version with Skylake.
Perhaps this is why there's the price drop, to make way for the updated version.
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http://www.argos.co.uk/product/5480656
http://www.johnlewis.com/microsoft-surface-book-intel-core-i5-8gb-ram-128gb-13-5-pixelsense-touch-screen-silver/p2525426
https://www.johnlewis.com/never-knowingly-undersold
HDD - around 100MB/s
Sata SSD - around 500MB/s
PCIe SSD - around 1.5GB/s+
MS released a revised Surface Book, called Surface Book with Performance Base, which doubles the GPU power, and some other internals, around Oct 2016.
Unfortunately, it's only released in the US.
But it's rumoured to come in the UK soon.
This £999 version is the old 2015 version with Skylake.
Perhaps this is why there's the price drop, to make way for the updated version.
It is an awesome buggy mess - inexplicably dropping the USB, even when connected to a powered hub. The Surface Dock is the same buggy mess. The SD card will disappear without warning and that has nothing to do with the dock!
Things like this amongst many other in the logs:
"The embedded controller (EC) did not respond within the specified timeout period. This may indicate that there is an error in the EC hardware or firmware or that the BIOS is accessing the EC incorrectly. You should check with your computer manufacturer for an upgraded BIOS. In some situations, this error may cause the computer to function incorrectly"
There's just nothing else like it though. Luckily I got a 3 year warranty from John Lewis so it WILL be going back at some point...
Thinking this or the new Dell 13" XPS touchscreen to replace my 8 year old Macbook Pro
Any views on the Dell compared to this?
Genuine question as I don't know much about laptops, tablets etc but I just bought an acer notebook with an i5 6200u for £370 (acer swift 3) and just wondered how it compares to this?
Just ain't got touch screen. Just not seeing what the difference is for the extra £630.
I'm not goading I just want to know if there was big performance increases somehow. Just got future reference when in the market.
I think there's definitely a premium price for the Surface Book because it has features that are unique to it. The removable tablet screen could be a big deal if the versatility appeals to you and the touch screen features, particularly with the included pen, are meant to be excellent. Having now looked at some reviews for the Acer Swift 3 it is clearly positioned as an affordable Ultrabook for consumers who don't want to pay for a Surface Book or a Macbook so the RRP on the Swift is very competitive, particularly given Acer are so late to the party and are essentially copying other products. Judging by reviews I would still say some of the Swift 3 parts are meant to be slightly lower quality though; the metal casing is a bit more flimsy, the screen quality and resolution isn't as high and the battery is worse. These things may be insignificant to most people though.
Microsoft will release an updated version with Kaby lake , thudberbolt ?
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/38993346?client=safari