This is a nice phone for the money. My opinion after comparing it to a Xiaomi mi5:

Worse camera than a mi5 (but better than a Redmi note 3)
slightly faster than a mi5 when opening apps
even though the battery is 500mah bigger I found battery life to be almost identical.
Screen is on the warm side and not quite as nice as the mi5. Perfectly fine though
zui is a lighter skin than miui, it multi tasks better, it has fewer options and unlike miui I didn't find any bugs. I tried the international, indian and Chinese rom. I found the indian rom to be the best, there's no Chinese language or bloatware and it gets more regular ota updates than the international.
I thought I wouldn't like the unusual single button layout but it works really nicely and it's quick to get used to. Apple could definitely learn from this.

My only real problem with it is finger sensitivity, even running nova launcher on the most relaxed setting the screen flicks and scrolls away very quickly, if you are used to apple style finger sensitivity you are in for a shock. You could probably get used to it but the mi5 was way better for me in this regard. This and the camera/screen swung it for me and I chose the mi5.

I loaded a custom ROM in my phone just last week and here's the steps and the pitfalls you need to avoid:

This is the guide I used: http://zukfans.eu/community/threads/zuk-z2-bootloader-unlock.62/

So grab your phone S/N, install ADB and Fastboot on your PC, and install the Google and ZUK drivers.

Things to note:
If you're on Windows 8/10, you might have issues with driver signing enforcement. Bizzarely the drivers from Lenovo for the ZUK are unsigned and Windows does not like that. So you might need to disable this function. Thankfully, it's rather painless. http://www.howtogeek.com/167723/how-to-disable-driver-signature-verification-on-64-bit-windows-8.1-so-that-you-can-install-unsigned-drivers/

Now to unlock the bootloader. You'll need to go to http://developer.zuk.com/bootloader but first you'll need to register to the site. I'm assuming that you're not in China or have a chinese SIM lying around so you'll need to register using email, which can be done here: https://passport.zuk.com/wauthen3/wauth/jsp/register.jsp?lenovoid.action=uilogin&lenovoid.realm=www.zuk.com&lenovoid.ctx=JTJGc3RvcmUlMkZ6Y29kZSUyRmluZGV4LmpodG1sJTNGbnVsbA&lenovoid.lang=null&lenovoid.uinfo=null&lenovoid.cb=http://www.zuk.com/login/logincallback.jhtml&lenovoid.vb=null&lenovoid.display=null&lenovoid.idp=null&lenovoid.source=browser:m.zuk.com?lenovoid.action=uilogin&lenovoid.realm=www.zuk.com&lenovoid.ctx=JTJGc3RvcmUlMkZ6Y29kZSUyRmluZGV4LmpodG1sJTNGbnVsbA&lenovoid.lang=null&lenovoid.uinfo=null&lenovoid.cb=http://www.zuk.com/login/logincallback.jhtml&lenovoid.vp=&lenovoid.display=null&lenovoid_idp=null&lenovoid.source=browser:m.zuk.com&lenovoid.thirdname=null&lenovoid.qrstate=null

Once you register, fill in the bootloader unlock form and you'll get an email with some Chinese writing, this is unimportant. Look at the attachment to that email and you'll find a unlock_bootloader.img file. Download it and you're in business.

Now I ran into trouble sending fastboot commands to my phone, just wouldn't be detected for some reason, no clue why. But I found this tool by mauronofrio: https://forum.xda-developers.com/zuk-z2-pro/development/tool-tool-one-driversunlocktwrpfactory-t3432782 - works like a charm, you can use it to unlock the bootloader and then install TWRP on your phone.

Once you have TWRP then you can install whatever ROM that tickles your fancy, no problem. Personally I'm running Resurrection Remix by fedor917 https://forum.xda-developers.com/zuk-z2-pro/development/6-0-1-unofficial-resurrection-remix-t3504145 I tried CM14.1 but it's not stable enough for me and I much prefer RR. Plus it's Marshmallow so xposed works fine on it and plenty other stuff that hasn't reached Nougat yet. I really want Nougat-based Resurrection Remix on this phone and I've been working at porting it, but it's the first time I do this so it's quite a steep learning curve.

To unlock bootloader
http://zukfans.eu/community/threads/zuk-z2-bootloader-unlock.62/

To get TWRP
https://twrp.me/devices/zukz2.html
Follow the Fastboot install method

To get Mokee
https://download.mokeedev.com/?device=z2
Install this via TWRP

Done.

If you like big screen phones
The best phone Now is Samsung Note 4 you can get up to £300 for new / nearly new or used less 200
This my opinion Why get cheap chines phones with no updates etc
Get 2 Years old phone with all best hardware at this time It is still going strong and will be for another couple years
Got everything what other phones now do not have

I have dropped accidentally from 2 Meter high on tiles and I have marks on frame the screen is top quality very hard to break compare to new phones likes S7 or S6 or note 5 Anyway you can buy frame for £10 and double side tape and replace the frame and will be like new again

Now do same thing with new glass phones you drop game over shattered Battery can not replace the screen curved and so easy to crack

In the royal mail link above, enter your tracking number then, click button:
where has my item been?

Mine says:
on its way to delivery office 11.45am

Code KIMOVILZUK works now

Houston, the eagle has landed.

07/02/17 19:34 ARRIVED IN THE UK HEATHROW WORLDWIDE DC

https://www.royalmail.com/track-your-item

I keep this as reference, thanks. I decided i wait and see if the Indian ROM gets upgraded to 7. When it's stopped supported (6 months time I bet) I will try mokee, hopefully it be release mode by then and not nightlies or what ever is sooner. Just don't fancy bricking it in a few days of ownership lol :smile:

Did you try easy install via TWRP (which is much better than CWM imho) and a must for flashing and maintenance, as said in post #255?

dolanduck:

"

dolanduck5 days, 6 minutes ago 4 Likes #255
Nocturnalizer
Is there any easy to follow guide for installing Mokee? It's been quite a while since I did any messing with a custom rom, and while I could handle it fine then, a guide would be useful now!

To unlock bootloader
http://zukfans.eu/community/threads/zuk-z2-bootloader-unlock.62/

To get TWRP
https://twrp.me/devices/zukz2.html
Follow the Fastboot install method

To get Mokee
https://download.mokeedev.com/?device=z2
Install this via TWRP

Done.
"

Okay elTuco, i'll give it a go when I get a chance. Many thanks!

maybe try the unbrick proc dolanduck linked ?

http://www.gizbeat.com/11283/hs-usb-qdloader-9008-how-to-unbrick-and-flash-your-zuk-z2-and-any-qualcomm-phone-with-miflash/

Installed Mokee and TWRP and I have now been stuck with the TWRP bootloop. Looked on the internet for a solution. Does anyone have a definitive answer? Any advice would be grateful!

Is there a easy guide on installing Mokee 7.1.1? please

Mine is the same, feeling better that I am not alone at the moment.

Same here mate, just sent them a query via "my orders" section in their android app today, asking what's going on?

Did anyone who ordered on the 14th of January get their phone? My order hasn't been updated since 27.01 when it said 'The consignment has left the origin border point.'

