That's 2 more sets of glasses than you'll need with this tv set...

Its in the 30's which isn't bad unless you are a really competitive gamer in which case you would be using a PC monitor with a 1ms response time, its worth a small amount of lag for the fantastic picture to be honest and after getting this TV I haven't had any trouble playing multiplayer COD.

A lot of Call of Duty games require low lag. They are rated 18+

​for gamers ...ok for us movie buffs

I got mine price matched at JL the day this was on stock.

Don't see the point in avoiding oled at this point. It's definitely the way forward. I really can't see myself buying lcd anymore.

Oled are better but for the people who can't afford the expensive technology Samsung have it

Yeah budget bands no doubt, they are making their LCD based screens brighter and brighter, but still poor compared with OLED.

Even Sony are making OLED now, Samsung will be left behind

Samsung have 2 of best tvs in 2 price bands.

Only to the uninformed :stuck_out_tongue:

Samsung are pretty good tv boyo :P

Samsung? lolz.

They're still desperately clinging onto LCD because they are cheap to make, even their new range of TV's are using LCD screens, adding some marketing bumpf (Quantum Dot, QLED) and charging OLED prices... and they have one of the worst customer services ever.

They also end support on old hardware far quicker than anyone else, at least LG are still improving previous years TV's (albeit after a little push), and adding features they could easily reserve for their newest line of sets

Just a heads up that the US site has the new update for this TV to deal with input lag, (the update i mentioned earlier in the thread)

Which includes a dedicated HDR gaming mode

it should be rolled out to UK in the next few days. (please don't try to flash your TV with the US version)


input lag with new firmware 4.30.77

https://mobile.twitter.com/rtingsdotcom/status/817028876325023744

1080p @ 60Hz : 27.6 ms
4k @ 60Hz : 27.8 ms
4k @ 60Hz + HDR : 28.5 ms

When I was looking at LG mid level sets about 16 months ago I remember the input lag was awful and I'm not sure if it had a proper game mode but if it did it was still quite high, something like 50ms plus which put me off as a big gamer and LG had the reputation then of not being gamer friendly generally. It does seem to be changing but I think you are right to be careful. There was an issue with an LG where the input lag went up considerably with a firmware update. It was mentioned on a gaming forum. May not have been a european model as I go to a lot of forums with US members too but it didn't help my impression that LG don't take gaming seriously with their tv's.[/quote]
No point mentioning it here, though. About this tv, that is. I gamed online (didn't choose a gaming mode) and it was fine. It's not setting records, but, it's ain't bad at all. If it feels close in performance to my plasma (24ms input lag), and I felt like I was besting people, it's doing well enough :smiley:

When I was looking at LG mid level sets about 16 months ago I remember the input lag was awful and I'm not sure if it had a proper game mode but if it did it was still quite high, something like 50ms plus which put me off as a big gamer and LG had the reputation then of not being gamer friendly generally. It does seem to be changing but I think you are right to be careful. There was an issue with an LG where the input lag went up considerably with a firmware update. It was mentioned on a gaming forum. May not have been a european model as I go to a lot of forums with US members too but it didn't help my impression that LG don't take gaming seriously with their tv's.

It's interesting that there are "older" people playing games, now.

Back when I was a kid, there is no way that either of my parents would play computer based games. Absolutely would not happen. In fact my parents wouldn't even know where to begin if they were presented with a computer game. It would be like asking someone who doesn't read Chinese Mandarin, to read Chinese Mandarin.

I'm 42 now and I do play computer games.
I think what has happened is that the newer generation grew up playing computer games, so continued playing (without any difficulty learning new games) and the trend continued regardless of age.

If my grandfather was still alive, at around 70, would he play computer games? Definitely not. Simply because his brain would not be capable of learning how to expertly control a computer, mouse, keyboard (or controller). However, for the generation who grew up playing computer games, playing games at 70 will be no problem. Sure, we won't be competitive at that age (as our reactions slow down due to old age, with arthritis kicking in), but we will be able to play and understand the concept of the latest games (in 30 years), so should not have the difficulty that my grandfather would've had.

