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HP EliteBook Folio G1 4K Touchscreen - £649.97 @ saveonlaptops

£649.97 saveonlaptops1 Jan 17

Source: HotUKDeals | Deals > Technology

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nao

1 Jan 17

HP EliteBook Folio G1
Intel Core M7-6Y75 Dual Core Processor
12.5" 4K Ultra HD Touch Screen
Microsoft Windows 10 Professional 64-bit
8GB DDR4 RAM
240GB SSD
Integrated Graphics
USB3 | Bluetooth
Includes 3 year Warranty Included
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Looks like a good deal for a 4k touchscreen but appreciate not for everyone. I have the retina Macbook and would have probably gone for this instead at this price.

happy 2017!

Top comments

Sunni

1 Jan 17 4 #7

4k on a 12.5" screen? That's overkill.

Uridium to jayd95

1 Jan 17 4 #6

It's a 12.5" screen, so designed for lightweight for portability, the Reason for the Core M is to get out as much battery life as possible form a portable notebook. So perfect CPU imo

All comments (54)

jayd95

1 Jan 17 2 #1

Looks like a great price just a shame about the core m processor :-/ but for a 4K display heat

Uridium to jayd95

1 Jan 17 4 #6

It's a 12.5" screen, so designed for lightweight for portability, the Reason for the Core M is to get out as much battery life as possible form a portable notebook. So perfect CPU imo

nao

1 Jan 17 #2

i agree - processor a bit wimpy but rest of specs better then average

JimBobJr

1 Jan 17 1 #3

Wow great specs for the price

gooeynote

1 Jan 17 #4

Is this gloss or matt screen?

K1LLER HORNET to gooeynote

1 Jan 17 #5

Gloss

Sunni

1 Jan 17 4 #7

4k on a 12.5" screen? That's overkill.

Jeezeypeeps

1 Jan 17 1 #8

Rotten battery life, great screen. Price is good although the overinflated RRP is silly). Have some heat.

Eez1

1 Jan 17 1 #9

M7 = fanless right?

callum84 to Eez1

1 Jan 17 #10

Yeah this has passive cooling.

From the reviews it uses the body as a big heatsink.

jayd95

1 Jan 17 #11

I understand the reasoning for it but other manufacturers have managed to fit a core i5/i7u processor into smaller a chassis

callum84

1 Jan 17 1 #12

Its not about the physical size of cpu, its the balance of size, power and battery life.

AcerVsHpvsIpad123

1 Jan 17 #13

What's the best ultrabook for £650 or under:

1) HP EliteBook Folio G1 for £650.00

2) Refurbished MBA 2015 13.3 for £650.00 (Ebay)

3) Lenova Yoga 710 from JL (£599.99)

4) Acer Swift 3 256 SSD I5 from Very/Amazon for £549.99 or £499.99

5) Acer Aspire 13 i3 for £460.00 from AO

Needs to be durable,portable,fast (spreadsheets/tabs etc) and last for few years with acceptable battery. Thank you

jordni to AcerVsHpvsIpad123

1 Jan 17 #18

Id recommend you number 4 on your list. With number 3 been a close second

jayd95 to AcerVsHpvsIpad123

2 Jan 17 #20

I bought the acer aspire s13 as it's got better battery life over the swift and it's thinner and lighter , the processor benchmarks pretty much the same as it's the same cpu but the i3 has turbo turned off and I don't really care about storage as an ultrabook to me is word documents, web browsing and online video

Neilscoutb to AcerVsHpvsIpad123

2 Jan 17 #23

would of put the Dell outlet 5000 in there

skinrush to AcerVsHpvsIpad123

2 Jan 17 #24

The macbook air will probably hold its value better than everything else on that list. You can install windows on it if that's your preference too.

Picard123 to AcerVsHpvsIpad123

2 Jan 17 #26

The Folio G1 is the most 'high end' out of all those. Not only is it thin/light but it's more durable in terms of build as it's MIL-STD 810G compliant. Not only did they do all sorts of drop tests when designing it but they left it in the desert to design it to be dust / heat proof etc. Superb keyboard as well. The Windows Hello camera is also a nifty feature. Two things that are silly - the 4K screen is visually stunning but it has a really negative effect on battery life (3-4 hours battery life is ridiculous for something that's intended as an ultraportable), and the fanless design makes the bottom of the laptop run pretty hot (a consideration if you want to use it on your lap).

Martyn334 to AcerVsHpvsIpad123

3 Jan 17 #36

Probably the Lenova there... seems the best all arounder/value for money

Peter9588 to AcerVsHpvsIpad123

5 Jan 17 #48

Hp envy 13.3 i5

Furyous

1 Jan 17 #14

That's superb value at the price considering the balance of ultra-portability, Apple-like build quality, fanless chassis and more than adequate Desktop performance. It's a shame about the relatively poor battery life on this 4K variant (4-5 hours), and speed-limited SATA SSD interface (which really is a bit of a design fail for this kind of machine). That's enough to put me off (along with the gloss screen), and I suspect the reason for the hefty discount to clear stock.

callum84 to Furyous

1 Jan 17 #15

Any info on the SATA interface restriction and how this affects performance would be appreciated.
I can overlook the mediocre battery life and gloss screen.