Upgraded from Moto E (2nd gen) - this thing is pretty fast

Hi,

To anyone receiving this and looking for a good screen protector and case combo;

Buy the Amzer Matte case on Amazon and Brotect Airglass, it covers the whole screen so no gaps or edges. Don't buy a third party unbranded tempered glass, they don't cover the whole screen and are ugly :disappointed:

​I have had zero issues with Indian rom. I get all day battery with 6 plus hours sot so can't complain. I always use nova launcher too. Not sure what extra I would gain with nougat to be honest.

i havent tried as stuck the indian rom on, but on my moto e I noticed whatapps dected a custom rom so I reckon it might not work as the bootloader is unlocked. need to get the other chap (dolanduck?) to see if it works.

Nice zip file in mediafire link (in article & youtube description blurb) with drivers installer, miflash and adb setup.

Good unbrick resource too, might need to unbrick this phoe too, hehe. Thanks.

Ok i just installed the indian rom via these links below, as it came with a custom factory rom with no ota abilities and was unstable see dev options issue:

written instructions

http://www.gizbeat.com/11283/hs-usb-qdloader-9008-how-to-unbrick-and-flash-your-zuk-z2-and-any-qualcomm-phone-with-miflash/

you tube vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iinsQCuZr9Q&feature=youtu.be

indian rom (use this instead of the chinese rom in the links above)

http://zukfans.eu/community/threads/z2plus-zui-2-0-093_st_16081.763/

Only issues I had was that the dev options kept on disappearing on the shop rom, had to keep tapping to get it back after exiting menus. I had to revoke usb debugging authorizations then unplug the phone and replug it back into the pc to get adb to detect it, a prompt then came up on the phone screen to allow connection etc. any issues ping me a msg on here and I can help

Just tested the indian rom and it is okay.

​May have to try it. Though it's not worked on a couple of Chinese phones and a few custom roms that were not rooted. Barclays app is sooo picky!

Mokee via dev options you can turn off root. by default root is off.

Any chance you could try installing barclays bank app for me and see if it lets you begin setup? It will say phone rooted or such if not compatible.

omg this phone is badass, just got home and it was there. playing with it now. came with a chinese version of the rom of sort but can't see ota on it.

Nice short references, thanks.

Also if some of you come across probs, read this useful post by fs39 too:

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/lenovo-zuk-z2-5-0-inch-4gb-ram-64gb-rom-snapdragon-820-2-15ghz-quad-core-4g-smartphone-2597715?p=29839371

Lovely, thanks!

To unlock bootloader
http://zukfans.eu/community/threads/zuk-z2-bootloader-unlock.62/

To get TWRP
https://twrp.me/devices/zukz2.html
Follow the Fastboot install method

To get Mokee
https://download.mokeedev.com/?device=z2
Install this via TWRP

Done.

Is there any easy to follow guide for installing Mokee? It's been quite a while since I did any messing with a custom rom, and while I could handle it fine then, a guide would be useful now!

​Yep, went for Mokee and paid, my phone just updates in seconds every morning and I don't have to connect it to a laptop or anything, too drawer :smile:

A tip too; download Open Camera, makes it much better and you can tweak it until it's to your liking, the stock camera apps on custom roms are nothing short of abhorrent :laughing:

Glad I could help :smiley:

Fancy the mokee rom myself but I am used to having my barclays app on my phone now and that doesn't usually work on a custom rom even if not rooted.

Thanks mate. I was settling on Mokee too due to good reports. I assume you went for Mokee too. The $5 one-off payment for OTA would be well worth the time of regular flashing updates manually. Still waiting for phone.

In my experience too custom ROMs camera hacks are difficult too. Often an app turns out to be the answer. Not too picky with cam as have better cams on other phone. Very grateful for your briefing of update options on Mokee and RR, saves quite a few of us research and time. Thanks again. :smiley:

​Yes, bootloader must be unlocked before anything like this can happen as you need a custom recovery to do this. The process is very easy however, doesn't differ from any other adb bootloader unlock.

If you know how to do this and are familiar with adb etc. I strongly recommend you flash Mokee or RR. ZUI has incorporated NONE of the Nougat benefits.

​Hi, yeah it is best to get someone else to flash but only if they don't like the standard ROM (provided its not malware filled), as most users won't get the benefits root, adb etc. bring when flashing new roms.

Unfortunately RR must be fully flashed each update. It's not official RR, so no OTA or anything, just hosted on a regular download site. But I'd say RR has much more discussion around it since the developer is actively involved with the community, so perhaps if you'd want peace of mind or have your bugs addressed more directly RR is the way to go.

Mokee has OTA updates, no need to flash full ROM. You can donate 5 dollars to get OTA on your phone or you can get the OTA on the site and manually flash. I donated tbh, not a lot of money and I'm too busy to be bothered with the hassle. Works well though, incremental updates are small and easier to flash and I've the whole process is automated, no need to manually enter recovery or whatnot and no loss of data :smiley:

I will prob stick with the Indian rom if it has ota or flash to the correct Indian rom if it doesn't. I am currently using a 1st gen moto e with mokee 7 as my main phone is in for repair. It's fairly stable so might put mokee on the z2 if I can figure it out.

Did you have to unlock the bootloader to stick mokee on it?

I say to noobs, get a techie friend to flash Mokee or RR, maybe wait till one is RC or FR status first. MAybe cook him a meal too :smile:


Thanks dolanduck, nice report.

It's a pain to flash ROMs if they keep changing before becoming RC or FR. Have to backup then restore apps+data with titanium after each.

Are any of Mokee or RR nightlies able to flash incrementally a file or OTA so one does not have to backup & restore apps/data every time?

I got stock Indian with OTA updates, but still replaced.





Mokee and RR 7.1.x are stock Android ROMS with multiple enhancements, much more frequent updates, better CPU speed and management, better everything really. They are usually more buggy than the official roms, but the release candidate roms are fine. Both are in nightly status, but release readiness is approaching quickly, with 95% of features fine. Expandable notifications, quick replies and Nougat specific improvements are all in RR and Mokee, whereas ZUI has not implemented either which is baffling. ZUI is also buggy even though it is official, I actually think RR is the most stable, but Mokee is officially supported so I'm on that. I may switch to RR if it reaches release candidate before Mokee. One thing I like about Mokee is how the u-touch button is implemented, used to open menus, swipe to multitask etc. Little functionality has been lost and way more has been gained in the custom roms. Unless you are an average user and are happy with ZUI, there is literally no reason to be stuck on ZUI.

One negative; the camera is ass on both roms and will likely be ass until both are in the final release status. Camera API's are hard to work with on any phone and rarely do custom roms match the original rom. If camera really really matters, then I guess stick to ZUI. But if you can wait and want to gain infinitely more Western Market friendly UI, pick Mokee or RR. Preference is yours.

Deffo a vendor rom which has same code as indian rom. No ota on it so you know its not real indian rom. Not sure about bootloader as I juts installed official indian rom soon as I realised. It does look like a sealed box but they have just re sealed it.

Thank you dolanduck, but how do Mokee or RR 7.1.x compare to the indian rom that everybody talks about?

do we know if banggood put a vendor rom on shipped devices? if yes I assume they have unlocked the bootloader? thanks, charlie

If you have no technical knowledge, you probably will find ZUI to be adequate tbh. Especially if you're just your normal user, there is no need to fiddle with custom roms. However, if your phone comes with a vendor rom (a rom the store has put on), then I'm afraid you will HAVE to go through the process of putting the official rom on, since vendor roms contain malware, don't receive updates and can even brick phones.