Times have changed.

It doesn't sound snobby, it sounds like you are clueless.....

I'm 45. what has 18-22 got to do with it? That age are out with girlfriends and the lads, my age are married and look to something for happyness :smiley:

£200

Hi
I had a professional around after i tried different setting myself and the results are great.
You will always be thinking your picture should be better if you try yourself and for an extra £200 when spending this much on a tv in my opinion is a no brainer.

That's what I thought, but the person I was replying to says he has the set (perhaps he has another model?) and it doesn't suffer from high input lag in game mode now. I think there's some confusion about the issue, even amongst owners of LG OLEDs. It's a pity, as the update would be a huge selling point for many sitting on the fence, myself included, and LG have claimed to be working on it. I just can't buy a TV and hope though.

Your right, I had a few beers before I made that comment and was a bit quick to defend my purchase :smiley:

Actually, I'd argue that LG produce the most mediocre TVs of the big 4 (even though they make the most screens) - just look at the HDTVtest reviews and not one LG is highly recommended. It's not just the screen, it's the processing - that's why even though LG had the best quality screens in 2015 with the OLED range, they weren't the best TVs as the LG picture processing was a let down. Panasonic showed what they could do with their OLED TV which used a 2015 LG panel (but the cost was rediculous). Props to LG though - they piled in the money to fully develop OLED and succeeded where all the others failed.

At present I would say Samsung are the best overall brand as their TVs are great all through the range (the worst you can say is that some of their sets are overpriced and they have far too many different sets in the 6-series range), Panasonic probably make the best screens, but only at the top end - all the low and middle range sets are average. Sony are a solid performer at the mid and high end. Keep an eye on the Chinese though - they are where the Koreans were 10-15 years ago and improving rapidly.

No - there was a firmware update for the G6, E6 and C6 range but not the B6. The reason is that the B6 is the only set in the range that uses an LG-designed chip to control the set where as all the others use a 3rd party chip. To be honest, the odds of the B6 getting an update now seem pretty remote.

So, the B6 now has a dedicated HDR game mode that lowers input lag? Has this happened in the last few days?

Yep, a Samsung UE40B7020W. Probably not the absolute best value telly available at the time, but the LED backlight and the super thin design was appealing at the time.

You might not regret but its worth trying the settings video on AVForums first ... https://www.avforums.com/review/lg-b6-oled55b6v-uhd-4k-hdr-oled-tv-review.13023

I agree and my mention of Panasonic was meant to have given an indication of timescale since they've been an also-ran for quite sometime.

Sony is a funny situation though. People in their 60's still swear by them as if Japan was still the tech powerhouse of Asia. Sony, imo, haven't been in the running for ages. And having lived in Japan, the local think the brand is muck themselves.

However, while Samsung are fighting very hard against LG right now, they aren't winning. They're making workaround products. I went a little bit Samsung nuts when I kitted my place out a few years ago and now I can't wait to offload their stuff. Their hardware is exceptional, but customer experience via UI's is abysmal. I'm talking phone, watch, and TV. When this lot cycles out it will take something really special from them to bring me back.

Would you spend all day taking selfies with your mates and posting on instagram? You can bet the teens of now will still be doing that in their 40s.

You spent £1200 on a 40" LCD TV, in 2009?
I bought a 720p plasma, 42" back in 2008, for about £400. The 1080p plasma was around £800.

Definitely Samsung and LG are market leaders. Sony and Panasonic are basically reliant on other companies technology and buy in parts from other suppliers. Panasonic has recently withdrawn from the US market and there is no realistic chance of it re-entering it. It's really about the 2 big Korean companies and they buy all their SOC chips from mainly taiwanese companies and have their own technology manufactured in China anyway. The rest of the market is pretty much Chinese. There's Vestel in Turkey who have 20% of the European market and a small percentage of the international tv trade.

The Which reliability survey has Panasonic at no.1, then Sony and 3. LG so LG score higher in reliability than Samsung.