Furyous

1 Jan 17 1 #16

SATA3 is limited to 600MB/s. That's still fast. Much faster than a mechanical HDD. But SSD drives can perform at much higher read/write speeds. For example, the Samsung 960 Pro drives are rated up to 3500MB/s read speed. That's an extreme example, but with an NVMe/PCIe interface/drive, measured read/write speeds are often 2-3x greater than SATA-limited drives. The SSD drives aren't particularly any more expensive either. So the fact that HP didn't fit a PCIe interface/drive as standard is a bit poor, especially considering that their target competition (the 12" Macbook) does include PCIe based storage as standard.

callum84 to Furyous

1 Jan 17 #17

Thanks!

nublets2k to Furyous

2 Jan 17 #22

Nothing stopping you swapping the SSD for an NVMe one.

jayd95

2 Jan 17 #19

True but this thing has 4 hours battery life they weren't shooting for the stars :-/

callum84

2 Jan 17 #21

4 hours id say is acceptable.
Increase cpu power and you might get 3, even less if you need to reduce battery size to accomodate cooling.

I get what your saying though. Personally I think they should have made it a few mm thicker, better cpu and bigger battery.

Im still tempted though

Picard123

2 Jan 17 2 #25

Nice. This is a high end ultraportable. I like the thin/light form factor - but that 4K resolution kills battery life and is completely unnecessary on a 12.5" screen, and that hinge looks wobbly.

https://www.cnet.com/uk/products/hp-elitebook-folio-g1/review/

http://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/hp-elitebook-folio-g1

If this was £599 with a 1080p screen, I'd give it an easy HOT, but neither hot nor cold at this spec.

AcerVsHpvsIpad123

2 Jan 17 #27

So how come it isn't boiling hot.
Also people suggested Acer ultrabooks

Picard123

2 Jan 17 #28

It's a 4.5W ULV CPU.

Contrast that with a i7-6700HQ. That's 45W.....

AcerVsHpvsIpad123

2 Jan 17 #29

What does it mean?

Picard123

2 Jan 17 #30

Not if you need a laptop to last the working day. Or you're out and about, at a conference etc.

callum84

2 Jan 17 #31

What i meant and should have said is 4 hours is on the border of acceptable, any less and would be no use.
When I say acceptable I mean a step above insufficent and one below good.

Picard123

2 Jan 17 #32

It's still not really acceptable, unless you're planning to use mostly plugged into the mains (in which case, why buy a laptop?)

Don't forget that batteries wear with usage and battery life reduces as they only have a finite number of charging cycles. Use that laptop every day and after 2 or 3 years, that 4 hour battery life will have probably dropped to 2-3 hours. HP batteries are really expensive to replace as well, and AFAIK, these don't have an HP equivalent of Lenovo Energy Manager where you can hold the battery at 60% charge when plugged in to reduce battery wear.

It's a shame really as it's a fantastic laptop (screen, keyboard, weight, durability etc) apart from that.

callum84

2 Jan 17 #33

Acceptable for someone like me as wouldnt be using for more than an hour or 2 at a time and never far from a powerpoint.

I did say though in the post you quoted that personally id have prefered it a few mm thicker and a bigger battery.

I was tempted but starting to talk myself out it and move more towards an i5 QHD Zenbook for £100 more.

Rude Russy

2 Jan 17 #34

integrated graphics fail

Picard123 to Rude Russy

3 Jan 17 1 #38

dumb clueless comment fail

nao

3 Jan 17 #35

It's a ultrabook that's 12mm thick according to the spec sheet...

TlMSKl

3 Jan 17 #37

clearly you know nothing. Well done

Shock

3 Jan 17 1 #39

bought, thanks

churchreg

3 Jan 17 #40

Haven't checked the specs. But as far as I'm aware if it's a SATA interface for the drives you won't be able to use a NVMe/PCIe drive. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Furyous

3 Jan 17 #41

If it's removeable, it's likely to be an m.2 socket, which may or may not support both SATA and PCIe interfaces. Given that an NVMe drive was an upgrade option on these, it's possible that it's upgradeable manually.

However, it's a very thin laptop and I can't imagine that there is any space for an m.2 socket. Like the 12" Macbook, it may be that the storage is soldered or embedded on to the main board, so not upgradeable after manufacture.

ajmoir36

3 Jan 17 #42

I tried looking into this, crucial website claims they can supply a M.2 500gb ssd a 2280 model if that makes sense was £150 too. I believe the ram cannot be changed though but not 100% on that. I cancelled my order after realising that it costs a bit too buy good usb C dongles that can do usb 3, sd, and gigabit ethernet it also seems the dongles have not been refined enough. I have instead stuck with an Asus UX310UA i7-6500u, 8gb, 256ssd and 512gb spinner, 13.3" qhd+, 2xusb 2, 1x usb 3, sd card, usb c, hdmi, upgradable ram and disks. obviously it's slightly larger, slightly heavier and more money. £820

mcdebooks

4 Jan 17 #43

Would any of these ultrabooks be suitable for running Photoshop or Serif? Don't want to spend too much and quite interested in the Acer Swift 3/Yoga 710 mentioned in another post...

nao

4 Jan 17 #44

Yes. All of them would be fine and this one esp with the 4k touch screen

MaverickAstley

5 Jan 17 2 #45

Caveat - HP's been using "fake" 4K screens in their laptops for a while. As opposed to true RGB, it's an RG-BW pentile panel, which gives all the downsides of a 4K screen (battery life, more power needed to render) but without providing the detail and colour of an actual 4K screen. Link to full explanation.

ajmoir36

5 Jan 17 #46

be careful though photoshop doesn't scale correctly on high dpi small screens. you need cc photoshop some fiddling is required.

Furyous

5 Jan 17 #47

Very interesting, thanks :smirk:

loop

5 Jan 17 #49

Link?

Peter9588

6 Jan 17 #50

http://store.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/Product.aspx?sel=NTB&id=Y3V78EA&opt=ABU