Don't worry about it just yet, get the phone and see how you feel about the user experience, if you like it then don't bother. I didn't, so I changed.

For someone who is a simpleton with regard to phones, is there much benefit in installing this mokee ROM over whatever's on the phone when it arrives (considering I don't really know what a new ROM means or how to install it)

Mine has just turned up. Can't wait to have a fiddle with it!

mines at the delivery office as well, hopefully today or tomorrow :smiley:

Rastafari is the almighty.

looks like it's going to be delivered today. at my local delivery office at 6:30 this morning

Thanks mate.

Just for anyone receiving these;

Tested out all ROMS available, viable daily driver ready ones anyway, and the best to install are either Mokee or RR 7.1.x by davidevinavil

Both are slowly but surely reaching "RELEASE" readiness, with Mokee being the closer. Also, stick to the Mokee 7 nightlies, don't bother with the Marshmallow release as there are still a few annoying bugs that oddly aren't present on Mokee 7. The developer for RR updates regularly too and has added many useful features to the phone. Both are a stock Android experience.

I would NOT go with CM13 or Fedors RR Rom or the Unofficial Lineage OS as they're buggier than the above.


MOKEE: https://download.mokeedev.com/?device=z2

RR: http://zukfans.eu/community/threads/7-1-x-z2-unofficial-resurrectionremix-by-davidevinavil.3847/
(Download link for RR is in OP, latest one)

Have fun :smile:

​cheers mate .. mine is same as yours now.. arrived in UK

2017-01-31 11:30 GBLALA, Arrival at border point in the destination country
2017-01-31 09:20 GBLALA, Arrival at border point in the destination country
2017-01-24 16:54 Asendia Hong Kong, The consignment has left the origin border point
Shipped Date: 2017-01-12 22:10:27

The 2 screen protectors i linked in this thread, arrived in a sturdy box, they are hard almost like glass, most impressive

Same, no change since jan27 left origin border, going thu transit stages, if not landed already, will be in UK in ~24 to 48hours

​ tracking still the same. not yet landed in uk.. how about yours?

​tracking still the same. but yet landed in uk.. how about yours??

​Ahh thanks, I've gone with the nightlies since I found the release Marshmallow unstable regardless, may as well have the latest features but thanks :smile:

I figured as much. Phone is working great so far, but if it ever does pack in I'll just have to accept that as a loss. It's a very nice phone for not too much money, so isn't too bitter a pill to swallow if that happens.

Yes this was cheaper by far. My topcashback tracked too, cost £126 in the end using the discount code on page 1 in OP, later code not first one. Never send anything back to china as has to be: registered mail which costs A LOT & whoever it is, even when they receive it and sys shows signed for, they claim they never got it and paypal does not help, they all do this even honest(ish) ones. Basically sending stuff back to china is losing money twice. Its just a gamble. If anything pricey from china is dodgy or broken, credit card's claim dept is best hope.

Yeah, I think I would've got one from aliexpress if they'd had the same discount that banggood had (they might have it now). I'm happy overall, although I think having to send the phone back under warranty for any problems would be a bit worthless really.

I'm gonna test the phone for a couple of days to make sure it is OK + gauge performance to compare with later roms. Indian noug should be out by then, might give it a go for ac ouple of days too. But prob will settle for mokee latest stable and port apps with titanium pro.

Whatever, will install nova, should work with home button utouch gestures, can not afford to have softkeys for home/menu/back on 5" screen, used to 5.5" screen acreage already which will continue to use too. Then keeping an eye out to see if anything stable wil beat mokee in amonth or two.

I dont think there was a particular order, they send them out in batches. Some ppl who ordered later got theirs but others here who ordered a week or longer before them (all free shipping) are still waiting. I assume they sent the lot on first day of hols 27th jan as all seem to track left origin border. Chaotic order of dispatch.

Yeah banggood is much better than gearbest which basically in my experience rips you off 20 to 25% of the time by sending broken item or dollar adapter in box instead of whatever or lost or etc etc. aliexpress is also good as is only middleman (bigger than amazon net worth: alibaba) holding payment to sellers shop till one gets it.

Are you going for the Nougat version of that? (assuming one exists). I've been thinking of doing the same. I don't mind the Indian ROM but if I can get something closer to stock Android I'd definitely prefer that.

To be honest, I actually wasn't even aware that the faster shipping would've gotten it to me faster! I was reading about the Chinese New Year coming up and I just figured mine would get stuck with everyone else's, whether they took the faster shipping or not. So I'm quite pleased that it did come through quickly, but I'm really hoping you guys get yours soon. At least we know Bang Good is pretty reliable (despite having a slightly dubious name, ahem).

like i said a few days ago, prob gonna stick mokee on it, not gonna bother with nightles, life is too short, will go for a stable, not gonna bother with xposed etc either, works with uTouch:

https://download.mokeedev.com/?device=z2

http://zukfans.eu/community/threads/official-mokee-roms.1005/

https://forum.xda-developers.com/zuk-z2-pro/how-to/mokee-60-1-zuk-z2-pro-t3425886

http://zukfans.eu/community/tags/mokee-602/

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=zuk+z2+mokee

I bought a micro usb to type-C adapter so I can use my other quality chargers and any usb cable/device I want, for 50p, not arrived yet.

I bought a usb to type-c short cable which is top quality and is OTG which lets me add devices, mouse keyboard harddisk etc etc, to my phone for about £2 8 days ago, arrived yesterday. Oozes quality.

I bought a nice type-c mini SD-Card reader for £2.40 8 days ago too and arrived already too, lets me plug in SD-Cards to swap data, tis tiny and niceee.

bought a nice flip cover leather case 8 days ago too and tracking shows it landed at heathrow yesterday.

All from china, have to be careful with choosing male/female options. Anyone wants links for any of above, specify which one and i'll dig it up.

Not yet but aftership is jumping more and more to royalmail tracking, unavailable details, which in my experience means the plane has landed or is in a transit airport in europe. Sundays, they are not updated as fast. I think tomorrow will show new details.

What ROM have people installed? I'm on Mokee nightlies, things are smooth and the benchmark score is 148k, madness. Still some minor bugs but

USB C Cable Kinps Nylon Braided USB Type C Charger Cable https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B019DRKWU8/

I own this and use it for my OnePlus 3 at work for 4 months or something like that. Doesn't support Dash charging, but does support 2.4 amp regular charging.

It's a long, thick, quality cable, which everyone enjoys right?

Ordered 2017-01-17
2017-01-26 18:36 Asendia Hong Kong, The consignment has left the origin border point

is urs saying arrived in uk ?
mine is still the same

24.01.2017 16:54 The consignment has left the origin border point Asendia Hong Kong

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01JRY0VE4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

i have bought these, havnt used them yet as the phone is yet to arrive. But looks very well made, thicker than a average cable.

Anyone recommend somewhere to buy some decent USB C cables? I could do with having 5 or 6 of them between home, work, cars etc.

hehe, just having fun with a few of them mate, you Util fs39 and loads of great folk here.

I think the batch is being moved from heathrow (Langley) to post office depots to be sorted tomorrrows and should start deliveries Tuesday onwards.

​thanks God i have saved those links already .. lol .. btw ordered 10 still not here.. will post here once received

While Nocturnalizer who kindly responded he got his via DHL choosing expedited shipping, others who received theirs by normal free option, do not have the time to say how they got theirs. However I think it is by Royal Mail as the aftership tracker "sometimes" jumps to royal mail from swiss post since this morning but says tracking not available yet. I think this means the last batch leaving China on Friday has landed in UK and will be going to post depos and delivered within the next few days.