To be honest I just think of Samsung and LG as the best television manufacturers and don't really think about Sony and Panasonic anymore in the same way as 5 years ago. I would honestly see a Panasonic or Sony brand on a tv as inferior to LG or Samsung in technology but its clear their less advanced sets do have good reliability.

On the Which site pretty much all their top scoring tv's are Samsung and LG. You go a fair way down before a Sony or Panasonic makes an appearance.

I agree, 30ms is very good and more than likely unnoticeable.

You have mixed up response time with input lag though: http://www.displaylag.com/exposed-input-lag-vs-response-time/

Even the best (lcd) monitors don't have a 1ms input lag, more like 10ms.

Sadly, no. But, I did get to try Sky and that seemed to look fine. Nothing remarkable, but certainly nothing bad. We sat and watched The Jungle Book film (2016) and that looked pretty good. A bit soft in places, but otherwise, nice.

Just YouTube the TV set see if avforums have done a calibration video. I used their one for my Samsung and the picture is now class. Perfect colours infact 6500k

Hahaha you must be 60+ . No one who plays games can afford this sort of tv lol I'm far richer than youuuuuuuuuu

It's not oled, oled is the future!!!

30's is fine for most. Yeah I'd notice the difference but you learn to compensate. Think my Sammy gets about 22ms and I noticed a huge difference between that and the 50ms of my old Panny plasma.

99% of people won't care though.

Worth mentioning I had my gaming PC set up with this LGTV around a mate's house to see what 4k was like, even on PC or game mode the lag was unbearable for some reason, yet tolerable on PS4.

Unless you have your eyes pressed against the screen you won't notice much in terms of input lag at 30ms. I remember a few years back when 30ms was considered to be excellent.

Only Sony get below 20ms afaik.

The LG OLED's are the best sets at the min especially for existing plasma owners

Ignore the troll;

The average age of UK gamers is 34, proabbly just jealous that an old fogey like him is approaching retirement before they can consider dropping decent money on a TV...

​yeah, I have one and initially the TV wouldn't display my ps4 pro, so I had to manually adjust the resolution and HDR mode. I have since returned the resolution settings on the ps4 pro back to default and now running on correct resolution & correct HDR mode.

Did John Lewis price match?

I'm a 37 year old playing "children's games" too on my PS4 Pro on my 4K TV.

I'm a gamer and an adult, my 'main' TV cost just under £3,000.

The TV I want is - 55" flat screen (bigger will look daft), webos, passive 3d, playstation now, OLED, surpass HDR premium with 1000+nits brightness, legs that are in the middle of the set, not the end and come in at under £2k.
Wake me up when that happens.

Looking forward to see what Sony can do with LGs OLED panels, they'll probably stick android on it with a mediatek chip which'll be a shame.

Have they released the update for the B6 model yet though? Last I heard was that they had done so for the C6, E6 and G6, but there was no ETA on a game mode for this model, just that they were planning to release a similar update at some point.

Gone back up to £1799

I've tried all the settings that came with it, Evo was the best and was default, it had Game, Movie, Sport, few others and 2 HDR's, but none of them could eliminate ghosting on sd channels, considering the small room, I had to give it back. But black was really good, it was as if it was off.

I would have gone with OLED if they only had any around 43" to 47" but all start from 55" and above. Does anyone know why they don't produce OLED in 43" size or under 50"?

I would say just wait to see what's mentioned at CES 2017, Sony & Panny will have there OLED Tv's there and should be released later this year.

The C6 is the curved TV with 3D and is said to have a better processor then the B6, also don't believe the new firmware update for game mode has been released yet on the B6.

It's not snobby, it's just ignorant. The leaders used to be Sony, who then got trumped by Samsung and Panasonic. LG have come out of nowhere and blown them all to bits with their OLED tech. Not to mention WebOS **** all over the other companies pathetic OS attempts. My Samsung has been amazing, but it doesn't come close to this. Just take a walk into Currys/JL and pick your jaw up off the floor.

Someone needs educating on the fastest growing and one of the biggest entertainment industry's in the world...

nearly bought thinking its lightning deal for £149.99 :wink:

What are you talking about? Not sure if you're just ignorant or actually stupid. Or perhaps the third option is you're just bitter that some people know what they enjoy and aren't afraid to do it despite the misconceptions peddled by out of touch know-it-all's such as yourself.

