100% agree with the depends who posts what comment. Certain people could post pasta reduced by 2p in one tesco and gain 800 degrees in an hour :smirk:

Massive heat from me though, a current bargain if you're after one.

Just wondered if you've noticed 'high end' 1080ti is about to drop.... alomost twice perfomrnace of 1070, 1/3 faster 1080.... mid range.

And also, prices have dropped for both 1080 and 1070 officially. Got an Asus 1070 for £300 after I sold Ghost recon/For Honor key.

Might be worth listening now and again. Have a good day :smiley:

Cheers for the advice!! I'll try and stay safe out there. So many untrustworthy people out there... have you thought about maybe writing a book or a tech blog? Your indepth knowledge is really useful - I'm sure others could benefit from it.

You are being hoodwinked by this dude.

The 1080 is a "Mid Range Graphics Card"??!?! So, by that, the 480/1060 is extreme low entry budget that is overpriced?

Lol - you're funny man! We're talking about the 1080, 1070 and 1060 being overpriced right? It doesn't matter if a graphics card is £1000 or £10 - if it's over priced, it's over priced!

If it's over priced due to a monopoly having no competition and it has been purposely priced to take advantage of that, then that is called 'price gouging'!! Currenty AMD can't price gouge. Not saying they wouldn't if they we're in Nvidias position but presently they can't actually do it. Simples.

AdoredTV describes himself as AMD fanatic. That doesn't change what happened over time between Nvidia and AMD and the consumers that fell for the great marketing that Nvidia implemented.

In one of his latest videos he rips AMD Vega tech apart. He works as a consultant to Fund managers and investment companies so I'll think I'll listen to what he has to say rather than yourself, but you go for it dude!

Also, give Nvidia some more of your money and make sure you ask for less - they need you!!

Lul <3

As AdoredTV says "1080 is a mid range graphics card at top range price."... roll on Vega and 1080ti and hope the prices correct.

Lol - you still haven't watched the video have you...

​i have an almost identical set up but am lucky enough to be able to push my 2500k to 4.9ghz without issue. no bottlenecks at 1440p.

One note on the upgrade path, a 3570k is probably the way to go if maintaining 1155 socket. you can pick them up on flea bay for £70 and they offer a pretty sound 10% upgrade and oc well too.

Yet again, you resort to name calling. What's the point? You call it "Facts" when it's an opinion.

Lol - so you didn't watch the video then - by probably the most informed person on youtube. Maybe try that first then come back.

It's not about whether there were £500 graphics cards - it's not the point you luddite. If you can't read just watch the video - it explains it all or is that too hard - getting the facts.

And if you think Nvidia aren't price gouging the market then carry on and support them. I mean how can they justify the incredibly overflated prices without people like you...

I'M NOT SHOUTING BTW :smiley:

Resorting to name calling and pasting a youtube video? Calling someone uneducated?

Would you consider that you were wrong if I proved to you that there have been 500 quid graphics cards from both companies before this latest market share trend?

It's really easy, because Geforce's market share trend hasn't always been 90/10. And both companies have released, in the distant past, very expensive cards. And when you adjust for inflation, you'd be a bit surprised.

Or are you going to just keep slinging names and shouting?

I can put together a post that would help you understand why this isn't new, but I don't want to waste time if you are going to just stick your fingers in your ears and shout louder.

I get a solid 60fps with battlefield 1 at max settings affer increasing the core clock of my 1070 by a modest 99mhz. My 2500k is running at 4.3ghz on stock voltage and im also gaming at 3440 x 1440.
I'm guessing you just wanted an upgrade, as a swap to a 2600k and an easy 4.5ghz overclock would have provided similar performance to a stock 6700k, as long as you have decent ram.

just so you know there was a bug in bf1 that was giving a lot of people problems with the i5 CPU maxing for no reason

@ 4k CPU is largely irrelevant as you're gpu bound most games. I went from a Xeon 5650 @ 4.2 (2010 cpu) to a 6700k @ 4.7, 32gb 3000mhz ddr4 etc. and with one exception a console port (Grid which is cpu dependant) all other games were within a couple of percent points at best. GPU was an AMD Fury unlocked cores and overclocked.

For PS, LR, video editing etc. there were healthy improvements but general gaming where you're mostly gpu bound an i5 is fine.

Well it wasn't because the 1080 was mostly chilling while all cores of the processor were maxing out. It was physics that were causing the big drop in frames (i.e. tanks blowing up, destruction in the desert towns etc)

I've tried the 2500k, 6600k and 6700k (all at 4.4ghz) and came to the conclusion the i7 was the the sweet spot for my needs.

Gaming at higher resolution reduces the strain on the CPU.

That's why the test you linked was done at 1080, so it stressed the CPU and not the GPU.

BF1 is almost surely GPU bound at 4k resolution.

£2.50 delivered with prime.

£230 i think

Not available anymore. What was the price?

....And it's gone.

But that video is quite old now, and the benchmark is run at 1080p on a weaker GPU. When I saw it originally I agreed with their summary as well. I had the same logic of not needing to upgrade my 2500K.... But when BF came out though that opinion changed unfortunately, the 2500K and to a certain extent the 6600K was bottle-necking the 1080 for me.

But remember, my demands are 3440x1440 @ ~100fps. If you game at 1080p then the i5 will be fine.

I mean, I watched the video.

I think we have to understand what their tests are trying to achieve: A CPU bottleneck so you can highlight the differences.

https://youtu.be/EhaB1dqYv_I?t=164

TL:DR/DW: The video you linked says they still think the price/performance sweet spot is the i5.

But I understand wanting the best of the best for a new rig, just hard to justify someone upgrade from a previous gen card to a 7700k if they have a viable i5 or, if you must, a 2600k.

Personal experience trying to play at 3440 x 1440

I swore by my 2500K for years but it it finally started to show its age with BF1. I'd constantly go from 80fps to 45ish and all the cores would be at 98%> load

I thought upgrading to a 6600K build would sort it. My fps improved but I was still getting the framerate dips during explosions, intensives scenes etc.

So I upgraded to the 6700K and it's provided a much more stable fps. I hover between 80-100fps now

This vid (notable the witcher 3) shows why the i7 pushes ahead in CPU intensive games... the i5's framerate constantly fluctuates
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhaB1dqYv_I

A few fps between the aforementioned processors at 4K in most setups.

will the i7 3770k be ok for this?

Got any evidence that the i5 performs poorly at 4k? I can't find anything.

If you are building a new machine, sure, consider the latest versions of CPUs, but if you already have a 2500k or higher CPU, I don't see a convincing reason to upgrade to match with this card.

Again, got anything that backs this up?

Interesting.

Which cpu would be a good match for this?

​Internet points are worth more than the £ now. Sad times

couldn't of said it better myself

holy crap £526 and this is a hot deal

is this another non competition sector where they can bring small improvements year after year but charge a premium for it like a heck of a lot of industry areas nowadays

Thanks AMD :smile:

Worth noting that anyone planning on water cooling could be served very well indeed by this card, stock blower off and bam, same as most other stock 1080's.

About the quality; Inno3D are actually pretty solid these days. I would have no problem recommending them now.

nice spotting heat from me. I've been watching these for the past few weeks. I'm gonna hold out until may for the 1080ti.

100% agree with the depends who posts what comment. Certain people could post pasta reduced by 2p in one tesco and gain 800 degrees in an hour :smirk:

Massive heat from me though, a current bargain if you're after one.

Aye, decent price but I'd be tempted to wait for May and the AMD Vega / 1080ti