I came across some interesting resources about Z2, but like our "certain friends" who could not be bothered to type a couple of words, I might not have time (which takes quite longer) to dig the links up and post them, either. :smile: Also deleted my many resources links post on page3 in their honour. :smirk:

If it comes via DHL expect invoice for custom charges a few weeks later.

Ordered around 10th or 11th - still not received it yet - hopefully arrives soon.

I have to say, this is a lovely phone. Very fast in opening apps, all operations feel smooth and buttery. ZUI isn't great but easy enough to deal with, and helped a tad with something like Nova Launcher. U-Touch is surprisingly effective once you get used to how strange it is to navigate your way around with one button.

I wish the experience was closer to stock Android (and I can always flash a custom rom if I'm really hurting for that), but for £160 I'm damn impressed with the tech you get here.

​Yeah, it was with the faster shipping method.

I think the batch shipped on Friday will be delivered from Tuesday to Saturday, probably wed-thur-Fri.

Everyone got theirs with DHL too?

Thanks mate. I did not choose expedited shipping but free shipping. Was your order with free shipping option or faster paid shipping?

You can track on Swiss post site or Swiss section of after ship:

https://www.aftership.com/courier/swiss-post

on another zuk z2 thread someone mentioned if you get stung with custom charges with DHL you can send them a particular letter to sort out the issue, has anyone got this particular letter or the wording?

I think he paid extea for EMS , express mail. unless they upgraded the order for free due to the Chinese New Year holiday.

EMS is 7-15 days

Free is 7-20 days

​Mine came with DHL.

​I normally used Singapore Post or Flyt Express. The one in the screenshot is Singapore Post.

Those who got this, were these delivered by:

Royal mail?
Parcel Force?
DHL?
another?

:confused:

Which website do you use for tracking?

​man that was quick .. i ordered on 10th still in transit .. lol

Sure! Ordered the phone on the 17th from Bang Good, here's the tracking on it. I can't knock it - much faster than I thought it would be.

Yeah, I've ordered a travel adapter off of Amazon that should do the job. It seems like the actual charger they ship with it charges the phone faster than any of the third party ones, so hoping just having that plugged into the adapter will sort it.

​would you mind sharing tracking details from start to finish . thanks

​Just buy a shaver adapter from wilko etc. I have a socket with USB so use that. They are only 7 quid from Screwfix too and it's so much easier than using an adapter. Or just buy a new charger

Thanks, just checked and mine says it has also left Hong Kong today.

I received mine yesterday. Haven't had a chance to fire it up just yet. Do any of you guys know a really good adapter for the mains plug? One wasn't included with it and I need to find one that's safe to use with this phone in the UK.

EDIT: Fired this up and flashed the Indian rom to it. Very, very easy to do. I'm not massively fond of ZUI but overall it's a nice fast phone. Just need to find that adapter so I can charge it at the mains!

Asendia tracking shows mine left Hong Kong at 4.30pm today, first day of ten day holidays, phew! I bought mine later than most of you guys.

I got 2 protectors from aliexpress in white. They were perfect fit edge to edge but only had adhesive on edge and top/bottom but screen had none so it sort of hovered over screen and it was poor and had to press hard as it was not touching screen. So avoid those lol.

No I haven't got the protector yet and with chinese new year starting tomorrow shutting down everything for about a week or more likely 10 days, not holding my breath :smile:

If in a hurry, search ebay.co.uk for local suppliers and make sure it is uk seller before buying.

​You've got the protector already? If you have the one spare, hoping you don't mess up, mind if I buy it off you providing it covers the edges of the screen :smiley:

I went through specs of a few, cant remember but this seemed goodish, bought 2 as mess up putting them on, i think 2nd one 50% off:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ultra-Thin-HD-Cover-Skin-Film-Screen-Protectors-Tempered-Glass-Lenovo-ZUK-Z2-/252512282732

anyone wants other accessory stuff i mentioned, let us know, will dig up links. :smiley:

​Link pls :smiley:

I ordered a protector that seemed quality on ebay. Anyone wants the link? Can dig it up. I haven't got the protector yet though as specified above, nor the phone. I find without protectors I scratch screens in no time.

I also ordered a flip-cover case as I break screens without flips & need a mini stand anyway by using the flip half of case. Also ordered 3 little C type USB gadgets for a dollar or so each, each different purposes.

Tracking, Ascendia HK and international and UK links for tracking, mine is not showing there yet:

http://www.asendia.hk
http://www.asendia.com
http://www.asendia.co.uk

To anyone who got theirs, can anyone recommend a good screen protector?

​​​It's DHL. Which, now that I come to think of it, I'm sure it said it was going to be Parcelforce. Hmm. I just received a text stating that I had customs fees to pay.

Damn that's unfortunate, most of the time Banggood slip through customs and declare as gift

What company is delivering yours? Royal Mail? Parcelforce? I take it you had a slip saying you had to pay before they would release the item?

​I didn't see a handling fee so I'd imagine I'll get smacked with that later.

Plus handling fee.

Mine is apparently due today, although I got to the customs charges a bit late so I reckon it'll be delayed an extra day. The charge was £3.95.

I am still waiting for the tracking to update off of the initial info...

Ordered on 8th, wasn't dispatched till 5 days ago though. I find the delivery itself is quick but the dispatch time is woeful.

Looks like the most have been shipped from HK today, should be with us by the end of the week I hope

what date did you order mate ?

Got mine today, no customs paid. It'll come marked as a gift, an MP4 Player

Had a (pretty poorly) applied matte protector on it

Was running an Indian official ROM but ZUI is sh*t, changed it to mokee and everything is very good

Built so well and there is no rattling, creaking or anything like that. Buttons are nice and clicky. Tactile feedback is great. Screen can get very bright and I had no issues reading in bright sunlight.

10/10 would Banggood again

2017-01-24 16:54:00

Location：Asendia Hong Kong

Status：The consignment has left the origin border point



2017-01-24 16:54:00

Location：Asendia Hong Kong

Status：Arrival at origin border point



2017-01-24 16:54:00

Location：Asendia Hong Kong

Status：Mailed

I got the same on my tracking but what do u think guys about tax duty ?

Order Date Jan 11 2017

Origin Country - Tracking Consuming: 1214 ms
2017-01-24 16:54 Asendia Hong Kong, The consignment has left the origin border point
2017-01-24 16:54 Asendia Hong Kong, Arrival at origin border point
2017-01-24 16:54 Asendia Hong Kong, Mailed

Got the same on my tracking

Ordered a bit after you.

2017-01-23 Asendia Hong Kong, The consignment has left the origin border point
2017-01-23 Asendia Hong Kong, Arrival at origin border point
2017-01-23 Asendia Hong Kong, Mailed

tracking is still stuck

2017-01-13 18:43:46
Location: Flyt Express's sorting center, Hong Kong
Status: Item in transit

ordered on the 10th
anyone else gone past this stage ???

Lets hope so mate. It's now 12 days after deal was posted and first buyers, we'll know late next week. Fingers crossed.