​im manchester thanks for 9r info

Poor sausage - living in the 80's must be hard :wink:

AVERAGE AGE OF GAMER....

I see we got yet another HDR standard (Active HDR) announced by LG and Techicolor today to throw into the mix! update the 4k bingo cards!

Vincent Teoh seems to offer pro-calibration services, he's also the creator of HDTVTest website, and his twitter account has lots of post-calibration screenshots, mainly of LG OLEDs which he rates very highly. Based in Manchester.

https://twitter.com/Vincent_Teoh

If it was 10 years ago I'd agree with you. In these times however, LG are at the cutting edge. I don't see any OLEDS from the big brands of yesteryear. Sony, Panasonic, JVC, Hitachi, Toshiba, Sharp........(I know that Panasonic did buy an LG OLED and add there own processing.)

Getting back to LG, I've 2 LG Plasma's still going strong after 7 & 5 years.

It leaves you 2 choices. Pay the money for cutting edge or pay almost the same for inferior tech with a yesteryear badge. As these TV's tend to come with a 5 year warranty, I know where I will be putting my money.

Yeovil deal gone. Southampton have an "open box" item for £1599 but "you takes your chances" with this item. At that price I would rather wait post CES and expect prices to fall further. By the way RS will price beat PRC by £20 so £1679 seems to be best available price at moment. Keep watching punters!!

If you buy this or any other "high end" TV would suggest you get a professional calibrator in. If you go to AV Forums and search for recognised calibrators you will find a list. Do a search on a name or names in your area and then approach asking if they have experience of calibrating your TV. Price should be ~ £250, travel included. Don't bother trying to calibrate yourself using a DVD...pay a professional with high end calibration equipment...you wont regret it!!

What's involved? Is it good enough to watch a youtube vid and adjust the settings as per, or do I need to get someone in to adjust the settings? How much do the pro calibrators charge?

Ex-Display 55E6V (the one with 3D and soundbar) for £2199 at the same store

http://www.sevenoakssoundandvision.co.uk/p-9908960-lg-oled55e6v-55-4k-uhd-oled-tv-flat.aspx

Too much for what is a 2nd hand TV but nice to see prices going in the right direction.

Aww bless, another idiot posing as an adult on a deals forum...

Did you manage to try standard def say on freeview?

Talking about wrinkles what about the old foggies on The Grand Tour. Look terrible on my Sony 4K

​ not on game mode. P.s. LG have released an update since the launch of ps4 pro which sorts out the resolution & HDR mode

I'm also interested in the pro calibration process please

Hoping for similar but with it being slightly faster for gaming. 8k is just silly at the moment, but interested to see Non glasses 3D.

My Samsung 4k hdr has 19 milliseconds in game mode

had an email of samsung saying they have got a very specail tv at ces

excited as there not making oled

So how many milli seconds now?

:laughing:

No Onkyo for you then!

Ditto. Been waiting for the 65 to go sub 2K, but now I'll just wait to see what comes out of CES.

​i know LG did run out a firmware update for some of their oled/HDR tvs but no one really knows which models benefitted from it, fwiw.

​Haha Antiques Roadshow in 4k to see all the pentioners wrinkles is well better than games like Battlefield 1 :laughing:

I had the chance to use my parents' LG oled55b6v, and ​I'm afraid our experience is hugely different to your 'c' model. After a calibration via Audio forums, we ran 4k blurays on it and it looked great. Even 1080p upscaled from Amazon Prime video looked excellent and somewhat close to 4k. We also watched some full 4k Phantom 4 Drone footage on the tv, too, and that was very nice (I used non-stock settings).

For the gamers, yes, it's not amazingly fast for gaming, but, I did remarkably well in Rainbow Six: Siege, that it didn't seem too noticeable. Though, it is slightly slower than our own plasma. And coming from a decent Panasonic plasma, the blacks are amazingly black on this display. Overall, it's a stunning set and I would 100% recommend it. Wish I could afford one!