Your items and mine HAVE been handed over by BangGood. It is right there in the tracking, the oldest thing on 14th January is when the shipping number was generated, nothing was handed over at that stage, then on 20th January it updated to "item received" by the courier, meaning it was handed over by the seller. The current status is 20th January at the Hong Kong sorting centre. Chances are high it will ship out from Hong Kong within a few days. My last order took 5 days (3 working days) to go from arriving in Hong Kong to being in Europe, and an extra day to be en route to my local Royal Mail depot with 1 more day for delivery. On this basis I would expect it to be shipped from Hong Kong either Monday or Tuesday, but we might not be updated until it gets to Europe at the end of the week. No guarantee obviously, but highly likely I think based on my past orders.

If you want to know what an order looks like when it never gets handed over by the sender, here is one I placed before Christmas, this is all the tracking on the item and is the red detail so it never left the supplier at all, the courier never collected it:

2016-12-18 19:57:40
Location：Customer
Status：Customer's order information generated

Good chance I might not get mine in time and be away and might be sent back to china, oh well nvm.

This sounds bad, didn't know that they can do that with tracking codes

They told me they will not get phones before new year and all are on back-order. As soon as I said I want refund due to possible travel in Feb (genuinely), she generated a tracking code and shipped status. Once the code is generated and tracking code issued by banggood and status changed to "shipped", the refund button disappears from the site and android app which is how she stopped me getting refund. She did it very fast, too fast.

aftership is more reliable than flytexpress, but it says pending and no code recieved by chinapost yet:

https://track.aftership.com/

I did not say they make up tracking codes. I said tracking code does not ALWAYS mean an actual item was handed over by the seller. Large scale sellers can issue tracking codes with some dispatch services digitally for items before actually handing anything over. This is a well known fact by many including more experienced buyers here on HUKD.

10 days ago or more, was not near new year. I suspect as they told me in an email, they will not get this phone before Jan 27th which is chinese New year holiday start-date and impossible for delivery in the communist state with nationalised post system. Hence after 2nd of Feb which means after weekend, 6th of Feb is the earliest and even then all hell is broken lose because nothing gets done till a couple of days after due to backlogs etc.

That is how china new year is. She said they do not have this in stock before their new year, I still believe her. So lets not go round making up fake quotes. Tracking codes are sometimes generated before items are handed over. This is a fact. Once the item is picked up, the digi label and pre-generated tracking code will be valid. It is not fake but nothing could have been handed over. Otherwise 11 days ago was not Rooster year chaos period yet. The containers are not shipping containers but small plane sized ones. This case could be either, merely codes were generated or phones were handed over, I believe the former because of their email but could be latter too.

Banggood sells lots to Europe and much through Swisspost as our codes are. It would take much less than 12 days to fill one. As banggood told me, they do not have this batch of phones yet at this price but on Back-order, probably after a fortnight from now after their hols.

I got an email from banggood on the 20th saying it was shipped, but when I click the track button in my account, the track17 website says item not found. Don't know what to make of that...

All the red means it's stuck in a air freight container in HK. Basically what happens is all packages are stored in containers until full then shipped out on a flight. With the Chinese new year there's a backlog.

Hopefully ship out before NY but most likely after NY.

You can can't make up tracking data, well I hope you can't. So the parcels have been dispatched but are stuck in a shinny container somewhere in HK, the tracking data shows this.

​yes mine is same as yours ... in red

You should put the latest Indian Rom on your phone. It works great.

If listing your tracker, you have to say which part is RED, ie: current location. As you see mine is at stage 1 still like others (is yours too?).

Despite me ordering later than most of you guys, see my first line is a week later on 20th Jan than y-shah's 13th Jan and yet we all seem to be stuck on line 1 and why I wrote the previous post. I don't think they have yet received this batch for this sale and they will get it after new year, probably 6th to 10th of Feb and then will take another 2 weeks of actual transit to arrive, near the end of Feb. If anyone gets their stage 2 or later RED, let us know here.

​thats my status


2017-01-13 18:43:46

Location: Flyt Express's sorting center, Hong Kong

Status: Item in transit

2017-01-13 12:43:01

Location: Flyt Express's sorting center, Guangzhou

Status: Item dispatched. PKG #: ********"*

2017-01-13 11:27:52

Location: Flyt Express's sorting center, Guangzhou

Status: Item in transit

2017-01-13 10:27:52

Location: Flyt Express's sorting center, Guangzhou

Status: Item received

2017-01-11 00:35:26

Location: Customer

Status: Customer's order information generated

I got my tracking number from banggood android app jumping to track17 site. I also got the first line in flytexpress website too, first said item in Guangzhou yesterday then today same 1st line said item in HongKong.

I had asked them when it iwill be dispatched. She said new stock on 27th, which is nonsense as it is holiday there and basicallty says no stock till Feb. I said if it takes too long to refund me with Chinese New Year from 27th to Feb 2nd or 3rd. She suddenly said we got stock an item was shipped in status.

The first line in many tracking sites does not ALWAYS mean item was handed over. It can mean the sender just issued a tracking number and gave it to couriers. I suspect none of these stuck on first line within flytexpress are handed over by banggood to chinapost then to be posted for Swisspost.

I suspect they are gathering a lrge enough batch to either order from Lenovo wholesaler middleman at a cheap rate or there are delays in stocks. If anyone's status progresses to 2nd line let us know and when you bought and we can see if later buyers like me got the same stage.

Stcok might actually materialse and might actually be handed over to Chinapost before Jan 27th, even then chinapost shuts down for a week for new Rooster year. But I suspect No actual phone will be given to post until the end of first week of Feb. If you google flytexpress first line and half of tracking and by banggood, you see first line date is usually a day or two before day two. So people who are stuck pon first line for over a week means PROBABLY no phone has been handed over and merely registered numbers for post have been generated by bnggood and sent to chinapost. Sone in feedbacks got it in ten days to UK/Europe and some had to wait a month. With apparently stock problems as they told me for this phone and chinese new year which is not just aweek but huge backlogs to sort too, I do not expect rapid progress and flight out of china in tracking any time soon.

Contact them, easy from android app, and ask what the hell is going on and we all share info here.

Ordered one to try out, thanks!

May I redirect you to my personal review of the software that comes with the phone.

Phone comes neither rooted, nor with an unlocked bootloader, though both are pretty easy to do.

For the price these are great phones - suggest you flash the indian rom asap. Its a faster phone than most apart from the top end. Flashed the indian rom 2.0.093 and it OTA updated to 2.0.133. Nougat update for indian rom coming soon.

Hi does anyone know if Banggood ship the phones with the bootloader unlocked and rooted?

No the rom it came with.

​are you using Indian rom ??

are you using Indian rom ??

For the price these are decent phones I've got one and I can see a noticeable difference on small things like camera pictures and general response times in flicking between apps, it's not as good as others in its league.i also found the WiFi to be a little temperamental at times and hotshot never really worked too well so I gave up. Other then that it was decent mid range phone.
I like lenovo as I company as I have a few devices from them at home. But I got expect that their lower costing devices are limited but do last a long time.

Hopefully, if not it will be caught in the new year backlog and wont ship out until next month

Mines in transit in Hongkong since 13th. Hopefully there is a weekly flight to the UK (Maybe Friday?) :smirk:

found this on the forum:

It means the package has been scanned and is now ready to be shipped. If you used the free airmail option it can take up to a month before it arrives. Basically what happens is, all packages are stored in containers until the next air delivery is coming up. They don't fly around on a daily basis, unless of course you pay a premium.

prob stuck in HK or in transit, but I bet stuck in HK with the Chinese new year and all, I hear there are back logs of post due to it

​lol .. mine is same mate ... dont have a clue what does this mean.

mines says the below on flytexpress, does this mean it has left hk or still stuck in HK on the 12th?

2017-01-12 18:17:13

Location：Flyt Express's sorting centre, Hong Kong

Status：Item in transit

​thanks .. it works

tracking still not working.. frustration now started lol

Thanks for the info. I need nova too and if ending up with ZUI nougat, will have to use nova anyway. I might end up with resurrection too though. I'll skip xposed this time. For a couple of days I'll just use the phone as is and arrives to make sure it's not faulty and get a gauge for later. First of all I'll have to get it as it's on "back-order" status. Not looking forward to downsize from 5.5" to 5" screen, though should be more handy. Thanks again.

Thanks for your contribution! Really recommend everyone interested in this phone to browse zukfans and xda (the forum is called ZUK Z2 Pro, but it's for both Z2 and Z2 Pro).

As for the ROMs, ZUI is decent albeit a bit young, hopefully with Nougat they'll make it more homogenous. I found it a bit mixy-matchy. They took parts from various ROMs but haven't found a coherent theme to tie them all together, that's not that terrible a thing but I think there's better offerings. Though I will flash official Nougat ROM once that comes out, to check it out.

I've heard good things about the moKee and it's nice that it's fully open source, but I haven't tried it myself so I'll refrain from commenting. From what I've seen it looks like there's a lot of active development so I might have a go soon.

I'm a bit biased here, but for me, Resurrection Remix is where it's at. Been running it on the Nexus for about 6 months. Basically cyanogenmod with a ****-ton of in-built customization options and also really stable. Pair that with the Nova Launcher and pretty much everything in my phone is customizable - and I take full advantage of that.

From Zukfans, I found this website will provide more info for your tracking, just give a try.
http://www.flytexpress.com/Tracking/PackageTracking_En.aspx?

Mine still says awaiting shipment and on the app says "Pre-Order". Anyone who bought during the weekend got a shipped status yet?

Thanks very much for taking time to write the useful guide and links. Many of us are used to flashing bootloaders, TWRPs and custom ROMs, specially buyers of this phone. But even after spending hours, some would not have overcome all the pitfalls you mentioned. So it is a very appreciated post. Thanks again.

My phone is still awaiting shipment. Here are some links I came across, the Lineage ROM by harsha.pic but seems to have some snags:
http://zukfans.eu/community/threads/lineage-os-14-1-android-7-1-1.1976/

Best custom ROM discussion:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/best-rom-zuk-z2-t3525802
http://zukfans.eu/community/threads/which-is-the-best-rom.2031/

ZUK Z2 subforum on xda:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/lenovo-zuk-z2

Mokee nightlies:
https://download.mokeedev.com/?device=z2
http://zukfans.eu/community/threads/official-mokee-roms.1005/

Official ROMs:
http://zukfans.eu/community/forums/official-z2plus-zui-rom-releases.14/
Custom ROMs:
http://zukfans.eu/community/forums/custom-z2plus-rom-releases.16/
Misc:
http://zukfans.eu/community/forums/zuk-z2.5/

BTW for those who just bought the phone in this thread like me, this is not the PRO version, but it is called either just ZUK Z2 or ZUK Z2-PLUS.

I am torn between the Resurrection ROM, mokee which seems stable and the shortly upcoming official Indian Nougat ROM but will keep an eye on the Lineage after Indian Nougat (OTA?) update.

Thanks again to fs39 and also to OP y-shahs, Ulti and other sueful posters here.

hopefully the packages are on a boat or plane out of HK by now. I hope they don't get caught by the Chinese new year.

Apparently things start to wind down from now.

mine not working as well​

has anyones tracking started working yet, mines still:

Item is not found at this moment, If necessary, please verify with the package sender and check back later.

I see your sense of humour bypass operation was a complete success.

thank you for this. i am very familiar with rooting phones and xda but it will still save me a lot of time

I loaded a custom ROM in my phone just last week and here's the steps and the pitfalls you need to avoid:

This is the guide I used: http://zukfans.eu/community/threads/zuk-z2-bootloader-unlock.62/

So grab your phone S/N, install ADB and Fastboot on your PC, and install the Google and ZUK drivers.

Things to note:
If you're on Windows 8/10, you might have issues with driver signing enforcement. Bizzarely the drivers from Lenovo for the ZUK are unsigned and Windows does not like that. So you might need to disable this function. Thankfully, it's rather painless. http://www.howtogeek.com/167723/how-to-disable-driver-signature-verification-on-64-bit-windows-8.1-so-that-you-can-install-unsigned-drivers/

Now to unlock the bootloader. You'll need to go to http://developer.zuk.com/bootloader but first you'll need to register to the site. I'm assuming that you're not in China or have a chinese SIM lying around so you'll need to register using email, which can be done here: https://passport.zuk.com/wauthen3/wauth/jsp/register.jsp?lenovoid.action=uilogin&lenovoid.realm=www.zuk.com&lenovoid.ctx=JTJGc3RvcmUlMkZ6Y29kZSUyRmluZGV4LmpodG1sJTNGbnVsbA&lenovoid.lang=null&lenovoid.uinfo=null&lenovoid.cb=http://www.zuk.com/login/logincallback.jhtml&lenovoid.vb=null&lenovoid.display=null&lenovoid.idp=null&lenovoid.source=browser:m.zuk.com?lenovoid.action=uilogin&lenovoid.realm=www.zuk.com&lenovoid.ctx=JTJGc3RvcmUlMkZ6Y29kZSUyRmluZGV4LmpodG1sJTNGbnVsbA&lenovoid.lang=null&lenovoid.uinfo=null&lenovoid.cb=http://www.zuk.com/login/logincallback.jhtml&lenovoid.vp=&lenovoid.display=null&lenovoid_idp=null&lenovoid.source=browser:m.zuk.com&lenovoid.thirdname=null&lenovoid.qrstate=null

Once you register, fill in the bootloader unlock form and you'll get an email with some Chinese writing, this is unimportant. Look at the attachment to that email and you'll find a unlock_bootloader.img file. Download it and you're in business.

Now I ran into trouble sending fastboot commands to my phone, just wouldn't be detected for some reason, no clue why. But I found this tool by mauronofrio: https://forum.xda-developers.com/zuk-z2-pro/development/tool-tool-one-driversunlocktwrpfactory-t3432782 - works like a charm, you can use it to unlock the bootloader and then install TWRP on your phone.

Once you have TWRP then you can install whatever ROM that tickles your fancy, no problem. Personally I'm running Resurrection Remix by fedor917 https://forum.xda-developers.com/zuk-z2-pro/development/6-0-1-unofficial-resurrection-remix-t3504145 I tried CM14.1 but it's not stable enough for me and I much prefer RR. Plus it's Marshmallow so xposed works fine on it and plenty other stuff that hasn't reached Nougat yet. I really want Nougat-based Resurrection Remix on this phone and I've been working at porting it, but it's the first time I do this so it's quite a steep learning curve.

It was expired when the code became invalid, a new code is available now but the deal hasn't been un-expired.

I ordered one this morning with the new code.

This deal is still valid, why is it marked as expired?