Well I want to game so its pretty important!

Im very tempted, this is cheaper for me in the long run. Panny plasma goes upstairs and this for the living room. Better than £700 of a 65 lcd then £900 on an oled when they drop. Hmmm

It's only a letter in between an easy mistake to make. Still relevant and hope someone finds feedback useful.

​hes confused! he purchased a bush 4k for £299 @argos

I've had this since June and not suffered from lag issues when gaming.
Great TV especially after pro calibration.

Sorry guys am mixing letter B with C in the model, mine was OLED55C6V.

Good price, wonder how low these will go; I would be happy with the non 4k model so on the lookout for a good deal on that one - ideally £800 - £850 with 5 yrs warranty though with the recent sterling devaluation that could be unrealistic now.

At the risk of being a bit snobby it's still a lot of money for something that starts off with LG written on it.......just sayin......:smiley:

But this TV is not 3D at all .. think you're mixing up the model.

suffers from high input lag.

Not sure why you would be receiving 2 pairs of 3D glasses with a TV with no 3D support; are you talking about the same model?. LG don't have the best in class upscaling but the real issue is OLED is too unforgiving with poor source material. Callibration does make a big difference though. As for the comment about 4K looking like 1080p - something is clearly wrong with that.

Oh I don't know an occasional 3D movie with a fmaily of say four.

Ffs who lives in Yeovil

That's 2 more sets of glasses than you'll need with this tv set...

Returned this to Currys which I picked up for £1575.00, up scale is very poor bloated images on sd channels, 1080p on this is like sd, and 4k is like 1080p, unless you can get lots of 4k content not a good choice, with LG known for poor support and am not a fan of webos. And someone has said lags too, and you need the remote to bring it out of standby, switching on devices didn't do it.

These where going for over £2200 before sale and such a large TV you only get 2 3D glasses not good for a family.

Currys support was amazing though and they took it back and issued full refund :smiley:

My search goes on and will not buy above 43".

This shop is just down the road from the office and I'd love this telly, but really must resist. Bought last telly ("40 LED/LCD Samsung) back in 2009 for £1200 so really don't want to spend more than that.

£49 more at Amazon than other Sevenoak stores
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B01EBXEPVG/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1483397924&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=lg+oled55b6v&dpPl=1&dpID=41q1BkkXChL&ref=plSrch

Expect the replacement sets to be announced at CES over the next few days. Heat for this deal, but expect this price to become standard over the next few weeks.

Want the 65 inch sadly, otherwise I would have given in. CES 2017 is right around the corner and with new TVs being announced, prices for last years will drop slowly. But mega heat for this price. Nice set indeed.

If you don't live in Yoevil
http://www.sevenoakssoundandvision.co.uk/p-26071-lg-oled55b6v.aspx

Latest firmware update on these sets has added Game mode.

This was on AV Forums and Over Clockers Forums a day or two back. Getting JL to price match has had varied success, I don't believe this had collection only yesterday, I could be wrong.

Hopefully it gets a JL or Richer Sounds price match.

That may be, but come on, how many 18 to say 22 year olds who primarily still live with parents are going to be buying £1500 TVs for their bedrooms?

Awww

A lot of Call of Duty games require low lag. They are rated 18+

Ah, okay, I just assumed any adults buying a £1500 high end TV wouldn't really be bothered about it's ability to display children's games.

​So it will be no good for fast paced games (if that's true), he's just letting everyone know that important info if that's OK with you.

Sky Q Wotsit you say' I'm in :man:

Saw this today on Pricespy and visited local John Lewis who price matched for £1499. Cant complain for an OLED tv at this price..... Almost at the end of Price match now.

Oops, didn't spot the 'Yeovil' bit when I posted - thanks to the Mod for correction.

Just sent a price match request for John Lewis but not sure they will as its collection only but worth a try. As Yeovil a good 150 miles away for me.

Oh. That's tempting. Anyone got one if these? Would be interested in a real-world opinion!

Damn! Hot! I need this....

Cheapest price so far. Hot