64GB of Read Only Memory sounds very unuseful.

What are they storing on it if it's read only?

I got this phone from banggood (same link as above) and it arrived last week (about 2.5 weeks delivery time) with no customs charges to pay.

I got it in white and I was a bit concerned before it got here that I'd hate the black line around the screen but honestly it's so thin that it doesn't bother me in the slightest. Check out the white mi5 to see monstruous black bezel around the screen.

It came sealed in the box (though likely sealed by the banggood people because all the videos I've seen online the box didn't have the specific seal that was on my box) with the indian 2.0.093 ST firmware with the Play Store sideloaded and also multiple languages.
This was definitely not factory firmware and the OTA Updater was broken, though I did root it and look around through it and couldn't find anything that looked or behaved like malware/spyware/adware.
Bloatware was minimum and the software was snappy and stable, pretty stock looking at first glance, but quick settings, notifications, and menus were unpleasantly apple-like. I love the home button gestures, took about half a day to get used to them but they're now second nature.
All in all, one could use the software as a daily driver with no issues whatsoever, pretty well put together actually. Google Play and everything else worked perfectly.

But I personally didn't, I unlocked the bootloader (painless, thank you ZUK) and flashed the Resurrection Remix ROM available on XDA + root + Magisk + xposed + Nova Launcher, I'm too accustomed to this particular setup and I love the level of access I have over my phone now.

It takes everything I throw at it without even flinching. I got a ~130k Antutu score, not shabby at all for a ~£140 phone.
Another thing I like is how sturdy it feels. It's heavy but in a good way and it's great for one hand usability.

Just ordered this for wifey. Phone plus screen protector plus pink sparkly flip case for £140. Plus 6.9% topcashback to be factored in. Thanks!

can some one please un expire as we have a new code which makes the price for white one even better £135.11 . Code : reyesz64 - thanks to lastwish

this code is working: reyesz64 (need to be log in to use it)
Taking it to £142 (black color) before topcashback

You can get type c to USB micro adaptors etc for quid or less on eBay, just brought one so I can use my old chargers with the zuk. Got it for 30p on eBay

As someone has mentioned if you flash the Indian ROM and then get OTA updates you will get the latest android Nougat which should be here this month!

​how is the speaker volume for video calls ??

Why not just get over it.
I have chargers all over the house, cars etc, now have fun replacing them. Might not be an issue for some, might be for others.

The screen issue (average brightness/colors) appears in lots of reviews, that naver happened with other phonea (xiaomi?)

mate this is pure complaining :smiley: It's funny you can't see that :smile:
"the screen is average (colors and brightness) so not too sure why the LTPS is a feature
The USB type C means all your cables in the house cannot be used anymore?"

Not complaining, just trying to get the facts right. Not sure why would this be an issue for you

Can't track it at the moment, but it says Swiss Post, is everybody the same?

same here

Ordered the white one Wednesday, email this morning to say it had been dispatched

​cheers. i wanted white one as i saw in reviews, black is finger print magnet.

has any one ordered a white one and is it dispatched yet ? i ordered on 10th since then its says " back order"

code does not work anymore, deal should be expired now.

I bought this,
* Pros
- amazing speed.
- 64gb I download many apps no problem.
- Fingerprint fast.
* cons
- I use lycamobile; I got no 4g network
- It took 40 days to be delivered.

I want to sell my, Zuk Z2, White

Does this get the monthly security updates and/or is it compatible with Stock roms?

Who listens to radio these days? It is basically for peasants

****, was going to wait till today to buy it, code no longer working :disappointed:

can anyone confirm if the radio picks up fm in the uk under the indian or Chinese rom?

mate you have a link for how to install the indian rom and a link for the rom please?

How do you think the camera on this compares to my Vodafone Smart Ultra 6?

code not working

How long does the delivery from HK?

mate...this is info from Lenovo directly. The LTPS is pretty much the most expensive lcd screen, correct me if I'm wrong :smiley:
Type C is the future if you want to stay on USB 2.0 and Microusb cable...your choice

It's a £130 quid phone and you are complaining...
people nowadays :disappointed:

I bought it in November from ebay.co.uk, location of the item was set in UK (so no import charges) phone was shipped from Germany. Paid £184 and had free return as phone wasn't as described (no Google Play and Services working properly, no U Health app, etc).

I did really like the phone, it has great spec, screen is good, camera is OK..overall feel of the phone was very good. I did use previously Sony Z3 Compact. The U-Touch is great feature when you get used to after few hours of using phone. Now tempt to give a shot at this deal and flash the ROM, but if Nougat is coming out for this and Z2 Pro and ZUK Edge may wait few weeks and hopefully it will have English language out of the box.

Hi, I had this phone back in November with Chinese Rom and English language, came without Play store/services which was nightmare to install. As working for few minutest then not..etc so sent the phone back.

If you install Indian ROM (shame is not Indian version of Z2 Plus with larger battery) does give full English layout?
- translate all options, features, camera, keypad ?
- is U-health working?
- what version ZUI you get?

Or is a partial translations only to keep you "going"

Thanks

for those who wonder:
it supports:
QuickCharge 3.0
USB 3.0 (type-C)
FM Radio (Depends on Country I think)
Gorilla Glass 4
LTPS LCD Screen

:smiley:

​Hmm not sure that's a plus point. India is the corporation worlds testing ground. Loads of population & no comebacks. Ask Monsanto & all the big pharma.

Code no longer working. 500 uses only. Shame was going to buy one.

worked for me :smiley: thank you.

Not sure this actually has QC 3, think I read somewhere it is capable of it but it isn't enabled.

Beware the back of the phone is also glass type material so slip slides all over the place.

Think I am going to pay the extra £8 for black , white looks a bit plastic in the youtube videos I have been watching

What is an Indian ROM?

Looks like lineage OS the spiritual successor to cyanogenmod is going to be available too:
http://zukfans.eu/community/threads/lineage-os-14-1-android-7-1-1.1976/

would this work with three network?

Good new zui 2.5 look like it will be released next week (probs China ROM to start with)

Can totally recommend this phone, loving mine so far with the Indian rom on it have had no issues at all.

You don't need updates if it works though.

Got mine from Banggood just before Christmas and it worked out of the box and had Google play on so all my apps worked. There is a lot of info online on how to flash the phone but as I have had no problems I haven't planned to.Its fast and a bargain at this price.

But does it cover all 4G ranges?

After 2 years you will likely have moved on to another phone and given the old one to the kids or granny.

Is Banggood a reputable site? Anyone had any negative experiences with them?

If you like big screen phones
The best phone Now is Samsung Note 4 you can get up to £300 for new / nearly new or used less 200
This my opinion Why get cheap chines phones with no updates etc
Get 2 Years old phone with all best hardware at this time It is still going strong and will be for another couple years
Got everything what other phones now do not have

I have dropped accidentally from 2 Meter high on tiles and I have marks on frame the screen is top quality very hard to break compare to new phones likes S7 or S6 or note 5 Anyway you can buy frame for £10 and double side tape and replace the frame and will be like new again

Now do same thing with new glass phones you drop game over shattered Battery can not replace the screen curved and so easy to crack

I hate the apple type nano-sims.
How do you get your SIM in anogher phone that uses micro-SIM? Why did apple invent this 3rd SIM type...

Sorry, do you mean send it back to China?
How much would that cost ?
And how long it will take?
I thought you pretty much cannot return anytbing to China (realistically)

Better or worse than the Xiaomi Redmi 3S prime?

The specs on this look fantastic but there's a lot of love on this site for the Xiaomi. Which is better?

​thanks
so the best thing would be to flash indian rom straightaway to avoid any problems

Anyone have an opinion on the doogee T6 pro? Its ticking all the boxes for me, and is on eBay at 120 or less from a UK seller

I purchased this before Christmas, been using it for a couple of weeks now and I have no complaints. the Indian stock rom is very snappy and I've hardly encountered any bugs. love the 5" screen (I had a OP2 before and as much as I loved it that 5.5" screen is huge!) for me the only phone better than this is the iPhone 6s, but at less than £150 for phone and screen protector and case you can't go wrong!

This looks like a very good deal!

I cant recommended this exact product but for over a year my phone has been the lenovo phab-plus and its 100% reliable and by far the best phone ive ever used!!

Doesn't state that it is the Pro version, but either way, Pro or not, support over at XDA appears to be minimal at best with a very limited number of custom roms available for the device. Still, at this price, it's quite a decent spec'd phone for the money.

What kind of trojan? I don't really mind trojans. Every app you install is a trojan. The whole operating system is a trojan.

do you pay vat?

Didn't flash anything. Using original ROM. All google services working. Play store no problem.

not compatible with giffgaff 4G.

Haha

It's not excuses m8 some people have needs, I would be all over this if it had 27Mhz CB

Got a Doogee Y6 Piano Black the other day - seemed great to start with, then after a couple of days I'd had to reboot many times and the screen became really unresponsive. Going to send it back now. Shame as it looks lovely.

Took me about 20 minutes from start to finish to flash the official indian rom (Play store as standard)

not has any issues since. There were some instructions posted on one of the other threads, will dig them out tonight

this would be great but from what I believe you have to flash a rom to get google play store to work & it cant just be used out the box

Making the transition from my last Android, Motorola, was a nightmare. This phone comes with its own App Centre and did not allow Play Store to download apps, the message was "pending download". I could not transfer my Google contacts or calendar. With the help of a geeky friend the phone was wiped clean - the term is flashing, not to be confused with pervert activity - and reloaded. Not for the faint hearted. It was an absolute nightmare.

Buyer beware.

Cheers. Think I'll stick with my 2 year old Motorola for a little while longer then. I must be a UK market phone man too.

Doubt it, you'd probably just find another reason not to buy it - somebody posts a similar excuse in every tech thread.

64gb is plenty, though personally I won't buy these iffy phones designed for other markets.

that's why you buy a case mate :smiley:

Thanks

Samsung Note 4 with 50k antutu? This will hardly be enough for tetris nowadays...

Ordered thanks

Got this for my daughter and really flies. Fits and SD card in the second SIM slot and has band 20. Probably find it cheaper elsewhere as this is stock from Spain and has VAT included.
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/International-Version-Xiaomi-Redmi-3S-3GB-32GB-Smartphone---Dark-Gray-372278.html

Unfortunately, shipping costs from Spain is not included!!

Amazingly, Debenhams is selling the 2Gb/16Gb international version
https://www.debenhamsplus.com/mc/phones-and-pdas/pt/smartphones/brd/xiaomi

went for the black one for 8 quid more

The black one is more suitable for me with different price. Thanks.

​i think this is a ZUK wholly owned subsidiary of lenovo.....

How do Lenovo phones differ from Motorola?

​yes if your package is picked by customs.... however opting for slow post mostly escapes it

Do i need pay import duties or taxes for it?

​this is much more cheaper not fair comparison I think

Are these any use
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/umi-z-5-5-inch-dual-3d-edge-4gb-ram-32gb-rom-mediatek-helio-x27-deca-core-2-6ghz-2592863

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/doogee-y6-piano-black-5-5-inch-fingerprint-4gb-ram-64gb-rom-mtk6750-octa-core-4g-2588056

I can't find anything that has micro SD, band 20 and everything this phone has!

This is a nice phone for the money. My opinion after comparing it to a Xiaomi mi5:

Worse camera than a mi5 (but better than a Redmi note 3)
slightly faster than a mi5 when opening apps
even though the battery is 500mah bigger I found battery life to be almost identical.
Screen is on the warm side and not quite as nice as the mi5. Perfectly fine though
zui is a lighter skin than miui, it multi tasks better, it has fewer options and unlike miui I didn't find any bugs. I tried the international, indian and Chinese rom. I found the indian rom to be the best, there's no Chinese language or bloatware and it gets more regular ota updates than the international.
I thought I wouldn't like the unusual single button layout but it works really nicely and it's quick to get used to. Apple could definitely learn from this.

My only real problem with it is finger sensitivity, even running nova launcher on the most relaxed setting the screen flicks and scrolls away very quickly, if you are used to apple style finger sensitivity you are in for a shock. You could probably get used to it but the mi5 was way better for me in this regard. This and the camera/screen swung it for me and I chose the mi5.

haha not confident enough unfortunately

would have been all over this if it came with microsd slot

Have got this at 157 and installed Indian ROM. Works perfectly from my experience

I'm not sure unless you just message them to ask?
I would've thought it would have the new software on it as they are selling newer phones than what I originally bought but don't hold me to it!
You can always install the Indian ROM if you're confident enough anyway right?

i'd prpbably brick it tbh :disappointed:

so it came with the playstore & play services fully functional?
is there a way to tell which rom it'll ship with

​Head over to the Zuk Fans forum for info and clear tutorials for flashing roms. I flashed my Z2 at the weekend and couldn't be happier with this phone.

The one I bought in December has a newer ROM version which installs apps without any problems!

this is where most of the discussion related to the phone happens:

http://zukfans.eu/community/forums/zuk-z2.5/

Actually this version has more dev support than the z2 pro. already has cm14.1 which is almost working

White only at this price, black is £144 with code, but good value. Its a china only phone , and no updates.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/lenovo-zuk-z2-review

Actually, both the indian and chinese official roms support OTA. I know cos, upon installing the indian rom, it pushed an update to my phone.

Will get it over now no band 20, so will not always get 4g on o2 or Vodafone or any mvno's that use these networks

Fair enough

This is *not* the pro version....

Assuming this is the 'Pro' version it has an xda forum: https://forum.xda-developers.com/zuk-z2-pro

(and therefore plenty of dev interest, incl custom roms)

Here's my post on this phone last time with some information about the phone in there:

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/lenovo-zuk-z2-5-0-fullhd-1080p-snapdragon-820-4gb-ram-64gb-storage-4g-lte-white-2503278

Gave it to my sister straight away however when it arrived and didn't really play with it so unfortunately I didn't really get back to the thread to post a review. I can say say that it was pretty nippy and was almost as fast as my OnePlus 3 when I ran some app tests side by side with her.

Here's my post on this phone last time with some information about the phone in there:

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/lenovo-zuk-z2-5-0-fullhd-1080p-snapdragon-820-4gb-ram-64gb-storage-4g-lte-white-2503278

Gave it to my sister straight away however when it arrived and didn't really play with it so unfortunately I didn't really get back to the thread to post a review. I can say say that it was pretty nippy and was almost as fast as my OnePlus 3 when I ran some app tests side by side with her.

White only at this price, black is £144 with code, but good value. Its a china only phone , and no updates.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/lenovo-zuk-z2-review